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Walking Boot said:
What does quoting some random stock prices have to do with anything? How does the price of Pfizer or Gilead relate at all to the price of CYDY? How can you possibly use stock price as any measure of relative value of two companies?

If TESLA is $1000 a share, and FORD is $5 a share, is Telsa 200 times more valuable than Ford?
Learning about market cap is critical, of course.  And while maybe a naive way of asking, I think it's fairly obvious what he meant - which is, if I buy a share of CYDY for $3.xx today, what do you guys expect the upside value of that share to be if all goes as well as can be expected?  Are you buying a share at $3 hoping that it'll be $6 next year?  Or $60?

 
Learning about market cap is critical, of course.  And while maybe a naive way of asking, I think it's fairly obvious what he meant - which is, if I buy a share of CYDY for $3.xx today, what do you guys expect the upside value of that share to be if all goes as well as can be expected?  Are you buying a share at $3 hoping that it'll be $6 next year?  Or $60?
The $64000 question. Or add two zeroes if you’re Chet. Personally, I would sell 10% of my position if it hits $5. Another 15% at $10, and probably all but a couple thousand shares (~20%) at $20 per share. Given my profits already (my cost basis is under $0), I’d keep 1000 or 2000 shares essentially forever, hoping it becomes $100 stock. But by $20 per share, I’d take profits.

Been waiting on Chet’s reply to this question for a while. #popcorn 

 
Just wanted to drop in and thank all of you for doing some ETF breakdowns.   :thumbup:

Been doing my own research for the last couple weeks in an effort to diversify. The contributions made here have helped a lot.

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Just wanted to drop in and thank all of you for doing some ETF breakdowns.   :thumbup:

Been doing my own research for the last couple weeks in an effort to diversify. The contributions made here have helped a lot.

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What did you decide?

I'm thinking of adding some ESGs, but most seem to have relatively high expenses. FITLX seems better than most, but maybe it's just better to buy the companies using a similar methodology. 

 
The $64000 question. Or add two zeroes if you’re Chet. Personally, I would sell 10% of my position if it hits $5. Another 15% at $10, and probably all but a couple thousand shares (~20%) at $20 per share. Given my profits already (my cost basis is under $0), I’d keep 1000 or 2000 shares essentially forever, hoping it becomes $100 stock. But by $20 per share, I’d take profits.

Been waiting on Chet’s reply to this question for a while. #popcorn 
I still have no clue what I will do. I’m not selling now, too much potential upside. I didn’t sell and buy to get my cost down but my basis is $1.69 due to buying more just under $3. I would definitely think about selling a bit at $5-6 to potentially get me playing with house money. It probably depends on what gets the stock there. If it’s just up-listing then I’d be more tempted. If it’s great trial results then I’d probably be more tempted to hold.

Here’s to hoping we are all wondering whether we should sell or let it go higher. 

 
For those thinking about selling CYDY at certain increments, why not just set a stop limit sell order? That way if it keeps climbing, you're good.

I do worry about market manipulation to hit triggers since they are "known" but I'm probably too paranoid on this. 

 
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Just wanted to drop in and thank all of you for doing some ETF breakdowns.   :thumbup:

Been doing my own research for the last couple weeks in an effort to diversify. The contributions made here have helped a lot.

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What did you decide?

I'm thinking of adding some ESGs, but most seem to have relatively high expenses. FITLX seems better than most, but maybe it's just better to buy the companies using a similar methodology. 
I still haven't. Not to mention the fact that you've given me more homework with regard to the bolded,  :rant:  , lol

Seriously though, I'm still trying to get a grasp on Inverses, Single, Double and Triple leveraged ETFs.  I have plenty of individual stocks. Just looking for low risk / dividend paying options.

Thanks for asking.

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ETA: Whatever ETFs I want to get will be buy and hold. No intraday trading will happen with these spots.

 
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For those thinking about selling CYDY at certain increments, why not just set a stop limit sell order? That way if it keeps climbing, you're good.

I do worry about market manipulation to hit triggers since they are "known" but I'm probably too paranoid on this. 
General fear with such a strategy would likely be some bad news coming out after hours and stock gapping down like crazy before your limit sell hits. 

 
So you’re saying that if CYDY turns out to be a $100 billion company, the stock price would be $200 per share? I could live with that. It’s about a 50-bagger but it could happen. 

 
So you’re saying that if CYDY turns out to be a $100 billion company, the stock price would be $200 per share? I could live with that. It’s about a 50-bagger but it could happen. 
I could even live with a $50 billion market cap/ $100 per share :)  

I would like to say I would hold until then (if it were to happen) , but like you said will depend on the reasons why the stock is appreciating, if in fact it does goes up.

I did de-risk and sold about 20% of my shares in April at almost $3.  I recouped about 70% of my original basis so not super concerned about letting the remaining portion ride.  Actually CYDY has been a wonderful distraction these last 6 months and I consider that remaining 30% worth it for that reason alone.  

 
To put this in context for my situation: right now CYDY comprises about 6% of my retirement investments. If it went to $10 per share, that percent would rise to 18%. No way I want to be that concentrated unless we’re talking AMZN or AAPL. If makes sense to take profits to keep your personal allocations reasonably intact. 

 
Personally CYDY is one of my gambling stocks and I'm probably not selling any unless it shoots to the moon.  It would be different if this were money I am counting on but that money is tied up in boring stuff like AAPL and SPY.

I haven't taken any profits from $1 to $3.68.  In a normal market I would, but not this one.  If they get listed and get some good news in this market this thing could rocket.  Like I've been mentioning ad nauseum in this thread a lot of crappier biotech companies have mooned on a lot less positive news in this market.  I am holding for that kind of rocket.  If it never comes I am fine with that as I'm fine holding long-term for the HIV benefits.  The only case I'd consider selling (and then likely buying back in lower, later on) is in one of those parabolic Robinhood moves that would come alongside an uplisting + good news.

 
To put this in context for my situation: right now CYDY comprises about 6% of my retirement investments. If it went to $10 per share, that percent would rise to 18%. No way I want to be that concentrated unless we’re talking AMZN or AAPL. If makes sense to take profits to keep your personal allocations reasonably intact. 
If leronlimab does everything Bruce Patterson say it does, you are talking about a company with the significance of AMZN or APPL.

 
For those thinking about selling CYDY at certain increments, why not just set a stop limit sell order? That way if it keeps climbing, you're good.

I do worry about market manipulation to hit triggers since they are "known" but I'm probably too paranoid on this. 
To me a stop loss is more for technical trading.  If cydy goes down because that knucklehead Nader does something dumb that doesn’t mean I want to exit

 
I already did the sensible thing with CYDY by getting my cost basis back. The remaining shares are 100% freeroll, which makes it much easier to be aggressive.

Legit buyout offer from Big Pharma = auto-sell. Don't care what the number is. Time to go.

Short of that, I suppose there's a number that would meet the goal I had of flogging this account into respectability in two years, then investing sensibly thereafter. That number is still quite a ways off, though.

Which brings me to my final point. These guys still have to ring the bell on both trials and announce uplisting before I start the search for a naval architect to express my vision.

 
I already did the sensible thing with CYDY by getting my cost basis back. The remaining shares are 100% freeroll, which makes it much easier to be aggressive.

Legit buyout offer from Big Pharma = auto-sell. Don't care what the number is. Time to go.

Short of that, I suppose there's a number that would meet the goal I had of flogging this account into respectability in two years, then investing sensibly thereafter. That number is still quite a ways off, though.

Which brings me to my final point. These guys still have to ring the bell on both trials and announce uplisting before I start the search for a naval architect to express my vision.
Agree with this on timing and how I’m thinking about it.

I put a decent amount in, more than I ever had for an OTC...but in Chet I trust.  I’m up 100% so far.

 At this point I’ve excluded it from my net worth calculation.  I don’t count the daily ups and downs.  If say my target was not to exceed 15% of my net worth then it defeats the whole lotto nature of it.  It wasn’t that big a % when I bought it so if I lost it and I’m not banking on the gains the same holds true.  Sure...if it goes to zero I left some legit money on the table but to me this has wealth game changer potential that I’ll take some more risk on (at most lost gains I never had to begin with)

 
If leronlimab does everything Bruce Patterson say it does, you are talking about a company with the significance of AMZN or APPL.
Might be significant but unlikely to have the market cap. Both AMZN and AAPL are or will be trillion dollar companies by the time (if ever) CYDY hits $100 billion. 

 
Might be significant but unlikely to have the market cap. Both AMZN and AAPL are or will be trillion dollar companies by the time (if ever) CYDY hits $100 billion. 
Umm, both of them have been trillion dollar companies for a while. You are correct though, the significance won’t hit those two.

 
If leronlimab does everything Bruce Patterson say it does, you are talking about a company with the significance of AMZN or APPL.
Unless some other company comes in a buys them?  What happens then?

For example if I have stock in lebronlemonaide, and PFE buys them out, what happens to the CYDY stock I have?

 
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Unless some other company comes in a buys them?  What happens then?

For example if I have stock in lebronlemonaide, and PFE buys them out, what happens to the CYDY stock I have?
Turns into PFE stock. You can also sell when announced because the price typically goes up the commensurate amount. Hmm, haven’t used that word in a while, but it fits. I’d be selling after the announcement if it wasn’t a stock I wanted to own later. I’d likely sell it all if they get bought out. I’d assume a buyout would have to be on the order of $10 a share unless it had already spiked.

Good luck to all. Hopefully we make out like bandits.

 
Agree with this on timing and how I’m thinking about it.

I put a decent amount in, more than I ever had for an OTC...but in Chet I trust.  I’m up 100% so far.

 At this point I’ve excluded it from my net worth calculation.  I don’t count the daily ups and downs.  If say my target was not to exceed 15% of my net worth then it defeats the whole lotto nature of it.  It wasn’t that big a % when I bought it so if I lost it and I’m not banking on the gains the same holds true.  Sure...if it goes to zero I left some legit money on the table but to me this has wealth game changer potential that I’ll take some more risk on (at most lost gains I never had to begin with)
I’m pretty much in the same boat and this is how I’m approaching as well.  

 
So for those of us who didn’t accumulate as much as we should have around $1, is CYDY still a buy now in the $3s?

 
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So for those of us who didn’t accumulate as much as they should have around $1, is CYDY still a buy now in the $3s?
That’s a tough call. If you can afford a potential lottery ticket then it probably is. Based on the recent info and activity, it seems like there may be some good news coming soon, so I hate to say wait until a drop it if doesn’t really come. On the other hand, getting in now does add a lot more risk. 

 
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I have 1K shares at ~$1 so 1K invested in a taxable account.  Since it was an OTC stock and only a 1K investment I didn't give much thought to the type of account where the purchase was made.  Does it make any sense to sell the 1K shares in that account and pay the taxes and then purchase 1K shares in a Roth account?  If the thing goes parabolic I think I would prefer the money in the Roth account.  Am I over thinking things?

 
I have 1K shares at ~$1 so 1K invested in a taxable account.  Since it was an OTC stock and only a 1K investment I didn't give much thought to the type of account where the purchase was made.  Does it make any sense to sell the 1K shares in that account and pay the taxes and then purchase 1K shares in a Roth account?  If the thing goes parabolic I think I would prefer the money in the Roth account.  Am I over thinking things?
Funny you mentioned that. I have a similar amount in taxable, but all new purchases are in Roth. Took me wayyyyyy too long to understand the Roth vs Taxable tax implications. 

 
I have 1K shares at ~$1 so 1K invested in a taxable account.  Since it was an OTC stock and only a 1K investment I didn't give much thought to the type of account where the purchase was made.  Does it make any sense to sell the 1K shares in that account and pay the taxes and then purchase 1K shares in a Roth account?  If the thing goes parabolic I think I would prefer the money in the Roth account.  Am I over thinking things?
Until CYDY, I hadn't had a brokerage account in 20 years.  And now I'm wondering if I can simply transfer that account to a new IRA type account. Or do I have to sell and rebuy?

And what's the max 2019 contribution for married filing, self employed, LLC S Corp filing?    I have until July 15th, and need to start an IRA (had a SEP IRA 20 yrs ago). Sold 11 houses 4th Q 2019 and my tax hit is rather large with that and I won a huge fantasy contest in Jan 19.

 
Bob Sacamano said:
Apparently you missed getting taken out by big pharma.
I don't think that a BP buyout is likely and I really hope it doesn't happen.  In conversations with other shareholders, we view a buyout as a risk--I know that seems ### backwards but that's how much we believe in the drug.  

 
I don't think that a BP buyout is likely and I really hope it doesn't happen.  In conversations with other shareholders, we view a buyout as a risk--I know that seems ### backwards but that's how much we believe in the drug.  
Depends on the price.  $10...yah I get it.  $30...I take it and run.

 
SHLL stock appears to be one of those acquisition companies like OPES and FMCI. Blew up on Friday with an announcement. I think it was on that list of SPACs someone else posted before but no way to know when the announcement comes. It’s a competitor to NKLA ironically. It opened Friday up about 60% and finished up 40%. Might be something to play around with like OPES/FMCI.

 
SHLL stock appears to be one of those acquisition companies like OPES and FMCI. Blew up on Friday with an announcement. I think it was on that list of SPACs someone else posted before but no way to know when the announcement comes. It’s a competitor to NKLA ironically. It opened Friday up about 60% and finished up 40%. Might be something to play around with like OPES/FMCI.
Have my eye on it...these SPACs have been money in the bank.

 
No chance the buyout comes at $30 with the stock <$4.  More likely, it's around $8-9.
Buyout wouldn’t be horrible just because it means another double, but I’d rather the buyout come after uplisting and great news.

Just take us to the promised land. I’m up one year of tuition for my soon to be sophomore. Let’s see if we can make it to kid two!

 
No chance the buyout comes at $30 with the stock <$4.  More likely, it's around $8-9.
A buyout that big has happened in the recent past.  Below happened 4 years ago.  I actually won the annual FBG Stock Pick contest with it.  I was in around $1.50 and rode it until the end at $30.  Paid off my student loans with it.  Praying for something similar with $CYDY

https://www.forbes.com/sites/luketimmerman/2016/05/31/celator-gets-bought-seeing-stock-rocket-from-1-68-to-30-25-in-two-months/#7c0a89e421ff

 
A buyout that big has happened in the recent past.  Below happened 4 years ago.  I actually won the annual FBG Stock Pick contest with it.  I was in around $1.50 and rode it until the end at $30.  Paid off my student loans with it.  Praying for something similar with $CYDY

https://www.forbes.com/sites/luketimmerman/2016/05/31/celator-gets-bought-seeing-stock-rocket-from-1-68-to-30-25-in-two-months/#7c0a89e421ff
Congrats. That said, that’s not the same. The buyout was a 72% premium. Your stock had already gone up to the high teens. Chet was saying a buyout wouldn’t take the stock from 4 to 30, i.e. a 650% premium. If it goes to 15-20, then maybe a buyout at 30.

 
Congrats. That said, that’s not the same. The buyout was a 72% premium. Your stock had already gone up to the high teens. Chet was saying a buyout wouldn’t take the stock from 4 to 30, i.e. a 650% premium. If it goes to 15-20, then maybe a buyout at 30.
It went from less than $2 to about $18 to $30 within a 6 month span if i remember correctly.

 
I have 1K shares at ~$1 so 1K invested in a taxable account.  Since it was an OTC stock and only a 1K investment I didn't give much thought to the type of account where the purchase was made.  Does it make any sense to sell the 1K shares in that account and pay the taxes and then purchase 1K shares in a Roth account?  If the thing goes parabolic I think I would prefer the money in the Roth account.  Am I over thinking things?
Generally, dividend yielders and high growth potential should be in Roth accounts.  Stable companies would be better for regular brokerage.

 
I'm waiting for the oil boom. I feel like we're going to see an irrationally large spike here at some point.

I don't see demand going further down. I don't foresee an oil crisis in the winter, but I certainly can see a huge emotional selloff.

Still between now and October I think the sector gains 25-30%. Lots of great dividend stocks like DHT to pair with it.

Price estimate for 2021 is $60 a barrel. It's currently at $40 a barrel and has been riding for about 2 weeks now. Investors are scared but that's good.

Lots of rigs being shutdown. Many countries complying with cut backs. Will be listening to these quarterly reports closely. Energy still a heavily beat down sector. If it collapses again, it's taking the whole market down with it again, imo.

 
It went from less than $2 to about $18 to $30 within a 6 month span if i remember correctly.
Not questioning that at all, it happened. In the article, it says a 72% premium so the buyout itself was from 18 to 30ish. All chet was saying is that a buyout from 4 to 8/9 could happen. If CYDY runs up to 18, then you could get 30 as a buyout, but a buyout of 30 for a stock currently at 4 wouldn't happen.

 

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