If only this were true.Mike Wallace on the Steelers trading block.
Insanity. Jackson didn't average 1200 yards and 8+ TDs at ages 23-25. He occupies the opposing teams no.1 corner and safety. Very few WRs produce those numbers in bracket coverage.When you have a great qb, wrs are a dime a dozen. That is a sad fact for Wallace to learn. He will play out his deal, go somewhere else and be mediocre, just like VJax will be this year.
I assume they offered Wallace the same deal if not better. Wallace is the vindictive one by holding out and acting like he's Larry Fitzgerald. He is not Fitzgerald, CJ or any number of top flight recievers. He is a damn fine WR and it isn't like he won't be missed but they arn't going to let a WR tie up their hand for then next 5-7 years. Plaxico Burress left and was replaced, Santonio Holmes left and replaced... Wallace is better than either of them I will concede but WR is a cog the Steelers have been very, very good at filling.Is AJ Smith the gm over there now? Very vindictive move.
You have to be kidding me. Read above. I said that Wallace was not offered a 1 year contract for 8MM. I said that the Steelers cannot afford a top ten WR like Mike Wallace. As it turns out, THEY CAN'T, so they moved on to their second option.Signing AB to an extension proved the quote I have been saying over and over, they cannot afford Mike Wallace. He was more expensive. Link one of my posts where I had bad information.Maybe. You gonna admit you were wrong about the Steelers' $ situation?Also pretty clear, given the timing, that Pittsburgh chose Brown as the guy providing more bang for the buck.AB just signed an extension. Wallace is as good as gone.
This is exactly right. They could not afford Wallace.Good thing TT knew how broke the Steelers were.
Forget it, he's on a roll.This is exactly right. They could not afford Wallace.Good thing TT knew how broke the Steelers were.
BINGO.Steelers are broke. Can't afford Wallace.
DOUBLE BINGO. But they can afford the next best guy.Same posters from the previous Mike Wallace thread. Homers who know the Steelers are 3 MM shy of being able to afford Mike Wallace. Steelers are broke.
Top ten guy is as good as gone. TRIPLE BINGO.It is not just the Steelers fanbase. People get so sensitive about their team. Did I mention the Steelers are broke and cannot afford a top 10 WR like Mike Wallace?Best Steelers Fisherman so far for the 2013 season. Good work, TT. You have a long way to go before you make the all-decade team, though.![]()
I like AB and think he is a good player. The big winner here is Sanders. The big loser here is the Steelers W-L record.News flash: Bill Gates is broke. He can't afford to buy a Lamborghini. That's why he bought a Ferrari instead.
AB just signed... MW has the Franchise Tag awaiting him in '13.AB just signed an extension. Wallace is as good as gone.
So, what is Wallace's value? You seem to agree he's not worth Fitz money, so maybe VJax money? You said earlier the Steelers were $3 million short of signing him, so that sounds like the ballpark you're thinking about. I think it's safe to assume the Steelers were willing to pay him a little more than they gave Brown--let's say 5 years, $46.75 million. Instead, he'll apparently play this year for 2.75. Assuming they don't franchise him (and assuming nothing happens to damage his value), next year he can sign a deal for VJax money--at $11 million/yr. he gets $44 million over the next four years. That means he makes the same amount he'd have gotten from the Steelers, except he's lost the interest he'd have made from the extra money he'd have made this year. Seems to me Wallace is on that loser list unless he gets more than VJax money.As for the Steeler record? Sounds like the same song we heard when they refused to overpay for Plax or to put up with Santonio's shenanigans. I think life will go on.I like AB and think he is a good player. The big winner here is Sanders. The big loser here is the Steelers W-L record.News flash: Bill Gates is broke. He can't afford to buy a Lamborghini. That's why he bought a Ferrari instead.
Carolina given their relationship with the Steelers or the Titans with Britt troubles seem much more likely. Then in Tennesse they can unload Britt to his "true home" Cincinnati.i don't pretend to know anything about the trade process now, but seeing how chargers handled VJAX, i doubt thiat would be a destination.think st louis or miami would be more probable.still hope to get him back on the steelers though.
I will bet you $100 that Mike Wallace does not get the franchise tag from the Steelers in 2013.And to add... this was a 5 year extension through 2017.13-14-15-16-17.So its not even this year. Plenty of space to sign Mike. Players such as Hampton, Foote, Rashard, Foster, Starks (with replacements already in the fold) wont be here in 2013.![]()
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And for the record, it will be my third bet from this message board. I am 2-0. Let's see if you want to put your money where you mouth is. Mike Wallace is as good as gone.I will bet you $100 that Mike Wallace does not get the franchise tag from the Steelers in 2013.And to add... this was a 5 year extension through 2017.13-14-15-16-17.So its not even this year. Plenty of space to sign Mike. Players such as Hampton, Foote, Rashard, Foster, Starks (with replacements already in the fold) wont be here in 2013.![]()
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Steeler front office.
Vjax is overpaid. Somewhere between 9.5-11 MM a year range for Wallace. He will not get max value because it will come with a draft pick on a trade.So, what is Wallace's value? You seem to agree he's not worth Fitz money, so maybe VJax money? You said earlier the Steelers were $3 million short of signing him, so that sounds like the ballpark you're thinking about. I think it's safe to assume the Steelers were willing to pay him a little more than they gave Brown--let's say 5 years, $46.75 million. Instead, he'll apparently play this year for 2.75. Assuming they don't franchise him (and assuming nothing happens to damage his value), next year he can sign a deal for VJax money--at $11 million/yr. he gets $44 million over the next four years. That means he makes the same amount he'd have gotten from the Steelers, except he's lost the interest he'd have made from the extra money he'd have made this year. Seems to me Wallace is on that loser list unless he gets more than VJax money.As for the Steeler record? Sounds like the same song we heard when they refused to overpay for Plax or to put up with Santonio's shenanigans. I think life will go on.I like AB and think he is a good player. The big winner here is Sanders. The big loser here is the Steelers W-L record.News flash: Bill Gates is broke. He can't afford to buy a Lamborghini. That's why he bought a Ferrari instead.
And I think you are right, Wallace will probably be a loser in terms of production on another team. Big Ben has a fantastic deep ball.Vjax is overpaid. Somewhere between 9.5-11 MM a year range for Wallace. He will not get max value because it will come with a draft pick on a trade.So, what is Wallace's value? You seem to agree he's not worth Fitz money, so maybe VJax money? You said earlier the Steelers were $3 million short of signing him, so that sounds like the ballpark you're thinking about. I think it's safe to assume the Steelers were willing to pay him a little more than they gave Brown--let's say 5 years, $46.75 million. Instead, he'll apparently play this year for 2.75. Assuming they don't franchise him (and assuming nothing happens to damage his value), next year he can sign a deal for VJax money--at $11 million/yr. he gets $44 million over the next four years. That means he makes the same amount he'd have gotten from the Steelers, except he's lost the interest he'd have made from the extra money he'd have made this year. Seems to me Wallace is on that loser list unless he gets more than VJax money.As for the Steeler record? Sounds like the same song we heard when they refused to overpay for Plax or to put up with Santonio's shenanigans. I think life will go on.I like AB and think he is a good player. The big winner here is Sanders. The big loser here is the Steelers W-L record.News flash: Bill Gates is broke. He can't afford to buy a Lamborghini. That's why he bought a Ferrari instead.
Perhaps you are right and they can't doesn't stop the fact you are just pushing buttons. Here are the real facts that MATTER: 1) Wallace can not sign anywhere else this season. 2) The Steelers have been amicable by not lowering the tender they have shown good faith to Wallace that has not been returned. 3) The Brown move is a long term move and now means the Steelers can shift cap room around NEXT season to still keep Wallace under the Franchise tender. 4) Given point 3, whether Wallace thinks he is worth what he does or not his only option to attempt to get that out of the Steelers is to act like VJax and essentially means Wallace is a Steeler for at least two more years. So if you think Wallace is as good as gone you should probably wait until 2014.BINGO.Steelers are broke. Can't afford Wallace.
If he only gets 9.5 - 11 MM, then he's a loser financially, too. He'll make less over the next 5 years than if he had taken the Steelers offer.And I think you are right, Wallace will probably be a loser in terms of production on another team. Big Ben has a fantastic deep ball.Vjax is overpaid. Somewhere between 9.5-11 MM a year range for Wallace. He will not get max value because it will come with a draft pick on a trade.So, what is Wallace's value? You seem to agree he's not worth Fitz money, so maybe VJax money? You said earlier the Steelers were $3 million short of signing him, so that sounds like the ballpark you're thinking about. I think it's safe to assume the Steelers were willing to pay him a little more than they gave Brown--let's say 5 years, $46.75 million. Instead, he'll apparently play this year for 2.75. Assuming they don't franchise him (and assuming nothing happens to damage his value), next year he can sign a deal for VJax money--at $11 million/yr. he gets $44 million over the next four years. That means he makes the same amount he'd have gotten from the Steelers, except he's lost the interest he'd have made from the extra money he'd have made this year. Seems to me Wallace is on that loser list unless he gets more than VJax money.As for the Steeler record? Sounds like the same song we heard when they refused to overpay for Plax or to put up with Santonio's shenanigans. I think life will go on.I like AB and think he is a good player. The big winner here is Sanders. The big loser here is the Steelers W-L record.News flash: Bill Gates is broke. He can't afford to buy a Lamborghini. That's why he bought a Ferrari instead.
Your tone is 1/2 better today, so it looks like the mods slap on your wrist worked. I ignored all you had to say, because there was no worthwhile information in it, just like your post above. You have Steelers goggles on, which means you are biased and cannot see the truth. The Steelers have no money to pay Mike Wallace. The Steelers cannot afford a top 10 WR. I am hoping that has finally sunk inI thought you had me blocked, how did you see this post?No one is arguing that he's outperformed his contract thus far. You continue to assert that Wallace doesn't have a megabucks deal because the Steelers have no room under the cap. I explained to you that they're roughly $8,000,000 under the cap. You ignore it. I explain to you how they can offer him a back-loaded contract and make it work under this year's salary auspices. You ignore that too.If, by "futile", you mean that you were warned by the mods for your behavior, then you are correct. The mods then deleted all your nasty stuff so there was no pee in the pool and page 3 of this thread no longer makes sense to readers. The way you write means you are an unhappy man. If you can't keep it together - don't post. I have a right to my opinion and I am well aware of the hyena pack mentality around here that supports Steelers management. In regards to your deleted statement about how you are some super respected guy in this anonymous message board:“Respect was invented to cover the empty place where love should be.”'Evilgrin 72 said:He reported me in a futile attempt to get me a timeout and then sent me a PM saying he had put me on his block list and that the Steelers were broke.![]()
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Now deal with the fact that the Steelers do not have enough money to purchase Mike Wallace.
He's not signed right now because he wants more than what they're willing to pay. Period. If they were $15 million under the cap right now, he STILL wouldn't be getting $12 million this year. That's not how the Steelers do things. The homers know this. But rather than listen to people who know whereof they speak, you prefer to just keep spewing the same incorrect point over and over and over, with your sole intention being to agitate. That's why you threw your little "The Steelers are broke" catchphrase into your PM to me (obsess much?) People are on to you, man, you're not fooling anybody. You want to incite the Steelers fans. Then, when people engage you, you run to the mods to save your hide.
You've showed your true colors, you're not here to learn or share information, you're here to be an irritant and it's blatantly obvious.
That's a shame. I can't fathom how unbelievably wrong you must feel right now.BINGO.Steelers are broke. Can't afford Wallace.
You're stubborn, I'll give you that much. Hey, if Trai Essex holds out demanding a 5 year, $700 million extension next year, my guess is they won't be able to afford him either.5 years, $42,000,000 for Brown and they're STILL roughly $7M under the cap for this year. But yeah, they're broke.He can still sign a long-term deal. I'm pretty sure their cap figure didn't change with the AB extension. But the bottom line is that the Steelers will only pay wallace or any other player what THEY feel he's worth, not what the player feels he's worth. It's been this way forever and will never change as long as the Rooneys are running things. Sure, it means a good to great player gets away here and there, but the long-term health of the franchise stays intact. That's why the Steelers almost never suck.LOL Wallace has to be pissed. He needs to just get in camp and just play under the franchise, he has no other play at this point.
Plus the Chargers just put money into Meachem, so it was just wishful thinking on my part. Rams make sense.i don't pretend to know anything about the trade process now, but seeing how chargers handled VJAX, i doubt thiat would be a destination.think st louis or miami would be more probable.still hope to get him back on the steelers though.
Favorite NFL team in your profile: Steelers. Of course you "trust that the Steelers will and have made fair offers to him". You are on the side of the organization. The Steelers did not pay Wallace because they could not afford him. /threadA whole lot of stupid in this thread. Can't believe I keep feeling the need to comment. The AB signing is just more proof that the Steelers can more than afford Wallace under their terms. I really want to emphasize that not lowering Wallace's tender is a class act compared to the way AJ Smith handled VJax. This is a league where Victor Cruz comes out of obscurity and 6th round Antonio Brown puts up 1,000 yds. and is an All-Pro return man. Mike Wallace is one of the fastest men in the NFL, he's a great weapon and a big time asset to the Steelers. That being said I trust that the Steelers will and have made fair offers to him. They have always taken care of their players and are one of the few teams that have a high degree of loyalty given that the loyalty is returned.
Interesting since I didnt think we could afford WallaceWallace was offered more than BrownJuly 27th, 2012Mark Kaboly | Tribune ReviewWallace was offered a 5-year deal in the range of $50 million, but he decided that wasn’t enough.

Steelers homer.Interesting since I didnt think we could afford WallaceWallace was offered more than BrownJuly 27th, 2012Mark Kaboly | Tribune ReviewWallace was offered a 5-year deal in the range of $50 million, but he decided that wasn’t enough.![]()
Interesting since I didnt think we could afford WallaceWallace was offered more than BrownJuly 27th, 2012Mark Kaboly | Tribune ReviewWallace was offered a 5-year deal in the range of $50 million, but he decided that wasn’t enough.![]()
He'll keep arguing that 2+2=5 until the end of time. He said earlier that Wallace would likely fetch, or is worth, $9.5 M - $11 M on the open market. He's been arguing the whole time that the Steelers couldn't afford that. We just saw they offered him a contract within his own range and that Wallace turned it down. He said the Steelers couldn't sign him long term because they were broke. They just extended Brown for $42 million. He's one of these LHUCKS types that will never admit he was wrong or that someone else is more in the know than he is. The whole point of this forum is to share information. All of us Steelers homers have been trying to tell him and everyone else who might be interested how the Steelers do business. He's not interested in learning or gathering potentially useful knowledge, he just wants to push his own erroneous agenda despite what anyone tells him.I can't fathom having no logic.Your tone is 1/2 better today, so it looks like the mods slap on your wrist worked. I ignored all you had to say, because there was no worthwhile information in it, just like your post above. You have Steelers goggles on, which means you are biased and cannot see the truth. The Steelers have no money to pay Mike Wallace. The Steelers cannot afford a top 10 WR. I am hoping that has finally sunk inI thought you had me blocked, how did you see this post?No one is arguing that he's outperformed his contract thus far. You continue to assert that Wallace doesn't have a megabucks deal because the Steelers have no room under the cap. I explained to you that they're roughly $8,000,000 under the cap. You ignore it. I explain to you how they can offer him a back-loaded contract and make it work under this year's salary auspices. You ignore that too.If, by "futile", you mean that you were warned by the mods for your behavior, then you are correct. The mods then deleted all your nasty stuff so there was no pee in the pool and page 3 of this thread no longer makes sense to readers. The way you write means you are an unhappy man. If you can't keep it together - don't post. I have a right to my opinion and I am well aware of the hyena pack mentality around here that supports Steelers management. In regards to your deleted statement about how you are some super respected guy in this anonymous message board:“Respect was invented to cover the empty place where love should be.”He reported me in a futile attempt to get me a timeout and then sent me a PM saying he had put me on his block list and that the Steelers were broke.![]()
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― Leo Tolstoy
Now deal with the fact that the Steelers do not have enough money to purchase Mike Wallace.
He's not signed right now because he wants more than what they're willing to pay. Period. If they were $15 million under the cap right now, he STILL wouldn't be getting $12 million this year. That's not how the Steelers do things. The homers know this. But rather than listen to people who know whereof they speak, you prefer to just keep spewing the same incorrect point over and over and over, with your sole intention being to agitate. That's why you threw your little "The Steelers are broke" catchphrase into your PM to me (obsess much?) People are on to you, man, you're not fooling anybody. You want to incite the Steelers fans. Then, when people engage you, you run to the mods to save your hide.
You've showed your true colors, you're not here to learn or share information, you're here to be an irritant and it's blatantly obvious.

Seems like you missed it. I said the Steelers cannot afford Mike Wallace. Instead they paid the second best WR on the team. Everyone else can read the thread and make their own decisions, no matter what you have to say. It usually gets deleted by the mods anyway.Interesting since I didnt think we could afford WallaceWallace was offered more than BrownJuly 27th, 2012Mark Kaboly | Tribune ReviewWallace was offered a 5-year deal in the range of $50 million, but he decided that wasn’t enough.![]()
He'll keep arguing that 2+2=5 until the end of time. He said earlier that Wallace would likely fetch, or is worth, $9.5 M - $11 M on the open market. He's been arguing the whole time that the Steelers couldn't afford that. We just saw they offered him a contract within his own range and that Wallace turned it down. He said the Steelers couldn't sign him long term because they were broke. They just extended Brown for $42 million. He's one of these LHUCKS types that will never admit he was wrong or that someone else is more in the know than he is. The whole point of this forum is to share information. All of us Steelers homers have been trying to tell him and everyone else who might be interested how the Steelers do business. He's not interested in learning or gathering potentially useful knowledge, he just wants to push his own erroneous agenda despite what anyone tells him.
Wallace should demand $50 million a year. Clearly, the Steelers aren't making any decisions based on what players are actually worth, they just can't fit him under the cap.Seems like you missed it. I said the Steelers cannot afford Mike Wallace. Instead they paid the second best WR on the team. Everyone else can read the thread and make their own decisions, no matter what you have to say. It usually gets deleted by the mods anyway.Interesting since I didnt think we could afford WallaceWallace was offered more than BrownJuly 27th, 2012Mark Kaboly | Tribune ReviewWallace was offered a 5-year deal in the range of $50 million, but he decided that wasn’t enough.![]()
He'll keep arguing that 2+2=5 until the end of time. He said earlier that Wallace would likely fetch, or is worth, $9.5 M - $11 M on the open market. He's been arguing the whole time that the Steelers couldn't afford that. We just saw they offered him a contract within his own range and that Wallace turned it down. He said the Steelers couldn't sign him long term because they were broke. They just extended Brown for $42 million. He's one of these LHUCKS types that will never admit he was wrong or that someone else is more in the know than he is. The whole point of this forum is to share information. All of us Steelers homers have been trying to tell him and everyone else who might be interested how the Steelers do business. He's not interested in learning or gathering potentially useful knowledge, he just wants to push his own erroneous agenda despite what anyone tells him.
Here fishy, fishy. The street lights are on. Time to go home.Your tone is 1/2 better today, so it looks like the mods slap on your wrist worked. I ignored all you had to say, because there was no worthwhile information in it, just like your post above. You have Steelers goggles on, which means you are biased and cannot see the truth. The Steelers have no money to pay Mike Wallace. The Steelers cannot afford a top 10 WR. I am hoping that has finally sunk inI thought you had me blocked, how did you see this post?No one is arguing that he's outperformed his contract thus far. You continue to assert that Wallace doesn't have a megabucks deal because the Steelers have no room under the cap. I explained to you that they're roughly $8,000,000 under the cap. You ignore it. I explain to you how they can offer him a back-loaded contract and make it work under this year's salary auspices. You ignore that too.If, by "futile", you mean that you were warned by the mods for your behavior, then you are correct. The mods then deleted all your nasty stuff so there was no pee in the pool and page 3 of this thread no longer makes sense to readers. The way you write means you are an unhappy man. If you can't keep it together - don't post. I have a right to my opinion and I am well aware of the hyena pack mentality around here that supports Steelers management. In regards to your deleted statement about how you are some super respected guy in this anonymous message board:“Respect was invented to cover the empty place where love should be.”He reported me in a futile attempt to get me a timeout and then sent me a PM saying he had put me on his block list and that the Steelers were broke.![]()
This is the guy that called me a "third grader"![]()
― Leo Tolstoy
Now deal with the fact that the Steelers do not have enough money to purchase Mike Wallace.
He's not signed right now because he wants more than what they're willing to pay. Period. If they were $15 million under the cap right now, he STILL wouldn't be getting $12 million this year. That's not how the Steelers do things. The homers know this. But rather than listen to people who know whereof they speak, you prefer to just keep spewing the same incorrect point over and over and over, with your sole intention being to agitate. That's why you threw your little "The Steelers are broke" catchphrase into your PM to me (obsess much?) People are on to you, man, you're not fooling anybody. You want to incite the Steelers fans. Then, when people engage you, you run to the mods to save your hide.
You've showed your true colors, you're not here to learn or share information, you're here to be an irritant and it's blatantly obvious.
I have no idea whether they'll tag him or not. They may be fed up with his contract demands and move on. They may still sign him long-term. They may put Rainey in the slot with Sanders and Brown outside. They may draft a WR next year. They may cut players next year that don't perform this year, or they may decide to extend other players if they have big years this season and decide they don't need Wallace. The only thing that matters is that they retain the option to do so.Is there any Steelers homer in here that want to take the $100 bet that Mike Wallace does not get the franchise tag from the Steelers in 2012? I am very interested in having someone step up to the plate. How about you, Angry Evil?
So that is a "No" to the bet offer? That is what I thought.If you change your mind, here is the way it has worked in the past. We set up a LeagueSafe account with two members. If you do not want your real name in it, then give your buddy $100 bucks and have him put the cash in. This is an open invitation for all Steelers homers in this thread.I have no idea whether they'll tag him or not. They may be fed up with his contract demands and move on. They may still sign him long-term. They may put Rainey in the slot with Sanders and Brown outside. They may draft a WR next year. They may cut players next year that don't perform this year, or they may decide to extend other players if they have big years this season and decide they don't need Wallace. The only thing that matters is that they retain the option to do so.Is there any Steelers homer in here that want to take the $100 bet that Mike Wallace does not get the franchise tag from the Steelers in 2012? I am very interested in having someone step up to the plate. How about you, Angry Evil?
NEWS ARTICLES > AFTER BROWN DEAL, WALLACE WON'T GET EXTENSIONPublished Fri Jul 27 8:24:00 p.m. ET 2012(Rotoworld) Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette confirms the Steelers will not be giving unsigned restricted free agent Mike Wallace a long-term deal after committing $42.5 million to teammate Antonio Brown.Analysis: Bouchette's colleague, Gerry Dulac, essentially said the same thing. The Steelers were already one of the NFL's tightest teams up against the salary cap, and the Brown deal increased his cap cost, if only slightly. Still, the Steelers won't be satisfying Wallace's long-term demands, and he'll have to sign his one-year, $2.742 million tender in order to play football in Pittsburgh. The organization could consider trading him before the season, or keeping him if he caves and franchise-tagging Wallace in 2013.
Street lights for fish? I am not making the connection.Here fishy, fishy. The street lights are on. Time to go home.
