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Streaming or currently airing TV shows (AKA Netflix thread) (11 Viewers)

Just started "Undone" . Very deep. Intriguing . Like Groundhog day on LSD.
Spoilers through episode 4

 I think it will turn out that her dad is bad. He is making her do something or open something that is not good for her or mankind.

Also think the mom and the sister are good, trying to keep her in reality. Not sure on Sam yet.
But is it reality" Her imagination? Her Dad's imagination? A dream? Last thought before dying? Don't know.
All I know I need to keep watching it and then watch it at least one more after finding out how it ends.
It...is...a...trip
 
OK, I loved the movie The Dark Crystal. So I felt I owed it to myself to watch the series.

I think that the series is doing a solid job of playing off the lore, and the world, of the original film, and staying loyal to the tone. Puppetry and CGI make it much better simply because of the tech difference between now and 1982.

I am digging getting back into that world, but even I can say there is nothing truly compelling from a story line making this much watch.

I'll still go through it because I enjoy it enough as a diversion, but can see why this is a slog as the there is nothing that I can say I am drawn to from the storyline. 

 
Not a Netflix show..but I've been pleasantly surprised by Yellowstone. Give it a shot if you need something new.
Watched maybe the first 5 episodes.

Minuses: The 2 good characters are revealed early, and all the bad stuff happens to them. Few likeable characters.

Pluses: Main characters well-acted. Kelly Reilly drinks all the time and gets nekkid a lot.

 
Found no mentions of this miniseries anywhere in the forum, and I don't know where (or if) it is or will be broadcast again, but here goes.

Funland (2005)

British show. Police detective goes to Blackpool to find out who killed his mother, arrives naked and broke,  gets a job with a strip club involved with criminals, run by a seedy family. An awkward young couple arrive in Blackpool for a "getaway" and end up in a seedy hotel run by seedier people. All things go downhill from there, consistently, and you can't tell where it's headed. Reminded me more than a bit of a Coen brothers story. Very well done, will probably watch it again in 6 months or so.

Daniel Mays is the detective; Sarah Smart is the awkward wife who ends up stripping, Judy Parfitt plays one of the most despicable characters you'll encounter.

 
OK, I loved the movie The Dark Crystal. So I felt I owed it to myself to watch the series.

I think that the series is doing a solid job of playing off the lore, and the world, of the original film, and staying loyal to the tone. Puppetry and CGI make it much better simply because of the tech difference between now and 1982.

I am digging getting back into that world, but even I can say there is nothing truly compelling from a story line making this much watch.

I'll still go through it because I enjoy it enough as a diversion, but can see why this is a slog as the there is nothing that I can say I am drawn to from the storyline. 
Surprised nobody here likes it. I haven’t watched it yet but the reviews seem to be extremely positive. 

 
Thoughts on "Undone" ending

The car crash was fatal. The whole season was her last thoughts before she died. 

The light at the ending was not her dad coming out of the cave, but him signaling her to enter.

Brilliant show must watch again 
 
OK, I loved the movie The Dark Crystal. So I felt I owed it to myself to watch the series.

I think that the series is doing a solid job of playing off the lore, and the world, of the original film, and staying loyal to the tone. Puppetry and CGI make it much better simply because of the tech difference between now and 1982.

I am digging getting back into that world, but even I can say there is nothing truly compelling from a story line making this much watch.

I'll still go through it because I enjoy it enough as a diversion, but can see why this is a slog as the there is nothing that I can say I am drawn to from the storyline. 
I wasn't all that into the movie but thought I might like the show. From what y'all have said, I'll be skipping it.

Currently watching the I-land.  And can't stop myself. It's not good but I am entertained. 

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/09/8418253/the-i-land-netflix-twitter-reactions

 
Watched “Screwball” sort of a documentary about the ARod and his steroid “doc”. Really entertaining if you are even remotely interested in this. Well made.

 
Worst show I have ever watched. I couldn't stop watching. What a train wreck.
We watched another with our 12yo son last night. It reminds me of that god-awful space thing with Starbuck from Battlestar Galactica reboot- millennial whiney party. It's impressive just how terrible the writing is here..acting forced to follow close behind. 

 
Been watching Frontera Verde on Netflix here and there after the wife goes to sleep. Mystery/thriller and lots more set in the Colombian Amazon... I don't want to give anything away- pretty great stuff.

 
Got through about 5 episodes of Mad Men. I'm not really feeling it, the excessive misogyny and smoking is a bit off putting. I've heard such good things, I think I'll power through the first season but unless there is a major turn around I'll likely stop there.  :kicksrock:

 
Got through about 5 episodes of Mad Men. I'm not really feeling it, the excessive misogyny and smoking is a bit off putting. I've heard such good things, I think I'll power through the first season but unless there is a major turn around I'll likely stop there.  :kicksrock:
The characters aren't just flawed, they're genuinely unlikable.  Vastly overrated show, if you actually want to enjoy what you watch.

 
Got through about 5 episodes of Mad Men. I'm not really feeling it, the excessive misogyny and smoking is a bit off putting. I've heard such good things, I think I'll power through the first season but unless there is a major turn around I'll likely stop there.  :kicksrock:


The characters aren't just flawed, they're genuinely unlikable.  Vastly overrated show, if you actually want to enjoy what you watch.
Interesting. I know @Kraft... thru leagues and he's sharp and am aware enough of @facook to know he's not a blitherer. Do either of you like hero movies of other times, worlds?

 
Got through about 5 episodes of Mad Men. I'm not really feeling it, the excessive misogyny and smoking is a bit off putting. I've heard such good things, I think I'll power through the first season but unless there is a major turn around I'll likely stop there.  :kicksrock:
Part of the point of the show is to show what a different world it was back then. But they also let the woman characters develop and overcome the obstacles.

 


Interesting. I know @Kraft... thru leagues and he's sharp and am aware enough of @facook to know he's not a blitherer. Do either of you like hero movies of other times, worlds?
saintfool is correct, and that was the one aspect of the show that I DID enjoy.  I don't even mind unlikable characters if there is more of them to appreciate why they are the way they are and it makes sense (Tony S, Walter White, Saul, etc).  I supposed they tried that but ultimately what stood out to me was that they were all miserable, depressed, and difficult to root for.  The exceptions being Peggy and Sterling and Cooper but even the first two were more villain than hero to me.

I do wikkid.  Are you saying that is what MM is?  Or an anti-hero show of another time?

ETA: I'm probably coloring Peggy, Sterling, and Cooper too darkly due to my overall dislike of the show by the end.  In the moment, I did like those characters more than I'm allowing.  So I retract what I said - not EVERYONE was a miserable sob.  Just most of them.  :)  

 
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Definitely, yes, this one is just rubbing me the wrong way for some reason :shrug:  


saintfool is correct, and that was the one aspect of the show that I DID enjoy.  I don't even mind unlikable characters if there is more of them to appreciate why they are the way they are and it makes sense (Tony S, Walter White, Saul, etc).  I supposed they tried that but ultimately what stood out to me was that they were all miserable, depressed, and difficult to root for.  The exceptions being Peggy and Sterling and Cooper but even the first two were more villain than hero to me.

I do wikkid.  Are you saying that is what MM is?  Or an anti-hero show of another time?

ETA: I'm probably coloring Peggy, Sterling, and Cooper too darkly due to my overall dislike of the show by the end.  In the moment, I did like those characters more than I'm allowing.  So I retract what I said - not EVERYONE was a miserable sob.  Just most of them.  :)  
Can't argue taste. Mad Men is my favorite show of all time, but i don't need anyone else to agree.

It's just that i don't understand why violent & noble heroes are so much more palpable to modern audiences than the guys who actually put us where we are. i'm likely old enough to be each of y'all's father. My granddad volunteered to fight in WWI just to get off the frikkin farm in northern VT for a coupla years, but he couldn't make his way afterward and had to come back to the hill we'd farmed for 200 years. My father estimates that clearing an acre of land for planting required removing 10 tons of rock and that the turning of the remaining soil caused the cold to force up another ton of rock each winter to be cleared the next spring. The average winter temperature was below zero and my dad slept w his 7 bros in two beds in the attic, two floors above any heat source. When i was a kid i could slide out the farmhouse attic window on a paper bag because the entire west side of the house was a snow drift. No electricity, plumbing, entertainment other than that they could generate themselves, bellies usually full but no relief from pain

For 90% of America, life was similar to that, maybe worse in another country, for the gen who raised me,  just as it had been for 1000s of years before. Then there was another war that required participation of every soul in the land to win, guys got to see & save the world. When they got home, if they survived, they decided they weren't going back to that ####, they were getting their due and that was that. The GI Bill gave educations to those folks, business saw that these guys could making something outta nothing and that there was a beautiful dollar in that and let em go at it.

And they made up their own world. There was an awful lot of bull#### to it, the money was short end (my father invented the growlight in '63, a product with sales of $2.3 billion last we checked, and Sylvania gave him $150 bucks and a plaque and laid him off two years later), nobody really knew what they were doing but, if they even pretended they didn't it would all come tumbling down, so they did until it was real. My father was screwed over by corporate again & again, was made age-redundant 5 years before retirement, got screwed out of most of his pension deal by the bankruptcy of his last company, so the person who generated more wealth than any of the 100,000 people of his surname who've ever lived in this country closed his professional career as a substitute-teacher in special ed classes. He's 94 years old now and can't even remember mattering. He often talks about his great missed opportunity - an army buddy became the head of elevator operators at Rockefeller Plaza and offered my dad a job before he went to school on the GIBill. This buddy said you could pitch ideas to the broadcasting execs who'd ride your elevator and a bunch of his buds got TV/radio jobs by doing so.

I don't even like my ol' man, never really have. But everything i am is based on what he did, just as most people who read this forum are based on at least one someone like him. But those stories never get told because they're boring & weird. Matt Weiner found a way to tell the stories of those guys, that gen - ad men, sales managers for products that hadn't been invented quite yet, elevator operators turned junior writers for the Shecky Montalban Show - and their hope & fears & problems & diversions. It is the most existential program in the history of television (except, perhaps, the Shecky Montalban Show) and you two better go STRAIGHT to your televisions and watch every last episode it or you're going to bed without dinner, y'hear me?!?!

 
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Can't argue taste. Mad Men is my favorite show of all time, but i don't need anyone else to agree.

It's just that i don't understand why violent & noble heroes are so much more palpable to modern audiences than the guys who actually put us where we are. i'm likely old enough to be your father. My granddad volunteered to fight in WWI just to get off the frikkin farm in northern VT for a coupla years, but he couldn't make his way afterward and had to come back to the hill we'd farmed for 200 years. My father estimates that clearing an acre of land for planting required removing 10 tons of rock and that the turning of the remaining soil caused the cold to force up another ton of rock each winter to be cleared the next spring. The average winter temperature was below zero and my dad slept w his 7 bros in two beds in the attic, two floors above any heat source. When i was a kid i could slide out the farmhouse attic window on a paper bag because the entire west side of the house was a snow drift. No electricity, plumbing, entertainment other than that they could generate themselves, bellies usually full but no relief from pain

For 90% of America, life was similar to that, maybe worse in another country, for the gen who raised me,  just as it had been for 1000s of years before. Then there was another war that required participation of every soul in the land to win, guys got to see & save the world. When they got home, if they survived, they decided they weren't going back to that ####, they were getting their due and that was that. The GI Bill gave educations to those folks, business saw that these guys could making something outta nothing and that there was a beautiful dollar in that and let em go at it.

And they made up their own world. There was an awful lot of bull#### to it, the money was short end (my father invented the growlight in '63, a product with sales of $2.3 billion last we checked, and Sylvania gave him $150 bucks and a plaque and laid him off two years later), nobody really knew what they were doing but, if they even pretended they didn't it would all come tumbling down, so they did until it was real. My father was screwed over by corporate again & again, was made age-redundant 5 years before retirement, got screwed out of most of his pension deal by the bankruptcy of his last company, so the person who generated more wealth than any of the 100,000 people of his surname who've ever lived in this country closed his professional career as a substitute-teacher in special ed classes. He's 94 years old now and can't even remember mattering. He often talks about his great missed opportunity - an army buddy became the head of elevator operators at Rockefeller Plaza and offered my dad a job before he went to school on the GIBill. This buddy said you could pitch ideas to the broadcasting execs who'd ride your elevator and a bunch of his buds got TV/radio jobs by doing so.

I don't even like my ol' man, never really have. But everything i am is based on what he did, just as most people who read this forum are based on at least one someone like him. But those stories never get told because they're boring & weird. Matt Weiner found a way to tell the stories of those guys, that gen - ad men, sales managers for products that hadn't been invented quite yet, elevator operators turned junior writers for the Shecky Montalban Show - and their hope & fears & problems & diversions. It is the most existential program in the history of television (except, perhaps, the Shecky Montalban Show) and you two better go STRAIGHT to your televisions and watch every last episode it or you're going to bed without dinner, y'hear me?!?!
:deepbreath:

My dad was born 2nd of 9 in 1940, 8 survived.  Oldest brother of a bunch of itinerant pwt cotton pickers in CA, AZ, and AR.  My grandpa made my dad quit school in 8th grade to work in southern CA and AZ as a "crew leader" of family lawn mowers - while Grandpa disappeared during every job- for 3 years.  My Dad and the rest of his uneducated and invalid siblings cut the lawn and cleaned up afterwards.  Over and over.  My dad's ma, my Grandma Lucy, most religious of all of us, did her best to keep the home together.  

Last year, at age 78, at one of his sibling's funeral, while discussing their dad, my Aunt asked my Dad: "Franklin...you know why Dad was never around while we cut the lawn, right?"  Dad said no.  "He was always in bed with the lady of the house."  My Dad had a totally-movie moment of the whole world spinning around him, reliving his dad disappearing over and over, every time my dad led the crew, and always going into the ladies' homes.  In that moment, 50-something years after the fact, he realized his dad, my grandpa, was a serial philanderer.

At 17 my Dad moved to Oregon and finished high school at a small private high school, paying his own way while working at Safeway full time.   He graduated at 19.  He became a saw-filer at a lumber mill, and eventually started a small church as a pastor in the middle of nowhere Oregon, while driving school bus and delivering newspapers to make ends meet.  My Dad is the most sacrificial and merciful person I've ever known, even though sometimes he drives me crazy.  "everything i am is based on what he did, just as most people who read this forum are based on at least one someone like him. But those stories never get told because they're boring & weird. Matt Weiner found a way to tell the stories of those guys, that gen"  Everything I am is a result of my Dad, in some way.  Maybe this is why I hate that show.  Many people were hurt and experienced ####ty lives in that generation and still were good and decent people.  Maybe Weiner told the story of a few of them, the big-city of them, but the media and critics and historical-revisionists made it seem like it was the majority.  Maybe it wasn't.  Maybe those miserable, terrible people were the minority. 

 
Unbelievable is a great new perspective for crime drama.

Not for the faint of heart of sexual assault disturbs you.

 
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Undeniable is a great new perspective for crime drama. Not for the faint of heart of sexual assault disturbs you.
You mean Unbelievable?  I have watched 2 episodes of Unbelievable and it's quite good. Although they seem to want to portray all men as giant Richards.

 
You mean Unbelievable?  I have watched 2 episodes of Unbelievable and it's quite good. Although they seem to want to portray all men as giant Richards.
We wrapped this up a couple days ago... And to your point, it's pretty consistent throughout. I know some of our fellow FFAers have very thin skins regarding that kind of stuff, so fair warning .

But it's a good show, and aside from that point, written crisply, consistently and well (even the "unbelievable" young woman who maintains an incredibly frustrating persona...frustrating, but felt true). And the actors throughout put in really good shifts. 8 eps, good pacing, good arc...good show. It had me thinking a bit about mindhunters, in a good way.

 
  Everything I am is a result of my Dad, in some way.  Maybe this is why I hate that show.  Many people were hurt and experienced ####ty lives in that generation and still were good and decent people.  Maybe Weiner told the story of a few of them, the big-city of them, but the media and critics and historical-revisionists made it seem like it was the majority.  Maybe it wasn't.  Maybe those miserable, terrible people were the minority. 
Sounds like some broad shoulders you stand on.

The point i failed to make, apparently, is that the corporate culture upon which everything today is based was initially populated by guys with no legacy in that world. Farmboys, railroad & dock workers, grocery clerks & soda jerks became the first in their fam to go to school because of the GIBill and ended up toiling in highrises or suburban corporate plantations, filing reports, eating ####, swallowing their pride because there were mortgages, dues and community standards to keep up with now.

I said before that me Da was laid off two years after inventing the growlight for Sylvania. Fact is, the entire Research & Development department was closed because the guys had done their jobs too well, developed so many products (growlight, purple bug zapper  bulb, treatment lamps) that the company thought they could use the salaries of the guys who invented them toward product development & manufacture of the things they invented.

Thing is, me Da had just moved us out to the suburbs (me Ma was an urban immigrant and had preferred to stay close to fam until her husband "made" it) when they laid him off and simply couldn't afford to be redundant. He noticed that the company had just been sued by people who'd had bad skin reactions to some of the treatment lamps and that Sylvania had no safety & regulation protocols. So he sat at a typewriter and, with no business admin experience at all, designed a Product Safety Division for this major corporation (including, he claims, the first recall codes for shipping) in two weeks and submitted it in order to stay with the company and not have everything come crashing down on the homefront. Corporate approved it, rehired him, he ran the division for a while.

Soon as it became a thing, though, the BA sharks started circling it, licking their chops and carping to corporate that a science guy was running a department when there was all us lawyers & admins who could do it so much better. They made their case, but the big cheese couldnt cut my ol' man off at the knees again, so he let him keep the title, the office, but took ALL his duties away from him. So here's a guy who'd plowed fields, served his country, invented products and departments, (94yo now, he's still pissed if he can't get out in his apple orchard each fair day) all of a sudden a prisoner of his office, tapping his pencil all day to keep his ungrateful wife & kids in upgrades & Catholic School tuitions. Out of respect, i won't divulge his coping mechanisms & control dysfunctions from that.

Beyond the broad backs & bright minds, today's culture has as part of its foundation the guys who made their way out of irredeemable podunk towns, fetid slums to chase what dreams there were and ended up having to chow down on ####burgers & corpslaw from their companies in order to keep smiles on their families faces. And their story, the stuff upon which our present lives are based, as important as pilgrims or pioneers, didn't get told until the ultimate distillation of corporate life - guys selling naught but dreams to hard-working suckers - came along in Mad Men to put a dramtic & comedic face to those who had to choke back cheekful after cheekful of company flop and the ulcers that came with it. That's a hard story to tell and why i appreciate the so doing.

 
have you brohans watched absentia it is on amazonian prime and it is pretty good so far but i am only three of them in i am watching it at home alone because my lady has a project she is working on that keeps her in the other room at night so it is sort of filing in for my lady take that to the bank bromigos

 
We wrapped this up a couple days ago... And to your point, it's pretty consistent throughout. I know some of our fellow FFAers have very thin skins regarding that kind of stuff, so fair warning .

But it's a good show, and aside from that point, written crisply, consistently and well (even the "unbelievable" young woman who maintains an incredibly frustrating persona...frustrating, but felt true). And the actors throughout put in really good shifts. 8 eps, good pacing, good arc...good show. It had me thinking a bit about mindhunters, in a good way.
Looking forward to watching this one when I have time. A lot of the crimes occurred here in Denver and the surrounding suburbs/pocket communities. I remember reading all the articles and watching the news stories about it and without getting into spoilers its amazing how long it took the police to put the pieces together because of their inability to collaborate, their willful stubbornness or blindness to victims stories or failure to share information that I am sure the show will go into.

Edit: I know it's a fictionalized story based on the real events but the reviews have said they kept it very true to the real story/events.

 
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Looking forward to watching this one when I have time. A lot of the crimes occurred here in Denver and the surrounding suburbs/pocket communities. I remember reading all the articles and watching the news stories about it and without getting into spoilers its amazing how long it took the police to put the pieces together because of their inability to collaborate, their willful stubbornness or blindness to victims stories or failure to share information that I am sure the show will go into.

Edit: I know it's a fictionalized story based on the real events but the reviews have said they kept it very true to the real story/events.
You forgot about because of how stupid and icky men are.

I don't think this was tip top (I mentioned mindhunter, which hits higher highs imo) but it's definitely good and maintains a consistent quality across the season. The procedural part worked well and was interesting to me, which was helped by good writing and acting. As a local, I think you'll have even more to be interested in- the story was completely new to me.

 

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