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TE Brock Bowers, LV (1 Viewer)
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Faust
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PFF College @PFF_College
Brock Bowers: 479 yards gained AFTER the catch last season
Led all Tight Ends
MCFootball123
Footballguy
This guy is the best college football player in the country. He has zero weaknesses, and beyond all the insane talent and breaking PFF metrics...he's got Nick Chubb's attitude/approach to the game. Brock LOVES the game and loves the competition and grind, feeds off it. He's so much more can't miss imo than even Pitts was.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Against Auburn, he made a one handed catch over the middle on a ball that was zipped to him. Unreal.
Unwrittenlaw
Footballguy
Does Bowers break the trend of an under 240 lb TE not becoming a stud? hmm.. I don't think he is can't miss.
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Unwrittenlaw
Footballguy
Nevermind what I said above. Found one... Shannon Sharpe.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
If you’re comparing him to Gronk he needs to grow a little and become an exceptional blocker.
MCFootball123
Footballguy
He is so much faster and more athletic than Gronk. His blocking is literally what he is known for in the clubhouse. It's exceptional.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Bowers, the Bulldogs' leading receiver and the 2022 Mackey Award winner as the top tight end in the FBS, underwent TightRope surgery on Oct. 16 to repair a high left ankle sprain. He is expected to miss at least four to six weeks, starting with Saturday's game against Florida at EverBank Stadium in Jacksonville, Florida.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Hate to see anyone get hurt, but I hope this means my middling Bucs have a change at him in the draft.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
I seriously doubt Bowers will go outside the top 10, even with the injury.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
TEs are risky business taken in the top 10. Or at least they used to be.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
I'm so leery of drafting TEs, even ones with extremely high draft capital. I think I'd prefer to pick them up in year 2 or 3 when they are just about to get up to speed with the position in the NFL. Seems like very few come in and compete from word go.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
just look at Pitts.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
At this point, LaPorta because he has shown he can play at the NFL level and will be a full season into playing with a solid organization (it really pains me to say that, but it's true) before Bowers take his first snap.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Ten to fifteen years ago almost all NFL wrs made a significant jump in production in year 3. Third year break out as it were. Things has changed for wrs for a multitude of reasons, but it still seems to be typical for TEs.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Pitts or Bowers?
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Pitts, likely for the same reasons. Go back and watch Hock's 2nd year. He showed so much promise but couldn't put it all together. 3rd year, he was much more consistent. The biggest issue with Pitts isn't him, it's his coach who hates us all.
MCFootball123
Footballguy
Bowers over Pitts and LaPorta by mile. I would agree Pitts is more of a specimen in terms of size(and no doubt getting held back by his HC), but if you watch them both play Bowers has that dog in him that Pitts doesn't, that is going to translate. The intangibles are what makes him so elite.
I'll just say this - Bowers had 882 yards and 13 TD's as a true freshman - the rarest of air. Few less TD's, but an even bigger sophmore season, and was on pace for a historic SR season and maybe Heisman until this. Every coach on that team says he is the best player with the most elite mentality they have ever coached - all of them.
I'll just say this - Bowers had 882 yards and 13 TD's as a true freshman - the rarest of air. Few less TD's, but an even bigger sophmore season, and was on pace for a historic SR season and maybe Heisman until this. Every coach on that team says he is the best player with the most elite mentality they have ever coached - all of them.
(HULK)
(Smash)
I'd love that, but I bet they go Nabers. Would be sweet to continue the TE legacy started by Gates though.
Boston
Footballguy
You mean Kellen Winslow.
That would be great. Then fix the OL.
(HULK)
(Smash)
I forgot about him, remember his son better since Sr retired when I was 10 and I didn't care about anything beyond the Redskins then
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
"Bowers is one of the most highly touted prospects of his class and easily the most talented tight end to come out since Kyle Pitts."
LOL WHAT????
Tex
foxco
Footballguy
What's crazy about this statement?
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
I'm not arguing against Bower's talent but............... but LaPorta is a beast and commands respect.
Tex
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
LaPorta.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Prospect.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
It says the "most talent" well LaPorta who was drafted "after" Pitts might have something to say about that. That's all I'm saying.
Tex
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Laporta wasn't even the most highly regarded guy in his class Tex
Boston
Footballguy
As pointed out it is two different things.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Mahomes wasn't highly regarded in his class and I get generate a long list from nearly every draft class that great players was overlooked by scouts but.....
My issue is simple......
PFF
LaPorta delivered a rookie of the year performance in 2023 — which he was awarded for here — as not only the best rookie tight end in fantasy football but the best overall fantasy tight end as well. LaPorta appeared in all 16 games this season while his closest competitors, Travis Kelce and T.J. Hockenson, both missed one game each which helped give him the edge. That shouldn’t diminish what LaPorta was able to accomplish in Year 1, especially at a position that has historically not delivered much rookie fantasy production at all.
LaPorta posted seven top-five PPR finishes among tight ends, ultimately delivering 225.4 PPR fantasy points, which surpassed previously great rookie tight end performances of the last decade, including Kyle Pitts in 2021 (176.6) and Evan Engram in 2017 (173.6). LaPorta has instantly established himself as an elite fantasy option at the position going forward, setting the bar incredibly high in Year 1, which will hopefully only continue in the years to come.
LaPorta is closer to Baby Gronk than Pitts..............."talent wise"
Tex
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
PS I'm glad he wasn't highly regarded because it allowed me to draft him at 1.10 or 2.10 which ever pick i used lol.
From my post in the LaPorta thread:
I'm surprised this has not been posted: https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/george-kittle-impressed-with-sam-laporta
Kittle on LaPorta (they worked out together this offseason):
“When you train with someone, whether it’s in the weight room or running routes with them, things I look for is when you’re running, do you have a forward lean? Can you get out and you’re still accelerating through 10 yards? Or do you stand straight up and you look like a brick wall moving slowly? A lot of people look like that, so he’s got a nice forward lean, and he’s got great hips, if we’re being honest.”
Coach Ben Johnson:
“As a coaching staff, we’re very much, you need to earn your stripes. So you saw in the spring time, he got minimal work with the first time. He’s earned the right now to be in that first team huddle with Jared and the offensive line. He’s proven that over the course of the spring time and the work that he’s put in.”
Dan Campbell:
“To have LaPorta and somebody like Gibbs who hopefully develop – it does, and I think it’s – in some sense, it’s a quarterback’s best friend. When you have a halfback and a tight end that can win for you, I just think that, usually the throws are a little bit easier. They’re bigger targets or there’s a lot of separation depending on athlete versus athlete. So, yeah, I think that’s a fair assessment, and certainly, we’re always going to run the ball. I mean, that’s what it starts with, with us. Our foundation is built off of our offensive line. It always will be, and then we work from the ground up from there.”
Also, he posted elite athletic numbers at the combine with Freak, Agility, and Explosion scores all above the 85th percentile. This combination of athleticism and production gave him BSS comps that include last year’s trendy TEs, Greg Dulcich and Trey McBride, plus Aaron Hernandez, one of the biggest instant-impact TEs of the last couple decades.
Tex
From my post in the LaPorta thread:
I'm surprised this has not been posted: https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/george-kittle-impressed-with-sam-laporta
Kittle on LaPorta (they worked out together this offseason):
“When you train with someone, whether it’s in the weight room or running routes with them, things I look for is when you’re running, do you have a forward lean? Can you get out and you’re still accelerating through 10 yards? Or do you stand straight up and you look like a brick wall moving slowly? A lot of people look like that, so he’s got a nice forward lean, and he’s got great hips, if we’re being honest.”
Coach Ben Johnson:
“As a coaching staff, we’re very much, you need to earn your stripes. So you saw in the spring time, he got minimal work with the first time. He’s earned the right now to be in that first team huddle with Jared and the offensive line. He’s proven that over the course of the spring time and the work that he’s put in.”
Dan Campbell:
“To have LaPorta and somebody like Gibbs who hopefully develop – it does, and I think it’s – in some sense, it’s a quarterback’s best friend. When you have a halfback and a tight end that can win for you, I just think that, usually the throws are a little bit easier. They’re bigger targets or there’s a lot of separation depending on athlete versus athlete. So, yeah, I think that’s a fair assessment, and certainly, we’re always going to run the ball. I mean, that’s what it starts with, with us. Our foundation is built off of our offensive line. It always will be, and then we work from the ground up from there.”
Also, he posted elite athletic numbers at the combine with Freak, Agility, and Explosion scores all above the 85th percentile. This combination of athleticism and production gave him BSS comps that include last year’s trendy TEs, Greg Dulcich and Trey McBride, plus Aaron Hernandez, one of the biggest instant-impact TEs of the last couple decades.
Tex
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Soulfly3
Footballguy
And I think everyone on earth respects LaPorta in the NFL. He's a stud.
Coming out of college it's a literal no contest. Pitts and Bowers are and were ranked miles ahead of LaPorta.
Are we gonna argue that Puca was the best talent coming out of college in 2023?
Faust
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