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South Carolina trooper shoots unarmed man (1 Viewer)

In traffic stops I do not move until told to do so, or after permission is asked for, granted, and the grant confirmed.

Yes Officer, I do have insurance and registration. I keep the cards in my glove box. Would it be all right if I reached for them now or would you like to cuff me for officer safety and then retrieve them yourself?

 
I resisted the urge to put "WHITE cop shoots unarmed BLACK man" in the title. Maybe that's why the appropriate level of outrage hasn't arrived yet.

 
I resisted the urge to put "WHITE cop shoots unarmed BLACK man" in the title. Maybe that's why the appropriate level of outrage hasn't arrived yet.
If that was relevant (and it very well may be), then you should have mentioned it in the title.
I don't know the cop so who am I to presume anything? But if a white man "dove back into his car" (as the trooper put it) to get his license, would he have fired?

 
I resisted the urge to put "WHITE cop shoots unarmed BLACK man" in the title. Maybe that's why the appropriate level of outrage hasn't arrived yet.
If that was relevant (and it very well may be), then you should have mentioned it in the title.
I don't know the cop so who am I to presume anything? But if a white man "dove back into his car" (as the trooper put it) to get his license, would he have fired?
All things being equal, I would say there is a good chance he would not. The most significant aspect of the institutionalized racism that police all over this country have is that they perceive black men to be less trustworthy, and thus more suspicious, than the rest of the population. The police are not the only ones who do this, of course, but since they have the power to use force, it's more problematic.

 
To be fair, the cop was pulling him over for a seatbelt violation
I'm not sure if the cop officially pulled him over or just followed him into the gas station parking lot. According to the local news the man was getting out of his vehicle to go into the store which would explain why he was out of his SUV.

Also, thankfully that cop was a terrible shot since he only hit the victim once out of what? 5 or 6 shots at pretty close range. Either that or he wasn't shooting to kill.

 
Saddest part to me is the shot citizen apologizing repeatedly while the cop continues to bark orders at him as if he's done something wrong.

 
This is the equivalent to winning the lottery. I'd love to take a beating or a non life threatening shot from a cop for no reason on video. Guy was out of the hospital in a few days, prob recover in full within a month, and now will be paid millions.

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
In traffic stops I do not move until told to do so, or after permission is asked for, granted, and the grant confirmed.

Yes Officer, I do have insurance and registration. I keep the cards in my glove box. Would it be all right if I reached for them now or would you like to cuff me for officer safety and then retrieve them yourself?
The correct way to handle it on 2014 planet Earth. Now the guy figured he was doing nothing wrong by going back into the car for his registration but he crossed paths with the wrong trigger happy (who wouldn't be these days/could not be a cop) trooper.

General population, good luck.
Gotta be smart on today's planet Earth. One must be thinking constantly. Simply doing what is asked without thinking what could happen, gets ones self shot....even though he did nothing wrong.

 
Pretty much, though I might want a review of the civil service hiring process that employed this cop ion the first place. Maybe the process is good and his hiring was a fluke, or maybe the process can be improved. It could be looked at.
Glad he's in jail for sure. Guy is wayyyy too trigger happy to be carrying a badge. Agreed on perhaps a little more live-sim scenarios and psych evals to screen out these folks. There should be a compilation of these sorts of shootings that officers are forced to sit through and discuss... if there isn't already.

This is the equivalent to winning the lottery. I'd love to take a beating or a non life threatening shot from a cop for no reason on video. Guy was out of the hospital in a few days, prob recover in full within a month, and now will be paid millions.
Indeed.

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
In traffic stops I do not move until told to do so, or after permission is asked for, granted, and the grant confirmed.

Yes Officer, I do have insurance and registration. I keep the cards in my glove box. Would it be all right if I reached for them now or would you like to cuff me for officer safety and then retrieve them yourself?
The correct way to handle it on 2014 planet Earth. Now the guy figured he was doing nothing wrong by going back into the car for his registration but he crossed paths with the wrong trigger happy (who wouldn't be these days/could not be a cop) trooper.
Thinking back, once I was pulled over and got out of the car walking back to the cops with my hands in my pockets. Two officers didn't freak out or anything they just told me to stay where I was and keep my hands visible.

Sadly, even in the warzone that is Memphis, I'm much less likely to get shot up like this given I'm white. That said, it seems more often than not, the number of attacks on police here are non-white offenders (at least recently..there have been quite a few). It's got to be tough to find the balance of "giving officers the leeway to make assumptions required to do their jobs" and "not allowing racist dirty harry types enough of a leash to play judge jury and executioner at will".

Given the number of officers on the streets these days, thankfully they get it right the vast vast majority of the time. Glad to see steps being taken to decrease the number of times they get it wrong. This dude needed some serious jail time. Crazy.

 
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How. The. ####. Does. That. Happen?!?!?!
Humans have a immense capacity to self-delude and, as a consequence, to screw up with horrible results.

Apparently, the cop saw all that in real time and actually perceived an immediate-threat "him-or-me" situation. Or else he's truly evil/deranged, and got out of the cruiser with the full intent to fire at the seatbelt violator (is that what it was?).

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
In traffic stops I do not move until told to do so, or after permission is asked for, granted, and the grant confirmed.

Yes Officer, I do have insurance and registration. I keep the cards in my glove box. Would it be all right if I reached for them now or would you like to cuff me for officer safety and then retrieve them yourself?
:loco: You're joking right?

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
In traffic stops I do not move until told to do so, or after permission is asked for, granted, and the grant confirmed.

Yes Officer, I do have insurance and registration. I keep the cards in my glove box. Would it be all right if I reached for them now or would you like to cuff me for officer safety and then retrieve them yourself?
:loco: You're joking right?
Pretty sure yea.
 
I love that the cop's response to why he shot was he "dove head first" back into the car, then came back out of the car... after being told to come back out of the car.

 
Cop has no control of the situation. He should have had the "suspect" step away from his vehicle based on this approach.

 
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Cop should never be allowed to would even a nightstick after that. Honestly no amount of training is going to overcome an itchy trigger finger. He should not be on patrol nor carry a weapon again.

 
Cop should never be allowed to would even a nightstick after that. Honestly no amount of training is going to overcome an itchy trigger finger. He should not be on patrol nor carry a weapon again.
Fun fact: The cop who murdered Oscar Grant at BART station tried to have his conviction overturned so he could go back to police work.

 
Cop should never be allowed to would even a nightstick after that. Honestly no amount of training is going to overcome an itchy trigger finger. He should not be on patrol nor carry a weapon again.
:oldunsure: He was fired and arrested - I don't think future employment as a police officer is in the cards for him.

 
Cop should never be allowed to would even a nightstick after that. Honestly no amount of training is going to overcome an itchy trigger finger. He should not be on patrol nor carry a weapon again.
:oldunsure: He was fired and arrested - I don't think future employment as a police officer is in the cards for him.
I wouldn't be surprised the way some of these guys circle the wagons.
 
John Bender said:
timschochet said:
John Bender said:
timschochet said:
Maybe the car had a Clemson bumper sticker?
1.01 - Awful attempt at humor
It's late, sue me.
Just seems like such a great opportunity and couldnt think of a more appropriate situation for a patented tim zzzzzzz-zinger

I've met roof shingles funnier than you.
They tell this kind of joke at his barber shop all the time.

 
apparently the cop was a previous cop of the year winner. Makes me wonder about the rest of the police department

 
Why all the comments about him becoming a millionaire? Do you think he should not be compensated after someone hired by the city to protect and serve, committed attempted murder on him?

 
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