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Spencer Ware, possibly the new work horse (2 Viewers)

If you think Ware has won the job outright over Charles you're crazy.  At best we're talking a 50:50 split with Charles back.  Do you really think (in non-dynasty) that a 50:50 RBBC is worth starting?  And my guess is we're talking 60-75% Charles 25-40% Ware once Charles is back.  Personally I don't hold onto guys that need an injury to have real value if I can have actual value today.  (Again just talking non-dynasty/short bench leagues).
Moving the goal post? You just changed your at best from your previous post. Yes, I think it's worth holding a running back that has a chance at 10+ touches with charles back. Ware is also a beast on the goal line. He has shown what he can do with limited touches. We still haven't seen what Charles can do since his injury. I will wait until I see Charles back getting 80% of the touches while looking effective before I make any decision on what to do with Ware. 

 
Moving the goal post? You just changed your at best from your previous post. Yes, I think it's worth holding a running back that has a chance at 10+ touches with charles back. Ware is also a beast on the goal line. He has shown what he can do with limited touches. We still haven't seen what Charles can do since his injury. I will wait until I see Charles back getting 80% of the touches while looking effective before I make any decision on what to do with Ware. 
Ware has one more week as the starter (at best) against the #4 rush defense in the league.  And you're wondering if you should trade him for a potential top 10 WR?  Unless you have deep benches or you're a dynasty you'll be dropping Ware in 3-4 weeks anyway.  If this was offered to you it's a no brainer.  If this wasn't offered to you then hate to burst your bubble but someone would have to be brain-dead to accept that offer.

There's my previous post in entirety.  Please re-read since you're having trouble. :)   Goalposts have not been moved.  At best 50:50 means he won't be the starter.

 
If you think Ware has won the job outright over Charles you're crazy.  At best we're talking a 50:50 split with Charles back.  Do you really think (in non-dynasty) that a 50:50 RBBC is worth starting?  And my guess is we're talking 60-75% Charles 25-40% Ware once Charles is back.  Personally I don't hold onto guys that need an injury to have real value if I can have actual value today.  (Again just talking non-dynasty/short bench leagues).
Yes I do

 
Ware has one more week as the starter (at best) against the #4 rush defense in the league.  And you're wondering if you should trade him for a potential top 10 WR?  Unless you have deep benches or you're a dynasty you'll be dropping Ware in 3-4 weeks anyway.  If this was offered to you it's a no brainer.  If this wasn't offered to you then hate to burst your bubble but someone would have to be brain-dead to accept that offer.

There's my previous post in entirety.  Please re-read since you're having trouble. :)   Goalposts have not been moved.  At best 50:50 means he won't be the starter.
At best Charles hasn't regained his form and Ware is the starter for the rest of the year ?

 
Ware has one more week as the starter (at best) against the #4 rush defense in the league.  And you're wondering if you should trade him for a potential top 10 WR?  Unless you have deep benches or you're a dynasty you'll be dropping Ware in 3-4 weeks anyway.  If this was offered to you it's a no brainer.  If this wasn't offered to you then hate to burst your bubble but someone would have to be brain-dead to accept that offer.

There's my previous post in entirety.  Please re-read since you're having trouble. :)   Goalposts have not been moved.  At best 50:50 means he won't be the starter.
Maybe the reason people are having trouble is that you have a totally different definition of "at best" than the rest of the world?

 
Weeden, Hoyer, Campbell are the QBs Gordon made his bones with.
Well those "bones" from 2013 are looking pretty bleached out 3 yrs later, because the 2014 version was not a top-10 WR.

The NFL is a business, and "what have you done for us lately" goes a long way. Comparing Spencer Ware and Josh Gordon... who has done more for their company lately?

 
Well those "bones" from 2013 are looking pretty bleached out 3 yrs later, because the 2014 version was not a top-10 WR.

The NFL is a business, and "what have you done for us lately" goes a long way. Comparing Spencer Ware and Josh Gordon... who has done more for their company lately?
You're the one who said he used to have an NFL QB.  I simply named the QBs that he played with.

 
Never seen this before. . :yawn:

Another day, another limited practice for Charles. ESPN Chiefs reporter Adam Teicher said it's difficult to picture Charles playing against the Steelers on Sunday night unless he returns to a full practice at some point during the week. Look for Spencer Ware to carry the mail again in Week 4.

https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/781240067658428416

 
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It's been a year. Charles still can't play after sustaining an injury that usually takes 8 months to come back from. If that's not a major red flag to you, you're simply not paying attention.  

 
C West is also dinged up heading into week 4.  Could be a really good weekend for Mr Ware.  Starting him with confidence 

 
Forgive me if this has been brought up in the 41 pages but what's the current pulse on trading for the cuff? Are Ware owners trying to trade for Charles with him on the doorstep or does it make more sense to ship Ware away? KC's running game is always productive but I see a possible heachache coming.

 
Forgive me if this has been brought up in the 41 pages but what's the current pulse on trading for the cuff? Are Ware owners trying to trade for Charles with him on the doorstep or does it make more sense to ship Ware away? KC's running game is always productive but I see a possible heachache coming.
I think if you're a Ware owner looking to trade for Charles it's a tough go. Couple reasons:

1) Trade Value Data is NOT in your favor -- Just looking at CBS Trade value charts and this site's chart, Charles is being valued highly. Above the likes of say, J. Hill and E. Lacy. Meanwhile, Ware is being valued as if he's waiver wire material. 

2) Charles owners are most likely...in reality...selling at a loss. Drafted as a 2nd or 3rd rounder, my perceived value right now is more mid round understanding the uncertainty. Charles owners don't want to believe that for a second.

3) Charles owners, per this thread and the Charles thread, are delusional.

I'd love to see what people are getting for Charles. I don't see any panic.

 
If I know Charles is out...going to have to figure out how to get Ware in my lineups.

PPR over McCoy?  No.  Forte?  Even after last week that is a hard thing to do.

Standard...again McCoy and Forte at RB for me with Lacy off...Fitz flexed for now...but will likely put Ware in at flex over Fitz.

 
I'm having a hard time with flexing Ware in over Marvin Jones or Marshall....probably thinking Jones, then Ware/Marshall are 50/50.

 
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Ware was mic'd up last week.

That link is the only video I can find online but the one I saw on the nfl network is different, I think the TV version is the complete version.

If anyone manages to catch the one on TV may favorite part is when the announcer slowly starts to realize how good Ware is. After some nice runs you hear him saying "This guy is a stud!" and "Feed this guy!". 

 
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Charcandrick West (ankle) will not practice Thursday.

It is his second missed session in a row, which puts his availability for this weekend in serious doubt. Spencer Ware should dominate work against the Steelers.
Yeah, this is pretty big. If West sits Ware is a no-brainer RB1 regardless of format this week.

 
I'm going Jeremy Hill over Ware this week.  But my RB batting percentage is only around .250 this season, so maybe go the other way.

 
Interesting that most sources still have Ware ranked fairly low....PIT D is 28 for ppr RBs.  I think he's gonna have a really high floor, but still can't sit Marvin for him....am I nuts?

 
Interesting that most sources still have Ware ranked fairly low....PIT D is 28 for ppr RBs.  I think he's gonna have a really high floor, but still can't sit Marvin for him....am I nuts?
In PPR, you play Jones. But who are the RB's starting over Ware?

 
Interesting that most sources still have Ware ranked fairly low....PIT D is 28 for ppr RBs.  I think he's gonna have a really high floor, but still can't sit Marvin for him....am I nuts?
I wonder how much human interaction goes into FF rankings anymore. Seems like all algorithm based non-sense and most of the time you can throw a blanket over the top 10-15 skill players based on the randomness of TD, or no TD.

Chiefs are built to run, they have a proven commodity in Spence Ware, so there is no way I am sitting him against the Steelers.

Back in the days when Pittsburgh D was incredibly dominant, always ranked top 5 in both categories, I "sharked" myself into benching Fred Taylor… and just as planned the vaunted Steel Curtain held him to 200 yds and 4 TDs.

 
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In PPR, you play Jones. But who are the RB's starting over Ware?
Lamar and DJ.  I've crafted an amazing team over the years.  Dynasty.  If you want to know more, I'll happily brag.  You'll crap yourself.  Good league too of nothing but experienced owners.

 
If I know Charles is out...going to have to figure out how to get Ware in my lineups.

PPR over McCoy?  No.  Forte?  Even after last week that is a hard thing to do.

Standard...again McCoy and Forte at RB for me with Lacy off...Fitz flexed for now...but will likely put Ware in at flex over Fitz.
Yeah.  I'm struggling between forte and ware at flex this week. 

 
It sucks because with most backs, you go by matchup.  With Ware, you have to also wonder if they're going to only give him 10 carries.  Or if Alex Smith decides to ignore him this week and give him one target.  Their use of the running back this season has been crazy.  Tell me he's getting 15 carries and 5 targets, and he's starting over all but about three backs in the entire league.

 
It sucks because with most backs, you go by matchup. With Ware, you have to also wonder if they're going to only give him 10 carries. Or if Alex Smith decides to ignore him this week and give him one target. Their use of the running back this season has been crazy. Tell me he's getting 15 carries and 5 targets, and he's starting over all but about three backs in the entire league.
He's getting 20 touches this week.

 
Common sense would tell us that. Wish I believed it.
West is gimpy and DNP yesterday and today. PIT has given up the 4th most receptions to RBs and it's not even a matter of game script (Sproles last week). Assuming West is limited, Ware has the potential to have a a really good game Sunday night. And if it ends up being just him and Knile Davis splitting touches, he'll even have a legitimate chance to overshadow Bell in his return game. I'm going to wait for more info on West's injury but odds are I'm starting Ware everywhere this week.

 
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It's ware or Christine Michael for me and im leaning towards Michael.  Just don't know in this situation. I have bell and DJ as my other 2 rb's

 
West is gimpy and DNP yesterday and today. PIT has given up the 4th most receptions to RBs and it's not even a matter of game script (Sproles last week). Assuming West is limited, Ware has the potential to have a a really good game Sunday night. And if it ends up being just him and Knile Davis splitting touches, he'll even have a legitimate chance to overshadow Bell in his return game. I'm going to wait for more info on West's injury but odds are I'm starting Ware everywhere this week.
If West is out, Ware is in my lineup. 

If he's getting the touches, I think talent overcomes matchup here.

Ware may run 14 - 42 or something like that, but he could break a reception that lands him on 4-82-1. 

 
Ware is 120-150 total yds and 2 TDs this week. He needs to remind everyone he isn't going to the bench. 
I sure hope that you are right. I'll be forced to start him in a league where I made a bad decision to trade Carlos Hyde away.  I might also start him in my ppr league ahead of Tyrell williams--but I'm stil on the fence about it.   I do agree that Ware could be due for a very nice game--but your projections would be amazing. 

 
Ware is 120-150 total yds and 2 TDs this week. He needs to remind everyone he isn't going to the bench. 
Not that I care that much but have you noticed the total lack of respect yahoo scoring gives to ware?  They have him projected for 4.8 this week.  I know they still have charles with his pointz.  But it's just lazy and it pisses me off.  

Ware in prime time.  Get your popcorn ready

 
Rotoworlds silva likes him

Pittsburgh has been more vulnerable to backs in the passing game, serving up the PPR RB25 finish to Chris Thompson in Week 1, the PPR RB2 finish to Giovani Bernard in Week 2, and last week's PPR RB8 game to Darren Sproles. Spencer Ware leads all NFL running backs in receiving yards (185). With Jamaal Charles (knee) still not ready and Charcandrick West (ankle) hobbled, Ware will be a workhorse against the Steelers. Ware quietly set season highs in touches (21) and snap rate (68%) last week. He is an RB1 in Week 4.
 

 

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