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IIRC, didn't Matt Moore and Smith combine a few years back when Delhomme was injured and wasn't it HEINOUS? I had Smith that year - I think it was a horrifying combo of Carr and Moore that utterly destroyed Smith's value. I'll happily hope Delhomme stays the QB...
Steve Smith in the 3 games that Matt Moore started in 2007:Avegared 4.5 catches and 41 yards per contest with no TDs in those games.
More like wait one more week before trading him and then sell highHe's got Tampa this week.Try to get him now while you still can.
Tampa's D is giving up big plays at an alarming rate. I'd be surprised if Steve Smith isn't over 100 yards in this game, and he'll probably score a long TD. If he puts up another 5 for 70 or worse type day on 10+ targets against this defense Smith owners are in big trouble.
The days of Smith scoring long td's are over. Jake cannot throw the long ball anymore.
I appreciate the good research. That's what I thought. I remember from that year that he not only sucked with them both, but he got NO DANG LOOKS. I think the magic between Delhomme and him is that Delhomme realizes that even when he doesn't look open, you throw to him and he proves that his superior athelticism/strength will make it pay off. Matt Moore and Carr wouldn't do that. When he wasn't open they'd just throw to some other dbag WR.Steve Smith in the 3 games that Matt Moore started in 2007:Avegared 4.5 catches and 41 yards per contest with no TDs in those games.
Steve Smith in the 5 games that David Carr played(4 starts, one game w/significant mopup duty) in 2007:
Averaged 4 catches and 32 yards per contest with 2 total TDs in those games.
Those calling for Matt Moore probably need to forget that and start building the voodoo shrine out of chicken bones for Jake's resurgence. (Although, as lousy as Jake has looked it probably won't matter this year if they DO switch them up.)
I'm not going to tell you that Matt Moore is Smith89's fantasy salvation, but this "research" is bogus.Matt Moore started the last three games of the 2007 season.I appreciate the good research. That's what I thought. I remember from that year that he not only sucked with them both, but he got NO DANG LOOKS. I think the magic between Delhomme and him is that Delhomme realizes that even when he doesn't look open, you throw to him and he proves that his superior athelticism/strength will make it pay off. Matt Moore and Carr wouldn't do that. When he wasn't open they'd just throw to some other dbag WR.Steve Smith in the 3 games that Matt Moore started in 2007:Avegared 4.5 catches and 41 yards per contest with no TDs in those games.
Steve Smith in the 5 games that David Carr played(4 starts, one game w/significant mopup duty) in 2007:
Averaged 4 catches and 32 yards per contest with 2 total TDs in those games.
Those calling for Matt Moore probably need to forget that and start building the voodoo shrine out of chicken bones for Jake's resurgence. (Although, as lousy as Jake has looked it probably won't matter this year if they DO switch them up.)
You're right. I used p-f-r when I was looking that stuff up, but mistook the # on the far left as the week played. It was obviously just the game # for Moore specifically, and the 2nd # from the left is the week. Mea culpa.That said, I still maintain a QB switch won't amount to a significant difference.I'm not going to tell you that Matt Moore is Smith89's fantasy salvation, but this "research" is bogus.Matt Moore started the last three games of the 2007 season.I appreciate the good research. That's what I thought. I remember from that year that he not only sucked with them both, but he got NO DANG LOOKS. I think the magic between Delhomme and him is that Delhomme realizes that even when he doesn't look open, you throw to him and he proves that his superior athelticism/strength will make it pay off. Matt Moore and Carr wouldn't do that. When he wasn't open they'd just throw to some other dbag WR.Steve Smith in the 3 games that Matt Moore started in 2007:Avegared 4.5 catches and 41 yards per contest with no TDs in those games.
Steve Smith in the 5 games that David Carr played(4 starts, one game w/significant mopup duty) in 2007:
Averaged 4 catches and 32 yards per contest with 2 total TDs in those games.
Those calling for Matt Moore probably need to forget that and start building the voodoo shrine out of chicken bones for Jake's resurgence. (Although, as lousy as Jake has looked it probably won't matter this year if they DO switch them up.)
Here are Smith89's stat lines for those three games:
Dec. 16, 2007: vs. SEA, 8 rec. 72 yards
Dec. 22, 2007: vs. DAL, 9 rec. 137 yards, 1 TD
Dec. 30, 2007: at TB, 5 rec. 48 yards
Smith averaged 7.3 receptions for 85.7 yards and 0.33 TDs in the three starts.
Link to Steve Smith 2007 stats at pro-football-reference.com
Link to Matt Moore 2007 stats at p-f-r.com
Link to all games started by Matt Moore in 2007 page at p-f-r.com (and boxscore links)
I don't they they will make a switch, but if they do, I'd rather see Feeley replace Delhomme than Moore. He played pretty good for Philly a few years back, didn't he?You're right. I used p-f-r when I was looking that stuff up, but mistook the # on the far left as the week played. It was obviously just the game # for Moore specifically, and the 2nd # from the left is the week. Mea culpa.That said, I still maintain a QB switch won't amount to a significant difference.I'm not going to tell you that Matt Moore is Smith89's fantasy salvation, but this "research" is bogus.Matt Moore started the last three games of the 2007 season.I appreciate the good research. That's what I thought. I remember from that year that he not only sucked with them both, but he got NO DANG LOOKS. I think the magic between Delhomme and him is that Delhomme realizes that even when he doesn't look open, you throw to him and he proves that his superior athelticism/strength will make it pay off. Matt Moore and Carr wouldn't do that. When he wasn't open they'd just throw to some other dbag WR.Steve Smith in the 3 games that Matt Moore started in 2007:Avegared 4.5 catches and 41 yards per contest with no TDs in those games.
Steve Smith in the 5 games that David Carr played(4 starts, one game w/significant mopup duty) in 2007:
Averaged 4 catches and 32 yards per contest with 2 total TDs in those games.
Those calling for Matt Moore probably need to forget that and start building the voodoo shrine out of chicken bones for Jake's resurgence. (Although, as lousy as Jake has looked it probably won't matter this year if they DO switch them up.)
Here are Smith89's stat lines for those three games:
Dec. 16, 2007: vs. SEA, 8 rec. 72 yards
Dec. 22, 2007: vs. DAL, 9 rec. 137 yards, 1 TD
Dec. 30, 2007: at TB, 5 rec. 48 yards
Smith averaged 7.3 receptions for 85.7 yards and 0.33 TDs in the three starts.
Link to Steve Smith 2007 stats at pro-football-reference.com
Link to Matt Moore 2007 stats at p-f-r.com
Link to all games started by Matt Moore in 2007 page at p-f-r.com (and boxscore links)
Just checked his game logs. Looked like in 2006 and 2007, he had 4 games with significant playing time. He threw for over 300 yards in 2 of those games, with 3 TDs in each game. The other 2 games, though, he only threw for 116 and 220 yards, with 5 INTS.
I would go for Feeley, too. He sounds like Delhomme with those helter-skelter games, which could help Steve Smith. Smith needs a risk taker at QB IMO, not a checkdown artist. I think Moore is too safe and since Smith is doubled all the time, Moore wouldn't throw the ball his way enough. JMO.
I wished he were droppable actually. He will stay on my bench from here on out until NFL.com deems him droppable.Sad to say... he's nothing but bench depth at this point. I sat Stewart for him at a flex spot.
Carolina got their running game back on track this week. That's a good sign, even if it was against TB. They also have two straight wins coming out of the bye. I'm not giving up hope on SS just yet. Ridiculous that you'd consider a talent like him droppable.I wished he were droppable actually. He will stay on my bench from here on out until NFL.com deems him droppable.Sad to say... he's nothing but bench depth at this point. I sat Stewart for him at a flex spot.
Looks like I'll be there with you, accompanying on balalaika.I'm beyond panicking. I've moved onto stage 5: acceptance. This is what Steve is--as of this moment, almost absolutely worthless. He's too good to cut, but he's got almost negative trade value. No real choice but to hold/pray now.Eviloutsider said:
Yes, and this is why I don't think we saw him. Why throw to a blanketed WR when you could hand the ball to someone and get auto-first downs? I didn't watch the game though. Did Delhomme look BAD or like a game manager? His stats sound like the latter, but I wouldn't be surprised by either...Bucs run D may be the worst in the league
alot of carolina homers saying delhomme can no longer throw the deep ball
The entire key is Delhomme and how bad he might be. If he just flat out can't get the ball there anymore, we're in trouble. Otherwise, what you just laid out is why I traded for him a few weeks ago. This might be a regrettable trade...
I traded Westbrook for him 3 weeks ago. Now Im looking to trade him away for a Grant or LT type (low end RB2)
He's on my bench until he gives me a reason not to be. Thank god for Sidney Rice emerging...
I can only speak for myself, but the "going rate" so far has been my asking for practically nothing and getting laughter or a "that dude's done" response in return.Clearly, the problem is Delhomme. Owners in my leagues don't care about that though, since we all know(them included) it's probably going to take an injury, act of congress, or a coach firing to get Delhomme put on the bench.
