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STAR WARS: EP 7 ***SPOILER ZONE*** - Go here if you've seen it (1 Viewer)

MOP really is wrong about everything, all the time. Impressive. Most impressive.
Opinions are not wrong, they're opinions.

I'm happy folks are happy but there is definitely room for criticism and there is plenty around the internet if you look. Solo and Leia were both welcome pick you ups but the leads are once again sort of so so. I acknowledge that the KR guy might have played it as written so then we can take aim at Abrahams.

Let's start at the top, opening credits and then we get a ship passing that is eerily the same as Star Wars and it's supposed to be but again the original was bigger and more impressive even vs the modern film, it is/was.

Let's talk about Tatooine II or whatever they called it, Jackaroo. In the first film they had Mos Eisley and crazy characters with lightsaber duels in the bar...this place was like the set was still there but all the actors had been sent home. The ice planet was like Hoth but no At At walkers or whatevr. Remember the ropes going around the Imperial Walkers in Empire? They were trying to pay homage but in the process reminding us of better films.

Just an opinion.
You're pretty alone in not liking the two new leads.
The Finn character played like Samuel Jackson in Die Hard 3.

Where were Finn's parents? His family? His ancestors? His planet? There were not many other folks that looked much like Finn. He kind of stuck out like a sore thumb but I'm glad everyone liked him. I'm surprised they didn't dress him up in a Michael Jackson leather jacket(they did give him a leather jacket) and have him moonwalk onto the Millenium Falcon.

When Finn starts bellyaching after Poe says they gotta go back to Jackaroo, felt like Will Smith in these alien movies, pick any one you want. It's like modern American but in Space. This actor is not American but he just seemed awkward.

 
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MOP really is wrong about everything, all the time. Impressive. Most impressive.
Opinions are not wrong, they're opinions.

I'm happy folks are happy but there is definitely room for criticism and there is plenty around the internet if you look. Solo and Leia were both welcome pick you ups but the leads are once again sort of so so. I acknowledge that the KR guy might have played it as written so then we can take aim at Abrahams.

Let's start at the top, opening credits and then we get a ship passing that is eerily the same as Star Wars and it's supposed to be but again the original was bigger and more impressive even vs the modern film, it is/was.

Let's talk about Tatooine II or whatever they called it, Jackaroo. In the first film they had Mos Eisley and crazy characters with lightsaber duels in the bar...this place was like the set was still there but all the actors had been sent home. The ice planet was like Hoth but no At At walkers or whatevr. Remember the ropes going around the Imperial Walkers in Empire? They were trying to pay homage but in the process reminding us of better films.

Just an opinion.
You're pretty alone in not liking the two new leads.
The Finn character played like Samuel Jackson in Die Hard 3.

Where were Finn's parents? His family? His ancestors? His planet? There were not many other folks that looked much like Finn. He kind of stuck out like a sore thumb but I'm glad everyone liked him. I'm surprised they didn't dress him up in a Michael Jackson leather jacket and have him moonwalk onto the Millenium Falcon.
So your problem with Finn is that he's black? Nice. Did you question the existence of Lando in the original trilogy?

Finn was taken from his family at a young age by the First Order and conditioned to be a soldier. They're nobodies, and he doesn't know who they are. That's all that matters about his backstory.

Your explanations of your opinions are even more wrong than your opinions.

 
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MOP really is wrong about everything, all the time. Impressive. Most impressive.
Opinions are not wrong, they're opinions. I'm happy folks are happy but there is definitely room for criticism and there is plenty around the internet if you look. Solo and Leia were both welcome pick you ups but the leads are once again sort of so so. I acknowledge that the KR guy might have played it as written so then we can take aim at Abrahams.

Let's start at the top, opening credits and then we get a ship passing that is eerily the same as Star Wars and it's supposed to be but again the original was bigger and more impressive even vs the modern film, it is/was.

Let's talk about Tatooine II or whatever they called it, Jackaroo. In the first film they had Mos Eisley and crazy characters with lightsaber duels in the bar...this place was like the set was still there but all the actors had been sent home. The ice planet was like Hoth but no At At walkers or whatevr. Remember the ropes going around the Imperial Walkers in Empire? They were trying to pay homage but in the process reminding us of better films.

Just an opinion.
You're pretty alone in not liking the two new leads.
No. No he's not.

 
MOP really is wrong about everything, all the time. Impressive. Most impressive.
Opinions are not wrong, they're opinions. I'm happy folks are happy but there is definitely room for criticism and there is plenty around the internet if you look. Solo and Leia were both welcome pick you ups but the leads are once again sort of so so. I acknowledge that the KR guy might have played it as written so then we can take aim at Abrahams.

Let's start at the top, opening credits and then we get a ship passing that is eerily the same as Star Wars and it's supposed to be but again the original was bigger and more impressive even vs the modern film, it is/was.

Let's talk about Tatooine II or whatever they called it, Jackaroo. In the first film they had Mos Eisley and crazy characters with lightsaber duels in the bar...this place was like the set was still there but all the actors had been sent home. The ice planet was like Hoth but no At At walkers or whatevr. Remember the ropes going around the Imperial Walkers in Empire? They were trying to pay homage but in the process reminding us of better films.

Just an opinion.
You're pretty alone in not liking the two new leads.
No. No he's not.
"Pretty alone" leaves room for a few other dorks to feel the same way, have no fear. The vast majority of people love them.

 
MOP really is wrong about everything, all the time. Impressive. Most impressive.
Opinions are not wrong, they're opinions.

I'm happy folks are happy but there is definitely room for criticism and there is plenty around the internet if you look. Solo and Leia were both welcome pick you ups but the leads are once again sort of so so. I acknowledge that the KR guy might have played it as written so then we can take aim at Abrahams.

Let's start at the top, opening credits and then we get a ship passing that is eerily the same as Star Wars and it's supposed to be but again the original was bigger and more impressive even vs the modern film, it is/was.

Let's talk about Tatooine II or whatever they called it, Jackaroo. In the first film they had Mos Eisley and crazy characters with lightsaber duels in the bar...this place was like the set was still there but all the actors had been sent home. The ice planet was like Hoth but no At At walkers or whatevr. Remember the ropes going around the Imperial Walkers in Empire? They were trying to pay homage but in the process reminding us of better films.

Just an opinion.
You're pretty alone in not liking the two new leads.
The Finn character played like Samuel Jackson in Die Hard 3.

Where were Finn's parents? His family? His ancestors? His planet? There were not many other folks that looked much like Finn. He kind of stuck out like a sore thumb but I'm glad everyone liked him. I'm surprised they didn't dress him up in a Michael Jackson leather jacket and have him moonwalk onto the Millenium Falcon.
So your problem with Finn is that he's black? Nice. Did you question the existence of Lando in the original trilogy?

Finn was taken from his family at a young age by the First Order and conditioned to be a soldier. They're nobodies, and he doesn't know who they are. That's all that matters about his backstory.

Your explanations of your opinions are even more wrong than your opinions.
Not that he's black but he's the only black person in the entire film. It was a big part of the movie and there really wasn't any reason to cast it the way they did. They cast it that way to appeal to a broader audience, just calling it like it is.

 
MOP really is wrong about everything, all the time. Impressive. Most impressive.
Opinions are not wrong, they're opinions. I'm happy folks are happy but there is definitely room for criticism and there is plenty around the internet if you look. Solo and Leia were both welcome pick you ups but the leads are once again sort of so so. I acknowledge that the KR guy might have played it as written so then we can take aim at Abrahams.

Let's start at the top, opening credits and then we get a ship passing that is eerily the same as Star Wars and it's supposed to be but again the original was bigger and more impressive even vs the modern film, it is/was.

Let's talk about Tatooine II or whatever they called it, Jackaroo. In the first film they had Mos Eisley and crazy characters with lightsaber duels in the bar...this place was like the set was still there but all the actors had been sent home. The ice planet was like Hoth but no At At walkers or whatevr. Remember the ropes going around the Imperial Walkers in Empire? They were trying to pay homage but in the process reminding us of better films.

Just an opinion.
You're pretty alone in not liking the two new leads.
No. No he's not.
"Pretty alone" leaves room for a few other dorks to feel the same way, have no fear. The vast majority of people love them.
Dorks? Whatever. I'll let you man-children get back to discussing what the first order strikes back will be about.

 
MOP really is wrong about everything, all the time. Impressive. Most impressive.
Opinions are not wrong, they're opinions. I'm happy folks are happy but there is definitely room for criticism and there is plenty around the internet if you look. Solo and Leia were both welcome pick you ups but the leads are once again sort of so so. I acknowledge that the KR guy might have played it as written so then we can take aim at Abrahams.

Let's start at the top, opening credits and then we get a ship passing that is eerily the same as Star Wars and it's supposed to be but again the original was bigger and more impressive even vs the modern film, it is/was.

Let's talk about Tatooine II or whatever they called it, Jackaroo. In the first film they had Mos Eisley and crazy characters with lightsaber duels in the bar...this place was like the set was still there but all the actors had been sent home. The ice planet was like Hoth but no At At walkers or whatevr. Remember the ropes going around the Imperial Walkers in Empire? They were trying to pay homage but in the process reminding us of better films.

Just an opinion.
You're pretty alone in not liking the two new leads.
The Finn character played like Samuel Jackson in Die Hard 3. Where were Finn's parents? His family? His ancestors? His planet? There were not many other folks that looked much like Finn. He kind of stuck out like a sore thumb but I'm glad everyone liked him. I'm surprised they didn't dress him up in a Michael Jackson leather jacket and have him moonwalk onto the Millenium Falcon.
So your problem with Finn is that he's black? Nice. Did you question the existence of Lando in the original trilogy?

Finn was taken from his family at a young age by the First Order and conditioned to be a soldier. They're nobodies, and he doesn't know who they are. That's all that matters about his backstory.

Your explanations of your opinions are even more wrong than your opinions.
Not that he's black but he's the only black person in the entire film. It was a big part of the movie and there really wasn't any reason to cast it the way they did. They cast it that way to appeal to a broader audience, just calling it like it is.
I think they cast him because he had charisma and chemistry with Rey. No black people I know give two craps about Star Wars, so don't think they cast him just to reach a ddifferent audience.

 
MOP really is wrong about everything, all the time. Impressive. Most impressive.
Opinions are not wrong, they're opinions. I'm happy folks are happy but there is definitely room for criticism and there is plenty around the internet if you look. Solo and Leia were both welcome pick you ups but the leads are once again sort of so so. I acknowledge that the KR guy might have played it as written so then we can take aim at Abrahams.

Let's start at the top, opening credits and then we get a ship passing that is eerily the same as Star Wars and it's supposed to be but again the original was bigger and more impressive even vs the modern film, it is/was.

Let's talk about Tatooine II or whatever they called it, Jackaroo. In the first film they had Mos Eisley and crazy characters with lightsaber duels in the bar...this place was like the set was still there but all the actors had been sent home. The ice planet was like Hoth but no At At walkers or whatevr. Remember the ropes going around the Imperial Walkers in Empire? They were trying to pay homage but in the process reminding us of better films.

Just an opinion.
You're pretty alone in not liking the two new leads.
The Finn character played like Samuel Jackson in Die Hard 3. Where were Finn's parents? His family? His ancestors? His planet? There were not many other folks that looked much like Finn. He kind of stuck out like a sore thumb but I'm glad everyone liked him. I'm surprised they didn't dress him up in a Michael Jackson leather jacket and have him moonwalk onto the Millenium Falcon.
So your problem with Finn is that he's black? Nice. Did you question the existence of Lando in the original trilogy?

Finn was taken from his family at a young age by the First Order and conditioned to be a soldier. They're nobodies, and he doesn't know who they are. That's all that matters about his backstory.

Your explanations of your opinions are even more wrong than your opinions.
Not that he's black but he's the only black person in the entire film. It was a big part of the movie and there really wasn't any reason to cast it the way they did. They cast it that way to appeal to a broader audience, just calling it like it is.
Or JJ really liked Boyega's work and talent, thought he would be good in the role he imagined and wanted to work with him.

 
MOP really is wrong about everything, all the time. Impressive. Most impressive.
Opinions are not wrong, they're opinions.

I'm happy folks are happy but there is definitely room for criticism and there is plenty around the internet if you look. Solo and Leia were both welcome pick you ups but the leads are once again sort of so so. I acknowledge that the KR guy might have played it as written so then we can take aim at Abrahams.

Let's start at the top, opening credits and then we get a ship passing that is eerily the same as Star Wars and it's supposed to be but again the original was bigger and more impressive even vs the modern film, it is/was.

Let's talk about Tatooine II or whatever they called it, Jackaroo. In the first film they had Mos Eisley and crazy characters with lightsaber duels in the bar...this place was like the set was still there but all the actors had been sent home. The ice planet was like Hoth but no At At walkers or whatevr. Remember the ropes going around the Imperial Walkers in Empire? They were trying to pay homage but in the process reminding us of better films.

Just an opinion.
You're pretty alone in not liking the two new leads.
The Finn character played like Samuel Jackson in Die Hard 3.

Where were Finn's parents? His family? His ancestors? His planet? There were not many other folks that looked much like Finn. He kind of stuck out like a sore thumb but I'm glad everyone liked him. I'm surprised they didn't dress him up in a Michael Jackson leather jacket and have him moonwalk onto the Millenium Falcon.
So your problem with Finn is that he's black? Nice. Did you question the existence of Lando in the original trilogy?

Finn was taken from his family at a young age by the First Order and conditioned to be a soldier. They're nobodies, and he doesn't know who they are. That's all that matters about his backstory.

Your explanations of your opinions are even more wrong than your opinions.
Not that he's black but he's the only black person in the entire film. It was a big part of the movie and there really wasn't any reason to cast it the way they did. They cast it that way to appeal to a broader audience, just calling it like it is.
Why do you see color? He did a great job.

How about Lando? You ignored that.

 
Finn and Ren are about as enjoyable as Jar Jar Binks.
I'm sure you're just trolling lamely as usual, but if not, rethink yourself. Its clear you don't like black people or women as the main heroes in your Star Wars movies, maybe move on now.
It's the new Hollywood trend...

Starbuck turn to a girl

Star Wars let's make the girl the hero

Ghostbusters reboot with all chicks

Let's go back and recast some other films...

No Country for Old Battleaxes

Lordess of the Diamond RIngs

Alabama Jones and the Temple of Sales

The emasculation of middle age males in this country continues to rage on.

 
MOP really is wrong about everything, all the time. Impressive. Most impressive.
Opinions are not wrong, they're opinions. I'm happy folks are happy but there is definitely room for criticism and there is plenty around the internet if you look. Solo and Leia were both welcome pick you ups but the leads are once again sort of so so. I acknowledge that the KR guy might have played it as written so then we can take aim at Abrahams.

Let's start at the top, opening credits and then we get a ship passing that is eerily the same as Star Wars and it's supposed to be but again the original was bigger and more impressive even vs the modern film, it is/was.

Let's talk about Tatooine II or whatever they called it, Jackaroo. In the first film they had Mos Eisley and crazy characters with lightsaber duels in the bar...this place was like the set was still there but all the actors had been sent home. The ice planet was like Hoth but no At At walkers or whatevr. Remember the ropes going around the Imperial Walkers in Empire? They were trying to pay homage but in the process reminding us of better films.

Just an opinion.
You're pretty alone in not liking the two new leads.
No. No he's not.
"Pretty alone" leaves room for a few other dorks to feel the same way, have no fear. The vast majority of people love them.
Dorks? Whatever. I'll let you man-children get back to discussing what the first order strikes back will be about.
Anyone who cares enough to be posting in this thread is a dork. I'm referring to the nit-picking dorks finding a reason to dislike the new characters that everyone else loves.

 
Finn and Ren are about as enjoyable as Jar Jar Binks.
I'm sure you're just trolling lamely as usual, but if not, rethink yourself. Its clear you don't like black people or women as the main heroes in your Star Wars movies, maybe move on now.
It's the new Hollywood trend...

Starbuck turn to a girl

Star Wars let's make the girl the hero

Ghostbusters reboot with all chicks

Let's go back and recast some other films...

No Country for Old Battleaxes

Lordess of the Diamond RIngs

Alabama Jones and the Temple of Sales

The emasculation of middle age males in this country continues to rage on.
You sound like Eminence, and just as nonsensical.

Why can only a man be the lead in a Star Wars movie?

Why do you even care that the lead was a girl, when she was ####### great in the role?

And hey, the other lead WAS a man...but he was a black man, so it wasn't good enough for you.

 
"hey Tyrone lets go see Star Wars cause there's a black guy in it now"

-- how MOP thinks the world works
To pretend that Hollywood does not cast certain genders and roles, Fast and Furious for example is cast and put together to appeal to every demographic and minority in as many countries as possible.

 
MOP really is wrong about everything, all the time. Impressive. Most impressive.
Opinions are not wrong, they're opinions. I'm happy folks are happy but there is definitely room for criticism and there is plenty around the internet if you look. Solo and Leia were both welcome pick you ups but the leads are once again sort of so so. I acknowledge that the KR guy might have played it as written so then we can take aim at Abrahams.

Let's start at the top, opening credits and then we get a ship passing that is eerily the same as Star Wars and it's supposed to be but again the original was bigger and more impressive even vs the modern film, it is/was.

Let's talk about Tatooine II or whatever they called it, Jackaroo. In the first film they had Mos Eisley and crazy characters with lightsaber duels in the bar...this place was like the set was still there but all the actors had been sent home. The ice planet was like Hoth but no At At walkers or whatevr. Remember the ropes going around the Imperial Walkers in Empire? They were trying to pay homage but in the process reminding us of better films.

Just an opinion.
You're pretty alone in not liking the two new leads.
No. No he's not.
"Pretty alone" leaves room for a few other dorks to feel the same way, have no fear. The vast majority of people love them.
Dorks? Whatever. I'll let you man-children get back to discussing what the first order strikes back will be about.
Anyone who cares enough to be posting in this thread is a dork. I'm referring to the nit-picking dorks finding a reason to dislike the new characters that everyone else loves.
Speak for yourself, chief. I'm the not the one defending a bad movie in boba fett pajamas.

 
I'm sorry if I am driving folks nuts but please it's just my opinion. I don't actively go and attack anyone else for their opinion, perhaps ask for more explanation. I think you all really are worried some of this nonsense actually makes some sense to you. If you feel different and want to post back just state your feelings for why you liked the movie. I liked most of when Solo was on screen, he felt like a caretaker until he could pass the baton.

Solo in VII, Leia will go in VIII, Luke in IX...it's like Rocky where you have to start killing off main characters like Apollo, Adrian, Paulie

 
And Rick James is happy to post in the other thread he thought Luke would be more involved in the movie. I think it was pretty lame and we waited the whole movie for that? We had to sacrifice Han because R2D2 couldn't act quick enough and wake the bleep up?

In whatever year and technology these folks they have but they can't piece a GD map together? That one little tetris piece was the end all be all piece of the pie?

What was the real objective in this movie? When the planet imploded a few minutes later I realized that was it...it was anti climatic as all could be.

But that's me and there are a handful of critics who also have some reservations. You guys are being goofs for just drinking this up because they wheeled out some of the old characters. Take Solo out of this movie and you have a lot of angry folks. Luke will carry the next 2 films I suppose.

 
I'm sorry if I am driving folks nuts but please it's just my opinion. I don't actively go and attack anyone else for their opinion, perhaps ask for more explanation. I think you all really are worried some of this nonsense actually makes some sense to you. If you feel different and want to post back just state your feelings for why you liked the movie. I liked most of when Solo was on screen, he felt like a caretaker until he could pass the baton.

Solo in VII, Leia will go in VIII, Luke in IX...it's like Rocky where you have to start killing off main characters like Apollo, Adrian, Paulie
Don't sweat the insecure fanboys. It's nice to have some differing opinions in here. I bet if this place was around when the phantom menace came out it wouldn't be much different. Youd have the same crew trying to fill in the nonsensical holes in a terrible movie.

 
I'm sorry if I am driving folks nuts but please it's just my opinion. I don't actively go and attack anyone else for their opinion, perhaps ask for more explanation. I think you all really are worried some of this nonsense actually makes some sense to you. If you feel different and want to post back just state your feelings for why you liked the movie. I liked most of when Solo was on screen, he felt like a caretaker until he could pass the baton.

Solo in VII, Leia will go in VIII, Luke in IX...it's like Rocky where you have to start killing off main characters like Apollo, Adrian, Paulie
Don't sweat the insecure fanboys. It's nice to have some differing opinions in here. I bet if this place was around when the phantom menace came out it wouldn't be much different. Youd have the same crew trying to fill in the nonsensical holes in a terrible movie.
This isn't in the same universe as any prequel, including the one people like best in Ep. III. Different level entirely.

 
I'm sorry if I am driving folks nuts but please it's just my opinion. I don't actively go and attack anyone else for their opinion, perhaps ask for more explanation. I think you all really are worried some of this nonsense actually makes some sense to you. If you feel different and want to post back just state your feelings for why you liked the movie. I liked most of when Solo was on screen, he felt like a caretaker until he could pass the baton.

Solo in VII, Leia will go in VIII, Luke in IX...it's like Rocky where you have to start killing off main characters like Apollo, Adrian, Paulie
Don't sweat the insecure fanboys. It's nice to have some differing opinions in here. I bet if this place was around when the phantom menace came out it wouldn't be much different. Youd have the same crew trying to fill in the nonsensical holes in a terrible movie.
The movie is well made. I think the screen I saw it on might have been defective, it flickered some during the film and the screen seemed dark. The theater was new like this year. I just don't think I liked it enough to go see it again.

I think a few nods would have been fine but I can cut this film down scene by scene and it pretty much matches up to Star Wars with some Empire thrown in.

examples...the torture scene in the chair for Poe was similar to Solo in Empire, got it. The high up scaffold for the Solo scene with Ren, echos of Empire with Luke and Vader.

Again it wasn't a couple times, a handful of times, it was almost every scene.

 
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With all the different races, alien species, genders, and mannerisms that are displayed in the Star Wars universe, and this movie, some people are still caught up in the black/white thing. Odd, the world we live in today knowing our history.

People get cast in all kinds of roles for varying reasons. At the end of the day, its all about the Hamilton's however which way they can be made. But, this is Star Wars. No matter who they put in these roles, people are going to see it as it is an event... a worldly event.

The only thing this movie and movie experience was missing was some fan eating tuna in the theater. That would have made this movie top notch.

 
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:lmao: Ministry of Pain reminds me of this nerdy guy I knew in 9th grade, I can't remember his name anymore. He went and saw Empire Strikes Back on opening night, a couple of days before any of the rest of my friends, and he couldn't wait to rip it apart for us. He came to school and gave us all this detailed breakdown about how awful the movie was. He explained how the asteroid field wouldn't work that way, and there were flaws with the hyperdrive science, and the Millennium Falcon couldn't turn at certain angle, etc. It was all this pseudoscience to show how smart he was and how George Lucas had screwed everything up.

Anyhow, MOP just reminded me of that guy. :lmao:

 
:lmao: Ministry of Pain reminds me of this nerdy guy I knew in 9th grade, I can't remember his name anymore. He went and saw Empire Strikes Back on opening night, a couple of days before any of the rest of my friends, and he couldn't wait to rip it apart for us. He came to school and gave us all this detailed breakdown about how awful the movie was. He explained how the asteroid field wouldn't work that way, and there were flaws with the hyperdrive science, and the Millennium Falcon couldn't turn at certain angle, etc. It was all this pseudoscience to show how smart he was and how George Lucas had screwed everything up.

Anyhow, MOP just reminded me of that guy. :lmao:
Was that guy really mad about Lando being black and Leia being too good with a blaster for a woman?

 
And Rick James is happy to post in the other thread he thought Luke would be more involved in the movie. I think it was pretty lame and we waited the whole movie for that? We had to sacrifice Han because R2D2 couldn't act quick enough and wake the bleep up?

In whatever year and technology these folks they have but they can't piece a GD map together? That one little tetris piece was the end all be all piece of the pie?

What was the real objective in this movie? When the planet imploded a few minutes later I realized that was it...it was anti climatic as all could be.

But that's me and there are a handful of critics who also have some reservations. You guys are being goofs for just drinking this up because they wheeled out some of the old characters. Take Solo out of this movie and you have a lot of angry folks. Luke will carry the next 2 films I suppose.
I grew up with this, and I think the weakest scene of the movie involved Han, Leia was bad, and cringed when c3-po showed up. I think Kylo, Rey, and Poe were great. For me Finn was just good - just a few too many jokes and snarks.

I will admit that I wouldn't have had quite the reaction if there wasnt X-Wing fighters and other stuff I love in it, but all I wanted out of this is some good acting, good looking action and no stupid physical humor and fart jokes. It delivered on those big time.

 
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By the way- the guy who offered 60 credits to buy the droid- was it just me or did he look exactly like the giant from Game of Thrones?

 
:lmao: Ministry of Pain reminds me of this nerdy guy I knew in 9th grade, I can't remember his name anymore. He went and saw Empire Strikes Back on opening night, a couple of days before any of the rest of my friends, and he couldn't wait to rip it apart for us. He came to school and gave us all this detailed breakdown about how awful the movie was. He explained how the asteroid field wouldn't work that way, and there were flaws with the hyperdrive science, and the Millennium Falcon couldn't turn at certain angle, etc. It was all this pseudoscience to show how smart he was and how George Lucas had screwed everything up.

Anyhow, MOP just reminded me of that guy. :lmao:
Was that guy really mad about Lando being black and Leia being too good with a blaster for a woman?
Don't remember. It was more technical complaints than anything else.

 
And Rick James is happy to post in the other thread he thought Luke would be more involved in the movie. I think it was pretty lame and we waited the whole movie for that? We had to sacrifice Han because R2D2 couldn't act quick enough and wake the bleep up?

In whatever year and technology these folks they have but they can't piece a GD map together? That one little tetris piece was the end all be all piece of the pie?

What was the real objective in this movie? When the planet imploded a few minutes later I realized that was it...it was anti climatic as all could be.

But that's me and there are a handful of critics who also have some reservations. You guys are being goofs for just drinking this up because they wheeled out some of the old characters. Take Solo out of this movie and you have a lot of angry folks. Luke will carry the next 2 films I suppose.
I grew up with this, and I think the weakest scene of the movie involved Han, Leia was bad, and cringed when c3-po showed up.

I think Kylo, Rey, and Poe were great. For me Finn was just good - just a few too mang jokes and snarks.

I will admit that I wouldn't have had quite the reaction if there wasnt X-Wing fighters and other stuff I love in it, but all I wanted out of this is some good acting, good looking action and no stupid physical humor and fart jokes. It delivered on those big time.
Talk to me about the action because I almost fell asleep in most of the "action" scenes. I felt the special efx were very so so. Nothing blew me away they did this in this film form a technical aspect.

 
MOP really is wrong about everything, all the time. Impressive. Most impressive.
Opinions are not wrong, they're opinions. I'm happy folks are happy but there is definitely room for criticism and there is plenty around the internet if you look. Solo and Leia were both welcome pick you ups but the leads are once again sort of so so. I acknowledge that the KR guy might have played it as written so then we can take aim at Abrahams.

Let's start at the top, opening credits and then we get a ship passing that is eerily the same as Star Wars and it's supposed to be but again the original was bigger and more impressive even vs the modern film, it is/was.

Let's talk about Tatooine II or whatever they called it, Jackaroo. In the first film they had Mos Eisley and crazy characters with lightsaber duels in the bar...this place was like the set was still there but all the actors had been sent home. The ice planet was like Hoth but no At At walkers or whatevr. Remember the ropes going around the Imperial Walkers in Empire? They were trying to pay homage but in the process reminding us of better films.

Just an opinion.
You're pretty alone in not liking the two new leads.
The Finn character played like Samuel Jackson in Die Hard 3. Where were Finn's parents? His family? His ancestors? His planet? There were not many other folks that looked much like Finn. He kind of stuck out like a sore thumb but I'm glad everyone liked him. I'm surprised they didn't dress him up in a Michael Jackson leather jacket and have him moonwalk onto the Millenium Falcon.
So your problem with Finn is that he's black? Nice. Did you question the existence of Lando in the original trilogy?

Finn was taken from his family at a young age by the First Order and conditioned to be a soldier. They're nobodies, and he doesn't know who they are. That's all that matters about his backstory.

Your explanations of your opinions are even more wrong than your opinions.
Not that he's black but he's the only black person in the entire film. It was a big part of the movie and there really wasn't any reason to cast it the way they did. They cast it that way to appeal to a broader audience, just calling it like it is.
Hilarious. Your renewed fishing attempts continue to establish you as a ####### moron on this bored. Welcome back.

 
From the novel, this is a longer, interesting conversation between Ren and Snoke.

When next Snoke spoke there was an intimacy in his voice, a familiarity that stood in sharp contrast to the commanding tone he had used with Hux.

I have never had a student with such promisebefore you.

Ren straightened. It is your teachings that make me strong, Supreme Leader.

Snoke demurred. It is far more than that. It is where you are from. What you are made of. The dark sideand the light. The finest sculptor cannot fashion a masterpiece from poor materials. He must have something pure, something strong, something unbreakable, with which to work. I haveyou. He paused, reminiscing.

Kylo Ren, I watched the Galactic Empire rise, and then fall. The gullible prattle on about the triumph of truth and justice, of individualism and free will. As if such things were solid and real instead of simple subjective judgments. The historians have it all wrong. It was neither poor strategy nor arrogance that brought down the Empire. You know too well what did.

Ren nodded once. Sentiment.

Yes. Such a simple thing. Such a foolish error of judgment. A momentary lapse in an otherwise exemplary life. Had Lord Vader not succumbed to emotion at the crucial momenthad the father killed the sonthe Empire would have prevailed. And there would be no threat of Skywalkers return today.

I am immune to the light, Ren assured him confidently. By the grace of your training, I will not be seduced.

Your self-belief is commendable, Kylo Ren, but do not let it blind you. No one knows the limits of his own power until it has been tested to the utmost, as yours has not been. That day may yet come. There has been an awakening in the Force. Have you felt it?

Ren nodded. Yes.

The elements align, Kylo Ren. You alone are caught in the winds of the storm. Your bond is not just to Vader, but to Skywalker himself. Leia

There is no need for concern. Despite the Supreme Leaders cautioning, Rens assurance remained unbounded. Together we will destroy the Resistanceand the last Jedi.
 
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I'm sorry if I am driving folks nuts but please it's just my opinion. I don't actively go and attack anyone else for their opinion, perhaps ask for more explanation. I think you all really are worried some of this nonsense actually makes some sense to you. If you feel different and want to post back just state your feelings for why you liked the movie. I liked most of when Solo was on screen, he felt like a caretaker until he could pass the baton.

Solo in VII, Leia will go in VIII, Luke in IX...it's like Rocky where you have to start killing off main characters like Apollo, Adrian, Paulie
Don't sweat the insecure fanboys. It's nice to have some differing opinions in here. I bet if this place was around when the phantom menace came out it wouldn't be much different. Youd have the same crew trying to fill in the nonsensical holes in a terrible movie.
This isn't in the same universe as any prequel, including the one people like best in Ep. III. Different level entirely.
Yeah, I get people being annoyed it wasn't more original (again, that is not what Abrams does), but anybody who is over the age of 12 and says this isn't a huge upgrade over the prequels can't be watching the same thing as me. Some opinions can be wrong....

 
And Rick James is happy to post in the other thread he thought Luke would be more involved in the movie. I think it was pretty lame and we waited the whole movie for that? We had to sacrifice Han because R2D2 couldn't act quick enough and wake the bleep up?

In whatever year and technology these folks they have but they can't piece a GD map together? That one little tetris piece was the end all be all piece of the pie?

What was the real objective in this movie? When the planet imploded a few minutes later I realized that was it...it was anti climatic as all could be.

But that's me and there are a handful of critics who also have some reservations. You guys are being goofs for just drinking this up because they wheeled out some of the old characters. Take Solo out of this movie and you have a lot of angry folks. Luke will carry the next 2 films I suppose.
I grew up with this, and I think the weakest scene of the movie involved Han, Leia was bad, and cringed when c3-po showed up.

I think Kylo, Rey, and Poe were great. For me Finn was just good - just a few too mang jokes and snarks.

I will admit that I wouldn't have had quite the reaction if there wasnt X-Wing fighters and other stuff I love in it, but all I wanted out of this is some good acting, good looking action and no stupid physical humor and fart jokes. It delivered on those big time.
Talk to me about the action because I almost fell asleep in most of the "action" scenes. I felt the special efx were very so so. Nothing blew me away they did this in this film form a technical aspect.
You really want to have a discussion about it, this is how I felt:

The X-wing/Tie Fighter stuff didn't get me that juiced up, Poe was almost too good during that one scene where he took out like 7 Tie Fighters in 11 seconds.

But the scene with the X-Wings coming over the water was amazing. Visually, the crashed Star Destroyer Rey rode by on the speeder was incredible, but we saw that in the trailer. That's actually the shot that sold me on Abrams' vision for this.

As far as action goes, the Falcon/Tie Fighter chase at the beginning was excellent.

And most importantly, the lightsaber duels. WOW. They were raw, passionate, and intense, like the ones in ESB and ROTJ. Didn't look choreographed to death or performed by 130 lb acrobats twirling batons. The lightsaber battles had some weight to them, very gritty compared to the prequels which were just like circus acts, too clean and rehearsed-looking.

 

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