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research games by running backs once they hit 30 and get back to me. You can count on one hand the ones that have had a good season adn Sjax is already behind the 8 ball
Priest, Barber (2x), Garner, Dillon, Martin, Thomas Jones, Watters, Lamar Smith, Emmitt and Ricky Williams.

That just in the last 15 years.

What I will agree with is that injuries are a killer for older backs. The key to the backs above is that they stayed mostly healthy. None of those guys missed more than a game.

 
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research games by running backs once they hit 30 and get back to me. You can count on one hand the ones that have had a good season adn Sjax is already behind the 8 ball
I would rather just research Sjax. He isn't your typical run of the mill player.

I don't need some great "season" out of him, but if his points per game played ends up in the top 10-15 (which isnt a stretch at all), and as long as he plays 10-11-12 games, I call it a success.

He already had a good week 1, and was well on his way to a great week 2. He isn't a guy I would go cray to get, but he is a guy I have been targetting in my dynasty leagues................with zero success.

 
research games by running backs once they hit 30 and get back to me. You can count on one hand the ones that have had a good season adn Sjax is already behind the 8 ball
Either you have a HUGE hand, or you should do some research before you spout nonsense like this.Last year RB12 was Chris Johnson with 183 FF points (standard FBG scoring)

Using the Historical Data Dominator, there have been 40 RBs age 30+ who have matched or exceeded that number of FF points in a season.

Now the HDD defaults to 1969 as it's start year, so I went back to my first year of FF (1990). In that span, there have been 21 RBs age 30+ who hit 183 FF points in a season.

You want to limit it even farther, since 2000, there have been 16 RBs age 30+ who hit 183 FF points.

Bottom line is that what you think you know to be true, actually isn't.

 
research games by running backs once they hit 30 and get back to me. You can count on one hand the ones that have had a good season adn Sjax is already behind the 8 ball
I would rather just research Sjax. He isn't your typical run of the mill player.

I don't need some great "season" out of him, but if his points per game played ends up in the top 10-15 (which isnt a stretch at all), and as long as he plays 10-11-12 games, I call it a success.

He already had a good week 1, and was well on his way to a great week 2. He isn't a guy I would go cray to get, but he is a guy I have been targetting in my dynasty leagues................with zero success.
While I don't think SJax is "over the hill" or anything, let's not get too excited. He played 1 series in week 2, yeah he happened to score a TD, but he had 3 rushes for 0 yards, and 1 catch for 8. I wouldn't call that "well on his way to a great week 2."
 
research games by running backs once they hit 30 and get back to me. You can count on one hand the ones that have had a good season adn Sjax is already behind the 8 ball
Tiki Barber, Priest Holmes, Curtis Martin, Corey Dillon, Warrick Dunn, Thomas Jones, Fred Taylor, Ricky Williams, LT2, Willis McGahee, Mike Anderson, Marshall Faulk all had very productive seasons at 30+.
Jesus Christ this thread is circling right back around..see above for my post from AUGUST when you were saying the exact same thing. Change the record or just stop posting. I don't know how many times you can say the same thing. Its clear-you think 30 years old=RB death. Got it.

And FWIW there is a difference between getting injured and breaking down. Anyone can get injured. SJax was putting up pretty good points in my league prior to the St. Louis game (and was on pace for a very good day before the thigh issue). He wasn't showing me any signs of breaking down-which was your assertion.

Am I annoyed that he got injured and will miss time? Yep, just like Lacy and Vereen. Am I confident that when he comes back he will be averaging double digit ppg? yep, more so than those other two guys mentioned above.

 
research games by running backs once they hit 30 and get back to me. You can count on one hand the ones that have had a good season adn Sjax is already behind the 8 ball
I would rather just research Sjax. He isn't your typical run of the mill player.

I don't need some great "season" out of him, but if his points per game played ends up in the top 10-15 (which isnt a stretch at all), and as long as he plays 10-11-12 games, I call it a success.

He already had a good week 1, and was well on his way to a great week 2. He isn't a guy I would go cray to get, but he is a guy I have been targetting in my dynasty leagues................with zero success.
While I don't think SJax is "over the hill" or anything, let's not get too excited. He played 1 series in week 2, yeah he happened to score a TD, but he had 3 rushes for 0 yards, and 1 catch for 8. I wouldn't call that "well on his way to a great week 2."
I sure would. The lesser RBs on his team continued that game with good numbers, numbers Sjax was going to get.

PLus, I think 3 carries for zero yards, yet getting a TD catch, shows that even in less than stellar rushing efforts he is still fantasy relevant because he is a good receiving back.

Unless my team is littered with top end players, I want the guy in my lineup when he is playing.

 
research games by running backs once they hit 30 and get back to me. You can count on one hand the ones that have had a good season adn Sjax is already behind the 8 ball
I would rather just research Sjax. He isn't your typical run of the mill player.

I don't need some great "season" out of him, but if his points per game played ends up in the top 10-15 (which isnt a stretch at all), and as long as he plays 10-11-12 games, I call it a success.

He already had a good week 1, and was well on his way to a great week 2. He isn't a guy I would go cray to get, but he is a guy I have been targetting in my dynasty leagues................with zero success.
While I don't think SJax is "over the hill" or anything, let's not get too excited. He played 1 series in week 2, yeah he happened to score a TD, but he had 3 rushes for 0 yards, and 1 catch for 8. I wouldn't call that "well on his way to a great week 2."
I sure would. The lesser RBs on his team continued that game with good numbers, numbers Sjax was going to get.

PLus, I think 3 carries for zero yards, yet getting a TD catch, shows that even in less than stellar rushing efforts he is still fantasy relevant because he is a good receiving back.

Unless my team is littered with top end players, I want the guy in my lineup when he is playing.
I understand what you are getting at, but saying he was "on his way to a great day" against StL is just not accurate. Even based on what the Atl RBs did after he left, he wouldn't have had a "great day." In that game, the ATL RBs combined for 16 carries, 36 yards, 10 rec, 92 yards, 1 TD. It's not reasonable to give Jackson all of that production, as some came from Rodgers and the FB Ewing, who would have had a few carries/catches anyway. Is 80 total yards and 1 TD a "great day?"ETA-"Fantasy relevant" DOES NOT equal "great day"

 
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I was quite surprised to see Jackson dropped on to my WW yesterday. There might be question marks around him, and I have very good quartet of RBs, but I'm pretty sure Ill go and grab him.

Hopefully, Atlanta will be fighting for a playoff spot near the end of the season and a fit Jackson could be very useful if he comes back and does well.

 
I was quite surprised to see Jackson dropped on to my WW yesterday. There might be question marks around him, and I have very good quartet of RBs, but I'm pretty sure Ill go and grab him.

Hopefully, Atlanta will be fighting for a playoff spot near the end of the season and a fit Jackson could be very useful if he comes back and does well.
Id go get him. They are a high powered offense and brought him in to be an every down/goaline back which is rare these days. He got 11 out of the13 RB carries week 1, and 5 rec on 8 targets week 1. Ill take a feature RB that catches ball and will likely get all the goaline work when healthy any day. These weeks off should have him fresher later in the year

 
I was quite surprised to see Jackson dropped on to my WW yesterday. There might be question marks around him, and I have very good quartet of RBs, but I'm pretty sure Ill go and grab him.

Hopefully, Atlanta will be fighting for a playoff spot near the end of the season and a fit Jackson could be very useful if he comes back and does well.
Id go get him. They are a high powered offense and brought him in to be an every down/goaline back which is rare these days. He got 11 out of the13 RB carries week 1, and 5 rec on 8 targets week 1. Ill take a feature RB that catches ball and will likely get all the goaline work when healthy any day. These weeks off should have him fresher later in the year
Exactly what I was thinking. I am in the enviable position of having Martin, Forte, Bernard, Murray and Powell ( brought in as potential cover for bye week hell in week 5 ). Plan is to wait until week 5 is over and go and get him. It's risky, because someone could take him, but I'm dead last in the WW order this week.

 
Any Falcon Homers hearing any news about SJax playing this week? Watching the game Sunday night they showed him on the sidelines and Al Michales said he really wanted to play but doctors wanted him to wait one more week,that would be this week. Any news? Rumors? Innuendos?

 
Any Falcon Homers hearing any news about SJax playing this week? Watching the game Sunday night they showed him on the sidelines and Al Michales said he really wanted to play but doctors wanted him to wait one more week,that would be this week. Any news? Rumors? Innuendos?
dont know why he would come back this week when they have a cakewalk matchup and a bye next week

 
Any Falcon Homers hearing any news about SJax playing this week? Watching the game Sunday night they showed him on the sidelines and Al Michales said he really wanted to play but doctors wanted him to wait one more week,that would be this week. Any news? Rumors? Innuendos?
dont know why he would come back this week when they have a cakewalk matchup and a bye next week
Um,not to be a wise guy,but watching them play the last few weeks,I don't think any team except Jacksonville is a "cakewalk" for The Birds right now.

 
Any Falcon Homers hearing any news about SJax playing this week? Watching the game Sunday night they showed him on the sidelines and Al Michales said he really wanted to play but doctors wanted him to wait one more week,that would be this week. Any news? Rumors? Innuendos?
dont know why he would come back this week when they have a cakewalk matchup and a bye next week
theyre 1-3. but to answer the original question, he is still waiting for medical clearance and did not practice today. I know this isnt an official practice day.

 
Any Falcon Homers hearing any news about SJax playing this week? Watching the game Sunday night they showed him on the sidelines and Al Michales said he really wanted to play but doctors wanted him to wait one more week,that would be this week. Any news? Rumors? Innuendos?
dont know why he would come back this week when they have a cakewalk matchup and a bye next week
Um,not to be a wise guy,but watching them play the last few weeks,I don't think any team except Jacksonville is a "cakewalk" for The Birds right now.
not to be wsie guy but the combined records of the teams ATL lost to is 11 - 1

 
I think the silver lining in all this is that being held out the entire season should keep him from getting injured -- he should be ready for your fantasy playoffs

 
Rotoworld:

Falcons coach Mike Smith was evasive Monday when asked whether Steven Jackson (hamstring) will resume practicing this week.
S-Jax is uncertain to practice let alone play, which suggests he's unlikely to return against the Bucs on Sunday. Look for another split backfield of Jacquizz Rodgers and Jason Snelling, with Quizz as the superior fantasy option. S-Jax's fantasy owners should continue to hold onto him, but have little in the way of expectations. He's got a ton of wear on his 30-year-old tires, and is coming off a significant muscle tear or strain.

Source: Vaughn McClure on Twitter
 
Waste of a pick. Never drafting an old man again
the writing was on the wall. There were a ton of folks on here saying he would lead the league in touchdowns On the whole 30 years old is the magic number for running backs to stay away from. Especially with the wear and tear on guys like Jackson.
 
Waste of a pick. Never drafting an old man again
the writing was on the wall. There were a ton of folks on here saying he would lead the league in touchdowns On the whole 30 years old is the magic number for running backs to stay away from. Especially with the wear and tear on guys like Jackson.
whoopdie ####### doo. YOU WERE RIGHT! Can we move on instead of suckin ypur own **** the whole thread?
 
Waste of a pick. Never drafting an old man again
the writing was on the wall. There were a ton of folks on here saying he would lead the league in touchdowns On the whole 30 years old is the magic number for running backs to stay away from. Especially with the wear and tear on guys like Jackson.
whoopdie ####### doo. YOU WERE RIGHT! Can we move on instead of suckin ypur own **** the whole thread?
You mad bro?
 
Waste of a pick. Never drafting an old man again
the writing was on the wall. There were a ton of folks on here saying he would lead the league in touchdowns On the whole 30 years old is the magic number for running backs to stay away from. Especially with the wear and tear on guys like Jackson.
There's no "magic number" - and if some think so, then good for them because it irrationally limits those owners choices.That said, SJax hadly came into the season an unknown. Hard competitor, good producer on terrible teams and injury prone.

His ceiling on what was expected to be a top 5, possible top 3 offense was huge. It didn't work out.

Risk vs. reward. And the reward was there, but won out this time. If SJax waits until say week 5 or 6 to get hurt, we could be talking about how 5-1 teams are going to replace him.

There's no crystal ball here and no magic numbers. There is calculated risk and reward. At least SJax had he ceiling... A lot less proven players in far more questionable roles have been drafted as high, or higher.

 
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Per Rotoworld, Steven Jackson not practicing again. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1663/steven-jackson


Steven Jackson (hamstring) and Roddy White (hamstring, ankle) are both not practicing Tuesday.
Coming out of their bye, the Falcons are getting an early-week workout in. And considering it's now been 4 1/2 weeks since Jackson sustained his pull, it's scary that he's not able to participate. It's yet another reminder that 30-year-old running backs don't recover from muscle strains like they used to. Expect another week of Jacquizz Rodgers starting and Jason Snelling mixing in. White's potential absence would lock Harry Douglas in as Matt Ryan's top wideout
While I have been banging the drum for his return, this news has me decidedly down. Close to 5 weeks of recovery time including the bye week and he still can't practice. Disconcerting to be sure.

 
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Bobbyn2022 said:
Will Jackson be a factor when he comes back? Will he be a RB2?
IF he is healthy when he comes back, he's an RB2 with RB1 upside. Assuming he plays more than a half before getting re-injured.

 
Bobbyn2022 said:
Will Jackson be a factor when he comes back? Will he be a RB2?
Fingers crossed, but honestly i doubt it. I was holding on to hope that he'd be a big help when he got back, but with the current WR situation i have no faith.

The whole reason he was supposed to be a good pick this year is that the offense will get him to the goal line and he'll get to punch a lot of them in. Doesn't look like the current Atlanta offense is going to be marching down the field exactly, and between the 20s defenses have much much less to worry about in the air so they can focus more on stopping the run, therefore he'll probably not excel in yardage either. overall i think he most likely ends up RB3. Hope i'm wrong.

 
Bobbyn2022 said:
Will Jackson be a factor when he comes back? Will he be a RB2?
Fingers crossed, but honestly i doubt it. I was holding on to hope that he'd be a big help when he got back, but with the current WR situation i have no faith.

The whole reason he was supposed to be a good pick this year is that the offense will get him to the goal line and he'll get to punch a lot of them in. Doesn't look like the current Atlanta offense is going to be marching down the field exactly, and between the 20s defenses have much much less to worry about in the air so they can focus more on stopping the run, therefore he'll probably not excel in yardage either. overall i think he most likely ends up RB3. Hope i'm wrong.
before julio and gonzo the falcons still gave turner tons of goal line chances
 
I hope that ends up being a useful stat, but what i've seen of the Falcons offense this year has been very frustrating, and i don't see how losing Julio is going to do anything but make it worse.

 
Rotoworld:

Steven Jackson (hamstring) did not practice Wednesday.
As expected. The Journal-Constitution reported Tuesday evening that Jackson's chances of playing this week were "not good." Jason Snelling (concussion) returned to a full practice. He and Jacquizz Rodgers will carry the load. Jackson's 30-year-old body is clearly breaking down, slowing his recovery time.

Source: Vaughn McClure on Twitter
 
Rotoworld:

Speaking Thursday, Falcons coach Mike Smith said Steven Jackson's hamstring injury has "lingered."
You don't say. Smith also hinted S-Jax isn't close to a return, saying "when the doctors clear (him), he will return to practice." It's deeply discouraging that Jackson remains without a return date coming off the Falcons' bye week. You shouldn't count on seeing Jackson before November.

Source: D. Orlando Ledbetter on Twitter
 
at what point do we consider dropping this guy? he's getting harder and harder to carry.
I can't do it. I kept him from last year and my roster is large enough that the possibility (however minor) for a late-season/FF playoffs healthy return is just too alluring. I am making ends meet with some good trades/WW moves so I am okay with him getting a big chunk of rest, if it means he's coming back FULLY healthy and will be facing battle-weary defenses on fresh legs. Could pay dividends in the important weeks to owners that are diligent enough to hang through the tough times.

in reality though, that's probably not going to happen. :kicksrock:

 
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at what point do we consider dropping this guy? he's getting harder and harder to carry.
I've already dropped him in the one league I have him. It's a 12 team, 2rb, 3wr, 1te PPR league with no flex. I can only start two rbs and I have Charles, Gio and Sproles. I'm sitting in first at 5-1. I have to start 3wrs and I traded Edelman for Cobb last week. So I dropped Sjax and Amendola (this is another player that I realize just won't do #### for me, depsite having loved him since his rookie year) to add a little depth at my now weak wr position with Douglas and Boykin for the immediate future, and to have room to stash Cobb and Harvin for later. My WRs that I can start now are Dez, Decker, Douglas/Boykin.

I felt I had no choice, and frankly, don't need him and am happy to start Charles and Gio/Sproles. It help that this is my work league, and I play with ruhtards, so I figure I can pick him back up later if I change my mind. (For example, I picked up Tony Gozales off waivers this week. I was 9th on the waiver order).

 
Rotoworld:

Steven Jackson (hamstring) has been ruled out for Week 7 against the Bucs.
Expect to see a lot of Jacquizz Rodgers, and to a lesser extent "big back" change-up runner Jason Snelling. It's quite concerning that Jackson still can't practice well over a month removed from his hamstring strain, and coming off of an open date. He's just an injured "stash" RB5 on fantasy rosters for now.

Source: Jay Glazer on Twitter
 
Rotoworld:

According to FOX's Jay Glazer, Steven Jackson (hamstring) had a setback this week.
Older players often struggle to recover from soft-tissue injuries and hamstring pulls are especially tricky. Jackson's timetable is completely unknown right now as we don't know the severity of this setback. All we know is that he hasn't even practiced since originally sustaining the injury in Week 2. Jacquizz Rodgers and Jason Snelling will continue to operate in a 60/40 timeshare indefinitely.

Related: Jason Snelling, Jacquizz Rodgers
 
So according to multiple sources, he was supposed to practice today...I couldn't find any confirmation that he actually did though..

Regardless, I've gotta believe that they are dying to get an actual RB in the backfield ASAP. Has anyone heard anything locally? If he does suit up (and assuming that he is actually healthy), what do people think his outlook is this week against a tough Arizona def and then moving forward ROS?

 
Steven Jackson plans to play Sunday by Larry Hartstein | CBSSports.com

(1:17 pm ET) Falcons running back Steven Jackson, who's been out since Week 2 with a hamstring injury, plans to play Sunday at Arizona, reports the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Jackson practiced Wednesday and said he feels good enough to be effective. Steven Jackson expected to practice Wednesday by Michael Hurcomb | CBSSports.com

(10/21/13) Falcons coach Mike Smith said Monday he anticipates running back Steven Jackson, who has missed the last four games with a hamstring injury, practicing Wednesday. Though, Smith didn't commit yet to Jackson returning Week 8 at Arizona.

"This is all based on what the doctor will say in terms of how much he’ll participate in practice as we go through the week, but when we left out of here on Friday, everything was very good in terms of (Jackson’s) testing and the opportunity to return to play," Smith said during his Monday press conference. "We are anticipating to get him in and see how he handles it. You’ve got to go in and take it one day at a time when you’re coming back from an injury."

 
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