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Arid Filch
Footballguy
Yes, I could see it sinking into the mid300s but I don't think it will take more than a month for it to come back. At least that is what I hope because I took the plunge at 418.97.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Big beat on iphone sales. Probably gives some comfort that they are defending against Samsung inroads.
Arid Filch
Footballguy
If yahoo's AH numbers are to be trusted aapl is up 3.5% at 434. I am going to set a stop at 428 but try to hold until 450.
Borden
Footballguy
I don't know a damn thing about stocks but I was on another forum today and one fellow was all excited about a stock called IPCI Like I said I don't know anything about this stuff nor am I trying to pitch it but when I saw this thread in the FFA I figured I would share. Best of luck fellas.
Arid Filch
Footballguy
I can't blame him for being excited, it went up 50% today on volume 35X higher than normal. I dream of days like that. And it is up 100% since 10 days ago when they announced positive Phase 1 results for an administration system and drug similar to Oxycontin but more difficult to abuse. The thing I find interesting is that it didn't start climbing until two days after the report when some dude at seeking alpha highlighted the company and the 8 drugs it has in the pipeline.
Arid Filch
Footballguy
I'm looking at West Marine and Garmin. I should probably split my money between the two, you know diversify, but I want to have my cake and eat it too. Since West Marine reports earnings on the 25th, I can go all-in tomorrow, ride the pop and then sell and buy into Garmin before it reports on the 31st. What do you guys think? Do you have any thoughts on either company, Mystery?
Arid Filch
Footballguy
Well I decided to split my investment. Put half on GRMN at 37.47, no problem since its going down. But WMAR took off at the opening and it's not a heavily traded stock. I put my bid at the market value but still it would not execute. Now it's up 2% and sailing away while I can only watch from the dock.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
You seem to have pretty good luck, Fitch, but it is risky to buy immediately before earnings hoping for a bump. I have sold puts right before earnings, which at least gives some downside protection. Used to do pretty well that way with GOOG, but stock price has gone up too much.
A consumer stock that I really like that just reported is TUP. It is a play on emerging markets consumer, buffered by a 3% dividend. But. like AFCE that I mentioned a week or two ago, these are long-term growth stories, not quick trade ideas.
A consumer stock that I really like that just reported is TUP. It is a play on emerging markets consumer, buffered by a 3% dividend. But. like AFCE that I mentioned a week or two ago, these are long-term growth stories, not quick trade ideas.
Arid Filch
Footballguy
I try to gamble only on companies that I'm comfortable investing in. I've looked at GRMN and WMAR balance sheets and they look good to me. So even though I just want to turn a quick buck, if GRMN tanks to 33 then I've become an investor and I will hold until it is positive.
Arid Filch
Footballguy
Up another 20% at the open but it's sort of cooling off now.
How much money is needed to really move a dollar stock? 1 million? If it's 1.50 a share with average volume of 30,000 you could buy 100K worth first day and it would make an impression, then 200K, then 500K. And pump it at some websites to get a buzz going. Then slowly exit your position so as not to disrupt the price too much. Does this actually work?
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
Anyone thinking about taking a bite at coal (BTU, ANR, ACI)? Good beat yesterday, but downgrades have washed out all the gains. Sounds like wall street is clearing the deck and scooping these names up cheap.
culdeus
Footballguy
If you push a million bucks to a stock with a volume of 30k odds are you won't get even 100k executed before you wash out.
Borden
Footballguy
Yeah I don't know. The guy that posted it wasn't just some new guy spamming so I thought in have a chance to be legit. Like I said the stock market isn't my thing so he could've been doing that, I don't know, but I thought I'd share just because I happened to see this thread an hour later. I'll let you big dogs sort it out but any of you hit big with it then you owe me a beer.
Arid Filch
Footballguy
I don't think he was spamming. I imagine some one told him and he got in as it was going up so he was just passing on the word. It still had huge volume today but it ended up down 6%. It may have another rise in it, like AFFY in may but I don't have the balls for those kind of rollercoasters.
Arid Filch
Footballguy
I meant 100K the first day, 200 next day and 500 the next. And it wouldn't be one order. It would be broken up in smaller orders placed throughout the day. What does washed out mean?
I don't know exactly how it works but I think this is a common practice. I had a similar idea that is less illegal. Buy the bulk of a deceased artist's paintings. They have to be decent and you have to accumulate it discreetly with no paper trail. Then sell a few through an auction house and have a buyer purchase them for a large sum. Continue this trend until outsiders start paying the large sum.
Redwes25
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
I just mean your trade won't execute. You may not find a seller. Penny stocks aren't typically held by institutions with robots that will trade with you to balance an index or a prospectus.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Gambling/playing with fire with the AMZN earnings tomorrow. I'm encouraged that almost every article I've read today expects them to meet estimates. Still short and getting crushed. We'll see soon enough.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Why do I have a feeling they are going to kill earnings? SifSt. Louis Bob said:
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
I'm itching to play this today as well. Why are you betting against them SLB?Why do I have a feeling they are going to kill earnings? SifSt. Louis Bob said:
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Apple buys and is in the process of retiring 36M shares 
Obviously we knew the buy back was happening/going to happen, but I didn't think it was happening at this rate. As an investor, i love seeing that cash put to work and shares retired, but what happens when that demand (from Apple itself) goes away?
Obviously we knew the buy back was happening/going to happen, but I didn't think it was happening at this rate. As an investor, i love seeing that cash put to work and shares retired, but what happens when that demand (from Apple itself) goes away?
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
It has been on a vertical climb and I just think that even though it is a fine company, it is overvalued. Don't do anything on my reccomendation on this.I'm itching to play this today as well. Why are you betting against them SLB?Why do I have a feeling they are going to kill earnings? SifSt. Louis Bob said:
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
I'm all in short, on this information alone.It has been on a vertical climb and I just think that even though it is a fine company, it is overvalued. Don't do anything on my reccomendation on this.I'm itching to play this today as well. Why are you betting against them SLB?Why do I have a feeling they are going to kill earnings? SifSt. Louis Bob said:
I think it is better to view this as reducing supply than propping up demand.Apple buys and is in the process of retiring 36M shares
Obviously we knew the buy back was happening/going to happen, but I didn't think it was happening at this rate. As an investor, i love seeing that cash put to work and shares retired, but what happens when that demand (from Apple itself) goes away?
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
I'm all in short, on this information alone.It has been on a vertical climb and I just think that even though it is a fine company, it is overvalued. Don't do anything on my reccomendation on this.I'm itching to play this today as well. Why are you betting against them SLB?Why do I have a feeling they are going to kill earnings? SifSt. Louis Bob said:
culdeus
Footballguy
Are they using cash to retire this or those overseas bonds?I think it is better to view this as reducing supply than propping up demand.Apple buys and is in the process of retiring 36M shares
Obviously we knew the buy back was happening/going to happen, but I didn't think it was happening at this rate. As an investor, i love seeing that cash put to work and shares retired, but what happens when that demand (from Apple itself) goes away?
IIRC, they are issuing bonds here to retire the stocks and avoiding repatriation of the cash.Are they using cash to retire this or those overseas bonds?I think it is better to view this as reducing supply than propping up demand.Apple buys and is in the process of retiring 36M shares
Obviously we knew the buy back was happening/going to happen, but I didn't think it was happening at this rate. As an investor, i love seeing that cash put to work and shares retired, but what happens when that demand (from Apple itself) goes away?
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Down slightly pre-conference call on a two cent loss.St. Louis Bob said:
SBUX up nicely on two cent beat.
ZNGA down on announcement with earnings that they will not seek US gambling license. Move into this area was main reason I picked for stock contest.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
So mother####ing lame. Concensus was a profit of .06 a share, revise down from .45 a share. Then they blow it, again, and nothing. But hey we're selling all kinds of stuff!!! Dickmittens.Down slightly pre-conference call on a two cent loss.St. Louis Bob said:
SBUX up nicely on two cent beat.
ZNGA down on announcement with earnings that they will not seek US gambling license. Move into this area was main reason I picked for stock contest.
ETA
Next to nothing.
Sorry GB Drifter, nothing personal.
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St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Any other company would get crushed.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Like GOOG & NFLX, you know companies that actually make money. I seriously don't get it. This isn't some hot new start up, they've been in business for almost 20 years. ######ingandwhininglikealittlegirlAny other company would get crushed.
I have a stop at $312 and will lose about 4 grand if it trips.
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Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
You got Gunz'd. It happens.Like GOOG & NFLX, you know companies that actually make money. I seriously don't get it. This isn't some hot new start up, they've been in business for almost 20 years. ######ingandwhininglikealittlegirlAny other company would get crushed.
I have a stop at $312 and will lose about 4 grand if it trips.
optionmaven
Footballguy
Feeling for you SLB. It should be at 270 today, not 300+.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
And tripped, down 4k. LAMEYou got Gunz'd. It happens.Like GOOG & NFLX, you know companies that actually make money. I seriously don't get it. This isn't some hot new start up, they've been in business for almost 20 years. ######ingandwhininglikealittlegirlAny other company would get crushed.
I have a stop at $312 and will lose about 4 grand if it trips.
Thanks man.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
I'm still clinging to my AAPL life preserver. If the rebound doesn't come, I may need to talk to a divorce attorney.You got Gunz'd. It happens.Like GOOG & NFLX, you know companies that actually make money. I seriously don't get it. This isn't some hot new start up, they've been in business for almost 20 years. ######ingandwhininglikealittlegirlAny other company would get crushed.
I have a stop at $312 and will lose about 4 grand if it trips.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
I thought you were in early?I'm still clinging to my AAPL life preserver. If the rebound doesn't come, I may need to talk to a divorce attorney.You got Gunz'd. It happens.Like GOOG & NFLX, you know companies that actually make money. I seriously don't get it. This isn't some hot new start up, they've been in business for almost 20 years. ######ingandwhininglikealittlegirlAny other company would get crushed.
I have a stop at $312 and will lose about 4 grand if it trips.
culdeus
Footballguy
I'm not sure what to think about all the AAPL stock buyback. I mean without all that support where is the stock price? 350? What happens when they stop buying and haven't put anything out but a refresh at EOY?
After showing decent earnings it is strugggggggling to hold 430. Still on a trend towards 380
I worry about AAPL mainly because it was such an anchor on index etfs early this year. I don't hold any and sure as hell don't plan to.
After showing decent earnings it is strugggggggling to hold 430. Still on a trend towards 380
I worry about AAPL mainly because it was such an anchor on index etfs early this year. I don't hold any and sure as hell don't plan to.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Some of my $ was in early. Much of it came later.I thought you were in early?I'm still clinging to my AAPL life preserver. If the rebound doesn't come, I may need to talk to a divorce attorney.You got Gunz'd. It happens.Like GOOG & NFLX, you know companies that actually make money. I seriously don't get it. This isn't some hot new start up, they've been in business for almost 20 years. ######ingandwhininglikealittlegirlAny other company would get crushed.
I have a stop at $312 and will lose about 4 grand if it trips.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Their earnings were actually a bit scary. China growth was negative and ipad sales were really bad relative to expectations. The iphone numbers were the only real positive but any mis-step down the road with the iphone and this stock could crater.
The huge amount of 2011 iphone buyers after Jobs death started becoming eligible for upgrade in May (at least i know the ATT people, not sure with other carriers how it works), so a lot of that number was helped by that. A large % of the general public will just upgrade when they can and not wait for the yearly update.
Also very little conviction on this recent post earnings run-up.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Despite being battered the past 8 months or so, I'm optimistic. Sales are fine - they still dominate the tablet market and the 31M iPhones this quarter was a great number. China was definitely disappointing, but that economy is struggling, so some slippage was expected.
Margins are the biggest problem AAPL has had in investors eyes, and the fix could be right around the corner if the lower priced version of the iPhone is introduced in the fall as expected. And there are a few major catalysts out there that will certainly spur a run up when they happen: the watch, the television, and China Mobile.
I'm also happy with the stock buybacks and dividends - though I would like to see them get even more aggressive since they still report ~ 146B in cash on hand. That's just insane.
Finally, when you look at the fundamentals of the tech giants, Apple's by far the cheapest stock amongst the big boys.
Margins are the biggest problem AAPL has had in investors eyes, and the fix could be right around the corner if the lower priced version of the iPhone is introduced in the fall as expected. And there are a few major catalysts out there that will certainly spur a run up when they happen: the watch, the television, and China Mobile.
I'm also happy with the stock buybacks and dividends - though I would like to see them get even more aggressive since they still report ~ 146B in cash on hand. That's just insane.
Finally, when you look at the fundamentals of the tech giants, Apple's by far the cheapest stock amongst the big boys.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
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Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
I have a buttload of shares in EFRFF I'm kicking around unloading at $.18 (if I can). The little bit of a boost to some of those miners has given me too much exposure in that space right now, and that would be about a 36% gain. Just be happy with a win and don't dwell on what could be, right?
