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SUV shopping - looking for ideas where to start... (1 Viewer)

Funny, I just started looking this morning. Anticipating some extra $ coming in sometime this year so doing a little research. My go to is always to start at Carmax and look over their inventory. If you have one close by, it's a decent place to window shop. If you really want, go there and drive a couple to get a feel for the car you want then start searching for deals. I know I always think I want a car, then I drive it and it doesn't fit right or I'm not comfortable with the layout, etc.

 
KarmaPolice said:
FINALLY got around to getting a new vehicle.   We landed on a 2021 CR-V hybrid.  Wasn't that much more for the hybrid, it had more bells and whistles, and we figured the extra (I think it was $1500 more?) would be offset by less $ on gas.   

Anyway, my specific car still needed to go through the safety inspection, syncing the keys, etc..   We are picking it up on Saturday.  

My last bit of advice I am seeking is what do we expect the sales people to throw at us in a couple days.  We are bringing in our down payment, officially signing, but the salesperson said that they would asking about extended warranties and I suspect other crap.   What should I be prepared for?  Is any extended warranty worth it?  
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I work at a dealership and while I don't do any of the paint protection, fab protection, etc. I do purchase an extended warranty on my vehicles when I purchase them.  Buying a hybrid I would seriously consider it.  Of course, you will have to know what is covered and not covered, what the term of the contract is and the cost of the contract.  Most contracts run in the neighborhood of 2900-4900 depending on length and amount of coverage.  It is basically an insurance policy on something breaking down on your vehicle.  If you are able to put the money you would spend on a contract away and never touch it unless the car breaks down, do it that way because chances are you will be money ahead if you never have to fix your car.  However, most people are not able to do that and the cost to repair vehicles has never been higher.  If you have any questions, let me know and I will try to answer them.

 
snellman said:
I work at a dealership and while I don't do any of the paint protection, fab protection, etc. I do purchase an extended warranty on my vehicles when I purchase them.  Buying a hybrid I would seriously consider it.  Of course, you will have to know what is covered and not covered, what the term of the contract is and the cost of the contract.  Most contracts run in the neighborhood of 2900-4900 depending on length and amount of coverage.  It is basically an insurance policy on something breaking down on your vehicle.  If you are able to put the money you would spend on a contract away and never touch it unless the car breaks down, do it that way because chances are you will be money ahead if you never have to fix your car.  However, most people are not able to do that and the cost to repair vehicles has never been higher.  If you have any questions, let me know and I will try to answer them.
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@snellman 

1.  do you work in Madison, and are you my salesman? ;)

2.  the brochure they gave me is Compass Protection Plan.  I am pretty sure he said if we don't use it, over the course of the plan,, we get our $ back  does that sound right/is that common? 

looks like it does not cover things routinely replaced- tires, exhaust, brakes, battery, upholstery, paint, etc 

3.  you said you would consider it more with a hybrid- why is that?  more components to break down? 

 
snellman said:
I work at a dealership and while I don't do any of the paint protection, fab protection, etc. I do purchase an extended warranty on my vehicles when I purchase them.  Buying a hybrid I would seriously consider it.  Of course, you will have to know what is covered and not covered, what the term of the contract is and the cost of the contract.  Most contracts run in the neighborhood of 2900-4900 depending on length and amount of coverage.  It is basically an insurance policy on something breaking down on your vehicle.  If you are able to put the money you would spend on a contract away and never touch it unless the car breaks down, do it that way because chances are you will be money ahead if you never have to fix your car.  However, most people are not able to do that and the cost to repair vehicles has never been higher.  If you have any questions, let me know and I will try to answer them.
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I've heard extended warranties are marked up like 400%... I usually get one because of all the electronics in cars now but I'll keep saying no until they get down to a price I find reasonable 

My last Honda got 6 years/120000 for 1300.   Thought that was worth it

 
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KarmaPolice said:
@snellman 

1.  do you work in Madison, and are you my salesman? ;)

2.  the brochure they gave me is Compass Protection Plan.  I am pretty sure he said if we don't use it, over the course of the plan,, we get our $ back  does that sound right/is that common? 

looks like it does not cover things routinely replaced- tires, exhaust, brakes, battery, upholstery, paint, etc 

3.  you said you would consider it more with a hybrid- why is that?  more components to break down? 
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1.  I am too smart to live in Packer country! :P

2, The only time you get your money back is if you trade or sell your vehicle before the plan is over.  It will be prorated to the amount of time/mileage used + cost of repairs during that time.

3. 95% of service contracts will not cover those items, exhaust, battery, brakes, spark plugs are considered maintenance.  What you are purchasing when you purchase the paint protection/fabric protection is basically a service contract for your interior/exterior.

4.  I am not as familiar with Hondas (work at a GM dealer) but cars in general are more expensive to repair now than they were 10 or even 5 years ago.  The hybrid systems in these vehicle just generally adds to the cost of that repair.  I know batteries are not covered, but I would inquire if the the hybrid battery is covered or if that falls under the same category as a normal battery.  Best to know that information ahead of time. 

 
The markup on the Ford Explore and the Toyota Highlander in the Bay Area is so significant (at and over MSRP), it made more sense to use my loyalty on a BMW. Got a somewhat loaded new X3 for 18% under MSRP. Could not say no to that.

 
We have a KIA Niro hybrid.  Mr R. the man who researches everything until it cries for mercy, says no extended warranty is needed.

 
Mrs. Rannous said:
We have a KIA Niro hybrid.  Mr R. the man who researches everything until it cries for mercy, says no extended warranty is needed.
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:goodposting:  Car salespeople bend over backwards to tell you how reliable the vehicle you want is and then the finance person tries to sell you a rim warranty among other dumb things. I know they’re just trying to make their nut, but extended warranties on reliable cars simply aren’t worth it imo.

 
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Mrs. Rannous said:
We have a KIA Niro hybrid.  Mr R. the man who researches everything until it cries for mercy, says no extended warranty is needed.
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Osaurus said:
:goodposting:  Car salespeople bend over backwards to tell you how reliable the vehicle you want is and then the finance person tries to sell you a rim warranty among other dumb things. I know they’re just trying to make their nut, but extended warranties on reliable cars simply aren’t worth it imo.
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And the first thing I will ask you as a Service Manager when you ### about the cost on estimate to repair your car in the rare event something goes wrong is "Did you purchase an extended warranty?"   :P :lmao:

 
snellman said:
And the first thing I will ask you as a Service Manager when you ### about the cost on estimate to repair your car in the rare event something goes wrong is "Did you purchase an extended warranty?"   :P :lmao:
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My current and previous car were/are owned for roughly 10 years with no major repairs whatsoever. Maybe I’m lucky, but I think it’s the quality of the vehicles I purchase. My  :2cents:

 
Osaurus said:
My current and previous car were/are owned for roughly 10 years with no major repairs whatsoever. Maybe I’m lucky, but I think it’s the quality of the vehicles I purchase. My  :2cents:
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I would say a bit of both.  All models of cars have problems, if they didn't there would be no need for a dealership to have a service department to work on them. I will also agree that some models are a lot more reliable than other models no matter what the make is.

 
I'm in this rabbit hole now. 

I've reserved: a Hyundai Santa Cruz, it only costs $100 and it looks really sweet overall, but I will need to see the price)>

I've pre-ordered a Genesis GSV 7000. I doubt I'll really spend that much, but its a relative value for a lot of car.

I'm looking hard for a 2019 (last year) Flex, Limited with under 30k miles and under $28000. 

 
belljr said:
I've heard extended warranties are marked up like 400%... I usually get one because of all the electronics in cars now but I'll keep saying no until they get down to a price I find reasonable 

My last Honda got 6 years/120000 for 1300.   Thought that was worth it
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That wasn’t a lot but unless you drive a ton, the 120k is eye candy. You won’t get close to that in 6 years if your an average driver and since Honda’s power train warranty is already 5/60 and their end to end is 3/36, if the car is a lemon you’ll already know and the big parts only really have a 1 year gap that’s covered.

If it was 7/8 years maybe, but 1 year more than the factory is likely never used.

I want to add one for my wife’s new Jeep we got in December, but I haven’t found a great one yet. I don’t feel as confident in it as my other cars (Toyota, Lexus and Honda) and that’s the only reason I’m planning to add one before the factory warranty is up. It’s just hard to find a good priced one that’s not really short since I keep my cars a while.

 
stbugs said:
That wasn’t a lot but unless you drive a ton, the 120k is eye candy. You won’t get close to that in 6 years if your an average driver and since Honda’s power train warranty is already 5/60 and their end to end is 3/36, if the car is a lemon you’ll already know and the big parts only really have a 1 year gap that’s covered.

If it was 7/8 years maybe, but 1 year more than the factory is likely never used.

I want to add one for my wife’s new Jeep we got in December, but I haven’t found a great one yet. I don’t feel as confident in it as my other cars (Toyota, Lexus and Honda) and that’s the only reason I’m planning to add one before the factory warranty is up. It’s just hard to find a good priced one that’s not really short since I keep my cars a while.
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I drive ~25000-30000 miles a year. 

I put on ~78000 in 3 years before covid hit. It's my commuter car, why I went for the high mileage 

And the extended warranty is through Honda not some 3rd party which was what I really liked

 
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Just bought a 2018 CRV to replace our 2002 CRV. I am getting old, I don't like all the bells and whistles. Safety upgrades are great though.

 
Mrs. Rannous said:
Which ones?
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Now you are really calling out my age: no cd player, the temp controls are not intuitive - mostly the console stuff. I do love that the lift gate opens with a button up front, the heated seats and the ease to lay down the back seats. 

 
Wife just went to “look” and brought home a fully loaded 21.5 VW R-line Atlas 

She called from the dealership and I told her to leave as they were giving her a hard line negotiation 

She came home 5 hours later….in a new ride 

wonder if she would mind if I stopped to look at the new M4s, and brought one home without talking to her first 

oh well,  she’s happy 

 
Osaurus said:
The cooling seats are something I’m looking for in my next ride. 
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Was looking forward to cooled seats when I bought our Audi Q5 a few years back but I couldn't find it as an option at any of the local dealers in South Florida.

SOUTH FLORIDA!!!! 

So glad I was able to get the heated seats and steering wheel though because that's needed......oh.......NEVER....IN SOUTH FLORIDA....

 
cosjobs said:
I'm in this rabbit hole now. 

I've reserved: a Hyundai Santa Cruz, it only costs $100 and it looks really sweet overall, but I will need to see the price)>

I've pre-ordered a Genesis GSV 7000. I doubt I'll really spend that much, but its a relative value for a lot of car.

I'm looking hard for a 2019 (last year) Flex, Limited with under 30k miles and under $28000. 
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I've been eyeing a cross-over truck for my work and commute.

I've had my eye on that Santa Cruz and it looks awesome.

There also seems to be some new cross-over trucks coming from different brands in late '21 and '22. 

 
Osaurus said:
Mrs. Rannous said:
Gotta read those manuals, people.  It's worth it.  Having seats that are heated and cooled is fantastic.
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The cooling seats are something I’m looking for in my next ride. 
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Cooled seats make it feel like you wet your pants. I use it to cool the seat down, but shut if off after a few minutes once the seat isn't so hot. 

 
ex-ghost said:
Just bought a 2018 CRV to replace our 2002 CRV. I am getting old, I don't like all the bells and whistles. Safety upgrades are great though.
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Keep an eye out for gasoline getting into the oil. I think it happened over a number of model years IiRC. 😥

 
FBG26 said:
Cooled seats make it feel like you wet your pants. I use it to cool the seat down, but shut if off after a few minutes once the seat isn't so hot. 
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You may want to towel dry your ### before getting in next time. I’ve got cooling seats and I’ve left them on before and I honestly can say I’ve never felt like I wet my pants. Air conditioning removes moisture so something else is a foot.

 
Looking into a smaller SUV.    I guess you would say midsize?   We have a Traverse but my daughter will get her license next year so will probably end up with my car.     Anyone have a RAV4?

 
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stbugs said:
You may want to towel dry your ### before getting in next time. I’ve got cooling seats and I’ve left them on before and I honestly can say I’ve never felt like I wet my pants. Air conditioning removes moisture so something else is a foot.
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I probably just didn't explain it well. There isn't any actual moisture. I just remember it feeling wet, almost like sitting on a wet towel. But it's not just my car, I've sat in several cars with cooled seats and it's the same sensation in all of them. I haven't used the cooled seats in my car since last summer, so I don't recall the sensation exactly, but it's definitely weird. And I'm not alone. Plenty of people online mention something similar, here is just one example. 

 
FBG26 said:
I probably just didn't explain it well. There isn't any actual moisture. I just remember it feeling wet, almost like sitting on a wet towel. But it's not just my car, I've sat in several cars with cooled seats and it's the same sensation in all of them. I haven't used the cooled seats in my car since last summer, so I don't recall the sensation exactly, but it's definitely weird. And I'm not alone. Plenty of people online mention something similar, here is just one example. 
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I was mainly joking but I’ve definitely not felt like this before, just felt a cooling/almost drying feeling (like sweat going away. I’ve got a Lexus RX so maybe they’re set up differently in different manufacturers.

 
belljr said:
I've heard extended warranties are marked up like 400%... I usually get one because of all the electronics in cars now but I'll keep saying no until they get down to a price I find reasonable 

My last Honda got 6 years/120000 for 1300.   Thought that was worth it
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The primary reason we got such a bare bones vehicle 4+ years ago was because we don't want to deal with the maintenance of all the additional electronics that come in today's vehicles. We don't need them and sure don't want to allocate any money towards something we don't need. We're nearing the time to start shopping for another vehicle (2022 or 2023), so I'm wondering if this is still feasible...or do we pretty much have to buy used to minimize electronic usage.

 
belljr said:
Looking into a smaller SUV.    I guess you would say midsize?   We have a Traverse but my daughter will get her license next year so will probably end up with my car.     Anyone have a RAV4?
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We have a RAV4 and love it. Mind you, I'm not super picky. And both my wife and I are pretty minimalist (nice way of saying frugal, which is a nice way of saying cheap) when it comes to most major purchases. 

We wanted something that was a good deal. A solid, dependable, car, that would hold value. And that drove well, and was safe. The RAV4 hit all the marks. It's not a flashy choice, but I'm happy we made the purchase. I think we bought a 2018 model. My only thing I would have done different is to wait for the new model in 2019. Also, if I were to buy today, I'd seriously look at electric, or at the very least hybrid. 

 
MAC_32 said:
The primary reason we got such a bare bones vehicle 4+ years ago was because we don't want to deal with the maintenance of all the additional electronics that come in today's vehicles. We don't need them and sure don't want to allocate any money towards something we don't need. We're nearing the time to start shopping for another vehicle (2022 or 2023), so I'm wondering if this is still feasible...or do we pretty much have to buy used to minimize electronic usage.
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Judging by the simplistic features you can get when you get the cheap rental cars, I'm assuming the market has PLENTY of cars without the heavy duty electronics.

 
belljr said:
Looking into a smaller SUV.    I guess you would say midsize?   We have a Traverse but my daughter will get her license next year so will probably end up with my car.     Anyone have a RAV4?
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I purchased a Hyundai Tucson end of April and so far it has been great.  Through Costco got it for $20,300.  It was the SE model, the bare bones model.  I am 6'3 and plenty of room for me and the person sitting behind me.

 
Sweet J said:
We have a RAV4 and love it. Mind you, I'm not super picky. And both my wife and I are pretty minimalist (nice way of saying frugal, which is a nice way of saying cheap) when it comes to most major purchases. 

We wanted something that was a good deal. A solid, dependable, car, that would hold value. And that drove well, and was safe. The RAV4 hit all the marks. It's not a flashy choice, but I'm happy we made the purchase. I think we bought a 2018 model. My only thing I would have done different is to wait for the new model in 2019. Also, if I were to buy today, I'd seriously look at electric, or at the very least hybrid. 
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Solid ride. Wife has a 2019 XLE AWD. 

 
needanap said:
I purchased a Hyundai Tucson end of April and so far it has been great.  Through Costco got it for $20,300.  It was the SE model, the bare bones model.  I am 6'3 and plenty of room for me and the person sitting behind me.
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Never thought of Costco for purchasing

 
belljr said:
I drive ~25000-30000 miles a year. 

I put on ~78000 in 3 years before covid hit. It's my commuter car, why I went for the high mileage 

And the extended warranty is through Honda not some 3rd party which was what I really liked
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Pre-COVID my commute was 200 miles per day 5 days a week. I feel your pain. 

 
After months of shopping and evaluating, I ended up getting a Pacifica Hybrid minivan. My first 35 miles everyday are free (because of the plugin). I drives like a dream amd has plenty of room to load up the dogs and all we need for a 10 day road trip. Its so practical I'm embarsassed,

Its not cheap (no cars are anymore) but I did get a $7500 tax credit

 
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I picked up a VW ID4 about a month ago. It’s the nicest car I’ve ever owned, by a mile. I highly recommend taking a look at this one.

 
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