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Not that long ago it was a $5 stock nearing bankruptcy.
Seriously. Them hiring a new CEO isn't going to change the fact that retail has been dying for years and covid only accelerated that. Then add tons of people buying digital games and why do they even exist now? They're a freaking used video game store chain that's worth $5b. That's like a Tesla style valuation lol. 

 
I have started accumulating GSAH. GS Acquisition Holdings Corp II (NYSE: GSAH) is a special purpose acquisition company formed for the purpose of effecting a merger, stock purchase or similar business combination with one or more businesses. The company is sponsored by an affiliate of The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. and will be managed by the Permanent Capital Strategies (PCS) team within Goldman Sachs Asset Management (GSAM). GSAH II will employ Goldman Sachs’ full range of resources to pursue opportunities across a variety of industries.

I don't know anyone I would be more comfortable with, finding the right acquisition with my money. 

Its currently around 13, after bouncing around $10-11 since its inception in late July.

 
Boy, Appian is tanking!
It’s up 5% today and it’s up on where it started on Friday. Just a pop end of Friday into Monday morning. Was actually about to sell during that and then the market popped a little. Still within a few percent of its high outside of 30 minutes, so not sure I'd call that tanking.

I think I may put in a sell order if it continues. I’m going to have a large tax bill coming up in April.

ETA: Half sold at $200 limit order with another limit order for rest at $205.

 
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Sold some AITX and CCIV and all my bldp 

Purchased NOK
I like NOK for a few different reasons outside of the WSB meme potential rise, but I'm struggling to see the potential for much movement with 5.6B outstanding shares.

 
Ok, cash position looking decent now in my taxable account. Thank you APPN, fun ride from $44.96 to $200-205. May get back with you on the flip side.

 
It’s up 5% today and it’s up on where it started on Friday. Just a pop end of Friday into Monday morning. Was actually about to sell during that and then the market popped a little. Still within a few percent of its high outside of 30 minutes, so not sure I'd call that tanking.

I think I may put in a sell order if it continues. I’m going to have a large tax bill coming up in April.

ETA: Half sold at $200 limit order with another limit order for rest at $205.
This is why I haven't sold a damn thing, being a new investor, I'm hesitant because of the tax implications. 

 
I purchased AMC when news of the vaccine came out, but then it dropped about 50%.   Its finally turned a 15% profit for me.  Time to get out right??? 

 
I purchased AMC when news of the vaccine came out, but then it dropped about 50%.   Its finally turned a 15% profit for me.  Time to get out right??? 
You'd have to think even better is to come, no?  You just feeling happy that you didn't lose money, so I get that. 

 
Seriously. Them hiring a new CEO isn't going to change the fact that retail has been dying for years and covid only accelerated that. Then add tons of people buying digital games and why do they even exist now? They're a freaking used video game store chain that's worth $5b. That's like a Tesla style valuation lol. 
I mean GME's fundamentals are completely irrelevant if you're participating right now.  It's a trading vehicle with a relatively strong trading case, both for potentially making (or losing) a lot of money and also for sticking it to the man that's been sticking it to retail investors for 100 years.

I bought a few just to take part.  Enough that I'd be fine if they went to zero.  This clown getting played on the other end of it was already convicted of huge amounts of fraud years ago and of course, got a slap on the wrist.  Now he's crying to mommy that he's getting played by retail investors the same way retail investors get played by him a dozen times a week and instead of eating his loss on his garbage trade he's running to mommy for a loan and crying about how unfair it all is.

 
This is why I haven't sold a damn thing, being a new investor, I'm hesitant because of the tax implications. 
Yeah, outside of CYDY, which was a good timed sell (reinvestments up way more than short term taxes), I was smart about waiting for long term capital gains. Even so, ZM did very well for me as well (sold at $570), so I’m going to get hit even with long term taxes. I have been better about putting most of my short term stuff in my IRA so taxes don’t matter. Between AMZN, MDB and OKTA, I’ve got plenty more to sell, if needed, that’s all long term. That makes it easy now to stay invested but also be able to free up taxable cash quickly without getting hammered by short term taxes. Short term sucks since my wife and I both work and every penny of short term gains gets taxed at whatever your highest bracket is on top of your wages.

 
I mean GME's fundamentals are completely irrelevant if you're participating right now.  It's a trading vehicle with a relatively strong trading case, both for potentially making (or losing) a lot of money and also for sticking it to the man that's been sticking it to retail investors for 100 years.

I bought a few just to take part.  Enough that I'd be fine if they went to zero.  This clown getting played on the other end of it was already convicted of huge amounts of fraud years ago and of course, got a slap on the wrist.  Now he's crying to mommy that he's getting played by retail investors the same way retail investors get played by him a dozen times a week and instead of eating his loss on his garbage trade he's running to mommy for a loan and crying about how unfair it all is.
No I completely agree that what’s going on now is not fundamental but if you check out the various threads on Reddit there are people that think the new CEO is going to turn the company around and this is a long term hold. 

 
I'm still a relative noob at options. M stock is currently $14.59. Does the below call seem like a good value? I am the bid for 2 at 4.85. Not sure if I should just bump it up to 5.15 and pay the extra $30. If M doesn't go bankrupt/out of business, should be a win?

M Jan 20 2023 15 Call, 724 Days to Expiration

Bid 4.85

Ask 5.15

2X392Volume
11Open Interest
945Implied volatility
63.92Time value
4.80

 
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At some point (if not already) buying GME puts is going to be a good idea.  Its inevitably going to crash but timing a good entry point is the hard part.  There could still be a decent run up before it tanks.

 
13 year old son added some more stable stuff today to balance his risky penny stocks. Added Ford and Coca-Cola. 
I'd say.  Pinks vs Coke is like two total opposite ends.  One could be a total firecracker in the sack, the other is an old granny but gets the job done.  

You're all welcome for that visual.  :thumbup:

 
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I mean GME's fundamentals are completely irrelevant if you're participating right now.  It's a trading vehicle with a relatively strong trading case, both for potentially making (or losing) a lot of money and also for sticking it to the man that's been sticking it to retail investors for 100 years.

I bought a few just to take part.  Enough that I'd be fine if they went to zero.  This clown getting played on the other end of it was already convicted of huge amounts of fraud years ago and of course, got a slap on the wrist.  Now he's crying to mommy that he's getting played by retail investors the same way retail investors get played by him a dozen times a week and instead of eating his loss on his garbage trade he's running to mommy for a loan and crying about how unfair it all is.
My neighbor runs his own boutique investment business after years at Goldman. He's convinced that WSB, Robinhooders and meme traders are just being used by deep pocket guys. Makes some sense. I'm sure Robinhood traders and WSB message board people "believe" they have this amazing power over the market. My neighbor doubts the true leverage of these investors and their ability to move markets like they think they are. They are portrayed as angry, WFH millennials with stimulus checks out to stick it to the man, and he says there is no way they alone are moving the markets. That the "man" is behind most of the money and are just an unwitting front. Thought that was interesting, and as always, the little guy will get crushed.

 
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My neighbor runs his own boutique investment business after years at Goldman. He's convinced that WSB, Robinhooders and meme traders are just being used by deep pocket guys. Makes some sense. I'm sure Robinhood traders and WSB message board people "believe" they have this amazing power over the market. My neighbor doubts the true leverage of these investors and their ability to move markets like they think they are. They are portrayed as angry, WFH millennials with stimulus checks out to stick it to the man, and he says there is no way they alone are moving the markets. That the "man" is behind most of the money and are just and unwitting front. Thought that was interesting, and as always, the little guy will get crushed.
Good thread here.

https://twitter.com/toxic/status/1353890766800621569?s=20

 
I'm still a relative noob at options. M stock is currently $14.59. Does the below call seem like a good value? I am the bid for 2 at 4.85. Not sure if I should just bump it up to 5.15 and pay the extra $30. If M doesn't go bankrupt/out of business, should be a win?

M Jan 20 2023 15 Call, 724 Days to Expiration

Bid 4.85

Ask 5.15

2X392Volume
11Open Interest
945Implied volatility
63.92Time value
4.80
Macy's has to be at 20.15 in two years for you to break even. You're also tying your cash up for two years if you hold to expiration. Macy's was getting beat up pre-Covid. I am not a believer in Macy's and wouldn't want to hold these, but you likely could make money if you picked the correct exit point.

 
I have started accumulating GSAH. GS Acquisition Holdings Corp II (NYSE: GSAH) is a special purpose acquisition company formed for the purpose of effecting a merger, stock purchase or similar business combination with one or more businesses. The company is sponsored by an affiliate of The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. and will be managed by the Permanent Capital Strategies (PCS) team within Goldman Sachs Asset Management (GSAM). GSAH II will employ Goldman Sachs’ full range of resources to pursue opportunities across a variety of industries.

I don't know anyone I would be more comfortable with, finding the right acquisition with my money. 

Its currently around 13, after bouncing around $10-11 since its inception in late July.
Rumor is they will buy eToro. @hooter311, any thoughts on that? They provide Financial services, Investing online, Social investment, Bitcoin exchange

 
That’s pretty savage, Trading Places type savage. Front run and make all kinds of money on the GME short squeeze and then turning that capital gained around to buy into a distressed hedge fund that needed capital due to the short squeeze. Savage and while the RH guys made some coin, those Citadel folks turned it into billions.
Seems unlikely to me.

Why would they even need the RH folks for it?  If that was their goal they could just buy up the remaining float themselves and do the same thing, no need to front-run RHers.

Also aren't Citadel 72 and Melvin owners long time friends? 

And of course hedge funds don't really go after each other like this, right?  Doesn't Citadel 72 have to disclose what they buy?  So if it came out they were the ones buying all the GME it seems like they'd immediately be the target of all the other hedge funds.

 
Rumor is they will buy eToro. @hooter311, any thoughts on that? They provide Financial services, Investing online, Social investment, Bitcoin exchange
That would be nice but those rumors come and go. Been sitting on PSTH and GSAH for a while back when you could get in at a few percent over the IPO price.

 
Seems unlikely to me.

Why would they even need the RH folks for it?  If that was their goal they could just buy up the remaining float themselves and do the same thing, no need to front-run RHers.

Also aren't Citadel 72 and Melvin owners long time friends? 

And of course hedge funds don't really go after each other like this, right?  Doesn't Citadel 72 have to disclose what they buy?  So if it came out they were the ones buying all the GME it seems like they'd immediately be the target of all the other hedge funds.
I’m just enjoying the imagery of the Duke brothers.

 

I'm still a relative noob at options. M stock is currently $14.59. Does the below call seem like a good value? I am the bid for 2 at 4.85. Not sure if I should just bump it up to 5.15 and pay the extra $30. If M doesn't go bankrupt/out of business, should be a win?

M Jan 20 2023 15 Call, 724 Days to Expiration

Bid 4.85

Ask 5.15

2X392Volume
11Open Interest
945Implied volatility
63.92Time value
4.80



Macy's has to be at 20.15 in two years for you to break even. You're also tying your cash up for two years if you hold to expiration. Macy's was getting beat up pre-Covid. I am not a believer in Macy's and wouldn't want to hold these, but you likely could make money if you picked the correct exit point.
My 4.85 bid executed while I was at lunch. Go, Macy's! Will probably look to sell the call as opposed to hold and exercise. i appreciate the input. I have a feeling M could be the next EXPR or GME so trying to get some exposure...

 
Whelp, I added more BLDP at the highs here.  Hopefully not a bad move.  It seems to be moving with PLUG/FCEL and those two are probably about to blow shorts out.

 
Whelp, I added more BLDP at the highs here.  Hopefully not a bad move.  It seems to be moving with PLUG/FCEL and those two are probably about to blow shorts out.
As you typed that I sold half of mine +75%. I have not timed profit-taking very well though. 

 
$NNOX up 20% today for some reason. If I wasn’t free-rolling already, I’d have to sell some - my allotment is up 175% and they don’t even have FDA approval or sales yet.

 

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