TE Dallas Goedert, PHI (1 Viewer)

[menobrown]

Eliot Shorr-Parks
Teams around the league know Dallas Goedert is available in trade and the Eagles are willing to move him

Feels more and more like Goedert’s time with the Eagles is coming to an end

@betPARX @_maniacmalloy

https://x.com/eliotshorrparks/status/1898379524821168374?s=61

I hope he goes to a team that uses him. His body is banged-up from the blocking and the tush push and all of it in Philly.

Get this man to a passing offense so he can stay healthy and gambol with the best of them.

Amen to that, would like to see him not the third option in the passing game on a run first team before he's too old.

The injuries have been an issue but I've long felt he was better then people realize. Top 5.

I got two TE movements I've been hoping would happen this off-season, maybe my most anticipated thing of the FA/trade period.

That is Goedert moving to a better situation and Mark Andrews moving anywhere(because Likely).

Heard some rumors from source I don't know enough about to trust that at the combine two AFC teams were inquiring about both of those TE's.

Not exactly a home run spot but could see Saints checking in on Goedert. TE is a big part of Kellen Moore's offense and they need pass catchers in general. I'm hoping more for Chargers or Denver kind of stuff, but I'd take this.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

If the Eagles move on from him, it means they have a backup plan. If there is one, it's not obvious. Calcaterra is a good receiver but can't block, which is essential in this offense.

I could see them trading with the Raiders for Mayer, who won't be used by Chip Kelly.

 

[KellysHeroes]

If the Eagles move on from him, it means they have a backup plan. If there is one, it's not obvious. Calcaterra is a good receiver but can't block, which is essential in this offense.

I could see them trading with the Raiders for Mayer, who won't be used by Chip Kelly.

I doubt the Raiders trade Mayer unless they get a haul

 

[menobrown]

If the Eagles move on from him, it means they have a backup plan. If there is one, it's not obvious. Calcaterra is a good receiver but can't block, which is essential in this offense.

I could see them trading with the Raiders for Mayer, who won't be used by Chip Kelly.

I doubt the Raiders trade Mayer unless they get a haul

I expect Mayer will go for a mid round/day 3 pick.

 

[rockaction]

If the Eagles move on from him, it means they have a backup plan. If there is one, it's not obvious. Calcaterra is a good receiver but can't block, which is essential in this offense.

I could see them trading with the Raiders for Mayer, who won't be used by Chip Kelly.

I doubt the Raiders trade Mayer unless they get a haul

I expect Mayer will go for a mid round/day 3 pick.

Given that he was granted extended time away from the team last year for personal reasons, it might be for less than that.

 

[JAA]

If the Eagles move on from him, it means they have a backup plan. If there is one, it's not obvious. Calcaterra is a good receiver but can't block, which is essential in this offense.

I could see them trading with the Raiders for Mayer, who won't be used by Chip Kelly.

In all fairness I didnt think Goedert was very good until Ertz left.

 

[JohnnyU]

Sorry if this has been posted. What is his rookie draft value in 1QB leagues?

 

[menobrown]

If the Eagles move on from him, it means they have a backup plan. If there is one, it's not obvious. Calcaterra is a good receiver but can't block, which is essential in this offense.

I could see them trading with the Raiders for Mayer, who won't be used by Chip Kelly.

In all fairness I didnt think Goedert was very good until Ertz left.

Really? He was a low end TE1 in his second and third seasons before Ertz had even left.

 

[JAA]

If the Eagles move on from him, it means they have a backup plan. If there is one, it's not obvious. Calcaterra is a good receiver but can't block, which is essential in this offense.

I could see them trading with the Raiders for Mayer, who won't be used by Chip Kelly.

In all fairness I didnt think Goedert was very good until Ertz left.

Really? He was a low end TE1 in his second and third seasons before Ertz had even left.

I do not remember the stats, I just remember as an Eagles fan thinking he was nothing special. As well, I was disappointed when Ertz left.

 

[travdogg]

If the Eagles move on from him, it means they have a backup plan. If there is one, it's not obvious. Calcaterra is a good receiver but can't block, which is essential in this offense.

I could see them trading with the Raiders for Mayer, who won't be used by Chip Kelly.

I doubt the Raiders trade Mayer unless they get a haul

I expect Mayer will go for a mid round/day 3 pick.

Given that he was granted extended time away from the team last year for personal reasons, it might be for less than that.

I'd go a step further, and say if Goedert leaves, Philly needs to aim a lot higher than Mayer. I haven't seen anything in 2 years to suggest Mayer is any good. Maybe the personal reasons held him back a bit, but who knows? With how deep this draft is at TE, I'd much rather look there than at Mayer.

With so few needs, it would be interesting if the Eagles traded up for Warren or Loveland.

 

[travdogg]

Apparently on the block for "at least" a 4th round pick. I know he's had some injury issues, but at that price 75% of the NFL should be interested.

 

[MAC_32]

Apparently on the block for "at least" a 4th round pick. I know he's had some injury issues, but at that price 75% of the NFL should be interested.

He's 30, expires at season's end, missed 5 games per yr the last 3 seasons, and his production has trended down 4 years in a row.

 

[rockaction]

He's 30, expires at season's end, missed 5 games per yr the last 3 seasons, and his production has trended down 4 years in a row.

This is the real problem.

The drop in production was both schematic and came from Hurts's unwillingness to throw the ball over the middle. We saw what he could do when healthy and the focal point of an offense last year, and it was very good.

I roster him but don't have blinders on. Those games missed put a dent in what the Eagles can do on offense and put a dent in your fantasy team if you rostered him. He's a top ten talent right now in the league, but he can't stay healthy.

That said, I think that he's called upon to be essentially another O-lineman on the Eagles, and optimistically think that if you get him in a pass-happy offense and some of the wear and tear will go away.

 

[Buckna]

Texans should consider him. Schultz is a major negative blocking and Goedert would be a big help for the 10 odd games he’s healthy.

 

[rockaction]

Denver's name keeps coming up around TE discussions. For a fourth? They have the 20, 51, 85, 121, 193, 199, 210 picks.

So if they want a fourth, you've got the 121 and then a long way down to 193. But what's the hit rate on fourth rounders?

The only thing here is that Denver is very much in the market for an RB, and those fourth and fifth round picks are, or would have been, valuable

 

[MAC_32]

Denver's name keeps coming up around TE discussions. For a fourth? They have the 20, 51, 85, 121, 193, 199, 210 picks.

So if they want a fourth, you've got the 121 and then a long way down to 193. But what's the hit rate on fourth rounders?

The only thing here is that Denver is very much in the market for an RB, and those fourth and fifth round picks are, or would have been, valuable

Denver is not a Dallas Goedert away from competing for a ring and this is a TE rich class. I think they'd be much better off trying to find their guy in the draft and hope as he peaks the behemoths in the AFC start to tail.

 

[rockaction]

Denver's name keeps coming up around TE discussions. For a fourth? They have the 20, 51, 85, 121, 193, 199, 210 picks.

So if they want a fourth, you've got the 121 and then a long way down to 193. But what's the hit rate on fourth rounders?

The only thing here is that Denver is very much in the market for an RB, and those fourth and fifth round picks are, or would have been, valuable

Denver is not a Dallas Goedert away from competing for a ring and this is a TE rich class. I think they'd be much better off trying to find their guy in the draft and hope as he peaks the behemoths in the AFC start to tail.

Denver made the playoffs, man. What more do they have to do to be contenders? Yes, it is a TE-rich class. It depends where those TEs go and whether Denver wants to use their draft capital on an unproven guy. I'm not sure I agree with you here.

 

[MAC_32]

Denver's name keeps coming up around TE discussions. For a fourth? They have the 20, 51, 85, 121, 193, 199, 210 picks.

So if they want a fourth, you've got the 121 and then a long way down to 193. But what's the hit rate on fourth rounders?

The only thing here is that Denver is very much in the market for an RB, and those fourth and fifth round picks are, or would have been, valuable

Denver is not a Dallas Goedert away from competing for a ring and this is a TE rich class. I think they'd be much better off trying to find their guy in the draft and hope as he peaks the behemoths in the AFC start to tail.

Denver made the playoffs, man. What more do they have to do to be contenders? Yes, it is a TE-rich class. It depends where those TEs go and whether Denver wants to use their draft capital on an unproven guy. I'm not sure I agree with you here.

I don't think they're close to KC, BUF, and BAL. They over achieved this year- rolled the NFC South, beat who they were supposed to beat, then got boat raced in Buffalo. They should be making decisions with 2027 in mind, not 2025.

 

[rockaction]

Oh, how could I have been so obtuse! This article speculates he wants a new contract. They're talking about a fourth even in 2026 or 2027. Something is up. This doesn't match the skill set. I didn't think of contract demands made by the player.

To wit, the fanbase is 82% against letting him go, and Eagles fans are generally astute and know their team well. People are talking about the injuries, but that's a pretty substantial number even if it is an unscientific poll. That's a lot of diehards who want to keep him.

NFL free agency rumors: Eagles want fourth-round draft pick for Dallas Goedert

The report notes there is interest, but both a lower pick and salary adjustment are needed in order to happen.

www.bleedinggreennation.com

 

[rockaction]

Denver's name keeps coming up around TE discussions. For a fourth? They have the 20, 51, 85, 121, 193, 199, 210 picks.

So if they want a fourth, you've got the 121 and then a long way down to 193. But what's the hit rate on fourth rounders?

The only thing here is that Denver is very much in the market for an RB, and those fourth and fifth round picks are, or would have been, valuable

Denver is not a Dallas Goedert away from competing for a ring and this is a TE rich class. I think they'd be much better off trying to find their guy in the draft and hope as he peaks the behemoths in the AFC start to tail.

Denver made the playoffs, man. What more do they have to do to be contenders? Yes, it is a TE-rich class. It depends where those TEs go and whether Denver wants to use their draft capital on an unproven guy. I'm not sure I agree with you here.

I don't think they're close to KC, BUF, and BAL. They over achieved this year- rolled the NFC South, beat who they were supposed to beat, then got boat raced in Buffalo. They should be making decisions with 2027 in mind, not 2025.

Welp, they can trade their fourth-rounder from 2027 and work out a salary adjustment and he's all theirs!

I mean, it's either a contract demand or given the information from that article about the pick potentially coming in future years I've whiffed mightily in my assessment of the player (which is possible).

 

[menobrown]

Apparently on the block for "at least" a 4th round pick. I know he's had some injury issues, but at that price 75% of the NFL should be interested.

He's 30, expires at season's end, missed 5 games per yr the last 3 seasons, and his production has trended down 4 years in a row.

30 is not old, the missed games contribute to the production. It’s like you are double dipping on negatives to build your case against him.

 

[Jppaul]

Denver's name keeps coming up around TE discussions

Denver is not a Dallas Goedert away from competing for a ring and this is a TE rich class. I think they'd be much better off trying to find their guy in the draft and hope as he peaks the behemoths in the AFC start to tail.

As a Denver fan, I want them to draft a top prospect TE - and- acquire a solid veteran

In the off chance both are significant contributors, then play them both

 

[MAC_32]

Apparently on the block for "at least" a 4th round pick. I know he's had some injury issues, but at that price 75% of the NFL should be interested.

He's 30, expires at season's end, missed 5 games per yr the last 3 seasons, and his production has trended down 4 years in a row.

30 is not old, the missed games contribute to the production. It’s like you are double dipping on negatives to build your case against him.

I love Goedert, hit quite a few props on him, if you think the words I've written are a case against him that sounds like a reader problem. He's not a fit on ~75% of the NFL's rosters though. Legit contenders, maybe broken locker rooms, should only apply.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Apparently on the block for "at least" a 4th round pick. I know he's had some injury issues, but at that price 75% of the NFL should be interested.

He's 30, expires at season's end, missed 5 games per yr the last 3 seasons, and his production has trended down 4 years in a row.

30 is not old, the missed games contribute to the production. It’s like you are double dipping on negatives to build your case against him.

I love Goedert, hit quite a few props on him, if you think the words I've written are a case against him that sounds like a reader problem. He's not a fit on ~75% of the NFL's rosters though. Legit contenders, maybe broken locker rooms, should only apply.

Goedert is Hurts security blanket. Whenever there is a big down, he gets open and gets the first. I'd hate to see him go.

 

[menobrown]

Apparently on the block for "at least" a 4th round pick. I know he's had some injury issues, but at that price 75% of the NFL should be interested.

He's 30, expires at season's end, missed 5 games per yr the last 3 seasons, and his production has trended down 4 years in a row.

30 is not old, the missed games contribute to the production. It’s like you are double dipping on negatives to build your case against him.

I love Goedert, hit quite a few props on him, if you think the words I've written are a case against him that sounds like a reader problem. He's not a fit on ~75% of the NFL's rosters though. Legit contenders, maybe broken locker rooms, should only apply.

Definitely not a reader problem

 

[JAA]

If the Eagles move on from him, it means they have a backup plan. If there is one, it's not obvious. Calcaterra is a good receiver but can't block, which is essential in this offense.

I could see them trading with the Raiders for Mayer, who won't be used by Chip Kelly.

I doubt the Raiders trade Mayer unless they get a haul

I expect Mayer will go for a mid round/day 3 pick.

Given that he was granted extended time away from the team last year for personal reasons, it might be for less than that.

I'd go a step further, and say if Goedert leaves, Philly needs to aim a lot higher than Mayer. I haven't seen anything in 2 years to suggest Mayer is any good. Maybe the personal reasons held him back a bit, but who knows? With how deep this draft is at TE, I'd much rather look there than at Mayer.

With so few needs, it would be interesting if the Eagles traded up for Warren or Loveland.

Drafting a TE for value in this draft makes a lot of sense for Phi.

 

[JAA]

Texans should consider him. Schultz is a major negative blocking and Goedert would be a big help for the 10 odd games he’s healthy.

I wonder if Goedart is a candidate for a draft day trade? 1 year remaining on deal with no guaranteed money, smells like sense to me.

 

[rockaction]

Evan Engram met with Denver Monday. Looks like they're in the market for a thirty year-old TE—just not the TE that's the subject of this thread. By the way, Denver isn't thinking about 2027 when they've signed Dre'Mont Jones, Dre Greenlaw, Hufanga (although I think Hufanga is in his prime), and had Engram in for a visit. They're looking to compete this year.

 

[Faust]

Sirianni: Goedert on Eagles 'right now,' we'll see what happens

 

[menobrown]

He might as well be wearing a giant For Sale sign and as a longtime Goedert truther and owner I've long wanted to see him traded but grass is not always greener and I'm especially worried about the Colts making a post-draft trade for him if they don't select a TE in the first two rounds. Jets are the other concerning team that would actually be worse IMO but the Stiechen connection is why I specifically fear the Colts.

 

[rockaction]

He's on the team. Right now. We'll see what happens.

That isn't even close to coachspeak; that's just stating an unfortunate fact akin to having to tell everyone that yes, it smells in here because I have tracked dog poop into the house with my shoes.

It's amazing. They have nobody at tight end to speak of yet they talk like this. Unless they're planning on taking a TE later in the draft and developing him, I don't really get the urgency of them dealing Goedert, never mind with a "don't let the door hit you" attitude towards the public resolution of his status.

On a note that nobody cares about but me, my dynasty team that's been to the finals the past three years looks extraordinarily vulnerable. The fewer-dollars-to-spend-on-players-in-RFA/later picks/get older and stay afloat thing has really caught up to me. Who knows? Maybe I'll attempt to trade Goedert like the real Philly team wants to so that I get something for him, but I don't think either Philly or I will get even close to what we seek for him right now.

 

[menobrown]

It's amazing. They have nobody at tight end to speak of yet they talk like this. Unless they're planning on taking a TE later in the draft and developing him, I don't really get the urgency of them dealing Goedert, never mind with a "don't let the door hit you" attitude towards the public resolution of his status.

I've been extremely surprised about it.

He was not just along for the SB ride. Was a huge part, was their most productive member of the receiving group in the postseason, led them in receptions and yards. The cap number is only $11.8 and can be lowered, but it's not that much regardless. To be so zesty to get rid of someone whose been a long time good solider and just helped you win a SB is just super crazy to me.

Contrast that to the Ravens handling of Mark Andrews, who not only was not a pivotal piece in their SB run but he might have ended it for them and his cap number is higher and they actually have a TE in waiting and they are saying he's probably coming back because you don't get rid of good players.

I'm not knocking Ravens for keeping Andrews another year or getting into a debate about Goedert vs Andrews, just pointing out the massive difference in how these teams are treating their similar aged TE's. Night and day.


As for the Eagles they signed Granson and Harrison Bryant. I can only think they got plans on a TE in the draft, likely know for sure they can get a Taylor or Arroyo in round one if they want, or perhaps are just ok having less of a pass catching option at TE since it's a run based offense with two elite WR's.

 

[Snotbubbles]

It's amazing. They have nobody at tight end to speak of yet they talk like this. Unless they're planning on taking a TE later in the draft and developing him, I don't really get the urgency of them dealing Goedert, never mind with a "don't let the door hit you" attitude towards the public resolution of his status.

I've been extremely surprised about it.

He was not just along for the SB ride. Was a huge part, was their most productive member of the receiving group in the postseason, led them in receptions and yards. The cap number is only $11.8 and can be lowered, but it's not that much regardless. To be so zesty to get rid of someone whose been a long time good solider and just helped you win a SB is just super crazy to me.

Contrast that to the Ravens handling of Mark Andrews, who not only was not a pivotal piece in their SB run but he might have ended it for them and his cap number is higher and they actually have a TE in waiting and they are saying he's probably coming back because you don't get rid of good players.

I'm not knocking Ravens for keeping Andrews another year or getting into a debate about Goedert vs Andrews, just pointing out the massive difference in how these teams are treating their similar aged TE's. Night and day.


As for the Eagles they signed Granson and Harrison Bryant. I can only think they got plans on a TE in the draft, likely know for sure they can get a Taylor or Arroyo in round one if they want, or perhaps are just ok having less of a pass catching option at TE since it's a run based offense with two elite WR's.

I'm sure they'll take a TE in the draft, but they also have Grant Calcaterra, who as a 4th option is fine.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

It's amazing. They have nobody at tight end to speak of yet they talk like this. Unless they're planning on taking a TE later in the draft and developing him, I don't really get the urgency of them dealing Goedert, never mind with a "don't let the door hit you" attitude towards the public resolution of his status.

I've been extremely surprised about it.

He was not just along for the SB ride. Was a huge part, was their most productive member of the receiving group in the postseason, led them in receptions and yards. The cap number is only $11.8 and can be lowered, but it's not that much regardless. To be so zesty to get rid of someone whose been a long time good solider and just helped you win a SB is just super crazy to me.

Contrast that to the Ravens handling of Mark Andrews, who not only was not a pivotal piece in their SB run but he might have ended it for them and his cap number is higher and they actually have a TE in waiting and they are saying he's probably coming back because you don't get rid of good players.

I'm not knocking Ravens for keeping Andrews another year or getting into a debate about Goedert vs Andrews, just pointing out the massive difference in how these teams are treating their similar aged TE's. Night and day.


As for the Eagles they signed Granson and Harrison Bryant. I can only think they got plans on a TE in the draft, likely know for sure they can get a Taylor or Arroyo in round one if they want, or perhaps are just ok having less of a pass catching option at TE since it's a run based offense with two elite WR's.

Hurts doesn't throw over the middle that much. This is probably another factor why the FO thinks TE is a place to cut costs.

It's amazing. They have nobody at tight end to speak of yet they talk like this. Unless they're planning on taking a TE later in the draft and developing him, I don't really get the urgency of them dealing Goedert, never mind with a "don't let the door hit you" attitude towards the public resolution of his status.

I've been extremely surprised about it.

He was not just along for the SB ride. Was a huge part, was their most productive member of the receiving group in the postseason, led them in receptions and yards. The cap number is only $11.8 and can be lowered, but it's not that much regardless. To be so zesty to get rid of someone whose been a long time good solider and just helped you win a SB is just super crazy to me.

Contrast that to the Ravens handling of Mark Andrews, who not only was not a pivotal piece in their SB run but he might have ended it for them and his cap number is higher and they actually have a TE in waiting and they are saying he's probably coming back because you don't get rid of good players.

I'm not knocking Ravens for keeping Andrews another year or getting into a debate about Goedert vs Andrews, just pointing out the massive difference in how these teams are treating their similar aged TE's. Night and day.


As for the Eagles they signed Granson and Harrison Bryant. I can only think they got plans on a TE in the draft, likely know for sure they can get a Taylor or Arroyo in round one if they want, or perhaps are just ok having less of a pass catching option at TE since it's a run based offense with two elite WR's.

I'm sure they'll take a TE in the draft, but they also have Grant Calcaterra, who as a 4th option is fine.

Calcaterra is fine as a receiver, but as a blocker he is a huge downgrade from Goedert. Hopefully whoever they draft is not.

 

[JohnnyU]

What's his rookie draft value as of today? I'm thinking a 3rd, but he could add value. The ship has definitely left the harbor a couple of years ago.

 

[Faust]

Eagles GM Howie Roseman: Uncertainty with TE Dallas Goedert 'doesn't affect us' in draft

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I pretty much gave Goedert away in a contract league. I had Hockenson and the free agent draft has some bargains to be had. Got a ‘27 2nd.

 

[Faust]

Eagles GM Howie Roseman mum on Dallas Goedert after draft: He is 'part of the team as we speak'

 

[Faust]

Eagles, TE Dallas Goedert agree to reworked contract for 2025 season