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I thought I heard Tony say "are we good? It's Jeremy right?" He told Ben he didn't want to vote Jeremy before TC... but I could be wrong. The whole TC was confusing and even though the subtitles were helpful they flashed too fast sometimes for me to keep up, especially without my glasses.on the bold..
Tony told Ben they were NOT voting Jeremy and that he needed vote against Kim.. Ben refused and apparently still voted Jeremy, so that is on him, not Tony.
I don't think this was the case. Nick early on tried to pay Tony to step down, and at the end I think he knew he couldn't last much longer on the challenge, so he might as well get some fuel. I don't think that was a bad play. Kim and Michelle on the other hand both seemed like they could have continued on, and made poor decisions. They both felt comfortable with their position and it bit Kim.
starting to wonder if these people even get a second chance. if so, when? and how is it going to be fair to the people that had to play the game every day while those already voted out have been sitting on the sidelines for days or even weeks by now.Jeremy is flipin lucky.. Even Tony wasn't 100% if he had the votes.. Think they are once again dragging out extinction Island too long.. It is bad enough they get a second chance, but the longer they go without needing to back stab/ play the game the worst this gets
Is Jeremy going to give it back to Michelle now?Jeremy is flipin lucky.. Even Tony wasn't 100% if he had the votes.. Think they are once again dragging out extinction Island too long.. It is bad enough they get a second chance, but the longer they go without needing to back stab/ play the game the worst this gets
In his mind I believe he thinks he made the right call. It came out at TC that he and the girls stepped down for food and the jury heard it. And as mentioned earlier, as soon as he stepped off the challenge was over and Tony won. Nick shouldn't have been able to eat peanut butter. I think it cost him points with the jury, but honestly, I don't think he's done anything to win over that many jury votes to this point. He's just been hanging around looking confused since the merge.
She seems extremely forgiving (see: Wendell drama). I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't even bring it up to Jeremy. But I think she should ask for it back.
Please no. Anyone that has been on extinction for a while should be voted out immediately.
I think Boston Blob looks like a beaten down dog on EoE. His skillful playing and athletic prowess are solely in his mind at this point.
Why? I like Natalie, but i dont see a case to vote for her over say Tony. Granted we dont know what she would pull off if she gets in. Shes one of my favorites too.
While Natalie is great, a player who was voted out first, then had a chance to get back in again and failed, then gets another chance, gets back in and only has to complete against 5-8 people with relationships built on the jury should not be voted for.
starting to wonder if these people even get a second chance. if so, when? and how is it going to be fair to the people that had to play the game every day while those already voted out have been sitting on the sidelines for days or even weeks by now.Jeremy is flipin lucky.. Even Tony wasn't 100% if he had the votes.. Think they are once again dragging out extinction Island too long.. It is bad enough they get a second chance, but the longer they go without needing to back stab/ play the game the worst this gets
Some haven't had to "Play the game" for many, many days... so they haven't had to really play the overall game of outsmart/outwit..
yeah, i just don't see how "well, i sat on extinction island and every few days we had a task to do for a few hours" equates to what the "live" players are still doing daily.
The longer this goes with them away from the main game, the more they will only have "outlast" on their resume.
Ben voted Kim. The only votes Jeremy got were from Denise, Michelle and Kim. Everyone else voted Kim, including Ben and Nick.
Tony told Ben they were NOT voting Jeremy and that he needed vote against Kim.. Ben refused and apparently still voted Jeremy, so that is on him, not Tony.
Was thinking this exact thing when it happened. In fact in a past season someone sacrificed their shot at food and prolonged the challenge specifically so everyone else had time to eat.TLEF316 said:
And why is he concerned with comp beast Jeremy winning final 3, but aligned with 3 time comp winner who will crush him in a vote.
'Are you sure? You know you're only safe tonight, right?"
Actually, that irritated me. He was in a position of zero power and he was threatening her. He was trying to be a bully imo.
I think editing is messing with our perception of how this all went down. If he had zero power like it seemed, there's no way he'd sit on the 50/50 advantage.
Back stab may be the wrong word. Tony acts like he's with Ben but for the last couple of votes, he's gone against what Ben desperately wants... to vote off Jeremy. I don't know why Ben dislikes Jeremy so much but Tony has convinced everyone on Ben's alliance to change their votes off Jeremy to someone else. Once the whispering was done Ben had no choice but to vote with Tony and oust Kim or risk losing trust with his alliance. Tony didn't back stab him at TC, but he's undermined Ben the last couple of votes. And seemingly at the last minute. Ben looked pissed for having to change his vote. So no back stab at TC, but there's a small knife in Ben's back and Tony subtly applies pressure at the right moment to alter the vote how he (Tony) sees fit and his timing has been perfect. And Ben is looking powerless to stop it.so definitely no back stab..
He didn't. It was a 5-3 vote. Kim, Denise, and Michelle voted Jeremy.Did he? Why did Tony pat Ben on the knee and say 'good job' after Kim's torch was snuffed?snogger said:
Tony told Ben they were NOT voting Jeremy and that he needed vote against Kim.. Ben refused and apparently still voted Jeremy, so that is on him, not Tony.
I have a hard time seeing a scenario where Nick can win this game. Lots of smart, experienced players on that jury that won't vote at the end solely based sour grapes or spite. Just don't see him swaying any votes in his speech on how he's played this time around. He's often confused on what's going on around him and he goes with the wind with whoever he's talking to at the moment. He has stated that "now is the time when I shake up this game and I'm going after everybody... I'll go on a rampage right after my peanut butter cookie, you'll see." Then in prep for TC... "who are we voting for??"
Easy for us to say from the comfort of our sofas. I couldn’t imagine the wave of emotions you go through out there. Experienced winners or not, they’re still humans under some pretty tough conditions.
I completely understand the emotions and getting upset, but this reaction (oh which no one can say was a joke) seemed WAY over the top to me, especially when she was not the target, and this was with a player she was relatively friendly with.
Yeah, it's terrible. It's almost ruining the show for me. Open dialogue and back-and-forth with Probst should be allowed, but none of this whispering junk.
I completely agree. TC is useless now. Might as well just do an open vote with how terrible it has gotten. I hope they quash this tactic next season
He's playing like Gavin in S38. And the edit has been clowning him. He has, as Spencer once said about Kass, zero chance of winning the game.
Many people tend to look at Survivor through the same lens as we do sports, especially those of us who are sports fans. But it's not really a sport with a ton of set rules and meaningful statistics. It's a TV product. Probst, who is now showrunner as well as host, is going to give the castaways a lot of leeway, especially on returnee seasons, if he thinks it will make for good TV. So there's little point in getting bent out of shape about stuff like this.
I don't think anyone is getting bent out of shape. It's just an observation and something that, at least in my opinion, shouldn't be allowed. It's an advantage if you can take away the uncertainty of how to strategically play an idol by just asking people who they voted for and/or asking your alliance members if they feel you should play it or not (and for whom) after the votes are cast. I liked the whispering at TC at first but not it has become a common part of TC. I don't care much for where the show is headed if they allow talking and strategy to be a part of post-vote TC. But that's just my opinion.
