Birdie048
Footballguy
Reconsidered the future income ? Maybe his agent told him something that could have persuaded him to falter?
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TE Evan Engram, DEN (1 Viewer)
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zamboni
Footballguy
Could be - there’s a big crop of rookie TEs about to be drafted, so maybe Engram is trying to get ahead of it before his future value and the supply/demand dynamic for the position shifts.
rockaction
Footballguy
The two most recently quoted entries in this are what I thought when I saw meno's post. Maybe he did reconsider because of the changing landscape and at the behest of his agent.
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matttyl
Footballguy
Um, his career earnings are around $26m to this point.
He made $9.6m last year with the Jags alone.
Ryan Neal
matttyl
Footballguy
I’m dumb. My bad. Carry on.
grateful zed
Footballguy
was shopping for rbs desperatly.
traded EE for boston scotty dou
traded EE for boston scotty dou
rockaction
Footballguy
Did you mean, "d'oh!"? Because that's about right.
grateful zed
Footballguy
doh
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That's very nice. It wouldn't be surprising to see him have a nice couple years here. The physical talent was always there. It just often takes TEs a crazy amount of time to really figure themselves out.
Can't help but feel this was a mistake by the Jags. Engram has been incredibly inconsistent in his career, and while he has great physical tools, I think this is paying for a career year, ala Mike Williams with the Chargers a year ago.
Still think he's a decent low-end TE1 this year though.
Still think he's a decent low-end TE1 this year though.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Technically wasn't even a career year. He was better as a rookie. He's only 28. I don't think he is great but he's in the TE prime, uber athletic and well, the Jags had money to spend. A little pricey maybe but I think the Jags see the next 3 years as a SB window.
The Frankman
Footballguy
You kinda forget about him in the O but I believe depending on league he's currently TE8 thru three weeks. All you need for a TE to be successful is 6 points a week, and if he catches a TD he'll crush his projection.
doeseatplace
Footballguy
A Jags TE finally caught a touchdown in week 6, and...checks box score...it was...Brenton Strange?
Hoping for a wave of positive TD regression for EE...44 tgts, 36 recs, 0 tds
Hoping for a wave of positive TD regression for EE...44 tgts, 36 recs, 0 tds
Biabreakable
Footballguy
People are always hoping for more but Engram is a pretty solid if not exciting option for people who have not invested top draft capital into the TE position.
If Irv Smith were ever healthy and reached his full potential it would look similar to what Engram has done so far in his career. He hasn't and maybe never well.
As Mitchie says above you could do a lot worse than Engram.
If Irv Smith were ever healthy and reached his full potential it would look similar to what Engram has done so far in his career. He hasn't and maybe never well.
As Mitchie says above you could do a lot worse than Engram.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Quiet thread
100 receptions. Only 7th tight end in history to do so. I think thats what's I heard.
100 receptions. Only 7th tight end in history to do so. I think thats what's I heard.
waiver wire
Footballguy
I drafted him early in a TE premium league.
Held on to him forever as I could never recoup the value of him in any trade offers
He finally paid off this year
Held on to him forever as I could never recoup the value of him in any trade offers
He finally paid off this year
jm192
Footballguy
Feels like the targets have to come down some. His previous career high was 115--to jump to 143 last year was a lot.
Kirk will be back fully healthy after missing 5 games last year. He'll eat into those targets as well.
FantasyPros and FBG both has him at TE8, which seems right. He'll be a solid TE for those not spending up early.
Kirk will be back fully healthy after missing 5 games last year. He'll eat into those targets as well.
FantasyPros and FBG both has him at TE8, which seems right. He'll be a solid TE for those not spending up early.
Ridley is also gone. I think Engram could still be close to the numbers from last year.
Kirk is the guy to target though. He is vastly underrated.
I got Kirk essentially missing 6 games. 5 in total but I'm going to count the game he got hurt on his only snap of the game as 6.
Engram was a different animal without Kirk. A TEP cheat code, a top 5-10 non-QB those 6 weeks in that format, only 5 of which counted for most fantasy leagues.
Safe bet is he can't sustain that pace but even with Kirk he's had a huge target share the last two seasons and it's possible Pederson is the most TE friendly head coach/OC in the whole history of the NFL.
He's the Michael Pittman version of a TE. Ton of targets, catches, pedestrian or worse YPC and awful at finding the end zone relative to amount of catches. These guys give you give good feeling putting them in lineups of PPR and TEP leagues, they start taking hits when you start moving away from those formats.
Engram was a different animal without Kirk. A TEP cheat code, a top 5-10 non-QB those 6 weeks in that format, only 5 of which counted for most fantasy leagues.
Safe bet is he can't sustain that pace but even with Kirk he's had a huge target share the last two seasons and it's possible Pederson is the most TE friendly head coach/OC in the whole history of the NFL.
He's the Michael Pittman version of a TE. Ton of targets, catches, pedestrian or worse YPC and awful at finding the end zone relative to amount of catches. These guys give you give good feeling putting them in lineups of PPR and TEP leagues, they start taking hits when you start moving away from those formats.
Lion to myself
Footballguy
He was great for me last year in my FFPC TE Premium leagues. Finished 4 at TE and was only 7 points behind the top TE. I hadn’t heard about a reduced workload so I’ll have to look into that but I’m thinking it will be more of the same……..a lot of receptions. Hopefully he can score more TDs this year.
I’d still have Andrews over him though for sure. Engram would be the safer play over Pitts, Pitts would be the upside play. I like Engram better personally but I may be a biased Pitt owner from past seasons.
That does feel really high to me, as his splits with/without Kirk are massive. I have Engram TE9, and I kinda want to be lower, but can't bring myself to put someone like Bowers ahead of him, or Njoku (his Watson/Flacco splits are the same red flag) but I wouldn't even consider him over Andrews.
Deamon
Footballguy
Ya in TE premium., they have it ranked:
1. Kelce
2. Laporta
3. McBride
4. Kincaid
5. Engram
6. Andrews
7. Pitts
8. Ferguson
9. Kittle
10. Njoku
11. Goedert
12. Bowers
Deamon
Footballguy
True, then this comment in Joe's week 2 summary: "TE Evan Engram may see his workload reduced and not be an every-down TE" is equally surprising.
Yep. Not sure how he is ranked #7 or lower.x.com
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Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Strange could have a day
OrganizedChaos
Footballguy
How in the world does Bloom now have Engram's outlook up slightly now? It can't get any worse for him so I guess that is correct. One catch for five yards in week one and scratched for week 2 with a hamstring pull in game warmups. I also have Ferguson so had to scramble and pick up Gesecki at the last minute to field a tight end last week. Don't want to carry 3 TEs but I don't know what the word is on Engram nor will he be able to come close to expected targets due to the extra competition. Honestly think Ferguson once he is healthy has the better overall season.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
As of right now looking like a waste of a year for all jags players unless there is a dire turn around. The backup looked good- wouldn’t surprise me if engram was traded to a contender mid season
Wrigley
Footballguy
He’s asking about the injury
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Queue Adam Sandler Billy Madison gif
What I meant to say is that he’s injured and so far not effective. Recommend benching and using an alternative like his backup
Wrigley
Footballguy
Again, he was asking if there was an update on his injury
If he’s healthy you play him, guy caught 114 balls last year
Edit: he’s week to week, Monday night in doubt
TampaMike19
Footballguy
I didn’t go to comprehension school so thank you, master!
Let’s talk about the present though. Last years stats were a long time ago.
What do you project Lawrence stats this year considering the 0-2 start and engram bombing his first game? And now injured?
He caught a bunch of balls at 9 YPR- ppr god, sure. But now the offense is targeting two outside wrs and Kirk hasn’t been targeted at all.
So, he’s injured this week, like i said, and I recommend using strange to replace him as he did good in week2 on very short notice.
Wrigley
Footballguy
he's literally played in one(out of 2) games.
The OP was asking about his injury status.....
But, carry on.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
I dislike quips like this. What purpose does it serve? Be above it man.
