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Stevan Ridley Support Group (2 Viewers)

In a redraft I traded him for Roddy prior to Thursday's game. I think we were both on the losing end of that trade.

 
Mr. Ridley, you are dead to me...

Maybe the strategy here is to drop him, and hope someone you play in the playoffs picks him up and starts him. At least we got some decent production in the middle of the year, but damn what a waste of a 2nd round pick. Impossible to trust @ this point IMO.

 
thecardiackid said:
Maybe the strategy here is to drop him, and hope someone you play in the playoffs picks him up and starts him. At least we got some decent production in the middle of the year, but damn what a waste of a 2nd round pick. Impossible to trust @ this point IMO.
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That was my thinking when I dropped Trent Richardson last week in two leagues.

 
TheCommish said:
thecardiackid said:
Maybe the strategy here is to drop him, and hope someone you play in the playoffs picks him up and starts him. At least we got some decent production in the middle of the year, but damn what a waste of a 2nd round pick. Impossible to trust @ this point IMO.
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That was my thinking when I dropped Trent Richardson last week in two leagues.
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This is exactly the kind of thing that will completely back fire on you. I'm holding Ridley, so if by chance he has a decent game down the stretch its going to be on my bench.

I think he will get another shot before the season is over...you just don't know when it will be so go with other options (which you should have since every Ridley owner should have prepared for this situation).

Richardson is a little different....he's a complete turd, drop away.

 
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TheCommish said:
thecardiackid said:
Maybe the strategy here is to drop him, and hope someone you play in the playoffs picks him up and starts him. At least we got some decent production in the middle of the year, but damn what a waste of a 2nd round pick. Impossible to trust @ this point IMO.
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That was my thinking when I dropped Trent Richardson last week in two leagues.
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if the guy you play is picking and playing richardson, you didn't have much to worry about to begin with

 
Rotoworld:

Patriots OC Josh McDaniels spoke about Stevan Ridley's fumbling issues on Tuesday, but shed little light on his Week 13 status.

"When things happen like this, in back-to-back games — or in this case a few games in a row — I think you certainly have to address what you can address in terms of trying to fix the problem," McDaniels said obliquely. "I have great confidence in Stevan as a runner. ... At the same time, obviously, ball security is the most important factor for our offense and for our team when we have the ball." McDaniels is talking in circles, but what he didn't say — we're moving forward with Ridley as our No. 1 back — speaks volumes. ESPN Boston expects a three-man rotation at the Patriots' "big back" position against the Texans, and we agree. It's quite possible Brandon Bolden will lead the way, with Ridley and fellow fumbler LeGarrettte Blount being mixed in lightly. It's impossible to see the Pats trusting Ridley in the red zone, leaving him as a low-end FLEX option.

Related: LeGarrette Blount, Brandon Bolden

Source: ESPN Boston
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The Pats might be the one situation where if you've been blocked out of all starting RBs that you can actually pick up a backup and reasonably maybe possibly hope they could outperform the starter on any given day/night.

 
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Bobby Guano said:
TheCommish said:
thecardiackid said:
Maybe the strategy here is to drop him, and hope someone you play in the playoffs picks him up and starts him. At least we got some decent production in the middle of the year, but damn what a waste of a 2nd round pick. Impossible to trust @ this point IMO.
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That was my thinking when I dropped Trent Richardson last week in two leagues.
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This is exactly the kind of thing that will completely back fire on you. I'm holding Ridley, so if by chance he has a decent game down the stretch its going to be on my bench.

I think he will get another shot before the season is over...you just don't know when it will be so go with other options (which you should have since every Ridley owner should have prepared for this situation).

Richardson is a little different....he's a complete turd, drop away.
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Completely disagree. I would drop him in a heartbeat.

At this point in the season other FF playoff-bound teams have their rosters pretty well set.

It will take Ridley at least several more part-time appearances with no fumbles before he gets another "meaningful shot." By that time we're talking Week 15/16 and FF playoff teams who got that far aren't all-of-a-sudden take a chance on Ridley who then blows up against your team in the championship game.

 
PhantomJB said:
Bobby Guano said:
TheCommish said:
thecardiackid said:
Maybe the strategy here is to drop him, and hope someone you play in the playoffs picks him up and starts him. At least we got some decent production in the middle of the year, but damn what a waste of a 2nd round pick. Impossible to trust @ this point IMO.
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That was my thinking when I dropped Trent Richardson last week in two leagues.
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This is exactly the kind of thing that will completely back fire on you. I'm holding Ridley, so if by chance he has a decent game down the stretch its going to be on my bench.

I think he will get another shot before the season is over...you just don't know when it will be so go with other options (which you should have since every Ridley owner should have prepared for this situation).

Richardson is a little different....he's a complete turd, drop away.
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Completely disagree. I would drop him in a heartbeat.

At this point in the season other FF playoff-bound teams have their rosters pretty well set.

It will take Ridley at least several more part-time appearances with no fumbles before he gets another "meaningful shot." By that time we're talking Week 15/16 and FF playoff teams who got that far aren't all-of-a-sudden take a chance on Ridley who then blows up against your team in the championship game.
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There is no reason to drop him unless you have more value on your waiver wire. I would generally agree that you cannot drop Ridley.

 
The guy is a much much better runner then Blount and bolden. Yes he fumbled so did Brady the next drive. Everyone was having troubles not just Ridley. I hope the pats drop him and some other team licks him up cause a fable problem can be fixed ala tiki barber.

 
Rotoworld from earlier today:

ESPN Boston expects a rotation at the Patriots' "big back" position for the short-term future.

Beat writer Mike Reiss states the obvious, saying "the days of [stevan] Ridley playing a running back-high 45 percent of the offensive snaps, as he did last year, are over. Too risky." Ridley has lost fumbles in consecutive games and has now coughed it up four times on the season. LeGarrette Blount has also had fumble issues and Brandon Bolden is a backup-caliber player. Ridley is likely to still get some chances, but he probably won't start and is unlikely to get chances in red-zone situations for now. Passing back Shane Vereen is the only Patriots runner we'd feel comfortable starting against the Texans Sunday.

Related: LeGarrette Blount, Brandon Bolden

Source: ESPN Boston
Nov 26 - 12:50 PM
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Bobbyn2022 said:
The guy is a much much better runner then Blount and bolden. Yes he fumbled so did Brady the next drive. Everyone was having troubles not just Ridley. I hope the pats drop him and some other team licks him up cause a fable problem can be fixed ala tiki barber.
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This might not be the forum for this...

 
Is there a buy low chance here? I'm considering making an offer for him for my rebuilding team, but I really don't watch Pat's games or see how he has been doing other than hearing about the fumbles. Also what does his contract look like, will he go somewhere else soon or is he a patriot for a while?

 
Rotoworld:

Coach Bill Belichick says Sunday's benching of Stevan Ridley wasn't about sending a message, but putting the Patriots in the best position to win.

"If I have a message to send to somebody, I’ll just sit down and talk to them and tell them what it is," Belichick said in Monday's presser. "This isn’t cryptic. ... Along with every other decision on the team that I make, (the inactive players are) made with what gives our team, in our opinion, the best opportunity to win on Sundays." Taking Belichick at his word, it means he thinks fellow fumbler LeGarrette Blount gives the Pats a better chance to win than Ridley, but we digress. With the Pats' backfield now in all-out Lord of the Flies mode, it's going to be awfully hard to trust anyone other than Shane Vereen for fantasy purposes in Week 14.

Related: LeGarrette Blount, Shane Vereen, Brandon Bolden

Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com
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GeeYouknit said:
Is there a buy low chance here? I'm considering making an offer for him for my rebuilding team, but I really don't watch Pat's games or see how he has been doing other than hearing about the fumbles. Also what does his contract look like, will he go somewhere else soon or is he a patriot for a while?
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Last year teams had to gameplan for Gronk, Welker, & a murderer so I think he was a product of his environment. He is a decent talent that can't hold the ball and doesn't catch passes.

He's one fumble away from being cut, honestly I think he might get the axe at the end of the year regardless.

Buy low, depends how low - I wouldn't give up Marcus Lattimore for him... Maybe Kendall Hunter or Dennis Johnson low, but the owner prob wouldn't accept that. With all things considered, I'd avoid.

 
Anyone have any speculation on how this plays out long term? Think they draft someone or pursue a free agent? Or roll with Ridley for another year? At first glace I'd say that they draft an early down back in the first 4 rounds because they don't like to spend big money at RB, but the more I think about it, the more I could see them signing an unheralded free agent. A guy with talent and a team first attitude but who won't command big money. Toby Gerhart is that man.

 
Rotoworld:

ESPN Boston's Mike Reiss' "gut feeling" is that Stevan Ridley's days as the Patriots' lead back are "probably over."

Reiss believes Ridley's time with the Patriots has "officially reached a crossroads." It's important to emphasize that this is just Reiss' gut feeling, but he follows the Patriots as close, if not closer, than anyone in the business. Speaking about his production meeting with coach Bill Belichick during Sunday's telecast, CBS' Dan Dierdorf said Belichick's "intolerance has reached the boiling point when it comes to turnovers." At the very least, Ridley is going to be staring at a reserve role if he's active for Week 14. It's quite possible he'll be a healthy scratch for the second consecutive week. Ridley can't be trusted for the fantasy playoffs.

Related: LeGarrette Blount, Shane Vereen, Brandon Bolden

Source: ESPN Boston
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GeeYouknit said:
Is there a buy low chance here? I'm considering making an offer for him for my rebuilding team, but I really don't watch Pat's games or see how he has been doing other than hearing about the fumbles. Also what does his contract look like, will he go somewhere else soon or is he a patriot for a while?
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Depends on the offer. He's very good at what he does, but he lacks top-end speed, the ability to not freaking fumble, and has marginal receiving ability. He was great in NE because there are 1,000 plays a game, including a lot of 4 minute offense and red zone situations. You don't get that same situation with other teams.

I'm not sure I see them cutting him in the off-season, there's very little reason to just keep him around as a fringe RB3/RB4 type. He's dirt cheap, still young, and has upside if he can figure out whatever his problem is.

I wouldn't be pricing him as someone that I expect to be a starting RB in 2014, so it totally depends on what you're giving up.

 
FF Ninja said:
Anyone have any speculation on how this plays out long term? Think they draft someone or pursue a free agent? Or roll with Ridley for another year? At first glace I'd say that they draft an early down back in the first 4 rounds because they don't like to spend big money at RB, but the more I think about it, the more I could see them signing an unheralded free agent. A guy with talent and a team first attitude but who won't command big money. Toby Gerhart is that man.
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I have no idea about the gerharts of fa, but ridley and vereen will be on the last year of their rookie deals next year, so I expect them to draft another rb

 
fantasycurse42 said:
GeeYouknit said:
Is there a buy low chance here? I'm considering making an offer for him for my rebuilding team, but I really don't watch Pat's games or see how he has been doing other than hearing about the fumbles. Also what does his contract look like, will he go somewhere else soon or is he a patriot for a while?
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Last year teams had to gameplan for Gronk, Welker, & a murderer so I think he was a product of his environment. He is a decent talent that can't hold the ball and doesn't catch passes.

He's one fumble away from being cut, honestly I think he might get the axe at the end of the year regardless.

Buy low, depends how low - I wouldn't give up Marcus Lattimore for him... Maybe Kendall Hunter or Dennis Johnson low, but the owner prob wouldn't accept that. With all things considered, I'd avoid.
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I'd be extremely surprised if he was cut, but when he gets back on teh field, and how much he plays, are anybody's guess

 
geez, Ben Tate is gonna end up in New England next year. Ridley is going to have to find a new home. Maybe San Diego.

 
Too bad... he looked good when he got back on track.... and then more fumbles. Sharize Young?, thinks he's in this week, build him up for the postseason run. Not valuable in FF but she may be right. He is the best runner on the team if he holds onto the ball and they could use a player like him. Having said that, no one really knows and they certainly have good depth at rb. Vereen is looking good but not really a between the tackles guy. Bolden isn't excelling, Blount looks good. If Ridley is inactive again, I'd guess his time in NE is winding down... then its wait to see what they do in the draft.

 
Shutout said:
geez, Ben Tate is gonna end up in New England next year. Ridley is going to have to find a new home. Maybe San Diego.
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Personally I'd think that spending a bunch of money on a premium FA like Tate is probably the least likely scenario for NE. Blount is also a UFA after this year -- if he'll take a short term low dollar deal he might be back, but I'd guess they draft a cheaper younger replacement in the middle rounds.

Ridley is too good a player to just cut, particularly considering his low $$$ cost against the cap. Ball security is a correctable issue also, so they'll probably look to keep Ridley around to see if they can work things out.

Ridley, Vereen, and Bolden are all FA after 2014, so I'd guess that they reload the backfield in the next two drafts and start grooming some young guys as replacements. They've had a ton of success rotating cheap young players (still on rookie deals) in specific roles lately, and I don't see them changing things up by spending more (even in the $2 - 3 million per year range) for any individual RB.

 
NREC34 said:
Clifford said:
droppable in redraft?
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Yes after week 3
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Check his stats week 6,7,8 and 9....dude was golden for my team.

I admit his ship has sailed, but give him credit where credit is due.....

I think he is probably droppable....however, I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I have both Ridley and Harvin on my bench and want to cut them both....but didn't get the players I wanted through the waiver, so I still own em. It's a little tough to drop Ridley for....the Giants D/ST for example. I stopped dropping players out of spite a few years ago...but, it wasn't easy.

 
not sure why, but i think ridley gets 2 TDs this week IF he is active. Build his confidence type of deal. Tear him down, build him up sort of mindset.

 
Will Stevan Ridley stay in Bill Belichick's doghouse?

By Marc Sessler

Around the League Writer

Can the New England Patriots continue to sit their best running back?

Deactivated last week against the Houston Texans, Stevan Ridley is no sure bet to play Sunday against the Cleveland Browns. After fumbling in a league-leading three straight games, Ridley has lost the confidence of coach Bill Belichick, who leaned on a combination of Shane Vereen and LeGarrette Blount in Week 13.

ESPNBoston.com's Mike Reiss posited this week that "the days of Ridley as the lead back, logging 45 percent of the offensive snaps, are probably over."

If so, that's a risky play. Ridley's ball-control problems trail back to before this season, but he also leads the NFL in rushing touchdowns since Week 6.

Pro Football Focus ranks him as the 11th most elusive back in football, and his 57.6 yards per game leads the team. New England -- with Vereen, Blount and Brandon Bolden -- boast one of the league's deeper stable of backs, but Ridley is the best pure runner of the bunch. Lesser teams would have no choice but to put him on the field.

New England's 88 yards on the ground against Houston marked the team's third-lowest output of the year. Granted, they played from behind and leaned on Tom Brady's 365 yards through the air, but Ridley's absence was felt.

As in year's past, New England's offense is heating up at the right time. The return of Rob Gronkowski and the reliable play of Julian Edelman have the Patriots shredding teams through the air.

Still, there's going to come a time down the stretch when the ground game will be asked to guide this team out of a dark corner. That's playoff football. With the AFC ripe for the picking, Belichick's decision to sit his best back -- if it's a final one -- might come back to haunt this team when it matters most.

The latest "Around The League Podcast" debates the Seahawks' Super Bowl chances and asks "Who do you trust?" as the playoffs approach.
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Stevan Ridley is active for Sunday's Week 14 game against the Browns.
Ridley will be mixed in with LeGarrette Blount on early downs. CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora expects Ridley to see his first action in the second quarter. From there he'll reportedly be able to expand his role with effective runs and an ability to hold on to the football. Ridley isn't a trusted fantasy option for Week 14, but he could see an uptick in carries the final three weeks with a good game.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6487/stevan-ridley
 
Rotoworld:

Stevan Ridley played on 17-of-82 snaps in Sunday's win over the Browns.

Making his return from Bill Belichick's doghouse, Ridley shared the "big back" role with LeGarrette Blount (21 snaps). They each got eight carries. Ridley's role should grow if he can string together games without fumbles, but he's not going to completely eliminate Blount from the picture anytime soon. We can't confidently project more than 8-12 carries for either one in the Week 15 game against the Dolphins.

Related: LeGarrette Blount

Source: ESPN Boston
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it's not about Blount. Based on Ridley's performance in 2013, and more importantly, BB's reaction to it - no way they don't replace Blount with a RB if Blount leaves.

 
Not going on the Belicheck RB Rollercoaster this year, no sir. Unless they get a BJGE type of guy who never fumbles.

 
I'm still sure Vereen will be the receiving back but I don't think they want him as a feature guy at all. At least they didn't show that indication last year.

Ridley is signed and no way they cut him. He's on a rookie contract and will be with the team unless they trade him (possible?) because he's cheap.

However, its a buyer's market for backs and a lot of guys are going cheap, relatively. In addition, there may be a guy the Pats can get in the draft.

Moreno would make perfect sense if he makes it out of Miami. He's a heck of a pass protector plus can run a little. I have no idea on the Pats cap situation.

 
I think the pats add a RB in the draft. Not early but you can get a guy to push Captain Fumblepants and possibly take over his role. Sorry I don't trust Ridley with the ball in his hands anymore.

 
Gandalf said:
I think the pats add a RB in the draft. Not early but you can get a guy to push Captain Fumblepants and possibly take over his role. Sorry I don't trust Ridley with the ball in his hands anymore.
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Really? Fumbles don't happen int he NFL? I forget sometimes that the people on the other side of the ball are not NFL players either. Had a bad fluky season for them. Saying what you just said sound like you are just repeating what the popular opinion is regardless of if it was a fluky situation or not.

 
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