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Think you buy Barrick Gold into the Federal Reserve today. They want to continue their assault on anyone not worth 3 commas, this is how you play defense, imo.

Im already engorged to the gills, but I’m hopeful they inject a new leg up today for this one with a super dovish tone.

 
Most people haven’t received any of that money. 
Yup.  That's a bunch of crap.  My son is sitting on week 6 now and the damn state's unemployment phone line says we aren't taking calls.  I'm assuming interest is accruing on DFS card in the meantime.  He'll eventually pay it as he knows the value of a good credit score to the things he wants to do in life.  

I'm assuming that eventually all this money will start flowing and most people will come out relatively unscathed.  Obviously people relying on job's related to large crowds will be in a tough situation for longer.  These credit companies will definitely fell pain, but the are also trading at a 60% discount to where they previously were so some of that is baked in.

 
Think you buy Barrick Gold into the Federal Reserve today. They want to continue their assault on anyone not worth 3 commas, this is how you play defense, imo.

Im already engorged to the gills, but I’m hopeful they inject a new leg up today for this one with a super dovish tone.
Timing was pretty bad for this post, market will run on Gilead and pressure gold a little. 

 
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Boeing up pre-market with an ugly report but free cash flow was better than expected. It sure seems like people are looking for the one shred of good news, especially since these are Q1 numbers. Q2 numbers are what’s going to be truly ugly. I can the market staying flat but a new bull just seems insane. It’s going to take a while to get everyone back to work. Do we really think companies that have trimmed a lot are immediately going to hire everyone back and if not, consumer spending is going to fall short of expected. I can see the Fed/Government propping everything up but I see a sideways move for a while as our best scenario.

 
Yup.  That's a bunch of crap.  My son is sitting on week 6 now and the damn state's unemployment phone line says we aren't taking calls.  I'm assuming interest is accruing on DFS card in the meantime.  He'll eventually pay it as he knows the value of a good credit score to the things he wants to do in life.  

I'm assuming that eventually all this money will start flowing and most people will come out relatively unscathed.  Obviously people relying on job's related to large crowds will be in a tough situation for longer.  These credit companies will definitely fell pain, but the are also trading at a 60% discount to where they previously were so some of that is baked in.
There are a lot on non minimum wage earners who got paid off and honestly are still being laid off. 

 
I cannot gleam any good news from the Boeing report at all.  Dreamliner production halved.  777 production halved.  Preparation of 737max expected to ramp up - of course they don't even have approval on this one yet and orders are getting cancelled left and right.  Commercial airline traffic down 97%.  They are anticipating payroll reduction of 10% - ONLY 10% for a company that is hemorrhaging cash at > $5B per quarter and with mid-term prospects looking very bleak.  First quarter loss was $1.70 per share vs $1.60 expected.  But hey, we have access to money so stock up 4% premarket

 
Are we going to get a bounce off that horrible economy news today? :lmao:  
And that was Q1, which had what a week of actual shut downs? Wait until Q2. Stocks look positive but since Amazon seems to go the opposite way, I’ll probably have a lagging day. I’m not optimistic at all. I’ve got enough cash on the sidelines to go to work but this optimism is the same as mid February as if the CV didn’t exist. The hit to the economy is real and as I said above, those companies that trimmed aren’t going to add everyone back for a while. Places will make do with less until forced to add staff.

 
I cannot gleam any good news from the Boeing report at all.  Dreamliner production halved.  777 production halved.  Preparation of 737max expected to ramp up - of course they don't even have approval on this one yet and orders are getting cancelled left and right.  Commercial airline traffic down 97%.  They are anticipating payroll reduction of 10% - ONLY 10% for a company that is hemorrhaging cash at > $5B per quarter and with mid-term prospects looking very bleak.  First quarter loss was $1.70 per share vs $1.60 expected.  But hey, we have access to money so stock up 4% premarket
Everyone in the market has easy access to cheap money. This is why you own gold, and if it gets slaughtered today by those dumb enough to think it’s a hedge against chaos (when really, it’s a hedge against central banks destroying fiat), you take advantage. With positive CV news and the Fed giving the green light to party, could get a good opportunity in the coming days on GOLD.

ETA:

Im already holding as much as I want since the teens, so it’ll prob be unpleasant for me, but a good chance to get in if you’re not holding.

 
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I cannot gleam any good news from the Boeing report at all.  Dreamliner production halved.  777 production halved.  Preparation of 737max expected to ramp up - of course they don't even have approval on this one yet and orders are getting cancelled left and right.  Commercial airline traffic down 97%.  They are anticipating payroll reduction of 10% - ONLY 10% for a company that is hemorrhaging cash at > $5B per quarter and with mid-term prospects looking very bleak.  First quarter loss was $1.70 per share vs $1.60 expected.  But hey, we have access to money so stock up 4% premarket
Do they have to maintain payroll based on the government assistance? Seemed like a lot of the loans and stuff had conditions baked in, but I don’t know about Boeing.

The funny, well not funny, thing is that this is Q1. We didn’t shut down school here until mid-March. That was the weekend that my wife was going to go to NYC and she cancelled it at the beginning of March. At that point, I was still going to Costco and there was no real social distancing or stay at homes. China was bad but in the US NYC was just seeing spotty cases. Q2 numbers are going to be bleak.

 
FOMC today and important factor in if $SPX sees 3k. Bears had a shot yesterday but failed so far - shooting star candle & new high with bearish daily RSI divergence. Key levels now: Bears need to confirm the shooting star by losing 2850, otherwise we continue to my ~200dma target

What does Mancini mean here? :)

 
Everyone in the market has easy access to cheap money. This is why you own gold, and if it gets slaughtered today by those dumb enough to think it’s a hedge against chaos (when really, it’s a hedge against central banks destroying fiat), you take advantage. With positive CV news and the Fed giving the green light to party, could get a good opportunity in the coming days on GOLD.

ETA:

Im already holding as much as I want since the teens, so it’ll prob be unpleasant for me, but a good chance to get in if you’re not holding.
To that end, Boeing looking to raise debt, as much as $10 billion. I guess the market is very binary now. If you aren't going bankrupt, you go up, no matter what your numbers are. If you are going bankrupt, well maybe you can also go up like AMC. 

 
To that end, Boeing looking to raise debt, as much as $10 billion. I guess the market is very binary now. If you aren't going bankrupt, you go up, no matter what your numbers are. If you are going bankrupt, well maybe you can also go up like AMC. 
Do you think that Boeing will fail? 

 
Yup.  That's a bunch of crap.  My son is sitting on week 6 now and the damn state's unemployment phone line says we aren't taking calls.  I'm assuming interest is accruing on DFS card in the meantime.  He'll eventually pay it as he knows the value of a good credit score to the things he wants to do in life.  

I'm assuming that eventually all this money will start flowing and most people will come out relatively unscathed. Obviously people relying on job's related to large crowds will be in a tough situation for longer.  These credit companies will definitely fell pain, but the are also trading at a 60% discount to where they previously were so some of that is baked in.
V shaped recovery for unemployment?

 
anyone else worried about consumer debt bubble popping and defaults pushing down financials like DFS/AXP? 
 

good time to cash out on DFS? 
 

Mancini made a pretty explicit call on a Late sharp move down below 2885 today.... 
I used to think "how can banks lose Money"?  We found out in 2008 that they can be just as dumb as anyone.  

 
I haven't been to a movie theater in 10 years.  The desire to overpay to watch something in a crowded room full of strangers who will pay $9 for soda abandoned me long ago.
We've seen only marvel and SW (which was a waste, but whatever) in theater. Everything else can wait. I wouldn't be at all against shutting down movie theaters. 

anyone else worried about consumer debt bubble popping and defaults pushing down financials like DFS/AXP? 
 

good time to cash out on DFS? 
 

Mancini made a pretty explicit call on a Late sharp move down below 2885 today.... 
Maybe. But I'll hang on and wish I had bought more.

I like them long too, I guess I'm just curious about the risk in next 12-18mo to the P/E or dividend, Wouldn't be the first div casualty of this year. 

Maybe I'm worried about nothing. 
I'm not even assuming we get a dividend, the company will be fine long term.

Are we going to get a bounce off that horrible economy news today? :lmao:  
It's nuts. Every time I start thinking "this is crazy, I need to pull back into a more conservative portfolio" the market rises. I guess I can just pull the trigger into a 70/30 split. Or just a bit off my current 90/10 (I transferred a bit yesterday into G and F funds)

 
I used to think "how can banks lose Money"?  We found out in 2008 that they can be just as dumb as anyone.  
Oh, there's risk for sure. But at the current valuation I'll happily keep. 

If I were to throw a number out, it would be when the PE gets over 13. 

 
Do you think that Boeing will fail? 
Not anytime soon. Debt trades below 5%. Have the implicit backstop of $17bn from the Treasury. Believe the deadline is May 1st so would assume they'll be out in the market raising debt and will backfill with government funds. Wanted to see how onerous the Treasury terms would be. I don't have enough of a view long-term to make a prediction. But their balance sheet is likely to come out of this a mess that dividends/buybacks are likely done for a while. Could still be a GM situation where government backstops the company through bankruptcy.

 
In theory, why should there be a huge debt bubble?  I know there are people struggling, but is it really that many?  If we are going back to work in May/June, wasn't the Federal response with stimulus and the $600 unemployment bump enough to keep most people afloat?  
I can't tell if this is satire or you are serious.  If the latter, seems pretty out of touch to me with the reality for a lot of people.

 
I’m very bad at this.  Sold DFS and BLMN yesterday to lock in some profits, both up 10% today.  Didn’t sell FRO and DHT when they were up 10% yesterday, now watching them down 15% from there.  

 
Not anytime soon. Debt trades below 5%. Have the implicit backstop of $17bn from the Treasury. Believe the deadline is May 1st so would assume they'll be out in the market raising debt and will backfill with government funds. Wanted to see how onerous the Treasury terms would be. I don't have enough of a view long-term to make a prediction. But their balance sheet is likely to come out of this a mess that dividends/buybacks are likely done for a while. Could still be a GM situation where government backstops the company through bankruptcy.
I'm thinking more politically/logically. Can one company (Airbus) produce most of the aircraft for the world? Can that one company (and others chasing like Bombardier and Embraer) not include a company based in the US?

I think the answer to both questions is No. So the only question  is whether they will go bankrupt to clear out the debt, which as you point out, is not onerous. Unless you think so, the current price seems like an excellent risk/reward opportunity.

All my opinion of course. 

ETA - Meant to highlight your bankruptcy line. I don't think it gets to that but if one thinks that, they should stay away. 

 
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Yea I don’t know. Looks like we are strictly forward facing now and that will just be explained off as an occurrence of a once in a lifetime event. 
I personally believe it kinda has a lot to do with what @fantasycurse42 is saying (as I'm of a similar belief).   Worldwide--government issued currently is going to drop with all of the stimulus going on.  Will this happen in weeks or maybe months--maybe not--but governments cannot just print trillions and trillions of dollars out of thin air and expect nothing to result from it.   People that have money to spend/invest are not wanting to get stuck with lots of it knowing that cash is an asset that is going to sink soon.   Stocks are an investable asset--and being that it seems that the big companies that are on the markets are getting boat loads of cash immediately while the small businesses are allowed to go extinct--even overpaying now for a stock will be a bargain later.  I've said it before--the way we are printing money--there will be far more cash than there will be investable assets.    This is bullish for stocks, precious metals , and real estate (maybe not all commercial) in the long term.   

 
Do you guys think that this matters anymore? I'm not so sure.
More and more everyday I'm thinking no.  Don't fight the fed.  Seems like they'll keep dumping in whatever they can and I don't expect that to stop anytime soon.  Lots of forward thinking and giving passes on any negative Q1 results too.  I expect the same for Q2.  Other things that I keep hearing is all these big money guys on CNBC saying how they still have 40-60% cash.  What kind of bounce will we get when they decided to get back in?  

 
V shaped recovery for unemployment?
Yes, but the bottom of the V is still 4-8 weeks out

I can't tell if this is satire or you are serious.  If the latter, seems pretty out of touch to me with the reality for a lot of people.
All kinds of unfilled  jobs right now. Unless a job is offering 70k plus your better off not working. Sons gf was furloughed and is getting a pay increase while her coworkers have to do her job and probably wish they got the furlough. Small business loan that doesn’t have to be paid back is a going to result in profits for any company able to keep any type of revenue flow going. 

Assuming most can return to work in May and June, this is going to be the end of the world. Note that I’m not speaking to the case of this falling apart in fall. I’m also not talking about the issues a year or two from now with all the new debt

 
FOMC today and important factor in if $SPX sees 3k. Bears had a shot yesterday but failed so far - shooting star candle & new high with bearish daily RSI divergence. Key levels now: Bears need to confirm the shooting star by losing 2850, otherwise we continue to my ~200dma target

What does Mancini mean here? :)
As the market has moved up he's moved his top (before a pullback) up to 3k. See his chart. As long as it remains in the channel, it keeps going up. That's where his 2850 comes in. That number is below the ending diagonal (I believe they call it that). Not sure about the shooting star stuff. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/shootingstar.asp

Basically same here (a couple days old): https://www.elliottwavetrader.net/p/analysis/Bears-Fumble-202004275968798.html  That Ricky Wen is good at it but ya gotta pay for it. Sometimes they post freebees. Don't like Avi. he's a ####.

 
I'm thinking more politically/logically. Can one company (Airbus) produce most of the aircraft for the world? Can that one company (and others chasing like Bombardier and Embraer) not include a company based in the US?

I think the answer to both questions is No. So the only question  is whether they will go bankrupt to clear out the debt, which as you point out, is not onerous. Unless you think so, the current price seems like an excellent risk/reward opportunity.

All my opinion of course. 

ETA - Meant to highlight your bankruptcy line. I don't think it gets to that but if one thinks that, they should stay away. 
Fair. I just think bankruptcy is this boogeyman term. Liquidation should be the real concern of anyone worried about our airline/defense industry but to your point, I'd bet someone would buy BA's operations and just run them better. But I hear ya. If I had to guess, I'd say you're right. I just try to stay away from those scenarios especially since the market is pricing in some support already. 

For me, BA is just the ultimate trading vehicle right now. I'm just following option flows and trading it around because it seems like it's just going to bounce around for a while. 

 
Yes, but the bottom of the V is still 4-8 weeks out

All kinds of unfilled  jobs right now. Unless a job is offering 70k plus your better off not working. Sons gf was furloughed and is getting a pay increase while her coworkers have to do her job and probably wish they got the furlough. Small business loan that doesn’t have to be paid back is a going to result in profits for any company able to keep any type of revenue flow going. 

Assuming most can return to work in May and June, this is going to be the end of the world. Note that I’m not speaking to the case of this falling apart in fall. I’m also not talking about the issues a year or two from now with all the new debt
They are really focusing simply on the treatments and potential cure for the virus and ignoring the bad news of layoffs and business going out of business, assuming I guess that once the virus clears up, all is back to normal and there will be no damage.

Can't say it's not out of the question but I believe one of the restaurants that was doing huge business totally closed up, no take out, just gave up and shut the doors. Yet another one that was simply take out to begin with, then once business picked up, they opened a small eat in area. They are going great guns and have the eat in area shut off. Gotta call in my order well before 12:00. The big question is, does spending go back to normal levels? Probably because most people cannot save $. They see it sitting doing nothing, instead of investing, they buy the $40000 truck that they don't need.

Rainy day fund? No way. Spend spend spend. What are they doing? Tapping the 401ks. 

 
As the market has moved up he's moved his top (before a pullback) up to 3k. See his chart. As long as it remains in the channel, it keeps going up. That's where his 2850 comes in. That number is below the ending diagonal (I believe they call it that). Not sure about the shooting star stuff. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/shootingstar.asp

Basically same here (a couple days old): https://www.elliottwavetrader.net/p/analysis/Bears-Fumble-202004275968798.html  That Ricky Wen is good at it but ya gotta pay for it. Sometimes they post freebees. Don't like Avi. he's a ####.
These chart guys make me laugh. I’m seeing a Collapsing Collapsing star

 
Patience with ALLY & DAL has finally paid off the last 2 days!  I felt like they've been slow-bleeding me for weeks.

BUD, DFS, and WTI have been great this week too, thanks for those tips!!  And obviously, a HUGE thank you to Chet for your CYDY tip.  It's really helped me make up for some mistakes I made during the dip.

 
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I personally believe it kinda has a lot to do with what @fantasycurse42 is saying (as I'm of a similar belief).   Worldwide--government issued currently is going to drop with all of the stimulus going on.  Will this happen in weeks or maybe months--maybe not--but governments cannot just print trillions and trillions of dollars out of thin air and expect nothing to result from it.   People that have money to spend/invest are not wanting to get stuck with lots of it knowing that cash is an asset that is going to sink soon.   Stocks are an investable asset--and being that it seems that the big companies that are on the markets are getting boat loads of cash immediately while the small businesses are allowed to go extinct--even overpaying now for a stock will be a bargain later.  I've said it before--the way we are printing money--there will be far more cash than there will be investable assets.    This is bullish for stocks, precious metals , and real estate (maybe not all commercial) in the long term.   
I think people are relying on the Fed a bit too much. At a certain point, the Fed isn't going to pump trillions into the stock market if the dislocation between main street and wall street persists. It doesn't really help with their mandate. Not trying to turn this into a referendum on the Fed. But it seems like the market is overly relying on the Fed. The press conference will be fascinating but I wouldn't be surprised to hear Powell back off some. Just don't see the Fed proactively buying stuff although its goal of stabilizing the market has already been achieved. 

 

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