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Man, I swear the S&P was just green like 20 minutes ago...
I honestly don't understand the stock market. S&P down almost 2% most of the day, climbs all the way back to green, then goes down 1.25% in the last 35 minutes of the day
IMO it's just the sentiment in this thread playing out.

Poster Bear 1 - feels like WW3 coming, I'm selling

Poster Bear 2 - stagflation coming, I'm selling

Poster Techie - Nvidia forward PE less than Coke, I'm buying

Poster Pro FA - Initiating a position in ABC at these levels

Then you add in tonight's wildcard and people like me are hedging at the close.

And while this isn't a shot @Todem , there are pros sitting around that need to beat the indexes that feel like they need to be doing something during tumultuous times.
No offense taken and what all my clients pay me for is exactly what I am doing right now thus far this year.

Beating all three indexs on the downside.

Kicking the living crap outta them actually.

Our phones are have been quiet and I have been making very easy phones calls informing people we are fine.

It’s an easy conversation to tell someone they are still positive on the year even after the last two days and beating the S&P anywhere (depends on the allocation) from 150-650 basis points.

We are good.
 
My boss is a coin nerd who loves nothing more than bidding on coins at online auctions. Neat, huh?

Anyhow, he's been trying to buy 1oz US Silver Eagles that are slabbed and being auctioned off. These aren't rare, they're hold nothing of value over spot other than being mint and slabbed. They ordinarily would go for a few bucks over spot price in an auction. He's been bidding 150% on these coins and getting shut out. Insanity. These are the sort of coins that if you had them and needed to sell would fetch you roughly $31.50 (spot price of silver today). And people around the world are bidding 150-160% premiums to 'win' these.
He should be selling his collection. :moneybag: :moneybag:
 
Man, I swear the S&P was just green like 20 minutes ago...
I honestly don't understand the stock market. S&P down almost 2% most of the day, climbs all the way back to green, then goes down 1.25% in the last 35 minutes of the day
Short term traders don't want to hold overnight. Particularly since there is a big political speech tonight (<--- not a political statement, just noting the event!).
 
Man, I swear the S&P was just green like 20 minutes ago...
I honestly don't understand the stock market. S&P down almost 2% most of the day, climbs all the way back to green, then goes down 1.25% in the last 35 minutes of the day
I fear that my post is going to come across or someone will interpret it as being political even though I’m 10000% not intending it to be. Regardless of if one agrees or disagrees with the actions of the new administration—one constant is that our markets tend to like a certain level of consistency and predictability. It’s clear that this administration is one that is not averse to taking action and doing so quickly. This kind of action and environment seems like it has a strong potential to breed volatility. it does seem as though the ultimate goal of this administration is to be more business friendly (more deregulation, lowering of corporate taxes)—but getting to those goals might be involve going through some ups and some downs. I’m not sure what @Todem thinks—but it kinda feels like the major downswings could be solid opportunities for long term investors to get into some good deals. I also feel like the volatility could make for some nice opportunities for stock traders—but that’s certainly not a risk-free proposition. Over the past few months, I actually sold some of my positions and took some profits. I’ve also been selling some of my alternative assets (some sportscards, timepieces) and keeping my cash on the sidelines. I just feel like there is going to be some opportunities in the stock market or possibly the real estate market in the next year to 18months to where I can make some moves. I might be misplaying the situation, but I feel a bit more comfortable having some extra cash on the sidelines right now.
 
Man, I swear the S&P was just green like 20 minutes ago...
I honestly don't understand the stock market. S&P down almost 2% most of the day, climbs all the way back to green, then goes down 1.25% in the last 35 minutes of the day
I fear that my post is going to come across or someone will interpret it as being political even though I’m 10000% not intending it to be. Regardless of if one agrees or disagrees with the actions of the new administration—one constant is that our markets tend to like a certain level of consistency and predictability. It’s clear that this administration is one that is not averse to taking action and doing so quickly. This kind of action and environment seems like it has a strong potential to breed volatility. it does seem as though the ultimate goal of this administration is to be more business friendly (more deregulation, lowering of corporate taxes)—but getting to those goals might be involve going through some ups and some downs. I’m not sure what @Todem thinks—but it kinda feels like the major downswings could be solid opportunities for long term investors to get into some good deals. I also feel like the volatility could make for some nice opportunities for stock traders—but that’s certainly not a risk-free proposition. Over the past few months, I actually sold some of my positions and took some profits. I’ve also been selling some of my alternative assets (some sportscards, timepieces) and keeping my cash on the sidelines. I just feel like there is going to be some opportunities in the stock market or possibly the real estate market in the next year to 18months to where I can make some moves. I might be misplaying the situation, but I feel a bit more comfortable having some extra cash on the sidelines right now.
I fully agree with your sentiments.
 
Nothing to see here
You don't often see an economic shock like the Atlanta GDP is reflecting.
Thinking about going ALL CASH

How long should I wait before doing so?
There he is!

I'm finally getting back into the market.

Dumb?

Did I miss the wave?

:shrug:

Todem

Did I get back into the market at the wrong time?

I just went 2/3 in.

:oldunsure:

Is NVDA a meme stonk now?
God no.

Hot stock? Yeah. But they are proving it on the top and bottom lines and future guidance and where we are in the "AI" cycle.

There is a bubble forming....no doubt. But NVDA are the ones selling all the pick axes in the gold rush if you get my drift.

What does a bubble forming mean exactly?

TIA

I'm just getting back into the market.

Is this a bad idea?

:shrug:

What would you consider to be Long Term?

TIA

3- 5 years?

:oldunsure:

Is it time to get out?

:shrug:

I mean this in the nicest way possible - you might just want to auto-invest into index funds and never log into your account, or hire someone.
Read lots of comments about cash percentage in here that have me wondering just how close to retirement some folks are. Cause missing a roaring 20% year in your mid 30s because of too much cash really can hurt in the long run.
 
Nothing to see here
You don't often see an economic shock like the Atlanta GDP is reflecting.
Thinking about going ALL CASH

How long should I wait before doing so?
There he is!

I'm finally getting back into the market.

Dumb?

Did I miss the wave?

:shrug:

Todem

Did I get back into the market at the wrong time?

I just went 2/3 in.

:oldunsure:

Is NVDA a meme stonk now?
God no.

Hot stock? Yeah. But they are proving it on the top and bottom lines and future guidance and where we are in the "AI" cycle.

There is a bubble forming....no doubt. But NVDA are the ones selling all the pick axes in the gold rush if you get my drift.

What does a bubble forming mean exactly?

TIA

I'm just getting back into the market.

Is this a bad idea?

:shrug:

What would you consider to be Long Term?

TIA

3- 5 years?

:oldunsure:

Is it time to get out?

:shrug:

I mean this in the nicest way possible - you might just want to auto-invest into index funds and never log into your account, or hire someone.
Read lots of comments about cash percentage in here that have me wondering just how close to retirement some folks are. Cause missing a roaring 20% year in your mid 30s because of too much cash really can hurt in the long run.
Yeah 100%
 
Nothing to see here
You don't often see an economic shock like the Atlanta GDP is reflecting.
Thinking about going ALL CASH

How long should I wait before doing so?
There he is!

I'm finally getting back into the market.

Dumb?

Did I miss the wave?

:shrug:

Todem

Did I get back into the market at the wrong time?

I just went 2/3 in.

:oldunsure:

Is NVDA a meme stonk now?
God no.

Hot stock? Yeah. But they are proving it on the top and bottom lines and future guidance and where we are in the "AI" cycle.

There is a bubble forming....no doubt. But NVDA are the ones selling all the pick axes in the gold rush if you get my drift.

What does a bubble forming mean exactly?

TIA

I'm just getting back into the market.

Is this a bad idea?

:shrug:

What would you consider to be Long Term?

TIA

3- 5 years?

:oldunsure:

Is it time to get out?

:shrug:

I mean this in the nicest way possible - you might just want to auto-invest into index funds and never log into your account, or hire someone.
Read lots of comments about cash percentage in here that have me wondering just how close to retirement some folks are. Cause missing a roaring 20% year in your mid 30s because of too much cash really can hurt in the long run.

Yeah I don't get the whole "well my options are cash or some yolo play". I'm probably guilty of not carrying enough debt but carrying cash isn't really a thought process for me.

I regret (not a lot) basically using my stock gainz to be mortgage free and car loan free with kids college done. I could be richer if I had leveraged more but, who says that?
 
Nothing to see here
You don't often see an economic shock like the Atlanta GDP is reflecting.
Thinking about going ALL CASH

How long should I wait before doing so?
There he is!

I'm finally getting back into the market.

Dumb?

Did I miss the wave?

:shrug:

Todem

Did I get back into the market at the wrong time?

I just went 2/3 in.

:oldunsure:

Is NVDA a meme stonk now?
God no.

Hot stock? Yeah. But they are proving it on the top and bottom lines and future guidance and where we are in the "AI" cycle.

There is a bubble forming....no doubt. But NVDA are the ones selling all the pick axes in the gold rush if you get my drift.

What does a bubble forming mean exactly?

TIA

I'm just getting back into the market.

Is this a bad idea?

:shrug:

What would you consider to be Long Term?

TIA

3- 5 years?

:oldunsure:

Is it time to get out?

:shrug:

I mean this in the nicest way possible - you might just want to auto-invest into index funds and never log into your account, or hire someone.
Read lots of comments about cash percentage in here that have me wondering just how close to retirement some folks are. Cause missing a roaring 20% year in your mid 30s because of too much cash really can hurt in the long run.

Yeah I don't get the whole "well my options are cash or some yolo play". I'm probably guilty of not carrying enough debt but carrying cash isn't really a thought process for me.

I regret (not a lot) basically using my stock gainz to be mortgage free and car loan free with kids college done. I could be richer if I had leveraged more but, who says that?
Historically, I'd carry almost zero cash in my brokerage or retirement accounts. That's because, pre-2022, the risk-free rate was under 1% (at least in the accounts I hold). Now it's 4.3% at Vanguard. Back in the day when you could borrow at a ridiculous 3% or even lower, then yes we all should have / could have carried more debt. That strategy is long gone with mortgage rates hovering around 7%.
 
Read lots of comments about cash percentage in here that have me wondering just how close to retirement some folks are. Cause missing a roaring 20% year in your mid 30s because of too much cash really can hurt in the long run.
I feel that. I got caught with too much cash over a long period about 15 years ago (I kept thinking a big pullback was imminent). I'm still doing pretty well overall, but in my weaker moments I start doing the math on where I'd be now in an alternate universe.

As it happens I have a sizable chunk of cash that's coming available now due to a merger. I'm trying to figure out the best way to feather that in. I obviously don't want to plow it all in the same day.
 
Sold off the new UWMC I bought last week for a 7.5% gain. That was pretty much a no brainer with the dividend news. Still hold way more shares than I should be.
 
Sold off the new UWMC I bought last week for a 7.5% gain. That was pretty much a no brainer with the dividend news. Still hold way more shares than I should be.
What'd I miss on this?

They were keeping the same strong dividend in place. Numbers were decent for the quarter. Stock price took a major dump for no real reason. In my opinion, it was pretty obvious that people would come back to pick up the dividend.
 
My boss is a coin nerd who loves nothing more than bidding on coins at online auctions. Neat, huh?

Anyhow, he's been trying to buy 1oz US Silver Eagles that are slabbed and being auctioned off. These aren't rare, they're hold nothing of value over spot other than being mint and slabbed. They ordinarily would go for a few bucks over spot price in an auction. He's been bidding 150% on these coins and getting shut out. Insanity. These are the sort of coins that if you had them and needed to sell would fetch you roughly $31.50 (spot price of silver today). And people around the world are bidding 150-160% premiums to 'win' these.
He should be selling his collection. :moneybag: :moneybag:
He recently sold some Chinese gold coins for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Had to help him package those up and ship them and let me tell you, taking something worth more than your house and car and possessions into a courier is a tad on the daunting side.
 
My boss is a coin nerd who loves nothing more than bidding on coins at online auctions. Neat, huh?

Anyhow, he's been trying to buy 1oz US Silver Eagles that are slabbed and being auctioned off. These aren't rare, they're hold nothing of value over spot other than being mint and slabbed. They ordinarily would go for a few bucks over spot price in an auction. He's been bidding 150% on these coins and getting shut out. Insanity. These are the sort of coins that if you had them and needed to sell would fetch you roughly $31.50 (spot price of silver today). And people around the world are bidding 150-160% premiums to 'win' these.
He should be selling his collection. :moneybag: :moneybag:
He recently sold some Chinese gold coins for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Had to help him package those up and ship them and let me tell you, taking something worth more than your house and car and possessions into a courier is a tad on the daunting side.
Were you handcuffed to a briefcase at any point during this transaction?
 
My boss is a coin nerd who loves nothing more than bidding on coins at online auctions. Neat, huh?

Anyhow, he's been trying to buy 1oz US Silver Eagles that are slabbed and being auctioned off. These aren't rare, they're hold nothing of value over spot other than being mint and slabbed. They ordinarily would go for a few bucks over spot price in an auction. He's been bidding 150% on these coins and getting shut out. Insanity. These are the sort of coins that if you had them and needed to sell would fetch you roughly $31.50 (spot price of silver today). And people around the world are bidding 150-160% premiums to 'win' these.
He should be selling his collection. :moneybag: :moneybag:
He recently sold some Chinese gold coins for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Had to help him package those up and ship them and let me tell you, taking something worth more than your house and car and possessions into a courier is a tad on the daunting side.
Were you handcuffed to a briefcase at any point during this transaction?

No, but I drove like I did the first time I took my oldest son home from the hospital.

By kids 4&5 I drove home like a burned-out pizza delivery man.
 
Nothing to see here
You don't often see an economic shock like the Atlanta GDP is reflecting.
Thinking about going ALL CASH

How long should I wait before doing so?
There he is!

I'm finally getting back into the market.

Dumb?

Did I miss the wave?

:shrug:

Todem

Did I get back into the market at the wrong time?

I just went 2/3 in.

:oldunsure:

Is NVDA a meme stonk now?
God no.

Hot stock? Yeah. But they are proving it on the top and bottom lines and future guidance and where we are in the "AI" cycle.

There is a bubble forming....no doubt. But NVDA are the ones selling all the pick axes in the gold rush if you get my drift.

What does a bubble forming mean exactly?

TIA

I'm just getting back into the market.

Is this a bad idea?

:shrug:

What would you consider to be Long Term?

TIA

3- 5 years?

:oldunsure:

Is it time to get out?

:shrug:

I mean this in the nicest way possible - you might just want to auto-invest into index funds and never log into your account, or hire someone.
Read lots of comments about cash percentage in here that have me wondering just how close to retirement some folks are. Cause missing a roaring 20% year in your mid 30s because of too much cash really can hurt in the long run.

Yeah I don't get the whole "well my options are cash or some yolo play". I'm probably guilty of not carrying enough debt but carrying cash isn't really a thought process for me.

I regret (not a lot) basically using my stock gainz to be mortgage free and car loan free with kids college done. I could be richer if I had leveraged more but, who says that?
Historically, I'd carry almost zero cash in my brokerage or retirement accounts. That's because, pre-2022, the risk-free rate was under 1% (at least in the accounts I hold). Now it's 4.3% at Vanguard. Back in the day when you could borrow at a ridiculous 3% or even lower, then yes we all should have / could have carried more debt. That strategy is long gone with mortgage rates hovering around 7%.
I'm 47. If I have regrets it was not keeping liquidity while rates were low.

I have no intention whatsoever to take on debt to invest. Just to be clear nor would I advocate that for anyone.
 
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My boss is a coin nerd who loves nothing more than bidding on coins at online auctions. Neat, huh?

Anyhow, he's been trying to buy 1oz US Silver Eagles that are slabbed and being auctioned off. These aren't rare, they're hold nothing of value over spot other than being mint and slabbed. They ordinarily would go for a few bucks over spot price in an auction. He's been bidding 150% on these coins and getting shut out. Insanity. These are the sort of coins that if you had them and needed to sell would fetch you roughly $31.50 (spot price of silver today). And people around the world are bidding 150-160% premiums to 'win' these.
He should be selling his collection. :moneybag: :moneybag:
He recently sold some Chinese gold coins for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Had to help him package those up and ship them and let me tell you, taking something worth more than your house and car and possessions into a courier is a tad on the daunting side.
Were you handcuffed to a briefcase at any point during this transaction?

"Hamburgers! The cornerstone of any nutritious Eat Off video."

Palest incarnation of Jules Winnfield ever.
 
My boss is a coin nerd who loves nothing more than bidding on coins at online auctions. Neat, huh?

Anyhow, he's been trying to buy 1oz US Silver Eagles that are slabbed and being auctioned off. These aren't rare, they're hold nothing of value over spot other than being mint and slabbed. They ordinarily would go for a few bucks over spot price in an auction. He's been bidding 150% on these coins and getting shut out. Insanity. These are the sort of coins that if you had them and needed to sell would fetch you roughly $31.50 (spot price of silver today). And people around the world are bidding 150-160% premiums to 'win' these.
He should be selling his collection. :moneybag: :moneybag:
He recently sold some Chinese gold coins for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Had to help him package those up and ship them and let me tell you, taking something worth more than your house and car and possessions into a courier is a tad on the daunting side.
Were you handcuffed to a briefcase at any point during this transaction?

"Hamburgers! The cornerstone of any nutritious Eat Off video."

Palest incarnation of Jules Winnfield ever.

Mind if I have a sip of your tasty beverage to wash this down?
 
Nothing to see here
You don't often see an economic shock like the Atlanta GDP is reflecting.
Thinking about going ALL CASH

How long should I wait before doing so?
There he is!

I'm finally getting back into the market.

Dumb?

Did I miss the wave?

:shrug:

Todem

Did I get back into the market at the wrong time?

I just went 2/3 in.

:oldunsure:

Is NVDA a meme stonk now?
God no.

Hot stock? Yeah. But they are proving it on the top and bottom lines and future guidance and where we are in the "AI" cycle.

There is a bubble forming....no doubt. But NVDA are the ones selling all the pick axes in the gold rush if you get my drift.

What does a bubble forming mean exactly?

TIA

I'm just getting back into the market.

Is this a bad idea?

:shrug:

What would you consider to be Long Term?

TIA

3- 5 years?

:oldunsure:

Is it time to get out?

:shrug:

I mean this in the nicest way possible - you might just want to auto-invest into index funds and never log into your account, or hire someone.
Read lots of comments about cash percentage in here that have me wondering just how close to retirement some folks are. Cause missing a roaring 20% year in your mid 30s because of too much cash really can hurt in the long run.

Yeah I don't get the whole "well my options are cash or some yolo play". I'm probably guilty of not carrying enough debt but carrying cash isn't really a thought process for me.

I regret (not a lot) basically using my stock gainz to be mortgage free and car loan free with kids college done. I could be richer if I had leveraged more but, who says that?
Historically, I'd carry almost zero cash in my brokerage or retirement accounts. That's because, pre-2022, the risk-free rate was under 1% (at least in the accounts I hold). Now it's 4.3% at Vanguard. Back in the day when you could borrow at a ridiculous 3% or even lower, then yes we all should have / could have carried more debt. That strategy is long gone with mortgage rates hovering around 7%.
Yeah...risk free rates are still ok. 4% where I am.....absolutely nothing wrong with having powder. I did say....building cash is prudent back in January.

We are going to have a choppy choppy market in 2025 and there will be opportunities for long term investors.
 
Nothing to see here
You don't often see an economic shock like the Atlanta GDP is reflecting.
Thinking about going ALL CASH

How long should I wait before doing so?
There he is!

I'm finally getting back into the market.

Dumb?

Did I miss the wave?

:shrug:

Todem

Did I get back into the market at the wrong time?

I just went 2/3 in.

:oldunsure:

Is NVDA a meme stonk now?
God no.

Hot stock? Yeah. But they are proving it on the top and bottom lines and future guidance and where we are in the "AI" cycle.

There is a bubble forming....no doubt. But NVDA are the ones selling all the pick axes in the gold rush if you get my drift.

What does a bubble forming mean exactly?

TIA

I'm just getting back into the market.

Is this a bad idea?

:shrug:

What would you consider to be Long Term?

TIA

3- 5 years?

:oldunsure:

Is it time to get out?

:shrug:

I mean this in the nicest way possible - you might just want to auto-invest into index funds and never log into your account, or hire someone.
Read lots of comments about cash percentage in here that have me wondering just how close to retirement some folks are. Cause missing a roaring 20% year in your mid 30s because of too much cash really can hurt in the long run.

Yeah I don't get the whole "well my options are cash or some yolo play". I'm probably guilty of not carrying enough debt but carrying cash isn't really a thought process for me.

I regret (not a lot) basically using my stock gainz to be mortgage free and car loan free with kids college done. I could be richer if I had leveraged more but, who says that?
Historically, I'd carry almost zero cash in my brokerage or retirement accounts. That's because, pre-2022, the risk-free rate was under 1% (at least in the accounts I hold). Now it's 4.3% at Vanguard. Back in the day when you could borrow at a ridiculous 3% or even lower, then yes we all should have / could have carried more debt. That strategy is long gone with mortgage rates hovering around 7%.
I'm 47. If I have regrets it was not keeping liquidity while rates were low.

I have no intention whatsoever to take on debt to invest. Just to be clear nor would I advocate that for anyone.
Heck no....never ever do that.

But when you can leverage at super lows rates like we had way back when......you were able to build cash and invest while you financed large purchases for almost nothing or 0%.

I always do the 0% for 5 years on big ticket items like furniture or appliances......no brainer.

The only debt I have is my home and a small car loan now (got that new Z and that will be paid off in 18 more months at 3.9%).
 
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Count on tomorrow being the end of the correction, just made some 3x Bear buys. Last time I did this I rode them to a huge loss.
You guys want me to double down or wait until you get you piles of cash invested.

The good news is that I fat fingered one of the buys and bought the 3x Bull TQQQ instead of SQQQ. At least that's not as bad as the time I margined my MIL to the tune of a quarter million dollars buying 100 shares of $2500+ Amazon.
 
Bought a little STOXX EUAD and TSLA today

Love it when the new kids are up on Day 1


Sorry, wrong symbol
 
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Count on tomorrow being the end of the correction, just made some 3x Bear buys. Last time I did this I rode them to a huge loss.
You guys want me to double down or wait until you get you piles of cash invested.

The good news is that I fat fingered one of the buys and bought the 3x Bull TQQQ instead of SQQQ. At least that's not as bad as the time I margined my MIL to the tune of a quarter million dollars buying 100 shares of $2500+ Amazon.
You taking on any new clients? I like the cut of your jib.
 
I've stayed 80+% in the market here because it's 10-12 years until retirement.

That being said, I'm feeling a lot better about how much money we paid toward our brand-new 6% mortgage in recent months rather than investing it. Saving a ton in interest.
 
Just heard a stat that the Russell 2000 is flat over the last 4 years. Really down 30% if you take inflation into account. Not really sure what to make of that other than mega caps are running rampant over the rest of the market.
 
Just heard a stat that the Russell 2000 is flat over the last 4 years. Really down 30% if you take inflation into account. Not really sure what to make of that other than mega caps are running rampant over the rest of the market.
Funny you say that cause I just started a position in a small cap value/blend fund
 
Just heard a stat that the Russell 2000 is flat over the last 4 years. Really down 30% if you take inflation into account. Not really sure what to make of that other than mega caps are running rampant over the rest of the market.

Part of this is when a Russell stock grows a lot, it leaves the Russell (because it stopped being a small cap) and continues growing in another index so the Russell doesn’t capture the full gains.
 
Been hearing folks touting the small caps for years, that they are poised to play catch up. They never do. I’ve never invested in a small cap focused ETF.
 
Been hearing folks touting the small caps for years, that they are poised to play catch up. They never do. I’ve never invested in a small cap focused ETF.
I wouldn’t invest in an index small cap etf or fund. I want someone who picks companies in that arena.
Agreed, but I prefer a systemic approach rather than stock picking. Look at funds from Dimensional or Avantis if you do want to invest in factors like small cap or value, as they add a quality screen. IWM isn’t the way to get smart exposure in that space, imho.

ETA: Merriman just updated their recommended ETFs page. A good place to start your research. https://www.paulmerriman.com/best-in-class-etf-recommendations-2025
 

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