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That was one of the better juries. They all made very good cases.
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Survivor Season 48 -David was just joking with his season long death stares! (5 Viewers)
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DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
OG Green tribe still showing there acumen with those votes. 
I was expecting a clean sweep for Kyle, especially after he undercut Eva’s Shaheen vote rationale.OG Green tribe still showing there acumen with those votes.
Cedrick never changed.OG Green tribe still showing there acumen with those votes.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I thought Kamilla made a huge mistake telling Kyle she wouldn't put him on the jury before the final 4 challenge? She should have waited. If she won and was making the choice she could tell him then. If she lost, she should have been trying to use her leverage as his partner to sit beside him and put Joe vs Eva in the fire challenge.
krista4
Footballguy
OG Green tribe still showing there acumen with those votes.
Bless Cedrek's little heart.
This season was full of questionable moves, even by the top people. I still don’t understand Kamilla caring so much that she OR Kyle would be in the final 3.
As soon as she told Kyle that she sealed her fate because all of the other three would make her make fire. She said dozens of times we have to get rid of Joe but never did as well.
It really felt like that final 4 didn’t actually care if they won $1M as long as their number 1 got it. So bizarre and I don’t recall other seasons have so few moves made. Even Shauheen wasn’t a big deal in the end because both pairs made it.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I think we only see 10% of what was said. I thought the same thing.
It’s hard to tell because they all answered each question, but yeah, we were thinking Kyle might have blown it because he only appeared to tell the one event and also mentioned Kamilla and him. The Thomas vote out was huge as was keeping Kamilla while David got voted out.
The funniest part was that Kyle’s best moves were fooling the purple tribe guys who honestly were just plain morons regardless of what Shauheen thought of himself. So many simple moves to guarantee they stay and Kyle or Kamilla goes home but the purple tribe guys brains didn’t work.
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Footballguy
Kyle played as well as you can for new-era Survivor and for this cast in particular that included a bunch of people who gave stinkeye to strategy talk.
Big moves are entertaining for us viewers, but the people who make them tend to get voted out quickly thereafter thanks to "tall poppy syndrome". The best way to get what you want and stay in the game is to make small moves. Kyle and Kamilla were able to do so by incepting ideas that would lead others to make decisions that weren't in their best interest. And nobody ever caught on because Kyle was a prominent member of the majority alliance and everyone in it trusted him. The edit depicted a fascinating contrast between Chrissy, who railed against the majority alliance and whined that no one was making moves or building a resume but was unable to persuade anyone to play in that style, and Kyle and Kamilla who never complained about the majority alliance but subtly undermined it.
Kyle is one of the best winners of post-Heroes vs. Villains Survivor, as would Kamilla have been had she been able to pull it off.
Big moves are entertaining for us viewers, but the people who make them tend to get voted out quickly thereafter thanks to "tall poppy syndrome". The best way to get what you want and stay in the game is to make small moves. Kyle and Kamilla were able to do so by incepting ideas that would lead others to make decisions that weren't in their best interest. And nobody ever caught on because Kyle was a prominent member of the majority alliance and everyone in it trusted him. The edit depicted a fascinating contrast between Chrissy, who railed against the majority alliance and whined that no one was making moves or building a resume but was unable to persuade anyone to play in that style, and Kyle and Kamilla who never complained about the majority alliance but subtly undermined it.
Kyle is one of the best winners of post-Heroes vs. Villains Survivor, as would Kamilla have been had she been able to pull it off.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
I was surprised by the Camilla love if she had been final 3. I thought Kyle was the better of the two. Editing I guess.
James Bond
Footballguy
It looked pretty obvious that Kamilla was throwing the fire making challenge. She didn't want to be in the final three with Kyle because she thought that they would split their votes. And she wanted to lobby the jury for him to make sure he won. Then when Jeff asked what would have happened if Kamilla was in the final three, they seemed to all agree that she wins easily. Did she make a huge mistake?
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Kyle seemed to be better, but maybe Kamilla's social game was better?
Kyle managed to save Kamilla when David had it out for her. He was subtle and managed the situation very well.
Well, Cedrick doesn’t count. Heck I was almost surprised he didn’t change his vote when Jeff asked him why he voted for Joe. It’s a very strong wanting to be right so it’s not surprising to see Mary and Star also switch when asked.
Kyle was absolutely the better player. No chance she’s able to pull the moves he did to save her if she was in the alliance with Joe and Eva instead of him.
Riffraff
Footballguy
Everyone did well in the final tribal - no one hemmed and hawed their way through it.
Glad Kyle won. Best of the season through editing. Pretty much the only moves of the season was when he/Kamilla were involved. Well spoken enough to be the podcast player perspective next year.
Eva was hoping for the sympathy and luck of the advantages votes. No one ever tried to flush the idol - tells you something.
Joe wanted the challenge beast and best supporting actor votes. Nice guy and can see how he made Fire Chief.
Neither of those 2 did much in terms of moves, just rode the popularity wave. Nice duo though.
Kamilla didn't have much editing her way, probably could have used more. Gotta like she went out during fire failure to end her story. Gotta hate that she's striking flint from 6-8 inches away - why's it not working? Sparks only fly so far.
David was so happy to get to the spot where he can speak. Producers have the jury appear angry or stoic until they can speak. Likely going to get some online faux anger at the toxic masculinity milk drinking angle comment.
The season likely goes down as mostly unmemorable with few moves, fake secondary tribal nominees, and a winner that wasn't overly charismatic or odd in any way.
(Now go watch Aussie Survivor this season for the opposite - lots of action of all types)
Glad Kyle won. Best of the season through editing. Pretty much the only moves of the season was when he/Kamilla were involved. Well spoken enough to be the podcast player perspective next year.
Eva was hoping for the sympathy and luck of the advantages votes. No one ever tried to flush the idol - tells you something.
Joe wanted the challenge beast and best supporting actor votes. Nice guy and can see how he made Fire Chief.
Neither of those 2 did much in terms of moves, just rode the popularity wave. Nice duo though.
Kamilla didn't have much editing her way, probably could have used more. Gotta like she went out during fire failure to end her story. Gotta hate that she's striking flint from 6-8 inches away - why's it not working? Sparks only fly so far.
David was so happy to get to the spot where he can speak. Producers have the jury appear angry or stoic until they can speak. Likely going to get some online faux anger at the toxic masculinity milk drinking angle comment.
The season likely goes down as mostly unmemorable with few moves, fake secondary tribal nominees, and a winner that wasn't overly charismatic or odd in any way.
(Now go watch Aussie Survivor this season for the opposite - lots of action of all types)
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
Surprised Cedrick didn't vote for Sai.
Statorama
Footballguy
Well said. If you go into final tribal with a bitter jury - you have no shot at turning them around on "but it was strategy" or "I had to make big moves" talk.
The Kyle / Camilla thing was a perfect storm, as Kyle was able to tell her all of the things going on at the cool kids table while Camilla was able to feed him all of the things from the nerd/outsider table. They also understood / didn't get "butt hurt" when they weren't picked by the other for reward. (Edit to add: Kyle didn't bring Camilla on the "notes from home" reward - how many other players wouldn't have taken offense to that?)
This will definitely be tried again as a strategy, but it'll take the just the right people to pull it off.
The look on Joe / Eva's faces when it started dawning on them that they'd been duped with the Shauhin vote was priceless.
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UncleZen
Footballguy
I am the uncle of a young man with autism so this season really hit me emotionally. All of the footage around the fire making practice and the challenge itself really made me proud of Eva, even though I don't know her. If I was on that jury and watched that, I would have voted for her. This is likely the 1st time for me in that I liked all of the final 3 so I can't complain that Kyle won, even though I wanted Eva to win.
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Footballguy
Apparently those votes were locked in before FTC. Mary and Eva were very close and the edit didn't show it for the most part. And Star decided to vote for Eva after she won the firemaking challenge.
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Footballguy
I would be stunned if someone other than Kyle or Kamilla is the Survivor alum on the Season 49 Probst podcast.
Survivor 50 cast announced. A couple familiar faces from the recent season and of course Cirie is back.
Yambag
Footballguy
As a lifelong fan, this cast sucks. They had a year to pull together what was supposed to be a celebration of 50 seasons and we get 5 players from 48/49 and the usual suspects in Cirie, Ozzy, etc. What stings more is they actually cut people who wanted to play and that fans wanted to see such as Rob C, Jerri, Neleh, Malcom, Penner and so on. Ridiculous. As many have already said, it was too long in between returning seasons, but one solution would have been New Era All-Stars for 49 and Legends for 50.
Shankopotamus
Footballguy
Not gonna lie, if Cirie and Ozzy are the first two boots, I would be completely fine with that.
Statorama
Footballguy
There were some headscratchers for sure, but it's a decent cast. I don't need to see Cirie again in my lifetime, but it's good to see Colby getting one last swing at the pinata.
Was this filmed back to back with season 49? That would be great for Camilla's game.
Edit to add: One big switch I'd make is to swap out Dee with that puppy dog dude that she strung along to the finale. That guy probably needs a win in his life after that spectacle.
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Footballguy
50 hasn't been filmed yet. 49 was just filmed. The cast knows what happened on 48, which is bad for Kyle and Kamilla. One of them is getting booted early to break up the "power couple." Like Amber in Winners at War. The cast does not know what happened on 49 (other than what the two players from 49 choose to reveal to their tribemates).
Cirie is here in order to draw fans of The Traitors and Big Brother who haven't watched Survivor up to this point.
This cast has a bit of the randomness of Game Changes but without nearly the degree of threat-level imbalance. It was obvious who was going to be picked off early in Game Changers. Here, it is not, other than it's likely the two winners go early (as tends to happen when winners are severely outnumbered on a returnee season -- except in Heroes vs. Villains.) So I am very interested to see how this plays out even if I would have made some different casting choices.
The people who have never played a second time that I would like to see again include Cydney (32), Jay (33), Dom (36), Davie (37), Omar (42), Lindsay (42), Jesse (43), Carolyn (44), Kaleb (45), Kellie (45), Venus (46), Andy (47) and Sol (47).
Yambag
Footballguy
Good article by The Ringer that sums up my feelings: https://www.theringer.com/2025/05/28/survivor/survivor-50-cast-announcement
Riffraff
Footballguy
As much as we likely want all possible returnees to be selected and the host says they cut down from yadda yadda yadda names, I fail to believe that all of them were on the edge of their seat hoping to get another shot. Doubt the yadda yaadda yadda names were re-applicants, just the number of previous players.
I'd think more would refuse the invite (and have moved on with their lives) than want to play again - like most of the population only those that can leave their job/families apply.
Someone's fav from yester-year likely didn't want anything to do with playing again - just the minor appearance on socials or one-off celebration location. Maybe just a video call if anything at all...
I'd think more would refuse the invite (and have moved on with their lives) than want to play again - like most of the population only those that can leave their job/families apply.
Someone's fav from yester-year likely didn't want anything to do with playing again - just the minor appearance on socials or one-off celebration location. Maybe just a video call if anything at all...
Runkle
Footballguy
I've heard on various podcasts some similar info from the same names saying they were in the running and got cut. I can't disagree that a lot of the cut players would have been better TV than the ones that made it.
The "New Era" season 40+ players vs. the "Old School" 1-39 seems like a terrible idea. So many players from the most recent seasons, which everyone agrees are the worst seasons.
Much more hyped for "Survivor Australia vs. the World" with some true stars from all the English-speaking versions globally. Looks way better. Survivor Australia is just a better show... they haven't ditched the physical challenges, and the longer game give better play.
Runkle
Footballguy
Also,
Jeff Probst is a serviceable game show host but a terrible television producer. Every instinct he has about what makes for good television in pre-production (game design, theme, casting) and post-production (story construction, editing) is wrong. He should stick to the daily work on the beaches, in the challenges, and in the tribal council discussions, and completely bow out of trying to run the business of Survivor.
Jeff Probst is a serviceable game show host but a terrible television producer. Every instinct he has about what makes for good television in pre-production (game design, theme, casting) and post-production (story construction, editing) is wrong. He should stick to the daily work on the beaches, in the challenges, and in the tribal council discussions, and completely bow out of trying to run the business of Survivor.
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Footballguy
Also amusing to me is that I am 54 years old and on most recent newbie casts, everyone is younger than me, most of them by a lot. On season 50, Chrissy, Cirie and Mike are the same age as me, Coach is 1 year younger and Colby is 3 years younger.
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Footballguy
People who played long ago, yes. For most of them, Survivor is no longer a major part of their identity and they don't think about wanting to play again to any great extent.
But for people who played more recently -- thinking especially of those from 35 and later who never had an opportunity to return unless they were a pre-40 winner -- most of them continue to be heavily involved in the Survivor community and go to events with other Survivor alums IRL. And part of the reason for that is to connect with other alums in case they happen to be playing on the same future returnee season.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Looks like the Jenna Lewis porn video should be racking up some new views next year.
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Footballguy
And Ozzy's OnlyFans account.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Because I'm insane, I have done a preliminary assessment of chance of winning for the 50 cast, with highest listed first. Obviously the two from 49 are not included.
Tiffany: Under-the-radar women have won or done very well on lots of returnee seasons. This cast is more balanced in terms of threat level than, say, All-Stars or Game Changes, but Tiffany is the closest thing we have to that archetype on this cast. She stood out for being entertaining, not for gameplay, and was a decent player but not so good that she raises alarms with her castmates.
Emily: The second-closest to the "under-the-radar woman" archetype on this cast, but she has more of an underdog story and more of an obvious strategic bent that will make it harder for her to go completely under the radar.
Charlie: He shouldn't have a huge target on his back and he's good in challenges, so he should be kept around for the tribal phase. I can see people wanting to take him to the end due to his poor FTC performance in 46. And maybe he'll have learned from his experience and surprise everybody.
Chrissy: Won't be considered a social threat for good reason. Won't be considered a strategic or challenge threat either, but that could end up biting some of the others. If she's not targeted early, I can see her going far, especially if she learns from her mistakes and makes more genuine social bonds this time around.
Angelina: We forget that she played the DvG pre-swap really well, getting into a solid alliance and being a major driver of the Jeremy boot. The potential to play like that the entire game is there. I don't think it'll happen because her "pick me" energy is too great, but it could.
Kamilla: If Kyle's tribe doesn't go to tribal for a while, then she'll be the victim of the inevitable "break up the power couple" mentality that is sure to develop. But if he's booted before her, her threat level drops immensely and she could go far -- and we know what she can do when people don't think she's a threat. She has a very high ceiling but a very low floor.
Aubry: Her Edge of Extinction game may ironically benefit her like Tony's Game Changers performance ended up benefiting him in Winners at War. Given the rest of the cast, she shouldn't have anywhere near the threat level that she did in GC and EoE. She just has to rely on her social game like she did in GC and stop talking to people like an HR executive like she did in EoE.
Genevieve: Almost as huge a variance of potential outcomes as Kamilla. Needs to convince people she won't get big-move-itis. Dunno if she can.
Jenna: Could very well lead the "hyenas" as she did in All-Stars, and that could allow her to gain footing with the less-threatening new schoolers. (Maybe she'll be Charlie's new Maria.) But that could make her a target eventually if the "lions" band together.
Colby: Has shown little strategic acumen and is unlikely to beat the likes of Ozzy/Jonathan/Joe/Charlie/Devens in challenges. That plus the potential for a decent social game means he could go far, and could surprise at the end depending on who is left.
Joe: Kind of like Colby except his threat level will be higher because of his challenge prowess.
Coach: Kind of like Colby and Joe except that he's got a slightly better sense of strategy but is more likely to be booted early for being annoying.
Devens: Needs to be on the right side of the numbers or else at some point he'll be targeted like he was in EoE and with this crew he may have less luck with immunities and idol finds.
Jonathan: Needs to be on the right side of the numbers or else at some point he'll be targeted for his challenge prowess. Also needs to do less mansplaining if what was said in the 42 exit interviews was true. I'm betting he won't have an Omar, a Lindsay and a Maryanne to move him along in the game.
Christian: I don't think there's any way he can contain his threat level, even with this cast. He'll be kept around as long as other people need him to solve puzzles to help them achieve immunity. But as soon as that's no longer necessary, well, let's hope his breadth-first search method still works.
Cirie: Everybody loves her but everybody realizes they can't take her to the end and she isn't winning individual immunity. She'll make the merge unless her tribe loses a bunch of challenges but people will eventually cut her without guilt because of her non-Survivor prize money.
Q: If I were on a returnee season with Q, there is no way in hell I would want him on the jury, since he was open about voting based on who he thinks needs the money as opposed to who played the best game. I suspect he'll be cut before the jury phase for that reason and because he can cause so much chaos.
Ozzy: Assuming there is no EoE or Redemption Island, his game will be done soon after the merge just like it was in Game Changers, with him likely having done nothing to show he understands the modern game.
Mike: He'll go far because people will be starstruck and want him around, but he won't win for the same reason he didn't win David vs. Goliath -- people won't want to give him the money and he'll feel guilty about taking it.
Stephenie: The Danni of this season. An old schooler who may try to play like a new schooler but is completely out of her depth. I'd be shocked if she made the merge.
Dee: As a winner who is good at individual challenges, she'll be targeted early because no one will want her to get to the merge.
Kyle: He's totally boned. The cast has two reasons to target him early: He's a winner and he's part of a "power couple".
I reserve the right to change it after 49 airs, but as of now, my winner pick, as it was for 46, is Tiffany.
Emily: The second-closest to the "under-the-radar woman" archetype on this cast, but she has more of an underdog story and more of an obvious strategic bent that will make it harder for her to go completely under the radar.
Charlie: He shouldn't have a huge target on his back and he's good in challenges, so he should be kept around for the tribal phase. I can see people wanting to take him to the end due to his poor FTC performance in 46. And maybe he'll have learned from his experience and surprise everybody.
Chrissy: Won't be considered a social threat for good reason. Won't be considered a strategic or challenge threat either, but that could end up biting some of the others. If she's not targeted early, I can see her going far, especially if she learns from her mistakes and makes more genuine social bonds this time around.
Angelina: We forget that she played the DvG pre-swap really well, getting into a solid alliance and being a major driver of the Jeremy boot. The potential to play like that the entire game is there. I don't think it'll happen because her "pick me" energy is too great, but it could.
Kamilla: If Kyle's tribe doesn't go to tribal for a while, then she'll be the victim of the inevitable "break up the power couple" mentality that is sure to develop. But if he's booted before her, her threat level drops immensely and she could go far -- and we know what she can do when people don't think she's a threat. She has a very high ceiling but a very low floor.
Aubry: Her Edge of Extinction game may ironically benefit her like Tony's Game Changers performance ended up benefiting him in Winners at War. Given the rest of the cast, she shouldn't have anywhere near the threat level that she did in GC and EoE. She just has to rely on her social game like she did in GC and stop talking to people like an HR executive like she did in EoE.
Genevieve: Almost as huge a variance of potential outcomes as Kamilla. Needs to convince people she won't get big-move-itis. Dunno if she can.
Jenna: Could very well lead the "hyenas" as she did in All-Stars, and that could allow her to gain footing with the less-threatening new schoolers. (Maybe she'll be Charlie's new Maria.) But that could make her a target eventually if the "lions" band together.
Colby: Has shown little strategic acumen and is unlikely to beat the likes of Ozzy/Jonathan/Joe/Charlie/Devens in challenges. That plus the potential for a decent social game means he could go far, and could surprise at the end depending on who is left.
Joe: Kind of like Colby except his threat level will be higher because of his challenge prowess.
Coach: Kind of like Colby and Joe except that he's got a slightly better sense of strategy but is more likely to be booted early for being annoying.
Devens: Needs to be on the right side of the numbers or else at some point he'll be targeted like he was in EoE and with this crew he may have less luck with immunities and idol finds.
Jonathan: Needs to be on the right side of the numbers or else at some point he'll be targeted for his challenge prowess. Also needs to do less mansplaining if what was said in the 42 exit interviews was true. I'm betting he won't have an Omar, a Lindsay and a Maryanne to move him along in the game.
Christian: I don't think there's any way he can contain his threat level, even with this cast. He'll be kept around as long as other people need him to solve puzzles to help them achieve immunity. But as soon as that's no longer necessary, well, let's hope his breadth-first search method still works.
Cirie: Everybody loves her but everybody realizes they can't take her to the end and she isn't winning individual immunity. She'll make the merge unless her tribe loses a bunch of challenges but people will eventually cut her without guilt because of her non-Survivor prize money.
Q: If I were on a returnee season with Q, there is no way in hell I would want him on the jury, since he was open about voting based on who he thinks needs the money as opposed to who played the best game. I suspect he'll be cut before the jury phase for that reason and because he can cause so much chaos.
Ozzy: Assuming there is no EoE or Redemption Island, his game will be done soon after the merge just like it was in Game Changers, with him likely having done nothing to show he understands the modern game.
Mike: He'll go far because people will be starstruck and want him around, but he won't win for the same reason he didn't win David vs. Goliath -- people won't want to give him the money and he'll feel guilty about taking it.
Stephenie: The Danni of this season. An old schooler who may try to play like a new schooler but is completely out of her depth. I'd be shocked if she made the merge.
Dee: As a winner who is good at individual challenges, she'll be targeted early because no one will want her to get to the merge.
Kyle: He's totally boned. The cast has two reasons to target him early: He's a winner and he's part of a "power couple".
I reserve the right to change it after 49 airs, but as of now, my winner pick, as it was for 46, is Tiffany.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Was hoping Russell Hantz would get another shot.
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DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
He was great the first time and easily should have won.
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Footballguy
He was unbearable to watch with his repetitive "greatest of all time" confessionals. And he doesn't understand what a social game is. Any future outing will be just like his Redemption Island game, a complete waste of 1 to 3 episodes.
Runkle
Footballguy
He tried to play on Survivor Australia and got blindsided out in the first or second episode. They all gunned for him out of the gate.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
“He was great the first time”. He’s been an insufferable chooch ever since.
