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Hmm...I count 5 Steelers wins against playoff teams:

at Indy (with Manning/Edge/Harrison)-AFC #1 Seed

at Denver- AFC #2 Seed

at Cincinnati (twice)- AFC #3 Seed

vs. Chicago- NFC #2 Seed
Steelers lost to Indy...unless you're actually counting the playoffs themselves? If that's what you're doing then the Steelers are 6-4 against .500 teams

and the Seahawks are 6-2 against .500 teams

(or for 3MTA3 they're 5-4 and 5-2 tossing out the Seahawks win to the Manning-less Colts and the Steelers win against the Palmer-less Bengals :D )
Incorrect.The Steelers have 5 wins against playoff teams (Indy, Den, Cinx2, Chi) and 7 wins against .500+ teams (playoff teams plus San Diego and Minn).

The Steelers have beaten 5 division champs, the Seahawks 1.
Giants didn't win their division? Colts? NFL.com/schedule/standings/results down?
ahhh 1.5 Doctor D...Beating Jim Sorgi, Dom Rhodes and Troy Walters is nothing to pound your chest over.
 
Hmm...I count 5 Steelers wins against playoff teams:

at Indy (with Manning/Edge/Harrison)-AFC #1 Seed

at Denver- AFC #2 Seed

at Cincinnati (twice)- AFC #3 Seed

vs. Chicago- NFC #2 Seed
Steelers lost to Indy...unless you're actually counting the playoffs themselves? If that's what you're doing then the Steelers are 6-4 against .500 teams

and the Seahawks are 6-2 against .500 teams

(or for 3MTA3 they're 5-4 and 5-2 tossing out the Seahawks win to the Manning-less Colts and the Steelers win against the Palmer-less Bengals :D )
Incorrect.The Steelers have 5 wins against playoff teams (Indy, Den, Cinx2, Chi) and 7 wins against .500+ teams (playoff teams plus San Diego and Minn).

The Steelers have beaten 5 division champs, the Seahawks 1.
Giants didn't win their division? Colts? NFL.com/schedule/standings/results down?
ahhh 1.5 Doctor D...Beating Jim Sorgi, Dom Rhodes and Troy Walters is nothing to pound your chest over.
Right back at ya: 4.5, Cincinnati with John Kitna in the playoffs no less, nothing to pound your ____ over. Dallas is your SD also.
 
The Seahawks defense doesn't frighten me; the offense does. Pittsburgh has been averaging about 31 points a game for the last month or two, and I don't see anything about the Seahwawk defense that will stop that. They are a balanced offense now, meaning that the old strategy of taking away the run and making them one-dimensional no longer works. I can easily see the Steelers putting 31 up again.Where they don't match up as well is when the Seahawks have the ball. The Steelers secondary is improved, but is not the strength of the defense. In D-Jax, Engram, Jurevicius, Stevens, and even Warrick, the Seahwaks have a lot of guys who are tough to cover. The key to stopping the Seattle passing game is getting pressure on Hasselbeck, but with the strength of that Seattle line and Hasselbeck's elusiveness, this will not be easy - even more difficult than it was vs. Indy or Denver. Alexander, while a great back, does not scare me like the passing game does. Big, power backs tend to do much better against Pittsburgh (Edge, Droughns, Rudi) than do smaller speed/vision backs. The Steelers have the speed at linebacker to get to the egde and shut down most sweeps, but where they can be had (though not often) is on stretch plays and runs up the middle. With the OLBs rushing the passer more often than not, if the OL can get penetration and get the RB to the second level, an offense can have success running the ball. This, however, works better for big north-south backs who hit those short-lived holes hard and carry some momentum into the second level. Vision-type backs like Alexander who dance around behind the line looking for a hole are often swallowed up by Pittsburgh. Alexander's the type of back who's so good he'll still have a few nice runs, but I can see him having a 60-70 yard day very easily. His value to the offense will be more evident in the passing game, as his mere presence will force the Steelers to keep Polamalu (and/or Hope) up on a number of plays to ensure he doesn't go off. Thus, the key will be pressure in the passing game early. If Hasselbeck has time to sit back, survey the field, and find receivers in man coverage, the Steelers will be in trouble defensively. Jurevicius in the slot matched up on McFadden, Colclough and/or Tyrone Carter scares the hell out of me, for example. The Steelers must come up with a scheme that will enable them to get pressure on Hasselbeck and not give the receivers time to get open deep. This will be a challenge, but I think LeBeau is smart enough to make the right adjustments that will allow them to get just enough stops (and/or a crucial turnover or two) to get the lead. Pittsburgh is lethal with the lead, and I think while the Seahawks will play valiantly, they will ultimately make too many mistakes late when the Steelers know what's coming and will come up just short.Pittsburgh 31Seattle 24

 
just to switch gears a bit for a moment...is anybody else a bit surprised by the poll results so far?As I write this it's 92 (55.76%) Steelers, 72 (43.64%) Seahawks.I think it's fairly safe to say that the Steelers have more fans then the Seahawks....probably significantly more fans. What I'm getting at here is I wonder how the "neutral" fans are voting. How's the game playing to people with no emotional vested interest? If there are more Steeler fans then Seahawk fans, and you took all of their votes out of the poll, would it be more like 50/50?EricThe Seehawk

 
I think both teams have interesting scouting missions (Please just read in it's entirety and know that this is hypothetical questioning based on stats, games, and matchups. Try not to take everything said here as a slam or something. That is not my intention. I'm trying to be realistic and look at it from a scouting POV if I'm the Seahawks):

SEAHAWKS SCOUTING THE STEELERS:

What do you scout? You first look at the playoff games, then you look at games versus similar offensive teams (Cincy and Indy), and then you look at their losses. The game vs Denver was by far the teams best game in the playoffs and Seattle needs to look at what the Broncos did wrong and what the Steelers did to use those gaffs to their advantage. I will discuss this game from this angle later in the week.

The Colts and Cincy are both good examples of what can or can't be done vs the Steelers. I think the Steelers can be had on the long pass and Cincy on the first play looked like they were tracking (Indy on the Harrison pass in the regular season). What did the Colts do wrong in the first half and right in the second? Why didn't Harper go to the sideline on the interception to win the game...oh...ah...sorry. Indy can and will move the ball against anyone but had trouble, serious trouble moving the ball in the playoff game. Why? If it's the pressure then consider what Hasselbeck does differently than Manning and use that to combat the rush. How do we get Larry Foote (the only NFL player I know pretty well) say "They showed us today why they're the champs," like he did vs the Pats this year? How did the Patriots throw for 346 yards?

How do run against the Steelers? Colts did it in the regular season game (32/127), Ravens had (104), Lions had (102) and Cincy (102) in the game at Pittsburgh. The zone blitzing can be beat with the run but teams still have trouble running on the Steelers. You aren't going to get 180 yards rushing vs the Steelers but if Alexander gets 100, the Seahawks will likely win. How to get Shaun 100 yards should be a top priority.

How to derail a second year QB on a hot streak? Seattle led the league in sacks and they will have to confuse BR as much as possible doing what the Broncos and Colts could not. Since Ben is a rising QB still with a lot of question marks, scouting and applying the wrong tactic to contain him could hurt. You have to believe that if confused a second year Qb in the Super Bowl could be in a lot of trouble. How did the 84 Dolphins get to the Super Bowl and how did the 49ers handle the second year QB Marino. That might sound far fetched but I'd look at every angle to put Ben way out of his comfort zone. If he is effective and calm the Steelers are a much better team now than they were in week ten or eleven.

Steelers on Seahawks can come later or one of you guys can take it.

 
I think Pitts secondary in way underratted. Ike Taylor has shut down C. Johnson, M. Harrison and Rod Smith. I think he handles D Jax with ease. This frees Pitt to send people from all over the place. This is where I think the huge advantage will be during this game.

 
a cautionary note to overzealous Steeler fans. This Seahawk team is the best team Pittsburgh will face this year. I'm convinced if the Steelers aren't serious here, they could lose it in 5 minutes and end up on the wrong side of a 35-7 drubbing. Seattle definitely deserves this, I predicted they would be in the super bowl back in October on this board and so did a lot of other people, they aren't a fluke.

 
a cautionary note to overzealous Steeler fans. This Seahawk team is the best team Pittsburgh will face this year. I'm convinced if the Steelers aren't serious here, they could lose it in 5 minutes and end up on the wrong side of a 35-7 drubbing. Seattle definitely deserves this, I predicted they would be in the super bowl back in October on this board and so did a lot of other people, they aren't a fluke.
Not many, if any, Steelers fans are really saying this is going to be an easy game. In fact, it's quite the opposite.I don't think Seattle is any better than Indianapolis or Denver though. They were much better than any of the other teams in the NFC, but they'd have found the fight to the Super Bowl a lot more challenging in the AFC.

Seattle at home is a lot better than Seattle on the road, too. The way the Steelers are playing right now, they're also going to be far and away the biggest test the Seahawks will have faced this year.

 
This Seahawk team is the best team Pittsburgh will face this year. 
:bs: Certainly entitled to your opinion but most would agree that Seattle wasn't better than Indy. Maybe in the same class with Denver, NE & Cincy but that is generous.

 
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This Seahawk team is the best team Pittsburgh will face this year. 
:bs: Certainly entitled to your opinion but most would agree that Seattle wasn't better than Indy. Maybe in the same class with Denver, NE & Cincy but that is generous.
well this is after all, merely an opinion board. denver, ne and cincy could have all beaten Pittsburgh in a one game matchup, pitt got lucky with Palmer getting hurt and with denver's turnovers. Look, I want the Steelers to dominate, nothing would make me happier right now than another Steeler championship, its been too long. However, I'm a realist, I watch a lot of Seahawks, and I know they are a damn fine football team with no weaknesses.
 
a cautionary note to overzealous Steeler fans. This Seahawk team is the best team Pittsburgh will face this year. I'm convinced if the Steelers aren't serious here, they could lose it in 5 minutes and end up on the wrong side of a 35-7 drubbing. Seattle definitely deserves this, I predicted they would be in the super bowl back in October on this board and so did a lot of other people, they aren't a fluke.
Not many, if any, Steelers fans are really saying this is going to be an easy game. In fact, it's quite the opposite.I don't think Seattle is any better than Indianapolis or Denver though. They were much better than any of the other teams in the NFC, but they'd have found the fight to the Super Bowl a lot more challenging in the AFC.

Seattle at home is a lot better than Seattle on the road, too. The way the Steelers are playing right now, they're also going to be far and away the biggest test the Seahawks will have faced this year.
If Seattle stayed in the AFC they wouldn't have made the playoffs this year.IMHO.

 
a cautionary note to overzealous Steeler fans.  This Seahawk team is the best team Pittsburgh will face this year.  I'm convinced if the Steelers aren't serious here, they could lose it in 5 minutes and end up on the wrong side of a 35-7 drubbing.  Seattle definitely deserves this, I predicted they would be in the super bowl back in October on this board and so did a lot of other people, they aren't a fluke.
Not many, if any, Steelers fans are really saying this is going to be an easy game. In fact, it's quite the opposite.I don't think Seattle is any better than Indianapolis or Denver though. They were much better than any of the other teams in the NFC, but they'd have found the fight to the Super Bowl a lot more challenging in the AFC.

Seattle at home is a lot better than Seattle on the road, too. The way the Steelers are playing right now, they're also going to be far and away the biggest test the Seahawks will have faced this year.
If Seattle stayed in the AFC they wouldn't have made the playoffs this year.IMHO.
You're obviously a guru. I think you should start your own football board complete with your well thought opinions, extensive knowledge of the NFL, and some antidotes on life that make people blush. Send me the link, I'm in. :hophead:
 
a cautionary note to overzealous Steeler fans. This Seahawk team is the best team Pittsburgh will face this year. I'm convinced if the Steelers aren't serious here, they could lose it in 5 minutes and end up on the wrong side of a 35-7 drubbing. Seattle definitely deserves this, I predicted they would be in the super bowl back in October on this board and so did a lot of other people, they aren't a fluke.
Not many, if any, Steelers fans are really saying this is going to be an easy game. In fact, it's quite the opposite.I don't think Seattle is any better than Indianapolis or Denver though. They were much better than any of the other teams in the NFC, but they'd have found the fight to the Super Bowl a lot more challenging in the AFC.

Seattle at home is a lot better than Seattle on the road, too. The way the Steelers are playing right now, they're also going to be far and away the biggest test the Seahawks will have faced this year.
If Seattle stayed in the AFC they wouldn't have made the playoffs this year.IMHO.
You're obviously a guru. I think you should start your own football board complete with your well thought opinions, extensive knowledge of the NFL, and some antidotes on life that make people blush. Send me the link, I'm in. :hophead:
I was thinking a magazine. It's easier
 
a cautionary note to overzealous Steeler fans.  This Seahawk team is the best team Pittsburgh will face this year.  I'm convinced if the Steelers aren't serious here, they could lose it in 5 minutes and end up on the wrong side of a 35-7 drubbing.  Seattle definitely deserves this, I predicted they would be in the super bowl back in October on this board and so did a lot of other people, they aren't a fluke.
Not many, if any, Steelers fans are really saying this is going to be an easy game. In fact, it's quite the opposite.I don't think Seattle is any better than Indianapolis or Denver though. They were much better than any of the other teams in the NFC, but they'd have found the fight to the Super Bowl a lot more challenging in the AFC.

Seattle at home is a lot better than Seattle on the road, too. The way the Steelers are playing right now, they're also going to be far and away the biggest test the Seahawks will have faced this year.
If Seattle stayed in the AFC they wouldn't have made the playoffs this year.IMHO.
You're obviously a guru. I think you should start your own football board complete with your well thought opinions, extensive knowledge of the NFL, and some antidotes on life that make people blush. Send me the link, I'm in. :hophead:
LOL, I don't agree with that guy, but I stand by my statement that they'd have had a much, MUCH tougher road in the AFC, and they'd just have been another team with a chance instead of the favorite. Steelers fans in general seem to be giving Seattle more than enough credit for being a very good team. My biggest knock on them is about how they've played on the road vs at home, which could have an impact on the Super Bowl.

 
a cautionary note to overzealous Steeler fans.  This Seahawk team is the best team Pittsburgh will face this year.  I'm convinced if the Steelers aren't serious here, they could lose it in 5 minutes and end up on the wrong side of a 35-7 drubbing.  Seattle definitely deserves this, I predicted they would be in the super bowl back in October on this board and so did a lot of other people, they aren't a fluke.
Not many, if any, Steelers fans are really saying this is going to be an easy game. In fact, it's quite the opposite.I don't think Seattle is any better than Indianapolis or Denver though. They were much better than any of the other teams in the NFC, but they'd have found the fight to the Super Bowl a lot more challenging in the AFC.

Seattle at home is a lot better than Seattle on the road, too. The way the Steelers are playing right now, they're also going to be far and away the biggest test the Seahawks will have faced this year.
If Seattle stayed in the AFC they wouldn't have made the playoffs this year.IMHO.
You're obviously a guru. I think you should start your own football board complete with your well thought opinions, extensive knowledge of the NFL, and some antidotes on life that make people blush. Send me the link, I'm in. :hophead:
LOL, I don't agree with that guy, but I stand by my statement that they'd have had a much, MUCH tougher road in the AFC, and they'd just have been another team with a chance instead of the favorite. Steelers fans in general seem to be giving Seattle more than enough credit for being a very good team. My biggest knock on them is about how they've played on the road vs at home, which could have an impact on the Super Bowl.
Those are legitimate points. The AFC road was tougher but in the regular season the AFC was only 34-30 against the NFC. I never thought people thought of such a large divide but I've never had my team in the Super Bowl either. With the road game stuff just remember that Seattle is a turf team and I think that evens things out. They definitely are not that great on grass.
 
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This has really gotten sad in a hurry.
Ben Roethlisberger used to put two cockroaches in the same jar and watch them fight to the death.
In retrospect, was that wrong or is using an insect for self-entertainment and preservation a viable option for a teenager/college student?On a related note, Buddy Hackett once ate at Bill Cowher's restaurant in Lancaster and said the fried green tomatoes tasted like molted azzcakes, hold the butter. Mabell King (Rog's mom on Good Times) had a similiar experience during her quest to walk the earth like Kung Fu. Just so we all know. :ph34r:

 
This game can't get here fast enough. First it was the Redskin fans telling us why the Seahawks weren't going to win. Then it was the Carolina fans turn. Now the Steeler fans are bringing up the same arguments again.Hawks 24 - 17

 
This game can't get here fast enough. First it was the Redskin fans telling us why the Seahawks weren't going to win. Then it was the Carolina fans turn. Now the Steeler fans are bringing up the same arguments again.

Hawks 24 - 17
.......and the Colts fans and the Broncos fans.......Steelers-28

Hawks-20

 
This game can't get here fast enough. First it was the Redskin fans telling us why the Seahawks weren't going to win. Then it was the Carolina fans turn. Now the Steeler fans are bringing up the same arguments again.

Hawks 24 - 17
.......and the Colts fans and the Broncos fans.......Steelers-28

Hawks-20
Perfect then. A game between two teams that have been doubted in the playoffs. And now the Hawks are the underdog. Everyone loves an underdog.
 
This has really gotten sad in a hurry.
Ben Roethlisberger used to put two cockroaches in the same jar and watch them fight to the death.
In retrospect, was that wrong or is using an insect for self-entertainment and preservation a viable option for a teenager/college student?On a related note, Buddy Hackett once ate at Bill Cowher's restaurant in Lancaster and said the fried green tomatoes tasted like molted azzcakes, hold the butter. Mabell King (Rog's mom on What's Happening?) had a similiar experience during her quest to walk the earth like Kung Fu. Just so we all know. :ph34r:
Fixed.Seriously, though, WTF does this mean? :confused: :)

 
This is going to be different than the other Seahakws road games this year:1. Getting into to town early enough to have jet lag not be a factor. When the Seahwks play evening road games in the East, it's not so big a deal. Witness the drubbing of the Eagles on MNF as an example.2. This isn't a true road game with 90% of the stadium against you. It's a neutral site game with probably 40% of the spectators being unaligned, and the other 60% breaking out 2-1 against you.

 
This game can't get here fast enough. First it was the Redskin fans telling us why the Seahawks weren't going to win. Then it was the Carolina fans turn. Now the Steeler fans are bringing up the same arguments again.

Hawks 24 - 17
.......and the Colts fans and the Broncos fans.......Steelers-28

Hawks-20
Perfect then. A game between two teams that have been doubted in the playoffs. And now the Hawks are the underdog. Everyone loves an underdog.
Not everyone :towelwave:

 
a cautionary note to overzealous Steeler fans.  This Seahawk team is the best team Pittsburgh will face this year.  I'm convinced if the Steelers aren't serious here, they could lose it in 5 minutes and end up on the wrong side of a 35-7 drubbing.  Seattle definitely deserves this, I predicted they would be in the super bowl back in October on this board and so did a lot of other people, they aren't a fluke.
Not many, if any, Steelers fans are really saying this is going to be an easy game. In fact, it's quite the opposite.I don't think Seattle is any better than Indianapolis or Denver though. They were much better than any of the other teams in the NFC, but they'd have found the fight to the Super Bowl a lot more challenging in the AFC.

Seattle at home is a lot better than Seattle on the road, too. The way the Steelers are playing right now, they're also going to be far and away the biggest test the Seahawks will have faced this year.
If Seattle stayed in the AFC they wouldn't have made the playoffs this year.IMHO.
I agree and would add that Seattle is no more talented this year than they were last season. The competition was just much worse this year. The Seahawks could still win the Superbowl, but the Steelers are more talented. If it wasn't for Tommy Maddox, both these teams would have finished 13-3 in the regular season with the Steelers getting that record against a much tougher schedule. The Steelers are not a typical #6 seed and the Seahawks are not a typical #1 seed. The truth lies somewhere in between.

 
a cautionary note to overzealous Steeler fans.  This Seahawk team is the best team Pittsburgh will face this year.  I'm convinced if the Steelers aren't serious here, they could lose it in 5 minutes and end up on the wrong side of a 35-7 drubbing.  Seattle definitely deserves this, I predicted they would be in the super bowl back in October on this board and so did a lot of other people, they aren't a fluke.
Not many, if any, Steelers fans are really saying this is going to be an easy game. In fact, it's quite the opposite.I don't think Seattle is any better than Indianapolis or Denver though. They were much better than any of the other teams in the NFC, but they'd have found the fight to the Super Bowl a lot more challenging in the AFC.

Seattle at home is a lot better than Seattle on the road, too. The way the Steelers are playing right now, they're also going to be far and away the biggest test the Seahawks will have faced this year.
If Seattle stayed in the AFC they wouldn't have made the playoffs this year.IMHO.
You're obviously a guru. I think you should start your own football board complete with your well thought opinions, extensive knowledge of the NFL, and some antidotes on life that make people blush. Send me the link, I'm in. :hophead:
LOL, I don't agree with that guy, but I stand by my statement that they'd have had a much, MUCH tougher road in the AFC, and they'd just have been another team with a chance instead of the favorite. Steelers fans in general seem to be giving Seattle more than enough credit for being a very good team. My biggest knock on them is about how they've played on the road vs at home, which could have an impact on the Super Bowl.
Those are legitimate points. The AFC road was tougher but in the regular season the AFC was only 34-30 against the NFC. I never thought people thought of such a large divide but I've never had my team in the Super Bowl either. With the road game stuff just remember that Seattle is a turf team and I think that evens things out. They definitely are not that great on grass.
AFC playoff teams vs. the NFC in 2005: 20-4NFC playoff teams vs. the AFC in 2005: 12-12

 
Let's get all of the excuses out of the way now...When Seattle wins the Super Bowl, what are you guys going to say then?

 
Let's get all of the excuses out of the way now...

When Seattle wins the Super Bowl, what are you guys going to say then?
That they got lucky in the only game of the year where they actually played against a good team. :lmao: No seriously I will congratulate Seattle fans if they end up winning. And they have a very good shot. I just happen to think the Steelers are a more talented team.

I really don't care who wins. I'm just not that impressed with Seattle this year or the entire NFC for that matter.

 
Let's get all of the excuses out of the way now...

When Seattle wins the Super Bowl, what are you guys going to say then?
I can't think of any right now, but I really doubt I'll need any win or lose.
 
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Congratualtions! :excited: One more Seahawk fan to help the ratio... :football:

 
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Is this thread still filled with geek talk, or is the entertainment prerequisite being met? I don't want to sift through geek talk to get to the funny stuff.

 
Caution Steeler Players.....don't under estimate the Seahawks.

Practicing those Disney World commercials this week is a sign of over confidence.
Not when it's part of a TV commercial spoof featuring 4 Steelers and 4 Seahawks.
 
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