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QUOTE(perry147 @ Oct 3 2006, 01:58 PM) *

You know what would be nice; if we could have a running total of the cut off limit in real time -

Imagine watching the cut number climbing all day; just put it on the main page like a countdown clock.

:goodposting:

I can hardly think of anything more fun to watch than the live scoring ticker, as the cutline moved up throgh the day. I know it will never happen, but it would be amazingly cool.
 
Real-time NFL stats are extremely expensive to license. It's survivor format, you don't need to know that soon to make it worthwhile. Heck, you don't even have to ever look at your team's page ever again, just check your email in 4 months and see if you won. Grab the pencil and paper if you really need to know that fast...

 
106.8

Shaun Alexander out this week

Peyton, Wayne, Jennings, Gabriel, Franks, Marcedes Lewis, Marcus Washington, Travis Taylor all out next week....

End of the road as I know it!

Never looked at WR BYE weeks....duh!

 
Real-time NFL stats are extremely expensive to license. It's survivor format, you don't need to know that soon to make it worthwhile. Heck, you don't even have to ever look at your team's page ever again, just check your email in 4 months and see if you won. Grab the pencil and paper if you really need to know that fast...
How much do real time stats from the NFL cost?
 
Here is another collection of stats:

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58.8 percent of all entries are still alive.%OWN = percentage of still-alive rosters that have the given player.%LIVE = percentage of all rosters with the given player that are still alive.Player			  price   %OWN  %LIVE----------------------------------------Donovan McNabb		22	 6.0   77.2Brett Favre		   14	 8.6   69.2Jon Kitna			 12	24.1   68.4J.P. Losman			6	 7.1   66.3Carson Palmer		 22	23.7   65.5Michael Vick		  17	 5.1   63.6Peyton Manning		29	16.8   63.2Chris Simms		   10	31.7   62.9Charlie Frye		   9	 2.0   62.2Jake Delhomme		 15	28.2   61.4Matt Schaub			5	 0.9   60.2Marc Bulger		   19	 4.5   59.8Byron Leftwich		12	 5.5   59.6Daunte Culpepper	  18	13.6   58.6David Carr			10	 3.4   58.4Jason Campbell		 4	 0.2   57.1Matt Leinart		   5	11.2   56.5Kurt Warner		   15	20.4   56.2Chad Pennington		7	 5.3   56.2Philip Rivers		 10	17.3   55.6Rex Grossman		   7	 1.5   55.4Alex Smith			 7	 4.6   54.6Matt Hasselbeck	   22	 2.5   54.5Jay Cutler			 4	 2.7   54.5Steve McNair		  13	 9.1   54.3Jake Plummer		  16	 4.3   53.0Brian Griese		   6	 3.5   52.6Kellen Clemens		 2	 2.3   52.5Jamie Martin		   2	 1.1   52.4Eli Manning		   21	 2.4   52.2Brad Johnson		  10	 6.7   50.7Gus Frerotte		   4	 0.5   50.0Vince Young			4	 5.0   49.5Craig Nall			 2	 0.6   48.4Tom Brady			 24	 1.7   48.4Drew Brees			14	 1.9   47.8A.J. Feeley			2	 1.4   46.8Trent Green		   15	 4.1   46.3Drew Bledsoe		  19	 2.1   46.2Aaron Brooks		  17	 2.4   45.9Joey Harrington		4	 0.3   40.7Mark Brunell		  12	 1.1   38.9David Garrard		  4	 0.4   38.5Ben Roethlisberger	14	 1.0   37.8Josh McCown			6	 0.2   36.2Jay Fiedler			3	 0.2   34.3Kelly Holcomb		  6	 0.1   33.3Patrick Ramsey		 5	 0.1   31.2Billy Volek		   10	 0.7   29.6Kyle Boller			5	 0.0   18.8Rudi Johnson		  42	28.9   72.5Kevin Jones		   38	 5.4   72.1Maurice Jones-Drew	 2	 4.9   68.9Willie Parker		 32	40.0   68.3Frank Gore			10	69.6   67.6Laurence Maroney	  11	19.7   67.5Jerious Norwood		2	24.5   67.2Ahman Green		   18	12.2   66.1Willis McGahee		37	 9.7   63.9Vernand Morency		1	15.1   63.0Kevan Barlow		   6	14.1   61.6DeAngelo Williams	 11	 7.5   61.4Deuce McAllister	  15	 6.9   61.3Thomas Jones		  23	 8.4   61.1Reggie Bush		   22	28.8   60.0DeShaun Foster		28	 9.9   59.9Brandon Jacobs		 2	21.6   59.2Warrick Dunn		  33	12.2   58.9Ronnie Brown		  52	 9.6   58.9Fred Taylor		   17	13.2   58.4Marion Barber III	 10	10.5   58.1Brian Westbrook	   58	 1.0   58.1Ladell Betts		   3	 2.7   56.6Michael Turner		 5	 4.7   56.4Tatum Bell			22	 3.6   56.3Dominic Rhodes		22	 4.7   55.5Jerome Harrison		2	 1.1   55.1Steven Jackson		54	 5.5   54.6Derrick Blaylock	   1	 3.4   54.5Cedric Cobbs		   1	 1.6   53.8Chris Brown			7	 9.5   52.7Chester Taylor		30	 7.9   52.3Joseph Addai		  22	 3.0   51.4Travis Henry		   2	 5.4   50.9Verron Haynes		  3	 1.8   49.6LaDainian Tomlinson   71	 8.0   49.4T.J. Duckett		   2	10.6   48.4Cadillac Williams	 49	 3.6   48.3Edgerrin James		50	 1.8   46.4Corey Dillon		  25	 2.7   46.2Maurice Morris		 2	 1.7   46.0Brian Calhoun		  2	 0.2   45.7Michael Bennett		1	 2.3   45.4Reuben Droughns	   39	 1.4   45.2Jamal Lewis		   24	 4.4   45.1Mike Anderson		  6	 2.3   44.2Greg Jones			 2	 0.9   43.9Tiki Barber		   61	 2.9   43.3Larry Johnson		 77	 4.0   42.9LenDale White		  7	 2.6   42.6Cedric Houston		 2	 0.9   42.5Ryan Moats			 3	 1.0   41.9Shaun Alexander	   69	 8.6   41.4Samkon Gado			7	 2.3   39.8Kevin Faulk			3	 0.5   39.3LaMont Jordan		 59	 0.5   38.0Clinton Portis		60	 0.4   37.9Cedric Benson		 18	 1.1   36.9Mike Alstott		   2	 1.3   36.8Antowain Smith		 2	 0.2   35.0Mewelde Moore		  6	 0.5   34.4Sammy Morris		   2	 0.1   33.3Julius Jones		  35	 0.7   32.4Arlen Harris		   1	 0.2   32.4Ciatrick Fason		 2	 0.2   32.4Chris Perry		   10	 0.3   31.1Alvin Pearman		  1	 0.2   30.6Michael Pittman		4	 0.8   29.7Najeh Davenport		1	 0.4   28.4James Mungro		   1	 0.2   27.9J.J. Arrington		 1	 0.4   25.7Curtis Martin		 11	 0.2   25.0Domanick Davis		41	 0.1   25.0Dee Brown			  4	 0.1   25.0Zack Crockett		  1	 0.3   22.6Ron Dayne			 22	 0.2   20.9Duce Staley			2	 0.3   20.0Tony Fisher			1	 0.1   19.5William Green		  2	 0.1   16.0William Henderson	  1	 0.0   13.6Roy Williams		  27	23.1   78.0Greg Jennings		  2	32.8   75.8Braylon Edwards		2	31.8   74.7Andre Johnson		 24	 3.4   71.8Terry Glenn		   13	45.8   71.5Lee Evans			 14	26.1   70.3Keyshawn Johnson	  11	10.6   70.1T.J. Houshmandzadeh   23	34.4   70.1Torry Holt			46	 2.2   68.0Laveranues Coles	  19	 3.7   67.9Chris Henry			2	 7.7   67.3Antonio Bryant		 9	23.6   66.9Troy Williamson		4	42.2   66.1Muhsin Muhammad	   15	 7.6   65.3Doug Gabriel		   1	28.4   64.4Donald Driver		 36	 5.7   64.2Reggie Wayne		  35	17.0   63.8Javon Walker		  23	 9.2   61.2Bernard Berrian		1	 0.7   60.2Travis Taylor		  2	 7.4   59.5Michael Clayton		9	27.6   58.9Bobby Engram		   4	10.1   58.8Isaac Bruce			6	13.5   58.3Mark Clayton		   6	 9.3   58.2Devery Henderson	   1	 2.1   57.8Ronald Curry		   1	11.4   57.6Derrick Mason		 26	 7.3   56.8Reggie Brown		  13	 8.9   56.8Chris Chambers		39	 9.7   56.5Corey Bradford		 3	 5.6   56.1Amani Toomer		   5	 6.2   56.1Matt Jones			14	16.0   55.9Donte Stallworth	  14	11.3   55.6Joe Horn			  16	11.2   55.6Cedrick Wilson		 5	 4.7   55.6Drew Bennett		   8	12.9   55.3Ernest Wilford		 5	14.5   55.2Vincent Jackson		1	 2.2   55.1Joey Galloway		 21	 5.1   54.7Nate Burleson		  6	19.3   54.6Plaxico Burress	   30	 3.6   54.1Anquan Boldin		 43	 2.7   53.9Eddie Kennison		22	 3.6   53.4Darrell Jackson	   32	 0.9   53.3Marvin Harrison	   43	 2.4   53.1Marty Booker		   2	 6.1   52.2Reggie Williams		5	 1.1   52.0Bryant Johnson		 1	 2.2   51.3Michael Jenkins		5	 3.4   50.2Larry Fitzgerald	  45	 4.2   49.6Marcus Robinson		1	 3.5   49.2Samie Parker		   7	 3.4   48.9Kevin Curtis		   5	 9.0   48.7Chad Jackson		   2	 1.5   47.5Greg Lewis			 2	 1.4   46.4Santana Moss		  32	 1.2   45.8Peerless Price		 2	 2.8   45.7Brandon Stokley		2	11.2   45.1Eric Moulds			7	 5.3   45.0Wes Welker			 1	 0.6   44.6Reche Caldwell		 4	 2.6   44.5Keenan McCardell	  10	 5.6   44.3Roddy White			5	 3.4   43.8Brandon Lloyd		  5	 5.0   43.5Chad Johnson		  46	 4.3   42.3Joe Jurevicius		 8	 4.2   41.3Arnaz Battle		   3	 1.6   41.1Dennis Northcutt	   2	 0.5   40.7Rod Smith			 24	 1.4   40.3Mike Hass			  1	 0.1   40.0Drew Carter			1	 0.6   39.6David Givens		   5	 2.4   39.1Antwaan Randle El	  3	 4.0   38.6Keary Colbert		  1	 1.9   38.3Santonio Holmes		2	 1.4   37.8Eric Parker			4	 1.5   37.7David Boston		   1	 2.0   37.0Robert Ferguson		2	 1.1   36.9Randy Moss			44	 1.1   36.6Jerry Porter		   7	 2.3   36.2Steve Smith		   49	 1.1   36.1Mark Bradley		   2	 0.4   35.6Patrick Crayton		1	 0.9   34.3Sinorice Moss		  2	 1.8   31.9Todd Pinkston		  1	 1.5   30.9Mike Williams		  2	 0.6   30.0Terrell Owens		 45	 0.6   27.7Dante Hall			 1	 1.2   27.4Deion Branch		  28	 0.1   26.5Justin McCareins	   2	 0.4   26.4Hines Ward			36	 0.3   25.3Andre Davis			1	 0.2   24.6Darius Watts		   1	 0.2   24.4Peter Warrick		  1	 0.3   23.7Charles Rogers		 1	 0.5   23.5Courtney Roby		  1	 0.1   23.3Koren Robinson		12	 0.4   22.7Brian Finneran		 1	 0.2   22.1Scott Vines			1	 0.1   20.9Jabar Gaffney		  2	 0.1   15.7L.J. Smith			10	 8.5   72.3Todd Heap			 22	 3.3   70.4Ben Watson			 9	68.0   67.6Kellen Winslow Jr	 10	 5.9   67.5Ben Troupe			 8	 5.6   67.5Tony Scheffler		 1	14.3   66.2Eric Johnson		   1	 1.6   61.4Desmond Clark		  3	 4.1   60.1Jermaine Wiggins	   6	 5.8   58.1Randy McMichael	   10	 8.0   56.9Alex Smith			 6	 2.9   56.3Marcedes Lewis		 1	 2.7   56.1Daniel Graham		  1	 1.4   55.2Joe Klopfenstein	   2	 3.4   55.0Reggie Kelly		   1	 0.6   54.9Bubba Franks		   2	10.7   54.5Chris Cooley		  12	 4.0   54.1Heath Miller		   7	12.7   53.5Courtney Anderson	  1	 2.2   53.3Marcus Pollard		 1	 1.7   52.2Dallas Clark		   8	 4.3   50.9Leonard Pope		   1	 2.9   50.6Vernon Davis		   7	 5.1   50.1Jason Witten		  13	 3.0   48.8Steve Heiden		   1	 0.4   48.4Alge Crumpler		 15	 2.2   48.3Itula Mili			 1	 1.4   47.1Bryan Fletcher		 1	 0.4   46.7Jeb Putzier			4	 1.8   45.6Chris Baker			1	 0.4   45.5Erron Kinney		   2	 1.8   45.1Matt Schobel		   1	 0.3   44.2Bo Scaife			  1	 0.1   41.7Zach Hilton			6	 0.4   41.5Jeremy Shockey		22	 0.9   41.2Jerramy Stevens		7	 1.0   39.7Tony Gonzalez		 23	 0.3   38.8George Wrighster	   1	 0.0   37.5Antonio Gates		 35	 1.8   36.8Dominique Byrd		 1	 0.1   36.4Jim Kleinsasser		1	 1.4   36.0Stephen Alexander	  1	 1.3   35.3David Martin		   1	 0.1   34.5Kris Mangum			1	 0.5   30.6Doug Jolley			1	 0.3   27.7Kyle Brady			 1	 0.1   25.0Anthony Becht		  1	 0.1   24.2Daniel Wilcox		  1	 0.0   20.0Kris Wilson			1	 0.0   18.2Donald Lee			 1	 0.0	0.0Matt Stover			2	 9.7   69.6David Akers			2	18.3   66.2John Kasay			 2	11.7   65.7Josh Scobee			2	 0.5   65.5Stephen Gostkowski	 1	26.2   63.8Shayne Graham		  3	14.8   63.7Robbie Gould		   1	 1.4   63.7Jeff Wilkins		   2	 5.6   63.5Jay Feely			  2	16.0   63.5Olindo Mare			2	 2.6   61.5Josh Brown			 2	12.4   59.8Nate Kaeding		   2	 2.7   58.3Ryan Longwell		  2	 3.7   58.2Jason Hanson		   1	12.3   57.9Matt Bryant			1	 2.9   56.5John Carney			1	 3.8   55.2Jason Elam			 3	 7.2   55.0Lawrence Tynes		 2	 4.8   54.0Sebastian Janikowski   1	13.6   53.2Neil Rackers		   4	12.3   51.1Jeff Reed			  2	 3.1   50.9John Hall			  1	 2.4   50.8Joe Nedney			 1	 1.0   49.3Mike Nugent			1	 1.3   48.9Rian Lindell		   2	 0.4   47.2Rob Bironas			1	 1.0   45.2Mike Vanderjagt		2	 3.1   43.7Adam Vinatieri		 4	 3.6   43.5Kris Brown			 1	 0.8   39.0Phil Dawson			1	 0.9   38.8Billy Cundiff		  1	 0.1   17.5Zac Derr			   1	 0.0	0.0Green Bay Packers	  1	 5.1   65.9Baltimore Ravens	   6	 5.2   65.8Philadelphia Eagles	4	 6.8   65.6Miami Dolphins		 3	21.7   64.2New York Jets		  2	 1.1   63.6Indianapolis Colts	 5	 7.0   63.6Atlanta Falcons		3	 8.5   63.0Arizona Cardinals	  2	 4.9   63.0Cincinnati Bengals	 2	22.0   62.8Minnesota Vikings	  2	 9.2   61.9Seattle Seahawks	   4	10.9   61.1New York Giants		3	14.3   60.5Dallas Cowboys		 5	 5.9   59.7Chicago Bears		  8	11.3   59.3New England Patriots   3	11.0   57.2Jacksonville Jaguars   4	 5.9   56.7Carolina Panthers	  8	 9.8   55.0San Diego Chargers	 2	 5.3   54.3St. Louis Rams		 1	 3.2   54.3Cleveland Browns	   2	 1.5   53.6Pittsburgh Steelers	7	 4.7   52.6Tampa Bay Buccaneers   6	 2.9   52.4Buffalo Bills		  2	 3.6   52.0Washington Redskins	6	 1.7   50.4Detroit Lions		  1	 5.3   49.5Kansas City Chiefs	 2	 2.7   49.5San Francisco 49ers	1	 0.7   48.1Denver Broncos		 4	 2.5   47.9Tennessee Titans	   1	 1.9   46.2Oakland Raiders		1	 1.8   45.4New Orleans Saints	 1	 0.9   40.3Houston Texans		 1	 0.9   37.0
 
What I find interesting about this are guys like Tony Scheffler. He hasn't done squat this year (1 catch for 9 yards), but yet his owners are in general doing very well. Why? Because people who picked Scheffler are probably people who filled out lineups late and were generally paying attention.

Correlation is not causation, as we all know. Having Scheffler on your team does not cause success (at least it hasn't yet), but apparently it correlates with some factors that do.

Just an observation.

 
What I find interesting about this are guys like Tony Scheffler. He hasn't done squat this year (1 catch for 9 yards), but yet his owners are in general doing very well. Why? Because people who picked Scheffler are probably people who filled out lineups late and were generally paying attention. Correlation is not causation, as we all know. Having Scheffler on your team does not cause success (at least it hasn't yet), but apparently it correlates with some factors that do.Just an observation.
Interesting. I hadn't thought about that. I have Scheffler. I think that a lot of tinkering really helped my decisions. I started early, and would come back to my lineup after ignoring it for a few days and say to myself, "Oh, I don't want that guy on my team after all." Not all my decisions have worked out so far (Fitzgerald :bag: ), but the tinkering over a long period did work out for me.
 
You know, one interesting thing got me thinking about this contest and FF in general:

When I picked Rudi Johnson as my #1 RB, he was about my 6th choice as my #1 RB. I had other top guys in that slot to start, but I had reservations about those guys. The guys that I didn't pay for, and I am glad, are RBs that were either way too expensive (Shaun Alexander, Tiki Barber) or didn't have a proven track record of success (Ronnie Brown).

The lesson I take from this type of contest is paying too high a price for one guy is a big mistake. That has worked for my RBs, but it's killing me for my WRs (Fitzgerald.).

 
What I find interesting about this are guys like Tony Scheffler. He hasn't done squat this year (1 catch for 9 yards), but yet his owners are in general doing very well. Why? Because people who picked Scheffler are probably people who filled out lineups late and were generally paying attention. Correlation is not causation, as we all know. Having Scheffler on your team does not cause success (at least it hasn't yet), but apparently it correlates with some factors that do.Just an observation.
Interesting. I hadn't thought about that. I have Scheffler. I think that a lot of tinkering really helped my decisions. I started early, and would come back to my lineup after ignoring it for a few days and say to myself, "Oh, I don't want that guy on my team after all." Not all my decisions have worked out so far (Fitzgerald :bag: ), but the tinkering over a long period did work out for me.
:goodposting: I have Scheffler and Miller.
 
What I find interesting about this are guys like Tony Scheffler. He hasn't done squat this year (1 catch for 9 yards), but yet his owners are in general doing very well. Why? Because people who picked Scheffler are probably people who filled out lineups late and were generally paying attention. Correlation is not causation, as we all know. Having Scheffler on your team does not cause success (at least it hasn't yet), but apparently it correlates with some factors that do.Just an observation.
Interesting. I hadn't thought about that. I have Scheffler. I think that a lot of tinkering really helped my decisions. I started early, and would come back to my lineup after ignoring it for a few days and say to myself, "Oh, I don't want that guy on my team after all." Not all my decisions have worked out so far (Fitzgerald :bag: ), but the tinkering over a long period did work out for me.
:goodposting: I have Scheffler and Miller.
I really drank the Ben Watson coolaid this year. I wish I had stuck with Miller as my #1 TE. :ptts:
 
The lesson I take from this type of contest is paying too high a price for one guy is a big mistake. That has worked for my RBs, but it's killing me for my WRs (Fitzgerald.).
Yeah, and aside from the Fitz's of the world letting you down, what does one do with injuries. Depth and health are huge in this game.
 
Update, 4 guys haven't contributed yet to my weekly scores. Total cost: $7. I've gotten points from a $6, $4, and a $2, not counting kickers.

 
I think the real interesting stats are thos where more than 50% of original owners of particular high-cost players are gone:

More than half of the owners of the big RBs are all gone:

LT (50.6% eliminated)

Cadillac Williams (51.7% eliminated)

Tiki Barber (56.7% eliminated)

Larry Johnson (57.1% eleminated)

Shaun Alexander (58.6% eliminated)

Lamont Jordan (62% eliminated)

Clinton Portis (62.1% eliminated)

Chad Johnson, Randy Moss, and Steve Smith are having a similar effect on the WRs.

All three of the top $$ TEs (Shockey, Gonzo, and Gates) have less than 50% of their original owners still in the game.

 
I think the real interesting stats are thos where more than 50% of original owners of particular high-cost players are gone:

More than half of the owners of the big RBs are all gone:

LT (50.6% eliminated)

Cadillac Williams (51.7% eliminated)

Tiki Barber (56.7% eliminated)

Larry Johnson (57.1% eleminated)

Shaun Alexander (58.6% eliminated)

Lamont Jordan (62% eliminated)

Clinton Portis (62.1% eliminated)

Chad Johnson, Randy Moss, and Steve Smith are having a similar effect on the WRs.

All three of the top $$ TEs (Shockey, Gonzo, and Gates) have less than 50% of their original owners still in the game.
I am very surprised this number is not higher.
 
Still sitting on 6 non-contributors.

$15 Plummer - although he scored a 21.7 in Wk3 - He'll factor in before all is said & done

$9 Mike Clayton - my biggest concern on the roster - could have spent this money better

$2 Jacobs - TD vulture / Tiki injury play

$1 Morency - although it was close last week

$1 Curry - just looking for the occasional big game flyer

$1 Scheffler - Kool-Aid drinker :bag:

 
I think the real interesting stats are thos where more than 50% of original owners of particular high-cost players are gone:More than half of the owners of the big RBs are all gone:LT (50.6% eliminated)Cadillac Williams (51.7% eliminated)Tiki Barber (56.7% eliminated)Larry Johnson (57.1% eleminated)Shaun Alexander (58.6% eliminated)Lamont Jordan (62% eliminated)Clinton Portis (62.1% eliminated)Chad Johnson, Randy Moss, and Steve Smith are having a similar effect on the WRs.All three of the top $$ TEs (Shockey, Gonzo, and Gates) have less than 50% of their original owners still in the game.
Of those RBs, though, LT, Tiki, and Larry have had their bye. SA and CP have missed games due to injury.
 
I think the real interesting stats are thos where more than 50% of original owners of particular high-cost players are gone:

More than half of the owners of the big RBs are all gone:

LT (50.6% eliminated)

Cadillac Williams (51.7% eliminated)

Tiki Barber (56.7% eliminated)

Larry Johnson (57.1% eleminated)

Shaun Alexander (58.6% eliminated)

Lamont Jordan (62% eliminated)

Clinton Portis (62.1% eliminated)

Chad Johnson, Randy Moss, and Steve Smith are having a similar effect on the WRs.

All three of the top $$ TEs (Shockey, Gonzo, and Gates) have less than 50% of their original owners still in the game.
This one really sticks out. I wonder how many of these came in week 2 when he did not play?
 
QuizGuy66 said:
Wow only 8% of the people left have LT2? And I'm one of the lucky 48.4% to have survived with him on my roster. :pickle: :) -QG
I am in the same boat. I figure if your still alive with LT2, and factor in he already had his bye and had to face off vs the Raven D, then you have to feel someone good about your chances to stick around for a few more weeks (provided the rest of your team is in good order). Of course, I'll get the boot this week because thats my luck, but I do like the fact I have LT2 working for me going forward where most others do not.
 
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Byron Leftwich

Carson Palmer

David Garrard

Thomas Jones

Rudi Johnson

Vernand Morency

Reggie Bush

Frank Gore

Greg Jennings

Braylon Edwards

Anquan Boldin

Antonio Bryant

Chris Henry

Joey Galloway

Michael Clayton

Ben Troupe

Ben Watson

John Kasay

Sebastian Janikowski

Miami Dolphins

New England Patriots

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TOTAL 133.4 161.0 152.7 129.9

CUTOFF 0.0 123.7 125.3 106.8

The winning team .... its mine!


 
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I think the real interesting stats are thos where more than 50% of original owners of particular high-cost players are gone:More than half of the owners of the big RBs are all gone:LT (50.6% eliminated)Cadillac Williams (51.7% eliminated)Tiki Barber (56.7% eliminated)Larry Johnson (57.1% eleminated)Shaun Alexander (58.6% eliminated)Lamont Jordan (62% eliminated)Clinton Portis (62.1% eliminated)Chad Johnson, Randy Moss, and Steve Smith are having a similar effect on the WRs.All three of the top $$ TEs (Shockey, Gonzo, and Gates) have less than 50% of their original owners still in the game.
The real interesting week will be week 7. During that week, Lewis, Jones, Benson, Bush, Deuce, Gore, Jackson, Henry, Brown, and White will all be off. Just looking at the 70% that own Gore, using simple probability, about 55% of those owners (about 38% of the total teams) also have at least 1 other RB on bye that week. Of those, another 1/3 also have one of the high dollar RB's (the ones about $50 or above). So, that's 13% of the total pool who are really counting on their high dollar RB that week. Week 7 trims 20% of the teams (5k to 4k) so many of those that have their high $ RB stink or not play that week will also likely be the ones that finish near the bottom.I originally feared week 7 (Bush/Gore owner) but it's nice to know 38% of us are in the same boat and 13% could be much worse off.
 
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Wow only 8% of the people left have LT2? And I'm one of the lucky 48.4% to have survived with him on my roster. :pickle: :) -QG
I am kicking myself for not spending the 2 extra dollars to upgrade from Alexander to LT. :cry: I started to change it on the last day and did not. Alexander hasn't even counted yet, so I would still be alive easily.
 
The real interesting week will be week 7. During that week, Lewis, Jones, Benson, Bush, Deuce, Gore, Jackson, Henry, Brown, and White will all be off. Just looking at the 70% that own Gore, using simple probability, about 55% of those owners (about 38% of the total teams) also have at least 1 other RB on bye that week. Of those, another 1/3 also have one of the high dollar RB's (the ones about $50 or above). So, that's 13% of the total pool who are really counting on their high dollar RB that week. Week 7 trims 20% of the teams (5k to 4k) so many of those that have their high $ RB stink or not play that week will also likely be the ones that finish near the bottom.I originally feared week 7 (Bush/Gore owner) but it's nice to know 38% of us are in the same boat and 13% could be much worse off.
That's gonna be an ugly week...
 
Chris Simms 62.9

this one stands out to me.... i think the same kind of scenario that drein pointed out about scheffler

 
Chris Simms 62.9

this one stands out to me.... i think the same kind of scenario that drein pointed out about scheffler
I would guess that most people who took Simms took him as their 3rd QB. Therefore, his misfortunes so far this season haven't affected most who have him on their squad.

 
I think the real interesting stats are thos where more than 50% of original owners of particular high-cost players are gone:

More than half of the owners of the big RBs are all gone:

LT (50.6% eliminated)

Cadillac Williams (51.7% eliminated)

Tiki Barber (56.7% eliminated)

Larry Johnson (57.1% eleminated)

Shaun Alexander (58.6% eliminated)

Lamont Jordan (62% eliminated)

Clinton Portis (62.1% eliminated)

Chad Johnson, Randy Moss, and Steve Smith are having a similar effect on the WRs.

All three of the top $$ TEs (Shockey, Gonzo, and Gates) have less than 50% of their original owners still in the game.
Of those RBs, though, LT, Tiki, and Larry have had their bye. SA and CP have missed games due to injury.
As have all three of the TE studs.As byes hit other guys, things will start to even out. Let's see what happens with teams that have Rudi, Palmer, CJ, Housh, Vick and Dunn this week.

 
The real interesting week will be week 7. During that week, Lewis, Jones, Benson, Bush, Deuce, Gore, Jackson, Henry, Brown, and White will all be off. Just looking at the 70% that own Gore, using simple probability, about 55% of those owners (about 38% of the total teams) also have at least 1 other RB on bye that week. Of those, another 1/3 also have one of the high dollar RB's (the ones about $50 or above). So, that's 13% of the total pool who are really counting on their high dollar RB that week. Week 7 trims 20% of the teams (5k to 4k) so many of those that have their high $ RB stink or not play that week will also likely be the ones that finish near the bottom.I originally feared week 7 (Bush/Gore owner) but it's nice to know 38% of us are in the same boat and 13% could be much worse off.
That's gonna be an ugly week...
Week 7 was the one I was worried about from the start. I have Bush and Gore (and Brown :bag: ) plus Mason.Now I'm more worried about week 6 with Manning, Maroney, Edwards, Williamson, and Watson all off. I'm counting on that being the week that Rivers contributes, since he's facing the 49ers.
 
The real interesting week will be week 7. During that week, Lewis, Jones, Benson, Bush, Deuce, Gore, Jackson, Henry, Brown, and White will all be off. Just looking at the 70% that own Gore, using simple probability, about 55% of those owners (about 38% of the total teams) also have at least 1 other RB on bye that week. Of those, another 1/3 also have one of the high dollar RB's (the ones about $50 or above). So, that's 13% of the total pool who are really counting on their high dollar RB that week. Week 7 trims 20% of the teams (5k to 4k) so many of those that have their high $ RB stink or not play that week will also likely be the ones that finish near the bottom.I originally feared week 7 (Bush/Gore owner) but it's nice to know 38% of us are in the same boat and 13% could be much worse off.
That's gonna be an ugly week...
As much as Week 7 is brutal for BR's, Week 6 is brutal for WR's and TE's- 8 of the top 14 owned WR's are off (Williamson, Jennings, Edwards, Gabriel, Burleson, Wayne, M Jones, Wilford) A lot are low-$$ guys.- 6 of the top 11 owned TE's are off (Watson, Franks, Winslow, Wiggins, V Davis*, Dal Clark)* Injured
 
As byes hit other guys, things will start to even out. Let's see what happens with teams that have Rudi, Palmer, CJ, Housh, Vick and Dunn this week.
I have Rudi, so I am really counting on Chester Taylor and Frank Gore this week. I think Gore rebounds with a very strong game.
 
Thought it'd be interesting to look at how the top-10 from each of the previous weeks fared going forward.

4 of the top 10 scorers from week 1 have since been eliminated (3 of them in the top 6)

4 of the top 10 scorers from week 2 have since been eliminated (including #2 from that week)

None of the top 10 scorers from week 3 have been eliminated (the highest ranked Departee was #14)

Okay, just for kicks I'll look at the bubble kids starting with week 2 (week 1 there was no bubble)

Only 6 of the 19 people who finished at the cut line week 2 have been since eliminated (or amazingly a lower percentage than those who finished in the top 10 that week!)

Only 1 of the 11 people who finished at the cut line week 3 was eliminated in week 4 (9.1%, less than the overall cut percentage of about 12.5%)

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out going forward. Clearly there's small comfort to be had for those finishing at the top and no reason to lose hope for those who have barely squeaked by.

-QG

 
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Thought it'd be interesting to look at how the top-10 from each of the previous weeks fared going forward.4 of the top 10 scorers from week 1 have since been eliminated (3 of them in the top 6)4 of the top 10 scorers from week 2 have since been eliminated (including #2 from that week)None of the top 10 scorers from week 3 have been eliminated (the highest ranked Departee was #14)Okay, just for kicks I'll look at the bubble kids starting with week 2 (week 1 there was no bubble)Only 6 of the 19 people who finished at the cut line week 2 have been since eliminated (or amazingly a lower percentage than those who finished in the top 10 that week!)Only 1 of the 11 people who finished at the cut line week 3 was eliminated in week 4 (9.1%, less than the overall cut percentage of about 12.5%)It'll be interesting to see how this pans out going forward. Clearly there's small comfort to be had for those finishing at the top and no reason to lose hope for those who have barely squeaked by.-QG
:goodposting: CLEARLY the 116 my team managed this past week was an aberration and I'm destined for victory!Or not. :bye:
 
QuizGuy66 said:
Thought it'd be interesting to look at how the top-10 from each of the previous weeks fared going forward.4 of the top 10 scorers from week 1 have since been eliminated (3 of them in the top 6)4 of the top 10 scorers from week 2 have since been eliminated (including #2 from that week)None of the top 10 scorers from week 3 have been eliminated (the highest ranked Departee was #14)Okay, just for kicks I'll look at the bubble kids starting with week 2 (week 1 there was no bubble)Only 6 of the 19 people who finished at the cut line week 2 have been since eliminated (or amazingly a lower percentage than those who finished in the top 10 that week!)Only 1 of the 11 people who finished at the cut line week 3 was eliminated in week 4 (9.1%, less than the overall cut percentage of about 12.5%)It'll be interesting to see how this pans out going forward. Clearly there's small comfort to be had for those finishing at the top and no reason to lose hope for those who have barely squeaked by.-QG
Can you do a breakdown by % of people within a certain % of the cut line?Example: 75 % of the people who made the cut are between 10 points of the cut line.
 
The real interesting week will be week 7. During that week, Lewis, Jones, Benson, Bush, Deuce, Gore, Jackson, Henry, Brown, and White will all be off. Just looking at the 70% that own Gore, using simple probability, about 55% of those owners (about 38% of the total teams) also have at least 1 other RB on bye that week. Of those, another 1/3 also have one of the high dollar RB's (the ones about $50 or above). So, that's 13% of the total pool who are really counting on their high dollar RB that week. Week 7 trims 20% of the teams (5k to 4k) so many of those that have their high $ RB stink or not play that week will also likely be the ones that finish near the bottom.I originally feared week 7 (Bush/Gore owner) but it's nice to know 38% of us are in the same boat and 13% could be much worse off.
:shrug: I have Gore and Deuce out, but I'll have Rudi and Willie both past their bye, not to mention Marion Barber who should at least get SOMETHING. All told, I like my RBs:
Code:
Rudi Johnson		 $42	17.3  28.8   7.7  18.1 Marion Barber III	$10	 4.6  13.5   0.0  14.3 Deuce McAllister	 $15	 9.0  20.1  13.4  11.7 Frank Gore		   $10	35.0  21.7  13.4   9.9 Willie Parker		$32	15.8   5.6  27.6   0.0
My WRs are similarly deep, though I might not have anyone that really carries me, all of them have big game potential as long as I don't have to pick WHICH one. Jennings and Williamson are spectacular values. Burleson, Matt Jones, and Clayton not so much.
Code:
Terry Glenn		  $13	12.1  21.4   0.0  24.6 Roy Williams		 $27	 6.6  13.1  26.8  22.9 Greg Jennings		$ 2	 1.5  18.7  19.1  13.6 Troy Williamson	  $ 4	11.7  16.2   7.9   4.7 Matt Jones		   $14	11.5  13.3   0.0   3.3 Nate Burleson		$ 6	 4.6   1.7  14.2   2.9 Michael Clayton	  $ 9	 6.4  11.2   2.4   0.0
My QBs, on the other hand, worry me:
Code:
Byron Leftwich	   $12	21.5  12.4  14.8  26.9 Daunte Culpepper	 $18	11.9  16.2  14.9  16.4 Chris Simms		  $10	 4.0  13.0  16.1   0.0
 
As byes hit other guys, things will start to even out. Let's see what happens with teams that have Rudi, Palmer, CJ, Housh, Vick and Dunn this week.
I have Rudi, so I am really counting on Chester Taylor and Frank Gore this week. I think Gore rebounds with a very strong game.
:lmao: I pray may be a better term here.
Maybe, but I definitely think it's reasonable to expect a better game from Gore this week. At home, playing a softer defense, 1 week further removed from his rib injury, all sound like reasons to expect improved production to me.
 
As byes hit other guys, things will start to even out. Let's see what happens with teams that have Rudi, Palmer, CJ, Housh, Vick and Dunn this week.
I have Rudi, so I am really counting on Chester Taylor and Frank Gore this week. I think Gore rebounds with a very strong game.
:lmao: I pray may be a better term here.
Maybe, but I definitely think it's reasonable to expect a better game from Gore this week. At home, playing a softer defense, 1 week further removed from his rib injury, all sound like reasons to expect improved production to me.
Not just wishful thinking here: I think Gore has a very good game vs. Oakland.
 
As byes hit other guys, things will start to even out. Let's see what happens with teams that have Rudi, Palmer, CJ, Housh, Vick and Dunn this week.
I have Rudi, so I am really counting on Chester Taylor and Frank Gore this week. I think Gore rebounds with a very strong game.
:lmao: I pray may be a better term here.
Maybe, but I definitely think it's reasonable to expect a better game from Gore this week. At home, playing a softer defense, 1 week further removed from his rib injury, all sound like reasons to expect improved production to me.
Oh I agree he will have a better game. Just thought it was funny you "think he will a very strong game" considering the fact you need him to have a great game this week.I guess it was funnier in my head. :mellow:

 
I also started with the high priced guys and then thought to myself, would I rather rely on LT2 having an amazing game every week or take my chances with a smattering of reliable RB1.

That's how I got Rudi, FWP, McGahee, Gore. I also took Brandon Jacobs, though I was seriously considering Norwood.

With QB, I figured I'd do similar. I started with Manning, and actually decided he was worth it, since a big week from him (say a 5-TD game, which is something he seems to do every now and again), could get me through a rough week. And took Vick and McNair, figuring they had decent value, considering, and had a chance of outscoring Manning on his down weeks.

That left me with bargain bin WR--Glenn, Bryant, Reggie Brown, McCardell, Gabriel... and I forgot.

Bargain bin TE--Watson, Franks--who stupidly have the same bye week.

Went with name kickers who were cheap -- Akers, Vandy

Arizona and Buffalo D are not working out as poorly as many would have predicted.

So, all in all, I've done alright considering it's PPR and I spent about 40 bucks on my receivers. One stud receiver cost more easily, and is nearly as prone as any of the guys I picked of putting up jack--Chad Johnson 1 catch, 11 yards... ugh.

 
What I find interesting about this are guys like Tony Scheffler. He hasn't done squat this year (1 catch for 9 yards), but yet his owners are in general doing very well. Why? Because people who picked Scheffler are probably people who filled out lineups late and were generally paying attention. Correlation is not causation, as we all know. Having Scheffler on your team does not cause success (at least it hasn't yet), but apparently it correlates with some factors that do.Just an observation.
Interesting. I hadn't thought about that. I have Scheffler. I think that a lot of tinkering really helped my decisions. I started early, and would come back to my lineup after ignoring it for a few days and say to myself, "Oh, I don't want that guy on my team after all." Not all my decisions have worked out so far (Fitzgerald :bag: ), but the tinkering over a long period did work out for me.
:goodposting: I have Scheffler and Miller.
I really drank the Ben Watson coolaid this year. I wish I had stuck with Miller as my #1 TE. :ptts:
I wouldn't give up on Watson yet (like you really could anyway). If you have Watson, and are still alive, then he could help down the line. I think he'll be OK! In my mind, I look at it this way: I paid penies for a guy that could have been (and still could be) a top 5 TE. Yet, in the meantime, I have still gotten a dime's worth of player that I paid pennies for.
 
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Thought it'd be interesting to look at how the top-10 from each of the previous weeks fared going forward.4 of the top 10 scorers from week 1 have since been eliminated (3 of them in the top 6)4 of the top 10 scorers from week 2 have since been eliminated (including #2 from that week)None of the top 10 scorers from week 3 have been eliminated (the highest ranked Departee was #14)Okay, just for kicks I'll look at the bubble kids starting with week 2 (week 1 there was no bubble)Only 6 of the 19 people who finished at the cut line week 2 have been since eliminated (or amazingly a lower percentage than those who finished in the top 10 that week!)Only 1 of the 11 people who finished at the cut line week 3 was eliminated in week 4 (9.1%, less than the overall cut percentage of about 12.5%)It'll be interesting to see how this pans out going forward. Clearly there's small comfort to be had for those finishing at the top and no reason to lose hope for those who have barely squeaked by.-QG
Can you do a breakdown by % of people within a certain % of the cut line?Example: 75 % of the people who made the cut are between 10 points of the cut line.
Gotta admit I just went through the list and looked at each person by hand :) I'm sure one of the folks more brilliant than I might be able to pull that off :) -QG
 
As byes hit other guys, things will start to even out. Let's see what happens with teams that have Rudi, Palmer, CJ, Housh, Vick and Dunn this week.
I have Rudi, so I am really counting on Chester Taylor and Frank Gore this week. I think Gore rebounds with a very strong game.
:lmao: I pray may be a better term here.
Maybe, but I definitely think it's reasonable to expect a better game from Gore this week. At home, playing a softer defense, 1 week further removed from his rib injury, all sound like reasons to expect improved production to me.
Oh I agree he will have a better game. Just thought it was funny you "think he will a very strong game" considering the fact you need him to have a great game this week.I guess it was funnier in my head. :mellow:
I dig! No offense taken :) I'm agnostic, so can I just cross my fingers?
 
What I find interesting about this are guys like Tony Scheffler. He hasn't done squat this year (1 catch for 9 yards), but yet his owners are in general doing very well. Why? Because people who picked Scheffler are probably people who filled out lineups late and were generally paying attention. Correlation is not causation, as we all know. Having Scheffler on your team does not cause success (at least it hasn't yet), but apparently it correlates with some factors that do.Just an observation.
Interesting. I hadn't thought about that. I have Scheffler. I think that a lot of tinkering really helped my decisions. I started early, and would come back to my lineup after ignoring it for a few days and say to myself, "Oh, I don't want that guy on my team after all." Not all my decisions have worked out so far (Fitzgerald :bag: ), but the tinkering over a long period did work out for me.
:goodposting: I have Scheffler and Miller.
I really drank the Ben Watson coolaid this year. I wish I had stuck with Miller as my #1 TE. :ptts:
I wouldn't give up on Watson yet (like you really could anyway). If you have Watson, and are still alive, then he could help down the line. I think he'll be OK! In my mind, I look at it this way: I paid penies for a guy that could have been (and still could be) a top 5 TE. Yet, in the meantime, I have still gotten a dime's worth of player that I paid pennies for.
I own Watson in my Dynasty league, so I am hoping his stats improve. He's receiving plenty of targets, but Watson's also seeing a lot of heavy coverage go his way. I think the emergence of Gabriel helps Watson.
 
Can you do a breakdown by % of people within a certain % of the cut line?

Example: 75 % of the people who made the cut are between 10 points of the cut line.

20.35% of the surviving players were within 10 points of the cut in week 4.

21.70% of the surviving players were within 10 points of the cut in week 3.

24.05% of the surviving players were within 10 points of the cut in week 2.

 
Thought it'd be interesting to look at how the top-10 from each of the previous weeks fared going forward.4 of the top 10 scorers from week 1 have since been eliminated (3 of them in the top 6)4 of the top 10 scorers from week 2 have since been eliminated (including #2 from that week)None of the top 10 scorers from week 3 have been eliminated (the highest ranked Departee was #14)Okay, just for kicks I'll look at the bubble kids starting with week 2 (week 1 there was no bubble)Only 6 of the 19 people who finished at the cut line week 2 have been since eliminated (or amazingly a lower percentage than those who finished in the top 10 that week!)Only 1 of the 11 people who finished at the cut line week 3 was eliminated in week 4 (9.1%, less than the overall cut percentage of about 12.5%)It'll be interesting to see how this pans out going forward. Clearly there's small comfort to be had for those finishing at the top and no reason to lose hope for those who have barely squeaked by.-QG
Can you do a breakdown by % of people within a certain % of the cut line?Example: 75 % of the people who made the cut are between 10 points of the cut line.
Gotta admit I just went through the list and looked at each person by hand :) I'm sure one of the folks more brilliant than I might be able to pull that off :) -QG
In previous years, FBG posted the excel file of everyone's roster, and while it was a computational nightmare to sort, anyone with excel skills could score stuff and post all kinds of statistical info. For whatever reason (proprietary new scoring database, or just not wanting the masses to be able to "pre-release" the results), this year all you can do is click through to a team to see an individual roster. While a VERY dedicated person could still compile a results file, unless we get some help this may be difficult. If I'm still alive at the end, I think it would be a doable task to set up the table for the final cut. Even then it will likely be a weekend task, but with that much dough on the line I think I could motivate myself...However, if Mr. Drinen would like to post a full roster file, in previous years I took it upon myself to post current cut lines periodically throughout Sunday, and during the game on Monday night. There were occasional errors that cropped up, but I was never off by more than a few tenths of a point when I used released FFLM stats. This was due to significant scoring from hyphenated and 2 word player names basically, and after the first couple of weeks I got those bugs ironed out. Real-time (well, as fast as I could enter the stats from NFL.com) MNF scoring was a bit more dicey, as beer and typing are a bad combination for accuracy, but it was cool to see the line as it moved up!Still in and happy with my team so far. Now if Gates can just pick it up for me, I see he's my only player of note that very few people have left...
 
With Hasselbeck on a Bye and Culpepper riding pine, I was not opptimistic about my chances of moving on this week.

But Mr. Leinart, welcome to the NFL (2 TDs in the first quarter so far), and the big Recpt. numbers from Mr. Bush, and the big day (again) from Mr. Jennings...maybe I can squeak by for another week.

 
Gore/Barber and Deuce having good games, Jennings putting up another big game. (Still have Parker and Miller tonight but not expecting huge numbers against SD).

But with Burleson on bye, Matt Jones out, and Clayton and Williamson both not doing much, I need something big from Glenn and/or Gore.

I need a big game from Leftwich with Culpepper on the bench and Simms out. Sadly I'm a Jets fan. I need something from Culpepper next week or I'm screwed.

 
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