matuski
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Held 7 bad opponents to 20 or less with 4 under 13 and a shutout mixed in last year
4 of first 5 draft picks on D.
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**Streaming Defense 2015** Week 15 - Playoffs: No time to get cute (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Insein
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4 of first 5 draft picks on D.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
I likewise missed out on the 'Phins. Gonna use the Jets week 1, then scramble for an alternative for weeks 2 & 3 (Jets play Colts & Eagles those weeks). I should've landed Dolphins...got too cute at the end of the draft. A solid 6 week DST is likely worth more than 90% of the last 3 Rd flyers most of us take.
Insein
Footballguy
JaxBill
Footballguy
Jags offense might not be Top 10, but there should be enough changes to get it to average / slightly below average.
New RT/Center with last year's starters now depth.. New OC. Much deeper at RB with Yeldon, Gerhart looks healthier, and the addition of Pierce at the back end.
Even with Julius Thomas dinged, Bortles looks very comfortable making quick throws to Marcedes and Harbor.
I'd be concentrating on offenses with instability/significant injuries to the OL:
TB
OAK
WAS
NYG
CHI
New RT/Center with last year's starters now depth.. New OC. Much deeper at RB with Yeldon, Gerhart looks healthier, and the addition of Pierce at the back end.
Even with Julius Thomas dinged, Bortles looks very comfortable making quick throws to Marcedes and Harbor.
I'd be concentrating on offenses with instability/significant injuries to the OL:
TB
OAK
WAS
NYG
CHI
Well, my usually strategy of streaming Ds is out the window.
In one heavy FBG league, I waited until the 17th/18th rounds of a 20 rounder (kicker in 19th, James Starks as a flyer in 20). I actually love the two Ds I got, NE and Ariz. When NE is on bye Arizona (@home) plays St. Louis. It is week 4, so I don't think Gurley will be that effective yet, so I like that match up a lot. In week 9, NE (@home) plays Washington when Arizona is on a bye. Week 7 is a tough match up (based on 2014) for Arizona and NE (@home) has the Jets. Week 12 is tough for NE (@Den) and Arizona plays @SF. Championship week 16 has a bad match up for Arizona (@home vs. GB) and NE has the Jets again. Actually, NE in weeks 14-16 is Houston, Tenn and NYJ. Probably ignoring Arizona at that point (Minn, Phi, GB).
Anyway, NE/Arizona isn't bad at all. You can also still pickup other teams to fill in the few weeks where neither has a great match up. There are only 3 weeks where both have average match ups according to DD and one is NE against Houston, which is better than last year's numbers. I drafted them as the 8th and 9th defenses. To give you an idea of who I passed up at this point: Josh Gordon (keeper thoughts), Juwan Thompson, Jordan Reed, Marqise Lee, Cole Beasley, Tyler Lockett and Jared Cook went after my NE pick (I took Ariz 2 picks after). I think it will pay dividends even though I got them so late.
My other draft on Sunday doesn't count. I took Seattle as the first D (7.10). You are limited to 20 transactions (new rule this year) with a small roster (15 for 9 starters), so streaming is pretty much out of the question with bye weeks. I have a decent roster but I took Foster for future, so I may be making RB moves early and I don't want to drop good players for a one week D. I will probably try to stream if I find one of my backups is crap, but I took Seattle with a week 9 bye as a set it and forget it so I could solidify the haves/have nots on the roster by the time I get to needing a D for week 9. I hated having to make that pick that early, but it did start a D run since people realized why I did it (I said so after the pick). If you have a crappy D, you are literally stuck with it or you are using a bunch of transactions. I really hate the new rule. I am a high transaction guy.
In one heavy FBG league, I waited until the 17th/18th rounds of a 20 rounder (kicker in 19th, James Starks as a flyer in 20). I actually love the two Ds I got, NE and Ariz. When NE is on bye Arizona (@home) plays St. Louis. It is week 4, so I don't think Gurley will be that effective yet, so I like that match up a lot. In week 9, NE (@home) plays Washington when Arizona is on a bye. Week 7 is a tough match up (based on 2014) for Arizona and NE (@home) has the Jets. Week 12 is tough for NE (@Den) and Arizona plays @SF. Championship week 16 has a bad match up for Arizona (@home vs. GB) and NE has the Jets again. Actually, NE in weeks 14-16 is Houston, Tenn and NYJ. Probably ignoring Arizona at that point (Minn, Phi, GB).
Anyway, NE/Arizona isn't bad at all. You can also still pickup other teams to fill in the few weeks where neither has a great match up. There are only 3 weeks where both have average match ups according to DD and one is NE against Houston, which is better than last year's numbers. I drafted them as the 8th and 9th defenses. To give you an idea of who I passed up at this point: Josh Gordon (keeper thoughts), Juwan Thompson, Jordan Reed, Marqise Lee, Cole Beasley, Tyler Lockett and Jared Cook went after my NE pick (I took Ariz 2 picks after). I think it will pay dividends even though I got them so late.
My other draft on Sunday doesn't count. I took Seattle as the first D (7.10). You are limited to 20 transactions (new rule this year) with a small roster (15 for 9 starters), so streaming is pretty much out of the question with bye weeks. I have a decent roster but I took Foster for future, so I may be making RB moves early and I don't want to drop good players for a one week D. I will probably try to stream if I find one of my backups is crap, but I took Seattle with a week 9 bye as a set it and forget it so I could solidify the haves/have nots on the roster by the time I get to needing a D for week 9. I hated having to make that pick that early, but it did start a D run since people realized why I did it (I said so after the pick). If you have a crappy D, you are literally stuck with it or you are using a bunch of transactions. I really hate the new rule. I am a high transaction guy.
TZMarkie
Footballguy
The same old after draft dark thoughts have set in.
It happens every year for me. (I won't post my team here unless its really called for)
But the reason I even came in to post, was something very odd happened in my draft, when it came to defenses.
Seattle goes off the board in the final slot of round 8. LOL.
Then in round 9 things went haywire.
Houston, Buffalo and Philly all went off the board.
The the run stopped. I was sort of surprised, but I said I will get Miami in the 14th.
13th round- Arizona, Baltimore, Green Bay all went.
In the 14th, I was sitting there looking at St. Louis, INDY, Miami and a few others of note, but none considered "top tier".
If you had a choice, which would you take?
(note- I am of the streaming mind, but if I can land a good startable one each week, then I am all for that)
TZM
It happens every year for me. (I won't post my team here unless its really called for)
But the reason I even came in to post, was something very odd happened in my draft, when it came to defenses.
Seattle goes off the board in the final slot of round 8. LOL.
Then in round 9 things went haywire.
Houston, Buffalo and Philly all went off the board.
The the run stopped. I was sort of surprised, but I said I will get Miami in the 14th.
13th round- Arizona, Baltimore, Green Bay all went.
In the 14th, I was sitting there looking at St. Louis, INDY, Miami and a few others of note, but none considered "top tier".
If you had a choice, which would you take?
(note- I am of the streaming mind, but if I can land a good startable one each week, then I am all for that)
TZM
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Cutler has been handing the football over the GB via interceptions and fumbles for years. Regardless as to whether its home or away, he's a sure bet to turn the ball over multiple times.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Only 15 DSTs got drafted in my long time league. Tasty WW:
DEN
NYJ
(I know, right?)
CLE
MIN
DAL
CIN
PIT
First Waiver is Thursday. Might drop one (Torrey, Reuben, Flacco or Crowell) to load up. Jets @ home V. Browns should be good, no?
ETA: I have the Panthers
DEN
NYJ
(I know, right?)
CLE
MIN
DAL
CIN
PIT
First Waiver is Thursday. Might drop one (Torrey, Reuben, Flacco or Crowell) to load up. Jets @ home V. Browns should be good, no?
ETA: I have the Panthers
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Stealthycat
Footballguy
Philly / Buffalo / MIA
my top 3 Defenses
my top 3 Defenses
TZMarkie
Footballguy
OK, I've waited long enough.
I ended up going STL in the draft, but I am regretting that decision. (as a fluke, TWO teams got second defenses in the final round, which caused me to NOT get Miami or Indy)
I'm not liking STL facing Seattle in week 1, and to make it tougher I am starting Russell Wilson.
So the best of the lot on the wire is.................... MIN, CLE , TB .
I really like MIN vs. SF in week 1, but the best of this is probably CLE that plays the Jets, then it gets good with TEN and OAK at home.
I am leaning towards picking up CLE and rolling that way for a few weeks, thoughts streamers???
Obviously this would require dropping STL, which to me looks seriously overrated going into the season.
TZM
I ended up going STL in the draft, but I am regretting that decision. (as a fluke, TWO teams got second defenses in the final round, which caused me to NOT get Miami or Indy)
I'm not liking STL facing Seattle in week 1, and to make it tougher I am starting Russell Wilson.
So the best of the lot on the wire is.................... MIN, CLE , TB .
I really like MIN vs. SF in week 1, but the best of this is probably CLE that plays the Jets, then it gets good with TEN and OAK at home.
I am leaning towards picking up CLE and rolling that way for a few weeks, thoughts streamers???
Obviously this would require dropping STL, which to me looks seriously overrated going into the season.
TZM
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Captain Hook
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Can't argue with great of a matchup Oak was last year. I think they have jumped a few teams though.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
For those in best ball, how about the 2 Ds in the rookie QB matchup?
Insein
Footballguy
I'm rolling with TB at home this week. Bit of a reach but best of what was available.
TZMarkie
Footballguy
I thought seriously about getting TB, and I still am.
I ended up dropping STL and got Cleveland in that one big league I am in. (STL's schedule is too tough early)
But I may take the TB crew yet and hop aboard that train.
Geesh, every time I think of TB now, I think of that horror show they put up vs. ATL last year in one of those night games.
I have to get that outta my head, and realize this is a new year.
In brighter news, in my "oldest league" I got INDY last night in round 15 of 16.
Miami was swiped by a Miami homer just a few picks before me, but I am content with INDY.
2 more drafts tonight, still trying to get Miami somewhere if I can~!
TZM
kutta
Footballguy
I loaded up everywhere on the Jets D for week 1. I'll figure out week 2 later.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Missed NYJ on the first waivers. Picked up DEN to roll with them after week 1, think I'll start out with Panthers @ JAX.
Broncos have 4 decent matchups Weeks 2-5 then the bye. Not as confident in them post bye week.
oldmanhawkins
Footballguy
The team that jumps out to me is the Raiders, but the lack of chatter here makes me a bit nervous...what am I missing?
Oakland's D was their strength last year, held back by a putrid offense that is likely to improve at least a bit.
Meanwhile, they add Mack and Edwards via the draft, Dan Williams/Curtis Lofton up the middle. I'm not sure whether Del Rio is a positive or a negative - at least he's defensive minded and had some success on the defensive side of the ball.
I almost forgot to mention that they are one of the few defenses available that are at home against a below average QB.
Oakland's D was their strength last year, held back by a putrid offense that is likely to improve at least a bit.
Meanwhile, they add Mack and Edwards via the draft, Dan Williams/Curtis Lofton up the middle. I'm not sure whether Del Rio is a positive or a negative - at least he's defensive minded and had some success on the defensive side of the ball.
I almost forgot to mention that they are one of the few defenses available that are at home against a below average QB.
Insein
Footballguy
If they weren't already drafted in my homer leagues hell yea! Lots of sacks and playing from behind should lead to turnovers. And then there's special teams which is always a threat to take it to the house ateast once a game.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
The more competitive the league the less likely you are to pull this off as others do it.
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Insein
Footballguy
Agreed. I'm hoping not too many others caught on. It didn't seem it as people drafted the standard ranked teams in order in rounds 11-15
TZMarkie
Footballguy
Well, lets be fair. 6 points seems a bit fluky high to me.
Trust me I am not taking anything away from what Insein did at all, but can you depend on that every year, I think not.
Now, on a more realistic note, perhaps we could average possibly 3 points more a week??????? That is still a gargantuan edge in the overall scheme of things.
(You dont believe it??? OK , you draft, and stow away a defense sir. Let me add in another flier at WR or RB who may well explode, and last but not least pick your poison at defense, because I will stream my way to 3 more points a week, and have that flier to boot~!!)
The only real appropriate way to try and gauge effectiveness, is to track it for a few years.
Hell, that doesn't even take into consideration one important factor.................
One manager may be more adept at picking the correct streamer week to week as well!
Interesting stuff.
TZM
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
I loaded up on Carolina with my last pick. They have a great first two games.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Going Browns for the opening 3 weeks.
TZMarkie
Footballguy
Any notes on the Pats defense from someone who watched the game would be appreciated.
Had to miss the game tonight, sigh.........
FWIW- I am not high on the Pats defense. (though many in my leagues started them and didn't think twice) Drafted on name alone I suppose, which happens a lot.
Just curious if this is one I may be juggling and picking from later on in the year or not.
TZM
Had to miss the game tonight, sigh.........
FWIW- I am not high on the Pats defense. (though many in my leagues started them and didn't think twice) Drafted on name alone I suppose, which happens a lot.
Just curious if this is one I may be juggling and picking from later on in the year or not.
TZM
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
they looked really bad. 2 missed fgs and a few timely stops saved them from a really bad outing
I'm playing them, and I have Ryan/Julio. Basically banking on a shootout with some big turn overs/plays to make them useful. I should forewarn that most times, my gut is terrible and I really should stop listening to it.
That was one of the best Os they will play. DeAngelo looked good and while the Pats D wasn't good I still think they will be fine when they are playing lesser teams. I have AZ and NE and this week was one of a couple weeks that both had not so good match ups. That said still 3 sacks and an INT so not a horrible game.
Oakland had the worst scoring defense in the NFL last year, and the worst fantasy defense by traditional scoring as well. They've got some pieces they can build around, but that's about all that can be said for them at this point.
JaxBill
Footballguy
Their pass rush is not good and Ben had 5-6 seconds at times to throw at times and the Steelers desperately miss Martavis Bryant.. The injury to Dominique Easley is something to monitor.
They aren't a great D, but 3 sacks a game is 1 below the #2 sack team in 2014. NE was #13 with 40 sacks last year, so it seems like they have a decent pass rush. I know they were missing Bryant, but Ben still had 351 yard passing and DWill got some really nice blocking. Again, NE has a lot of nice games and I expect them to be a decent D fantasy wise. Of course, if I didn't have so many slots to cover the Dallas RBs and my issues at RB2, I likely would have picked up a 3rd D for this week (I have AZ as well, they match up with NE well).
RealReactions
Footballguy
i would be skeptical of them. i see them losing to the jags this week straight up to a score of something like 21-17
jurrassic
Footballguy
I am starting Carolina in two leagues but I agree with being skeptical. The Jags are improved from last year on offense. Also have to consider the fact that the potential ineptitude of the Carolina offense puts their defense on the field more than most. I considered Indy as well but Buffalo may throw the ball a total of 15 times all game. That doesn't lend itself to very many sacks, turnovers, etc. Tempted to drop Carolina for KC who plays Houston
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RealReactions
Footballguy
I have KC as my starting d now. Luckily my league doesn't give defense a lot of points unless they get shutouts or a lot of turnovers and tds so wide rather just ride with kc and hope they get back to 2013 form
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
For those with slim pickens this week, I just noticed this blurb:
USA Today: Tampa Bay Buccaneers QB Jameis Winston faces a brutal history when he faces Tennessee Titans assistant head coach/defense **** LeBeau in Week 1. Since 1995, rookie quarterbacks are 3-26 with 24 touchdowns and 37 interceptions against his defenses.
RealReactions
Footballguy
That was when he was with Pit. I get he has great schemes and all but Tennessee is just awful on defense. Good luck if you choose them!Leroy Hoard said:
