Steven Hauschka (1 Viewer)

[Shawn]

Who needs to reach a round early when Hauschka isnt even rostered in most 10 man leagues. I think the Seahawks are being slept on big time this year. I also think many people underestimate Zach Miller and Sidney Rice. They were a sorry sight last year but this year the Seahawks are looking like a phoenix rising from the ashes with a new QB that looks like the best QB this entire preseason.

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

I like his potential. Seattle has a good enough D to be in most games, and the O likely won't be potent enough to punch it in consistently. I was taking him as my last pick when the Houston kicker got put on IR, so I took Graham instead.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Who needs to reach a round early when Hauschka isnt even rostered in most 10 man leagues. I think the Seahawks are being slept on big time this year. I also think many people underestimate Zach Miller and Sidney Rice. They were a sorry sight last year but this year the Seahawks are looking like a phoenix rising from the ashes with a new QB that looks like the best QB this entire preseason.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Why are you obsessed with starting threads on kickers? What's the point in talking about them?

 

[Shawn]

Why are you obsessed with starting threads on kickers? What's the point in talking about them?

wait im obsessed because i started 2 kicker threads? sorry i like to maximize my odds at every position

 

[SoBeDad]

Why are you obsessed with starting threads on kickers? What's the point in talking about them?

wait im obsessed because i started 2 kicker threads? sorry i like to makimize my odds at every position

Good thread. Hauschka kicks for an improving offense and he was very good last year - 25 of 30 with one miss from 61. Seattle was top 10 in extra points and FGs for the last 8 games of 2011. Source: Fantasy Football Index 2012.

 

[Run It Up]

I draft my kickers every year by putting all of there names in a hat drawing one and regardless of who it is take bironas and if hes somehow been drafted already take another defense and pick one up before the game.

 

[Shawn]

Last year Sebastian Janikowski won twice for me

 

[SproutDaddy]

Last year Sebastian Janikowski won twice for me

He might have been the one that scored the deciding points, but he isn't the player that won your game. Big difference.

 

[Shawn]

Last year Sebastian Janikowski won twice for me

He might have been the one that scored the deciding points, but he isn't the player that won your game. Big difference.

20+ points in 1 game not enough to be the deciding factor? if you dont care about kickers just go harass another thread please

 

[Das Boot]

Last year Sebastian Janikowski won twice for me

He might have been the one that scored the deciding points, but he isn't the player that won your game. Big difference.

20+ points in 1 game not enough to be the deciding factor? if you dont care about kickers just go harass another thread please

Just ignore any trolls, Kickers are well worth discussing.

 

[matuski]

SHARK KICKERSTM

 

[steveski]

Steven Hauschka, you say? Let's start hyping him up so he starts going in the 7th.

 

[gethugefast1]

 

[Mystery Achiever]

long FGs get more points and misses cost points...

FWIW, he ranked 16th last year in accuracy.

 

[Mike Herman]

Although it was two summers ago, most of our conversation with Hauschka is still applicable for those who want to learn more about a potential Shark Kicker:

Steven Hauschka: Soccer, Lacrosse, Football, Golf, & Neuroscience

 

[Leroy Hoard]

if you weren't concerned why are you reading a steve hauschka thread?

 

[karmarooster]

SHARK KICKERSTM

Seriously! I thought FBGs (paid content) was above this, but apparently not. Seriously, there is never a reason to take a kicker before the last round. Any other advice is fantasy blasphemy. There's a whole subs article here on how to prioritize TE, Defense, and Kicker in the late rounds.

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/faceoff.php?yr=2012&id=Endgamex

The scenario: You have 4 rounds left. 2 kickers off the board, 11 defenses, etc. etc. How do you order your last four picks?

The wall of shame:

Andy Hicks - I'm going to take Tight End first, then kicker, then Defense and then wide receiver. (Thus Kicker in 3rd to last round).

Pasquino - Next I would take the best wide receiver on the board and then go kicker then defense. (Thus 2nd to last round).

Tremblay - if I'm drawing a blank for good ideas among the remaining wide receivers and tight ends, that's when I'll pick a kicker or a defense. I'd probably take a kicker first in this instance since I'd expect more kickers than defenses to be drafted between now and my next pick.

Wimer - because more quality is available at kicker and there is no pressure to take your defense with 11 already off the board, try to maximize your fantasy points by going kicker before D.

These are fantasy "experts" for which I pay $30 per year who are advocating me jumping on a "stud/elite/top tier" kicker before the last round. This is bogus. There is no way to predict who will be an upper tier kicker, and even if you could, the difference is minimal per game. All you need is a healthy kicker on a team that isn't incredibly terrible. Why would you ever jump on the first 3-5 Kickers, and relegate yourself to choosing from average/below-average defenses after 12+ are off the board? You can actually play matchups with defenses, not with kickers.

FBGs staffers actually advocating kickers.... what has the world come to? There is no reason to ever take a kicker before the absolute last round of the draft.

 

[Run It Up]

Id just like to add to the discussion.

How do you guys sleep at night without Rob Bironas on your roster?

 

[Shawn]

so wait just because we take them in the last 2 rounds we can't talk and speculate who might get the most points? Sea Bass won 2 games for me last year by putting up over 20 points so you tell me was he a bad reach last year 1 round early? I don't think so. Who cares if it is the least important or most important? they still put up points, they are still part of my team, and in leagues that give bonus for lengthy fgs and subtract for missed fgs you might actually wanna put some research into it. last year Josh Brown got negative points for missing in a game. how would you feel if your kicker LOST your game for you? Either talk about the topic or go harrass another thread please...

 

[sho nuff]

Yeah...I don't see anyone here saying to take the guy early...but to ignore kickers and not think they are worth discussing at all is a bit ridiculous.

And someone who does not like kickers that much...responding this many times in a topic is hilarious.

Also great that you are not namecalling...then your next line I am one of the biggest dbags on the board.

Glad you noticed.

 

[Zow]

Shayne Graham

:Hawkscreech:

 

[Leroy Hoard]

There is no reason to ever take a kicker before the absolute last round of the draft.

Steven Hauschka should be available then.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Discussing kickers is ridiculous. They aren't impact players, but you guys are still taking the bait.

 

[sgcolin]

Discussing kickers is ridiculous. They aren't impact players, but you guys are still taking the bait.

You know it's not good trolling when you have half the posts in the topic rightAnd I don't get why people get ridiculed for trying to project kickers with the argument "there's no way to project them". It's guessing, just like everyone's done on all the WRs, QBs, RBs, and TEs. Why not just try and guess all the positions instead of 2/3 of them?

 

[karmarooster]

Discussing kickers is ridiculous. They aren't impact players, but you guys are still taking the bait.

You know it's not good trolling when you have half the posts in the topic rightAnd I don't get why people get ridiculed for trying to project kickers with the argument "there's no way to project them". It's guessing, just like everyone's done on all the WRs, QBs, RBs, and TEs. Why not just try and guess all the positions instead of 2/3 of them?

Nice math. QB + RB + WR + TE + Defense = 5. Kicker = 1. Thus, 5/6, without getting into 2 RBs, 3 WRs, etc.First, there is no way to project who will be a top kicker year to year. Second, there is no way to project who will be a top kicker weak to weak.OK. Please name me 3 or 4 Kickers who will be in the top 10 at the position. Any 3 or 4 you want. I will do the same for normal positions. We'll check back week 8 and see how it looks.QB - Rodgers, Brady, Ryan.RB - Foster, Rice, McCoy.WR - Calvin, Julio, Marshall.TE - Graham, Gronk, Gates.Def - 49ers, Bills, Packers.

 

[Run It Up]

Discussing kickers is ridiculous. They aren't impact players, but you guys are still taking the bait.

You know it's not good trolling when you have half the posts in the topic rightAnd I don't get why people get ridiculed for trying to project kickers with the argument "there's no way to project them". It's guessing, just like everyone's done on all the WRs, QBs, RBs, and TEs. Why not just try and guess all the positions instead of 2/3 of them?

Nice math. QB + RB + WR + TE + Defense = 5. Kicker = 1. Thus, 5/6, without getting into 2 RBs, 3 WRs, etc.First, there is no way to project who will be a top kicker year to year. Second, there is no way to project who will be a top kicker weak to weak.OK. Please name me 3 or 4 Kickers who will be in the top 10 at the position. Any 3 or 4 you want. I will do the same for normal positions. We'll check back week 8 and see how it looks.QB - Rodgers, Brady, Ryan.RB - Foster, Rice, McCoy.WR - Calvin, Julio, Marshall.TE - Graham, Gronk, Gates.Def - 49ers, Bills, Packers.

Gostkowski, Bironas, Janikowski, Akers, PraterI guarantee 2 of those will finish in the top 3 and the others will finish top 10 (barring injury)./Serious Kicker Discussion

 

[sgcolin]

Discussing kickers is ridiculous. They aren't impact players, but you guys are still taking the bait.

You know it's not good trolling when you have half the posts in the topic rightAnd I don't get why people get ridiculed for trying to project kickers with the argument "there's no way to project them". It's guessing, just like everyone's done on all the WRs, QBs, RBs, and TEs. Why not just try and guess all the positions instead of 2/3 of them?

Nice math. QB + RB + WR + TE + Defense = 5. Kicker = 1. Thus, 5/6, without getting into 2 RBs, 3 WRs, etc.First, there is no way to project who will be a top kicker year to year. Second, there is no way to project who will be a top kicker weak to weak.OK. Please name me 3 or 4 Kickers who will be in the top 10 at the position. Any 3 or 4 you want. I will do the same for normal positions. We'll check back week 8 and see how it looks.QB - Rodgers, Brady, Ryan.RB - Foster, Rice, McCoy.WR - Calvin, Julio, Marshall.TE - Graham, Gronk, Gates.Def - 49ers, Bills, Packers.

Well I was including DEF in the 2/3, as they are mostly an afterthought as well. And there is no way to project who is a top running back either. You're PROJECTING (guessing) carries, touchdowns, yards per carry...just like for a kicker you would be projecting attempts, accuracy, and extra points. Are kickers more volatile? Yes, but that doesn't mean you can't try to dig deep and find something out about one of them. Andy Reid's offenses often struggle in the red zone, but should get a lot of opportunities due to being a good offense, so I took Henery this year.(also, you really took Ryan instead of Brees?)

 

[karmarooster]

Discussing kickers is ridiculous. They aren't impact players, but you guys are still taking the bait.

You know it's not good trolling when you have half the posts in the topic rightAnd I don't get why people get ridiculed for trying to project kickers with the argument "there's no way to project them". It's guessing, just like everyone's done on all the WRs, QBs, RBs, and TEs. Why not just try and guess all the positions instead of 2/3 of them?

Nice math. QB + RB + WR + TE + Defense = 5. Kicker = 1. Thus, 5/6, without getting into 2 RBs, 3 WRs, etc.First, there is no way to project who will be a top kicker year to year. Second, there is no way to project who will be a top kicker weak to weak.OK. Please name me 3 or 4 Kickers who will be in the top 10 at the position. Any 3 or 4 you want. I will do the same for normal positions. We'll check back week 8 and see how it looks.QB - Rodgers, Brady, Ryan.RB - Foster, Rice, McCoy.WR - Calvin, Julio, Marshall.TE - Graham, Gronk, Gates.Def - 49ers, Bills, Packers.

Gostkowski, Bironas, Janikowski, Akers, PraterI guarantee 2 of those will finish in the top 3 and the others will finish top 10 (barring injury)./Serious Kicker Discussion

Is this barring the injury that Seabass already suffered? Or is that a built in excuse if he's not? Also, I thought merely taking the top 3 at every position by ADP was too boring so I added a few of my own (Ryan, Marshall, Bills).

Well I was including DEF in the 2/3, as they are mostly an afterthought as well. And there is no way to project who is a top running back either. You're PROJECTING (guessing) carries, touchdowns, yards per carry...just like for a kicker you would be projecting attempts, accuracy, and extra points. Are kickers more volatile? Yes, but that doesn't mean you can't try to dig deep and find something out about one of them. Andy Reid's offenses often struggle in the red zone, but should get a lot of opportunities due to being a good offense, so I took Henery this year.(also, you really took Ryan instead of Brees?)

Taking Henery for the reasons you listed is a fine strategy, provided that he's available in the last round.ETA - also, top 4 kickers by ADP according to FFC: Akers (12.08!), Janikowski (12.09!), Gostkowski (12.11!), Crosby (13.09!).

 

[Run It Up]

Discussing kickers is ridiculous. They aren't impact players, but you guys are still taking the bait.

You know it's not good trolling when you have half the posts in the topic rightAnd I don't get why people get ridiculed for trying to project kickers with the argument "there's no way to project them". It's guessing, just like everyone's done on all the WRs, QBs, RBs, and TEs. Why not just try and guess all the positions instead of 2/3 of them?

Nice math. QB + RB + WR + TE + Defense = 5. Kicker = 1. Thus, 5/6, without getting into 2 RBs, 3 WRs, etc.First, there is no way to project who will be a top kicker year to year. Second, there is no way to project who will be a top kicker weak to weak.OK. Please name me 3 or 4 Kickers who will be in the top 10 at the position. Any 3 or 4 you want. I will do the same for normal positions. We'll check back week 8 and see how it looks.QB - Rodgers, Brady, Ryan.RB - Foster, Rice, McCoy.WR - Calvin, Julio, Marshall.TE - Graham, Gronk, Gates.Def - 49ers, Bills, Packers.

Gostkowski, Bironas, Janikowski, Akers, PraterI guarantee 2 of those will finish in the top 3 and the others will finish top 10 (barring injury)./Serious Kicker Discussion

Is this barring the injury that Seabass already suffered? Or is that a built in excuse if he's not? Also, I thought merely taking the top 3 at every position by ADP was too boring so I added a few of my own (Ryan, Marshall, Bills).

Im talking about blown knees... im not worried about a non serious injury on a kicker.

 

[karmarooster]

I'd say a hamstring is a serious injury for a kicker. Kickers typically don't blow out knees, except when celebrating a FG.

 

[Shawn]

Now can we please talk about Steven Hauschka again?

 

[Shawn]

Last time i looked the title of this thread was Steven Hauschka...

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

knock it off and keep the discussion on topic please. TIA.

 

[HurryUpSundays]

Why are you obsessed with starting threads on kickers? What's the point in talking about them?

Yet you click on them and feel the need to contribute garbage?

 

[Shawn]

I would wait untill after week 1 to see if the blocks and misses go away after this last game :S

 

[SoBeDad]

I'm in a 16-team league and longer FGs count more. In this league, if you wait until the last 2 rounds, you're almost guaranteed to get considerably less points than if you pick the first kicker (Akers perhaps) and a middle of the pack backup. A better strategy is try to be the last to pick your first kicker and the first to pick your backup kicker. Hauschka is my backup kicker. There are some kickers/teams that should be avoided based on the fact that the offense may be too low powered or the kicker sucks (TB, STL, K, JCK, Clev, Arz, MIA) but Seattle/Haushka is not one of them.

 

[gbill2004]

So is Hauschka worth a first round pick in re-draft leagues?

 

[Shawn]

So is Hauschka worth a first round pick in re-draft leagues?

I would wait for the third round, that's where he is most valuableor you could risk it and gamble he will be there in round 16

 

[Buffaloes]

this forum really needs to get past the whole shark/guppy thing.

 

[gbill2004]

So is Hauschka worth a first round pick in re-draft leagues?

I would wait for the third round, that's where he is most valuableor you could risk it and gamble he will be there in round 16

Hmmmmm...maybe I'll take a gamble and go for him in the 2nd...I don't wanna risk missing out!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Week 1 @AZ is a good start and also gauge as to what we can expect. I think he is a nice fail safe if you wait to the very last round and almost all other owners have 1-2 already.

 

[Neofight]

FYI if you are looking at Hauschka; may want to wait and see how he looks in AZ.My link

• Steven Hauschka was way short on a 53-yard field-goal attempt in the first quarter. His leg tired noticeably in last week's game at Kansas City, when he kicked three field goals in the first half and kicked off after six Seattle TDs. Hauschka, who was rratic in practice this week, kicked field goals of 25 and 29, but the situation merits watching.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

FYI if you are looking at Hauschka; may want to wait and see how he looks in AZ.My link

• Steven Hauschka was way short on a 53-yard field-goal attempt in the first quarter. His leg tired noticeably in last week's game at Kansas City, when he kicked three field goals in the first half and kicked off after six Seattle TDs. Hauschka, who was rratic in practice this week, kicked field goals of 25 and 29, but the situation merits watching.

Great post, I'll grab another one

 

[Shawn]

Week 1 @AZ is a good start and also gauge as to what we can expect. I think he is a nice fail safe if you wait to the very last round and almost all other owners have 1-2 already.

That's what i am saying he is a good kicker for the owner who likes to not draft a kicker and wait till the end of preseason to pick one up

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Week 1 @AZ is a good start and also gauge as to what we can expect. I think he is a nice fail safe if you wait to the very last round and almost all other owners have 1-2 already.

That's what i am saying he is a good kicker for the owner who likes to not draft a kicker and wait till the end of preseason to pick one up

Neo had a nice snippet and there are a lot of kickers...Cundiff week 1 @NO should be a barn burner.

 

[meatwad1]

Last year Sebastian Janikowski won twice for me

He might have been the one that scored the deciding points, but he isn't the player that won your game. Big difference.

20+ points in 1 game not enough to be the deciding factor? if you dont care about kickers just go harass another thread please

Yes, I remember being beat in that game.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Who needs to reach a round early when Hauschka isnt even rostered in most 10 man leagues. I think the Seahawks are being slept on big time this year. I also think many people underestimate Zach Miller and Sidney Rice. They were a sorry sight last year but this year the Seahawks are looking like a phoenix rising from the ashes with a new QB that looks like the best QB this entire preseason.

I had to re-read this like 10 times to be sure. Thread about a kicker, man love...you know.

 

[biggamer3]

Hauschka could have kicked that 64 yarder. Whadda shame for the Seahawks that he got injured and couldn't play this week.

OMG, that would have been the most insane FG if he had made it. Does he have the leg for 64?