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Starting a new NFL team- Which QB would you want? (1 Viewer)

If you were a GM and could choose any current NFL QB to lead your team for the rest of their career

  • Peyton Manning (Age 30)

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  • Tom Brady (Age 29)

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  • Carson Palmer (Age 26)

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  • Elisha Manning (Age 25)

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  • Ben Roethlisberger (Age 24)

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I take Philip Rivers. This kid is going to be AMAZING...and yes I own him and brady on all of my dynasty rosters. Get Rivers now, while you still can.

 
Self-promotion thread.

I'd take Carson Palmer and hope my defense/running game is as good as certain teams. If it isn't, I know my quarterback can carry the team without a defense.

 
I think he spells it Eli
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Manning starting to show poise of veteran

Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/25/05

BY ERNIE PALLADINO

STAFF WRITER

Tiki Barber calls his quarterback by his given name, Elisha. But if Elisha Manning, known as Eli elsewhere around Giants Stadium, continues to run two-minute drills the way he did in Sunday's 24-23 come-from-behind victory over Denver, the running back may have to start calling him Captain Comeback.

The name's been used before, specifically by Denver quarterback John Elway. But since the end of last season, when Manning mounted a game-winning drive against Dallas that finished with Barber scoring with 11 seconds left, Manning has had a knack for breath-defying dramatics.

And nobody seemed to mind, especially in light of a win and a 4-2 record heading into Sunday's game against fellow 4-2 division rival Washington.

"Elisha was phenomenal," Barber said immediately afterward. He kept our composure in the huddle. That was a clinic on how you run a two-minute drill."

Run enough of those successfully and a guy can get a reputation. That gridiron creed, coach Tom Coughlin said, can propel an entire team. It may not win all the time. But Coughlin could not underestimate the feeling one is still in the game even when trailing by 13 points in the final 13 minutes.

"It gives everybody on the whole team the idea that, if we get the ball, no matter where it is, we can take the ball the length of the field and score," Coughlin said. "It's been reinforced now, and hopefully that will continue."

If nothing else, Manning's last two scoring drives, separated by an interception that could have deflated the Giants, proved his teammates believe he can handle the heat.

"The idea that, keep playing because if you have an opportunity, good things can happen, that's what did take place," Coughlin said. "We throw an interception, and it seemed like there goes an opportunity. And then we apply ourselves and we get another opportunity. The ability to take advantage of that is rewarding. The win, on top of doing good things with the ball and the drive, it provides excellent reinforcement."

If not for those fourth-quarter drives, the only reinforcement would have been the negative kind. The Denver blitz, though never sacking Manning, put plenty of pressure on him through the first three quarters. He threw off his back foot. He missed receivers.

But after Jason Elam hit a 28-yard field goal for a 23-10 lead with 13:18 remaining in the game, the Broncos stopped blitzing for a series to play more coverage. It was the old yardage for time trade off. And it might have worked had Manning, helped by an ideal 5-4 pass-to-run mixture, not gotten Barber's touchdown run out of the drive.

It allowed Manning to get his feet under him. The calm he showed in the huddle and on the sidelines after that, even after he threw the interception, carried through the whole roster and led to a methodical, final, 15-play march in the face of a resumed pass rush.

Ball distribution was key in the 83-yard drive. Five players — Barber, Amani Toomer, Plaxico Burress, Tim Carter and Jeremy Shockey — either touched the ball or had a chance to in the last drive.

"A lot's been made of this poise thing," Coughlin said. "He certainly is a guy who keeps everything in perspective. When he comes to the sidelines, he has good information. He can tell you what he sees, and he does have opinions on what he likes and what he doesn't like.

"He has the ability to put some of the bad things behind him and make the next play the most important play. He can pass that on to his teammates in critical situations when the pressure's on. They take strength in that he is poised, calm and under control."

Even a defense that struggled all day, but did make one important stop with 3:29 remaining, had faith.

"We knew we could come back when we were standing on the sidelines," defensive end Osi Umenyiora said. "We have an outstanding offense, and we knew they were going to get it going sooner or later."

It may be premature to hang the Captain Comeback tag on Manning right now. But he is forging just such a reputation.

Build enough creed, and people will follow you anywhere.

Giants notes

LB Carlos Emmons went for an MRI on the right pectoral muscle he strained in the third quarter while missing a tackle on Tatum Bell's 37-yard run. He did not re-enter the game and he may have to miss more time. Emmons had just returned last week from a bruised knee.

Reach Ernie Palladino at epalladi@thejournalnews.com
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Brady. He's a few years older than some of the young guns, but there's no reason he can't be top-notch until he's 35 or so. I'd rather have 6-7 years of guaranteed Super Bowl championship quality at QB than 10 years of very good play that may or may not ever reach that level. And Palmer's knee is a bit scary as well.

 
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Wow, no mention of Peyton? Is 30 that old? If I were the GM I would take Peyton, cause he knows how to run an offense better then half the coaches in the NFL. Having that much knowledge would let me sleep better at night, even if he is a few years older then the pack.

 
Wow, no mention of Peyton? Is 30 that old? If I were the GM I would take Peyton, cause he knows how to run an offense better then half the coaches in the NFL. Having that much knowledge would let me sleep better at night, even if he is a few years older then the pack.
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I think Manning's the best QB in the NFL. But part of what makes him so great is that terrific rapport he has with Harrison, Wayne and Stokley, along with the OL and Tom Moore. I'd lose all that on a new team. He's definitely better than Roethlisberger, but I'd get six prime years extra from Big Ben, and he wouldn't have the looming shadow of "can't win the big one" over his head. That made me vote Roethlisberger.
 
Brady or Roethlisberger? I went with Ben based of of age. Being 24 and having the kind of success he has is just too hard to bypass IMO.

Carson Palmer is running away with the pole of course because this is a fantasy board. :loco: Someone please convince me that he is a better option then Tom or Ben...

 
Big Ben.... Peyton has a winning stigma on him.... Brady is good but not 24, Palmer has had a serious injury, Eli hasn't shown much yet.

 
I'll take the guy who knows how to win super bowls, nuff said.
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Which one?
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You're seriously asking this question as a regular on the Shark Pool? Have you paid attention to any of Noah's posts over the years?
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Well 2 of them up there have won SBs. I have an idea, but still would like to know for sure. :yes:
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I know 100% who he's talking about. I think if you did a search of his posts then you'd know, too.
 
Big Ben. I know he can win the big game.
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You don't think Carson Palmer or either Manning could go 9/21 for 123 yards, 0 TDs, and 2 INTs in a Super Bowl?
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I don't think either of those guys could carry a team on the road through the playoffs to get to a SB. So it's a moot point.
 
Big Ben. I know he can win the big game.
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You don't think Carson Palmer or either Manning could go 9/21 for 123 yards, 0 TDs, and 2 INTs in a Super Bowl?
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I don't think either of those guys could carry a team on the road through the playoffs to get to a SB. So it's a moot point.
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You don't think any of the three former number 1 picks are ever going to even appear in a Super Bowl?And it's not a moot point, since his criteria for selecting Ben was based on his ability to win the big game, not get to the big game.

 
Big Ben. I know he can win the big game.
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You don't think Carson Palmer or either Manning could go 9/21 for 123 yards, 0 TDs, and 2 INTs in a Super Bowl?
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I don't think either of those guys could carry a team on the road through the playoffs to get to a SB. So it's a moot point.
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You don't think any of the three former number 1 picks are ever going to even appear in a Super Bowl?And it's not a moot point, since his criteria for selecting Ben was based on his ability to win the big game, not get to the big game.
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The Steelers did win.If getting to the SB was such an easy task, then what is taking Manning so long? Heck no I'm not about to assume that those guys will get there and win one too.

 
Big Ben. I know he can win the big game.
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You don't think Carson Palmer or either Manning could go 9/21 for 123 yards, 0 TDs, and 2 INTs in a Super Bowl?
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I don't think either of those guys could carry a team on the road through the playoffs to get to a SB. So it's a moot point.
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You don't think any of the three former number 1 picks are ever going to even appear in a Super Bowl?And it's not a moot point, since his criteria for selecting Ben was based on his ability to win the big game, not get to the big game.
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The Steelers did win.If getting to the SB was such an easy task, then what is taking Manning so long? Heck no I'm not about to assume that those guys will get there and win one too.
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There's a big difference betweeing assuming one of those guys will get to and win a Super Bowl, and what you said: that you don't think any of them could get to the Super Bowl. What are the odds of each player (Manning, Manning, Palmer and Big Ben) appearing in a SB in your view? Your first post led me to believe it was zero, but now I'm not so sure.

 
Big Ben. I know he can win the big game.
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You don't think Carson Palmer or either Manning could go 9/21 for 123 yards, 0 TDs, and 2 INTs in a Super Bowl?
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I don't think either of those guys could carry a team on the road through the playoffs to get to a SB. So it's a moot point.
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You don't think any of the three former number 1 picks are ever going to even appear in a Super Bowl?And it's not a moot point, since his criteria for selecting Ben was based on his ability to win the big game, not get to the big game.
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The Steelers did win.If getting to the SB was such an easy task, then what is taking Manning so long? Heck no I'm not about to assume that those guys will get there and win one too.
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There's a big difference betweeing assuming one of those guys will get to and win a Super Bowl, and what you said: that you don't think any of them could get to the Super Bowl. What are the odds of each player (Manning, Manning, Palmer and Big Ben) appearing in a SB in your view? Your first post led me to believe it was zero, but now I'm not so sure.
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My 1st post was only to indicate that I don't think any of those guys could have taken their teams or the 2005 Steelers team through the road gauntlet that Ben did to reach the SB. I never once tried to predict their futures.
 
Before Palmer's horrific injury I would have said him, but since he's still a question mark, I went with Eli Manning.
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This is NFL football, not fantasy football. Brady is a little older but he is a QB not a RB, life does not end at 30 for QB's. He has proven that he can win with average to above average talent around him not once, not twice, but three times. He's cool under pressure, a born leader, a strong accurate arm, and he makes all the right decisions.If your building a team, he's your man. He doesn't have Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, or the Bus on his team. He doesn't need a system built for him to win by not to make mistakes. He is the One.

 
Tough call. Tom Brady is a winner. Ben Roethlisberger is a winner. I'd probably go with one of those two.

Peyton Manning is also worth considering, but he hasn't been able to get his team over the hump.

I like what I've seen from Palmer, but I think he's a bit overrated right now. In FF? He might be the top dynasty QB. In NFL? I don't see how he can run away with this poll. Roethlisberger has been better. Brady has proven mor and is still in his prime.

 
1. Brady

2. Big Ben

3. P Manning

4. Vick

5. Palmer

6. McNabb

7. E Manning

ETA: This assumes full health for all players(especially concerning Palmer).

 
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I don't see how (Palmer) can run away with this poll. Roethlisberger has been better. Brady has proven more and is still in his prime.
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Age, Talent, Injury, and POTENTIAL would be my guess.
 
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