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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I personally stayed away from SJax as well for very similar reasons. There's a way however, to express ones rational without being a complete and utter #####. Let's give this guy an award.
Anyway, I'm not going to be targeting either Quizz or Snelling on WWs. Other than the fact that they'll likely cannibalize each other, I solely play in PPR and I'm extremely low on Quizz. I think he actually has a decent "flex" floor in PPR but he won't be winning you any games. IMO, he's kind of awful.
cstu
Footballguy
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
Joique Bell has value and he's hardly a great talent. PPR can create value out of unexpected guys.
pantherclub
Footballguy
The shark move would to be to straight drop Jackson and let another leaguemate deal with the crap. start or not? Is he healthy or not? Gtd. Why even bother? Let someone else deal with the headache.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Have you watched Bell run at all this year? He leagues better than Quizz could ever hope to be.
Bell can actually break tackles while also being a PPR asset.
cstu
Footballguy
I've been very impressed by his receiving but his running last week wasn't good. He had a 20 yard run but was 7 for 11 yards on his other runs.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I already responded to a post of yours saying that I didnt end up taking SJax in my leagues. I took Dez and CJ2K in my leagues in the 2nd round if youre so interested, and while I dont mind if you continue on your anti-SJax wagon, take my name off your ####ing meaningless posts. You are barely a notch above ppl like Phenix and Skypager.
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Kenny Powers
Footballguy
This post also makes me wonder about your FF thought process. Drop SJax? Yeah, O K
pantherclub
Footballguy
Why wouldnt you drop him? Let someone else deal with the headache. What do you realistically think you are going to get for him going forward?
As for my FF thought process compared to yours I think my initial upside down draft strategy has yet again been proven superior to the RB RB method
unckeyherb
Footballguy
He's played 5 quarters of football and has more points than Rice, Spiller, Richardson, Mathews, Gore, CJ2K, Miller, MJD, Ridley-all guys that were taken before him. He will most likely be back week 4 and is still one of the only 3 down RB's in the league that happens to be on one of the top 4-5 offenses in the NFL.
But you promote dropping him. wow.
pantherclub
Footballguy
yep, straight up drop him. Let someone else deal with this weekly headache. This is just the beginning of him being banged up, will he play or wont he blah blah blah. He wasnt running that well to start with. Its an Otis like shark move to just let another team be driven into nightmares with this guy.
And your example about scoring more points then the guys drafted ahead him just confirms why its stupid to get a RB in the first unless its one of the top dogs
And your example about scoring more points then the guys drafted ahead him just confirms why its stupid to get a RB in the first unless its one of the top dogs
he's going to be out till week 7, after his bye. not sure how anybody doesn't see this.
4th&inches
Footballguy
So, is there any value in the ATL backfield at this point? I think we all knew that the offense in ATL goes through the passing game, but they have to run it at least a little right?
I'm tempted to snag Quizz in PPR leagues and take a flyer on Snelling in non-PPR.
there's definitely worsre options out there
I'm tempted to snag Quizz in PPR leagues and take a flyer on Snelling in non-PPR.
there's definitely worsre options out there
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
VaTerp
Footballguy
IMO Snelling is the play here regardless of format. Rodgers got more snaps than him last week but I think that will change this week. And despite the fewer snaps Snelling was more productive on the ground and out of the backfield.
Rodgers has consistently underwhelmed when given opportunity and Snelling has proven he can be productive in short spurts with both rushing and receiving.
Add in the fact that Snelling will get the goaline work and I think he has some value while S-Jax is out and definitely more value than Quizz, standard or PPR.
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Biabreakable
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Ya don't say?
So when were you predicting his injury to occur? 2nd quarter of week 1?
Surprising how well he has done with these injuries just waiting to happen for so long. Good call.
im not sure why this isnt posted yet, but there was an article from the atlanta paper calling it a hamstring problem... if you watch the replay, you can see he kinda stumbles and I think he must have pulled a hammy there... because immediately after the play he grabs the back of his leg, not the front.
http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/atlanta-falcons/2013/sep/18/injury-report-falcons-wr-roddy-white-lt-sam-baker-/
if it is hammy, and he was declared out on a tuesday... i have a feeling its more 4-6 weeks (reading the tea leaves is all on that)
http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/atlanta-falcons/2013/sep/18/injury-report-falcons-wr-roddy-white-lt-sam-baker-/
if it is hammy, and he was declared out on a tuesday... i have a feeling its more 4-6 weeks (reading the tea leaves is all on that)
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cstu
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Nucker101
Footballguy
Snelling had career YPC of 0.4 more than Jacquizz coming into today. He's still the better 1st and 2nd down back IMO.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I think this one is super easy. When Sjax gets back he remains a very good play. When out, Snelling is the play.
edit....and I mean even BEFORE today. I picked Snelling up where I could. I dont care to ever own Rodgers.
edit....and I mean even BEFORE today. I picked Snelling up where I could. I dont care to ever own Rodgers.
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financewonk
Footballguy
I thought that both looked great, but I was more impressed by Quizz. I don't think that I've seen him run with that kind of vision, burst, elusiveness, etc., since his days as a Beaver. But I would agree that Snelling seems to be the better fantasy play while SJax is out, as he has the short yardage/ goal line gig and they like to use him a lot in the passing game.
pantherclub
Footballguy
It just boggles my mind that there are still people out there that actually think this.
Warrior
Footballguy
Same with Reggie Bush and Roddy White and CJ Spiller, right?
Much easier and more relaxing if you have to do no thinking whatsoever.
shadyridr
Footballguy
pantherclub
Footballguy
I dont recall either of those you mentioned being a perpetually injured 30 year old running back with an asinine number of carries. Top it off with an incredibly suspect offensive line and yeah, cut him and let someone else deal with the headache.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Why? He scored 17 in week 1 and didnt even have a TD. In week 2 he scored 8 points on one drive before exiting.
I didnt say play him over you studs if you have a couple studs at RB.
It boggles my mind that people think he is worthless.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I will be happy to deal with your headache for you.
Well, unless we are talking about an 8 team league where you only have to start 1 RB or something, then yeah, you can drop him.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
We get it man, you think SJax sucks. No one is going to cut him, stop ####ting all over this thread.
I have to admit, Quizz indeed looked pretty good yesterday. He looked good running in between the tackles and in open space. It way by far and far his best NFL performance date (aside from just the stats).
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Perpetually injured? He's missed 2 games since 2009? What are you talking about? Your hyperbole in this thread and the continued suggestion of cutting him are really annoying. Point taken-you think he's worthless. I think you're very much wrong.
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
really? His timetable was 2-4 weeks. A quick look at their schedule last week it was pretty easy to determine hed be out until after the bye. Not sure this is so surprising
what i find odd is this was reported 5 days ago in the atlanta paper, and rotoworld didnt pick up on itreally? His timetable was 2-4 weeks. A quick look at their schedule last week it was pretty easy to determine hed be out until after the bye. Not sure this is so surprising
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
So we all knew when he got hurt it was pretty likely he was gonna miss like 2-3 games. So he is going to miss 3 games, but 4 weeks in a row due to the bye week.
For some reason people make it seem worse because he will miss 4 weeks in a row instead of just 3.........like their guys don't have a bye week or something.
So he is back week 7 and if he does stay healthy he will play the last 7 games of your fantasy regular season, and 9 games out of the 13.
But for some reason is value is 1/10 what it was before week 1? Odd
For some reason people make it seem worse because he will miss 4 weeks in a row instead of just 3.........like their guys don't have a bye week or something.
So he is back week 7 and if he does stay healthy he will play the last 7 games of your fantasy regular season, and 9 games out of the 13.
But for some reason is value is 1/10 what it was before week 1? Odd
pantherclub
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Not really. No bigger than most, in case you havent check games played for pretty much ALL RBs for the past few years.
pantherclub
Footballguy
research games by running backs once they hit 30 and get back to me. You can count on one hand the ones that have had a good season adn Sjax is already behind the 8 ball
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