Stone Case Prosecutors (1 Viewer)

[SaintsInDome2006]

>>Judge Jackson: “He was not prosecuted, as some have claimed, for standing up for the president. He was prosecuted for covering up for the president.”<<

 

[squistion]

Now all the good things about Roger, for balance:

and fought for same sex marriage,

I am surprised that would be considered a mitigating factor in any criminal trial.

 

[Henry Ford]

Judge Jackson says one member of the public wrote to her ahead of Stone's sentencing to ask that she not silence a voice in the public arena. “That will not be an element of this sentence in any way. I expect he will keep talking.”

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

>>ABJ says, she is concerned that 7-9 years is greater than necessary. And would have thought so regardless of the sentencing memo chaos.
...ABJ says she now has to weigh “the disparity between the two recommendations I have in front of me,” the inflated nature of the guidelines, and many other factors. Says it's very difficult to balance them all.<<

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

>>ABJ calls Trump’s comments on the case “entirely inappropriate,” she will not be influenced by them. But she will not hold them against Stone either. Also says she will not be influenced by pressure from the left from those who want a stiffer sentence.
“The defendant lied about a matter of great national and international significance. This is not campaign hijinks. This is not just Roger being Roger.” “There was nothing unfair, phony, or disgraceful about the investigation or the prosecution."<<

 

[sho nuff]

>>“The government’s initial memorandum was thorough, well-researched and supported,” in concordance with the record and DOJ policy. “Any suggestion that the prosecutors in this case did anything untoward” is incorrect.<<

Ahh...so we will hear an apology from Trump and Barr...and those who supported them over these prosecutors any minute...right?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

It should be noted that Mr. Free Speech, Won’t Be Silenced, Roger Stone was invited to speak.

He declined.

 

[Henry Ford]

Anyone have any guesses on what's coming?  I'm flummoxed. 

 

[Henry Ford]

Whoop.  There we go.  40 months.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Whoop.  There we go.  40 months.

Seems like a good ruling.  

 

[Amused to Death]

Whoop.  There we go.  40 months.

And a pardon in 9 months.

 

[Joe Summer]

40 months is quite a bit lower than I expected. I thought it would be in the 6-7 year range.

 

[Henry Ford]

This photo contains Lee Atwater and felons who were sentenced to roughly 11 years in prison.

https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/manafort-roger-stone-gty-hb-181017_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg

 

[rockaction]

This photo contains Lee Atwater and felons who were sentenced to roughly 11 years in prison.

https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/manafort-roger-stone-gty-hb-181017_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg

The guy in the middle looks like Tom Wolfe.

Atwater is responsible for an uneasy coalition that finally broke in 2016 and gave us Trump. From one to another, I guess. 

 

[BigJim®]

And a pardon in 9 months.

I think 9 minutes will be closer. Suspect that the recent spree of pardons was nothing but smokescreen for immediate pardon of Stone. It would have looked off it was just Stone out of the blue without a recent track record.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I don’t have any great insight into what the appropriate sentence would be. I expected a mild departure downward from whatever the minimum on the recommended range came out to. Berman departed a bit more than that. From what’s been posted, she obviously took great care to build a careful record. Hard to ask for more than that. 

 

[msommer]

And a pardon in 9 months.

Maximum

 

[Henry Ford]

The guy in the middle looks like Tom Wolfe.

Atwater is responsible for an uneasy coalition that finally broke in 2016 and gave us Trump. From one to another, I guess. 

The guy in the middle is Roger Stone.

 

[rockaction]

The guy in the middle is Roger Stone.

Well then. Color me flabbergasted.

He looks really good right now. 

 

[Henry Ford]

Well then. Color me flabbergasted.

He looks really good right now. 

I can only imagine this is the first time anyone other than his wife has ever said this about Roger Stone.

 

[rockaction]

I can only imagine this is the first time anyone other than his wife has ever said this about Roger Stone.

Eh, I was simply heightening the irony of his detainment and incarceration.

Lookin' good, Rog!  

 

[Mookie]

Stone, Cohen, Manafort, Gates, Flynn, ....  And still, the needle doesn't shift.  How is this corruption acceptable?  

 

[Amused to Death]

I think 9 minutes will be closer. Suspect that the recent spree of pardons was nothing but smokescreen for immediate pardon of Stone. It would have looked off it was just Stone out of the blue without a recent track record.

I was giving him till after the election, but by the end of the day wouldn't shock any of us either.

 

[msommer]

Stone, Cohen, Manafort, Gates, Flynn, ....  And still, the needle doesn't shift.  How is this corruption acceptable?  

WITCH HUNT!!! DEEP STATE!!!

 

[Henry Ford]

Stone, Cohen, Manafort, Gates, Flynn, ....  And still, the needle doesn't shift.  How is this corruption acceptable?  

"Owning the libs by sending all of our political operatives to prison."

 

[whoknew]

And a pardon in 9 months.

9 months? 9 days.

 

[CentralPA]

The guy in the middle looks like Tom Wolfe.

Atwater is responsible for an uneasy coalition that finally broke in 2016 and gave us Trump. From one to another, I guess. 

PA Governor?

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Whoop.  There we go.  40 months.

5 and 1/2 months per felony. Seems light even if he were Santa Claus.

 

[Henry Ford]

5 and 1/2 months per felony. Seems light even if he were Santa Claus.

Yeah, I'm not ecstatic with it but it's definitely better than I'd feared.  He was at a guideline of 70-87 months and got 40, apparently because he rescues dogs?

 

[Sheriff Bart]

He deserves it for repeatedly lying about and verbally torturing the parents whose children were murdered, alone. 

 

[urbanhack]

Whoop.  There we go.  40 months.

Rikers?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Whoop.  There we go.  40 months.

To be clear, it’s 5 years, 4 months, + $20,000 fine. Two years of the 5 yrs 4 mos is on probation.

 

[Henry Ford]

To be clear, it’s 5 years, 4 months, + $20,000 fine. Two years of the 5 yrs 4 mos is on probation.

Gotcha.  Thanks.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Judge Nap explaining to Fox that now he’s heard from the judge yeah the motion for new trial is not happening.

 

[Sam Quentin]

3-4 years in jail instead of 7-9

Trumpkins vindicated

 

[rockaction]

PA Governor?

Author. Thomas Wolfe is Look Homeward, Angel and Tom Wolfe is The Bonfire Of The Vanities

 

[CentralPA]

Author. Thomas Wolfe is Look Homeward, Angel and Tom Wolfe is The Bonfire Of The Vanities

Oh, those book things that you can read.  Got it

 

[rockaction]

Oh, those book things that you can read.  Got it

Gone Gonzo, I see. 

 

[sho nuff]

3-4 years in jail instead of 7-9

Trumpkins vindicated

Vindicated?  How so...did you read the judge's comments?  The judge pretty much refuted Trump and Barr's claims about the DOJ and sentencing reccomendation.

 

[Sam Quentin]

Vindicated?  How so...did you read the judge's comments?  The judge pretty much refuted Trump and Barr's claims about the DOJ and sentencing reccomendation.

After her blathering about all of that she went ahead and did what Barr thought was the right decision.

 

[sho nuff]

After her blathering about all of that she went ahead and did what Barr thought was the right decision.

Blathering?  You mean admonishing the AG and POTUS?

Also...the lawyer guys can chime in on how often a sentence will be less than the rec by prosecution.

But calling this vindication seems to be quite illogical.

 

[Sand]

Whoop.  There we go.  40 months.

Seems to be in the reasonable range.

Have we gotten a ruling or indication what's going to happen with the jury tampering from the head juror?  That seemed to be pretty blatant.

 

[FBG Moderator]

WITCH HUNT!!! DEEP STATE!!!

TROLL LESS.

if you don't think you're trolling, find a new board. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

After her blathering about all of that she went ahead and did what Barr thought was the right decision.

Jackson agreed with the guidelines recommendations. The sentence was (jail & probation) 5 years, 4 months, and a fine. Stone’s lawyers argued for lying only, roughly 1.5 years, and no jail time. Barr’s replacement team said in court they agreed with the original sentencing recommendation.

 

[Nipsey]

Trump already going after the jury foreman. Very presidential.

 

[sho nuff]

Trump already going after the jury foreman. Very presidential.

Why not...what consequences will he face?  Courts cant touch him...congress won’t and he is still the odds on favorite to win the election.  His supporters not only don’t seem to be bothered by this behavior...but think he is right and cheer it on.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

So how long until Stone is released and can go back to terrifying the residence of Toontown?

 

[Sheriff Bart]

May be the fastest pardon in US history. 

Trump says Roger Stone has 'very good chance of exoneration' hours after sentencing

*sigh* :(

 

[The Z Machine]

I think POTUS is using a different definition for "exoneration" than the common definition.

 

[Rove!]

>>Judge Jackson: “He was not prosecuted, as some have claimed, for standing up for the president. He was prosecuted for covering up for the president.”<<

A statement like this makes me question if she understands this case at all.  The whole case was about Stone pretending to be a bigger player than he actually was.  There was no collusion and nothing to cover up....