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Steelers playoff hopes? (1 Viewer)
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Black&Gold
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Not sure yet, but Jacksonville's loss helped. Believe me, the rest of the AFC does'nt want to see the Steelers sneak into the playoffs.
Black&Gold
Footballguy
Week 16
Steelers over Ravens
Dolphins over Jets
Broncos over Bengals
Pats over Jags
Week 17
Steelers over Bengals
Pats over Titans
Chiefs over Jags
Piece of cake!
I think this would put Denver and Pittsburgh in as the wild card.
Not sure about the Jets tie-breaker.
Steelers over Ravens
Dolphins over Jets
Broncos over Bengals
Pats over Jags
Week 17
Steelers over Bengals
Pats over Titans
Chiefs over Jags
Piece of cake!
I think this would put Denver and Pittsburgh in as the wild card.
Not sure about the Jets tie-breaker.
SteelerMurf
Footballguy
Steelers are much better than their record. The way they lost at least 3 of their games this year were down right flukey and a result of unforced errors.
Good to see they are finishing respectable. Before this week, Steelers would have been eliminated with a Jags AND Cincy win.
So I assume if they both lose that's real good.
Go COLTS
Good to see they are finishing respectable. Before this week, Steelers would have been eliminated with a Jags AND Cincy win.
So I assume if they both lose that's real good.
Go COLTS
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I agree with this to a point. The Steelers had a lot of games this season where they dominated statistically but literally gave the game away with turnovers. But good teams don't do that and so they deserve where they are at.
Hammered Finz
Footballguy
Steelers would be a playoff lock in the PATHETIC NFC..
I know
I know
yinzer
Footballguy
They need any of the following while themselves winning out:
Broncos losing both
Jags losing both
Jets losing 1 (maybe both, I think Steelers conference record would be better adding cincy and baltimore wins though)
It could happen, esp since Jags play NE and KC @ KC, and Jets seem up and down, but still a longshot
And this is all if they beat the bungals and ravens
Broncos losing both
Jags losing both
Jets losing 1 (maybe both, I think Steelers conference record would be better adding cincy and baltimore wins though)
It could happen, esp since Jags play NE and KC @ KC, and Jets seem up and down, but still a longshot
And this is all if they beat the bungals and ravens
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
jesus.
to answer the questions and respond to a few statements:
Their hopes are slim, below 1%. it's not going to happen.
The rest of the AFC is not scared of the steelers sneaking into the playoffs. No playoff bound team right now is scared of the steelers. believe me, they have much bigger fish to fry.
The steelers are not "much better than their record." I keep hearing people say this and it just isn't true. They fumble too much, Ben throws too many INTs, the offense is unstable, the defense is inconsistent.
The Steelers are a .500 or slightly worse team this year. That's just how it is.
to answer the questions and respond to a few statements:
Their hopes are slim, below 1%. it's not going to happen.
The rest of the AFC is not scared of the steelers sneaking into the playoffs. No playoff bound team right now is scared of the steelers. believe me, they have much bigger fish to fry.
The steelers are not "much better than their record." I keep hearing people say this and it just isn't true. They fumble too much, Ben throws too many INTs, the offense is unstable, the defense is inconsistent.
The Steelers are a .500 or slightly worse team this year. That's just how it is.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
The Steelers are 5-1 in their last six games. I don't think any NFL team is afraid to play them but I bet the Panthers wish they didn't today.
Black&Gold
Footballguy
I didn't say that the playoff bound AFC teams are scared to play the Steelers. I just said that they wouldn't want to play them. They'll be coming in on a roll. Who would you rather play? The reigning champs coming in winning 7 of 8 or the Chiefs, Jets, Jags, or Broncos?
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
oakland 
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
They're enough of a long shot that it's not worth thinking about right now. The games they lost this year because of turnovers and sloppy play weren't games that a good team would've lost. Losing to Oakland when you give up under 100 yards of total offense is ridiculous, as is blowing a late lead to the Bengals and losing multiple 10 point leads to the Falcons.
Win next week and see if they still have a chance heading into week 17. Then I'll pay attention.
Edit to add that it's true that the team is playing much better now, especially on defense. But the season is 16 games and the slow start is probably going to end up being too big a hurdle to overcome. I believe they're one of two teams in the NFL in the top 10 on total offense and total defense... the other being the Chargers.
Win next week and see if they still have a chance heading into week 17. Then I'll pay attention.
Edit to add that it's true that the team is playing much better now, especially on defense. But the season is 16 games and the slow start is probably going to end up being too big a hurdle to overcome. I believe they're one of two teams in the NFL in the top 10 on total offense and total defense... the other being the Chargers.
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Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
The Steelers are an absolute longshot to make the playoffs at this point, but they deserve major kudos for not giving up on this season.
C
CrossEyed
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Agreed. And for the people who were blamimg Cowher for their early season failures, he has to get credit for keeping this team focused and playing well down the stretch.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
The Broncos. Give me a choice between the remaining three teams and the Steelers and I play the Steelers in a heartbeat.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
The Steelers are certainly playing better football but they've yet to beat a likely playoff-bound team from the AFC this year (losses to SD, Balt, Cincy and Den). Looking at the positive, they seem to have added two quality rookies in Holmes and Anthony Smith that will start for them for many seasons. Most of their key players are still young enough that this season should be one that will help them grow...much as 2002 was for the Pats.
If the Steelers hadn't won the SB last year I'd be much more disappointed this year. They'll be back!
If the Steelers hadn't won the SB last year I'd be much more disappointed this year. They'll be back!
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roadkill1292
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The Steelers would certainly be a tough out were they to get in. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see them win this week at home as the Ratbirds are banged up all of a sudden and perhaps with a lesser incentive to win, having clinched a playoff spot yesterday. Home field and/or a bye would be great but it's only human to let down a little. For the Steelers, it's a little like last year -- they haven't been able to afford a loss for weeks to keep their remote chances alive.
AIKENS BACON
Footballguy
Do the Steelers win the tiebreaker with the Jets? Does Oakland have to beat the Jets in the final game? Is this the only scenario?
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Yes, the Steelers would win the tiebreaker with the Jets. First tiebreaker is Head-to-Head (they didn't play), 2nd tiebreaker is conference record (If Pitt wins out, and NYJ goes 1-1, both would be 6-6). 3rd tiebreaker is strength of victory. Pitts SOV would likely be .472, NYJ's SOV would likely be .396. However, Buffalo would also have to lose one of their last 2 games as well. (They play Tennessee in week 16, and Baltimore in week 17). Buffalo would have a better conference record if they won out (7-5), but they would be tied with the Jets at 9-7, and divisional ties are broken to eliminate all but one team from the tie before wild-card tiebreakers (for 3 or more clubs) are applied. If the Jets win the divisional tie-breaker with the Bills, than the Steelers would eliminate the Jets. If the Bills eliminated the Jets, I don't know who would win that tiebreaker. I don't have time right now to figure it out.
djcolts
Footballguy
If the Steelers captured the #6 seed, they'd have a 90% chance of playing the Ravens on WC weekend. Why? 1. The Steelers would have to beat the Ravens on the way to get a playoff spot. The Colts would only need a win against Houston or Miami to clinch the #2 seed in that scenario (the Colts would win the TB over the Ravens (common opponents) and the Pats (conference record in a 3-way, HTH in a 2-way TB)).2. The Ravens would have to lose twice (including the loss to the Steelers that we've counted in this scenario) and the Pats win twice for the Pats to overtake the Ravens in the AFC standings. The Pats would lose to TB to any of the division winners because they have the worst conference record of the 4 (and they also lost to the Colts head-to-head).
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Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Dead on, I think.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
I make no claims as to the accuracy of this, and its still very much a pipedream. Maybe I'll start seeing a ray of hope of we can actually beat Baltimore (you know, the team that kicked the #### out of us about a month ago?)Anyway, this was posted on the stillers homer board:
--------------------------------------------The scenario is: CIN over DEN, PIT over CIN.Final recordsIT, KC, DEN, CIN, NYJ all tied at 9-7.IF the Jets are at 10-6, we won't make the playoffs.IF Buffalo is at 9-7, we won't make the playoffs as Buffalo would push out the Jets and have a better conference record than us.Assume: Tennessee is 8-8 or 7-9.CIN bumps out PIT via common games, KC bumps out DEN via division record.CIN, NYJ, KC are tied.CIN has 7-5 Conference Record, KC has 5-7 and NYJ has 6-6.CIN takes spot #5.Back to the top, KC, DEN, PIT, NYJ all tied at 9-7.DEN dropped via KC via divisional record.PIT, KC, NYJ tied.KC has 5-7 conference record, loses out to NYJ and PIT at 6-6.PIT has 3-2 common games record, NYJ is at 2-3.PIT takes #6 playoff spot.---------------------------------------An initial assumption was Tennessee is 8-8 or 7-9.Lets add TEN into the mix at 9-7.PIT, CIN, DEN, KC, NYJ, TEN tied at 9-7.PIT and DEN dropped via earlier reasoning.CIN takes #5 with 7-5 Conf. record, as was shown earlier (TEN has 6-6 Conf. Rec.)PIT, DEN, KC, NYJ, TEN tied at 9-7.DEN eliminated, as earlier..PIT, KC, NYJ, TEN tied.KC eliminated via 5-7 Conf. Record, compared to 6-6 with all other teamsPIT, NYJ, TEN comes down to Strength of Victory.Currently, here are the SOV rankings:TEN: .480NYJ: .429PIT: .398Add in PIT beating BAL (12-4, lets assume) and CIN (9-7)Add in NYJ beating OAK (2-12)Add in TEN beating BUF (5-7) and NE (11-5)SOV, not including the fluctuations of other teams records:TEN: .498PIT: .469NYJ: .393NYJ's wins, overall, were against inferior competition. Lets assume NYJ has the lowest SOV.At this point, we have to start hoping that the teams we beat do well, and the teams TEN beat start losing.Here are games that could help us (U) or hurt them (T)Week 16:CAR over ATL (U)NO over NYG (U)(T)CLE over TB (U) - double help from CLEMIA over NYJ (U)- part of scenarioCIN over DEN (U)- part of scenarioSTL over WSH (T)DAL over PHI (T)Week 17:BAL over BUF (U)(T)ATL over PHI (T)CLE over HOU (U)(T) - helps us double, hurts them one - 3 pt. swingKC over JAX (U)(T) - part of the scenerioTB over SEA (U)MIA over IND (U)(T) - this is possible, as IND will obtain a bye week with a Win + BAL losing.That is alot of games to depend on, so it is much easier IF:NE just takes care of Tennessee in week 17, after TEN takes care of Buffalo in Week 16ORBAL takes out Buffalo in week 17, after Buffalo takes out TEN in week 16.OR BAL and NE win in week 17.Personally, I'll take TEN over BUF next week, as TEN makes us rely on SOV while BUF would own us in Conf. Record.
It all comes down to who is tied. In a lot of the possible scenarios, the Steelers may need KC and/or the Titans to be in the mix at 9-7 to be a shield against Denver and/or Jacksonville.
Either way, it's a really long shot, and they must win both of their games. It's better for the Steelers to have Cincy lose @ Denver, then Cincy can be 8-8 if the Steelers at least take care of their own end of the business to at least get Cincy eliminated because Cincy owns the tiebreaker vs. the Steelers.
I'm not 100% sure, but if the Jets get to 10-6, and if the Bengals beat Denver, then the Steelers would defintiely be out.
It's not like a lot of the games that need to go in favor are all that far-fetched in terms of matchups, it's just the sheer number.
It's going to be interesting which game that NBC takes for Sunday night that final weekend. Hopefully it becomes almost a play-in game for one of the AFC teams in the mix to have a chance to win and get in.
Either way, it's a really long shot, and they must win both of their games. It's better for the Steelers to have Cincy lose @ Denver, then Cincy can be 8-8 if the Steelers at least take care of their own end of the business to at least get Cincy eliminated because Cincy owns the tiebreaker vs. the Steelers.
I'm not 100% sure, but if the Jets get to 10-6, and if the Bengals beat Denver, then the Steelers would defintiely be out.
It's not like a lot of the games that need to go in favor are all that far-fetched in terms of matchups, it's just the sheer number.
It's going to be interesting which game that NBC takes for Sunday night that final weekend. Hopefully it becomes almost a play-in game for one of the AFC teams in the mix to have a chance to win and get in.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
The Steelers just gave one too many games away this season so I don't think it is in the cards. They are literally a muffed punt from controlling their own destiny but that's what you get for turning the ball over.I just hope they can remain in it until the final week. A Steelers-Bengals game where the winner goes to the playoffs and the loser goes home would be a lot of fun.
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3MTA3
Footballguy
This game would almost be as nerve racking as the Super Bowl. To be at 2-6 and written off to storm back to make the playoffs would be something unheard of. I would probably have a heart attack if the game came down to a last second FG or something like that.
No team would prefer to play the Steelers over the likes of the Jets, Jags, and Broncos. A team who just a year ago won 8 straight games and is currently peaking. If you say otherwise you are just
Do you know heading into this last weekend there were 2 teams in the NFL in the top 10 in offense and defense, the Chargers and the Steelers.The Steelers are better than their record but turnovers took a toll and more than likely will keep them out of the playoffs.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Chances of making the playoffs:
Baltimore 100
Indianapolis 100
San Diego 100
New England 98.8
Cincinnati 60.6
NYJets 42.6
Denver 42.5
Jacksonville 40.7
Buffalo 6.7
Pittsburgh 4.6
Kansas City 2.3
Tennessee 1.2
Baltimore 100
Indianapolis 100
San Diego 100
New England 98.8
Cincinnati 60.6
NYJets 42.6
Denver 42.5
Jacksonville 40.7
Buffalo 6.7
Pittsburgh 4.6
Kansas City 2.3
Tennessee 1.2
Black&Gold
Footballguy
"So....you're saying there's a chance?"
Franknbeans
Footballguy
nightshift
Footballguy
better than last week & hopefully getting better all the time! 6th seed Wildcard... where have I seen this before?(HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Can the Steelers be eliminated this weekend if they win? I hope not, because the Jets might need the Steelers to knock off the Bengals, assuming the Jaguars and Bengals win this weekend.better than last week & hopefully getting better all the time! 6th seed Wildcard... where have I seen this before?(HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!)
Godsbrother
Footballguy
If JAX and CIN both win I believe the Steelers are eliminated. There may be other scenarios as well.
nightshift
Footballguy
GB, it might be if EITHER of them win.Let's keep it simple:Bungles lose,Jags lose,JETS lose,Steelers win!
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