TE Harold Fannin Jr., CLE (2 Viewers)

[Ilov80s]

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117-1555 and almost 10 TDs last year, he went double digit on TDs his Freshman and Sophomore Seasons
I've never hear dof a TE catch 117 balls in one season, remarkable

and he was among the youngest players in the draft. He just turned 21 a month ago. Like Brock Bowers before him, he was a factor on the ground as well. He had 5 rushing TDs in college. I know he played in MAC but that aside, he kind of had one of the best TE careers in college history. Almost Brock Bowers level good. He showed up in the big games too. 11/137/1 against Penn State. 8/145/1 against Texas A&M. 17/213 in the bowl game. PFF had him as the highest graded player in college football last year. I wonder how much higher he would have gone if he wasn't duck footed. It's really strange to see his gait but you can not argue with the results.

 

[hamsterdam]

caught his TD lined up out wide. i'm definitely intrigued. looks like he really is going to be moved around a lot, and him and njoku will share the field a lot this season.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

At 6'3" 240 or whatever he is, this guy is a problem. His underwear olympics scores probably tanked his draft stock more than anything but he's proven he knows how to get open. Browns got a steal here IMHO.

 

[zeeshan2]

Harold Fannin Jr. ran a route on 7 of 11 Joe Flacco dropbacks in the preseason finale.

https://x.com/jagibbs_23/status/1959656697703944202

“Fannin is going to line up all over the formation, and he’s absolutely going to be involved in the offense.”

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[Ilov80s]

Someone that people might want to think about even in redraft right now. I like his potential more than a lot of TEs I see going ahead of him. Now of course his floor is basically 4th or 5th receiving option in a putrid Browns offense but he's got more upside than Hunter Henry, Zach Ertz, Cade Otton, Mike Geseicki, etc.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Seems like a less athletically gifted but more savvy version of early Evan Engram. I agree he's worth flier consideration in redraft depending on how your draft goes.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

He went undrafted in our 14 team dynasty 3 round rookie draft. I had no picks in the draft and was able to pick him up in FA and stash on on my Taxi Squad.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Added him in place of my only weak DST in dynasty. Wasn't able to function knowing he was out there on the waiver wire.

Am I crazy? There's always that one free agent in dynasty I have to move heaven and earth for to squeeze him on my roster in the week leading up to football. Will he at least catch a ball on Sunday?

 

[rockaction]

Added him in place of my only weak DST in dynasty. Wasn't able to function knowing he was out there on the waiver wire.

Am I crazy? There's always that one free agent in dynasty I have to move heaven and earth for to squeeze him on my roster in the week leading up to football. Will he at least catch a ball on Sunday?

Oh, I think this is absolutely the right move. Like, not even close. A defense? No way.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Added him in place of my only weak DST in dynasty. Wasn't able to function knowing he was out there on the waiver wire.

Am I crazy? There's always that one free agent in dynasty I have to move heaven and earth for to squeeze him on my roster in the week leading up to football. Will he at least catch a ball on Sunday?

Oh, I think this is absolutely the right move. Like, not even close. A defense? No way.

Yeah, the trouble is I probably should actually start one even against a weaker opponent. Regardless, it's a problem for another day. Had to get him on board just so I could move on with my day. I did offer up Ollie Gordon to the Achane team for their '27 2nd.

 

[acarey50]

Added him in place of my only weak DST in dynasty. Wasn't able to function knowing he was out there on the waiver wire.

Am I crazy? There's always that one free agent in dynasty I have to move heaven and earth for to squeeze him on my roster in the week leading up to football. Will he at least catch a ball on Sunday?

It's dynasty, I wouldn't be worried about the catches, or lack thereof, this Sunday, I'd be focused on his massive upside for either later this year or more likely next year when there is a decent chance that CLE moves on from Njoku and the QB room is a bit more settled (ok, who are we kidding, it's CLE).

 

[Ilov80s]

Added him in place of my only weak DST in dynasty. Wasn't able to function knowing he was out there on the waiver wire.

Am I crazy? There's always that one free agent in dynasty I have to move heaven and earth for to squeeze him on my roster in the week leading up to football. Will he at least catch a ball on Sunday?

Certainly not. I spent a late 3rd round pick on him in May in my 12 tean singe QB league. Hopefully he's finally the dynasty TE project that actually pans out for me.

 

[TripItUp]

Nabbed him in the 5th round of my dynasty draft. Gonna need an Njoku injury for him to be relevant but I like the long term prospects...especially after Cleveland gets a QB next year.

 

[Terpman22]

Added him in place of my only weak DST in dynasty. Wasn't able to function knowing he was out there on the waiver wire.

Am I crazy? There's always that one free agent in dynasty I have to move heaven and earth for to squeeze him on my roster in the week leading up to football. Will he at least catch a ball on Sunday?

Certainly not. I spent a late 3rd round pick on him in May in my 12 tean singe QB league. Hopefully he's finally the dynasty TE project that actually pans out for me.

Great spot to draft him this year. If you traded back or had multiple 3s or later picks this year, I was shotgun spraying Fannin, Arroyo, Ferguson the most. Mason Taylor even was great value this year.

This TE class I feel is going to change the landscape of the position over the next 2/3 years.

 

[massraider]

I have a 5 keeper league, lot of fun. Give up the draft pick you got the player in, Forever. So Trey McBride is a 21st round keeper for me for as long as I want to keep him. In this same league, I took Bowers in the 5th round, and now have the top two dynasty TE as affordable keepers. Incredible situation.

Anyway, I took Fannin late in the draft. We have big rosters, 3 TE is not unusual. I took him round 16, mainly as a defensive move. I don't want someone else getting a cheap stud TE as a keeper. The buzz on him was immediate, and if the coaches of a team that has Njoku are talking about getting the rookie involved, then I am feeling good about his chances. His dynasty value has increased since draft day, IMO

 

[Ilov80s]

All the talk will be about the great start for Tyler Warren (and rightfully so) but Harod Fannin with 7/63 and a carry already. The Browns might have something.

 

[rockaction]

All the talk will be about the great start for Tyler Warren (and rightfully so) but Harod Fannin with 7/63 and a carry already. The Browns might have something.

So happy I took this guy at 5.01 (?!) in a ten-team league. Glad you were all over this in here. I mean, of course I agreed with you, but it was nice to see somebody really lay out a case for him.

 

[The Frankman]

Harold Fannin caught 7-of-9 targets for 63 yards in the Browns’ Week 1 loss to the Bengals, adding one carry for three yards.

Fannin was the focal point of the Browns’ passing attack out of the gates, catching three passes on the opening drive. He was a queen chess piece throughout the game, operating as a receiver, tight end, fullback, and even a quarterback. His lone carry came on a Wildcat snap early in the game. Fannin led the team in targets and trailed only rookie running back Dylan Sampson in targets. Coming into the NFL, Fannin was a small school phenom at Bowling Green and it wasn’t clear how well his skill set would translate to the pros. He emphatically answered that question in Week 1 and will find a spot in the TE1 ranks for Week 2 versus Baltimore.
- Rotoworld

 

[hamsterdam]

We’ll see how Loveland does but I’m thinking Fannin is gonna get a big bid from me lol

 

[Pip's Invitation]

He’s my third TE in a 1 TE/2 Flex league. Will be a godsend if Kittle misses more time.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

One of my fav sleepers

Harold Fannin Jr. College Stats, School, Draft, Gamelog, Splits | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

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117-1555 and almost 10 TDs last year, he went double digit on TDs his Freshman and Sophomore Seasons
I've never heard of a TE catch 117 balls in one season, remarkable

Good start, he's clearly not lining up at the traditional TE spot next to one of the Tackles on the OL
7 catches, he's very involved in the offense

 

[dipandglide]

Awesome start!

No way CLE resigns Njoku if Fannin continues to look good, right?

 

[rockaction]

Awesome start!

No way CLE resigns Njoku if Fannin continues to look good, right?

You’d think but Njoku is playing a trad TE while Fannin is being moved around in the slot and away from the inline TE position.

 

[Jmiller21kg]

Played over 70% of snaps with 29% slot usage. Wheels up!

 

[Faust]

Nick Shook
NFL Research notes on Browns standout rookies:

-TE Harold Fannin’s seven receptions are the most by a rookie TE in Week 1 in NFL history

-RB Dylan Sampson’s eight receptions tied with Tarik Cohen for the most by a rookie RB in their first career game since 1990

https://x.com/thenickshook/status/1964795521337602517?s=61

 

[Faust]

Dwain McFarland
Harold Fannin Jr.: Week 1 Utilization

Kevin Stefanski has a plan for this man.

13.6 fantasy points (ppr)
72% snaps
67% routes
21% targets
29% targets per route
1.97 yards per route
29% slot
6% backfield
1 screen target
1 rushing attempt

https://x.com/dwainmcfarland/status/1964857992287060441?s=61

 

[TampaMike19]

Will be bidding heavily as a kittle replacement. Looks the part and is taking Njokus usage

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I don't think Fannin will ever be a traditional TE
I would bet by next season that he might be reclassified in FF as a WR

-If he stays listed at TE but lines up as a receiver much of the time, it's a cheat code basically
You gotta be impressed with the Browns overall, they should have won the game

 

[menobrown]

Took him in mid round 3 of a TEP league.

Just got offered a 2026 first, second and Rachaad White as a throw in. Projected late picks. I'm going to think about it but I don't think I want to do it.

 

[Deamon]

Took him in mid round 3 of a TEP league.

Just got offered a 2026 first, second and Rachaad White as a throw in. Projected late picks. I'm going to think about it but I don't think I want to do it.

Feel like I'd take that, but I dunno.

Flacco isn't going to be behind center for long. I think Fannin could be the real deal with any QB, but feel like his production is highest with Flacco.

 

[massraider]

It never made sense that a guy who put up numbers like that in college barely got any love from the Fantasy community.

 

[Deamon]

It never made sense that a guy who put up numbers like that in college barely got any love from the Fantasy community.

Case and Point Keenum

 

[menobrown]

Took him in mid round 3 of a TEP league.

Just got offered a 2026 first, second and Rachaad White as a throw in. Projected late picks. I'm going to think about it but I don't think I want to do it.

Feel like I'd take that, but I dunno.

Flacco isn't going to be behind center for long. I think Fannin could be the real deal with any QB, but feel like his production is highest with Flacco.

Thanks for feedback. Flacco helps but I see a lot of short passes with Gabriel(which is ideal in a 1.5 TEP) and the entire system is TE friendly.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Took him in mid round 3 of a TEP league.

Just got offered a 2026 first, second and Rachaad White as a throw in. Projected late picks. I'm going to think about it but I don't think I want to do it.

Feel like I'd take that, but I dunno.

Flacco isn't going to be behind center for long. I think Fannin could be the real deal with any QB, but feel like his production is highest with Flacco.

I disagree about Joe Flacco
-The Browns should have won the game on a FG miss and the team rallied behind the kicker even though he had a terrible game
Flacco's leadership put them in position to win, Stefanski wants to keep his job, unless Flacco is sidelined with an injury, I don't see Gabriel or Sanders a priority for the Browns right now
They made Joe Burrow look like a Bottom 5 QB

Don't believe me?
Let's see what Myles Garrett had to say

“There’s gonna be situations like this again and he's gonna make those kicks," Garrett said. "... There's no more scrutiny on him than the rest of us. We didn't have to be in that position, we could have came off faster on defense and picked it up earlier. It's a team game, and we all have to play together."

-I don't anticipate a scenario where Joe Flacco is ushered to the bench unless the team starts getting blown out on a weekly basis
Cleveland should have won and the Browns look like an actual "Team" meaning when people were feeling down, others were picking them up on the sidelines

That's leadership that starts at the top with Stefanski and then the starting QB with Joe Flacco
I was very impressed by what I saw from the Cleveland Browns yesterday

 

[menobrown]

Took him in mid round 3 of a TEP league.

Just got offered a 2026 first, second and Rachaad White as a throw in. Projected late picks. I'm going to think about it but I don't think I want to do it.

Feel like I'd take that, but I dunno.

Flacco isn't going to be behind center for long. I think Fannin could be the real deal with any QB, but feel like his production is highest with Flacco.

I disagree about Joe Flacco
-The Browns should have won the game on a FG miss and the team rallied behind the kicker even though he had a terrible game
Flacco's leadership put them in position to win, Stefanski wants to keep his job, unless Flacco is sidelined with an injury, I don't see Gabriel or Sanders a priority for the Browns right now
They made Joe Burrow look like a Bottom 5 QB

Don't believe me?
Let's see what Myles Garrett had to say

“There’s gonna be situations like this again and he's gonna make those kicks," Garrett said. "... There's no more scrutiny on him than the rest of us. We didn't have to be in that position, we could have came off faster on defense and picked it up earlier. It's a team game, and we all have to play together."

-I don't anticipate a scenario where Joe Flacco is ushered to the bench unless the team starts getting blown out on a weekly basis
Cleveland should have won and the Browns look like an actual "Team" meaning when people were feeling down, others were picking them up on the sidelines

That's leadership that starts at the top with Stefanski and then the starting QB with Joe Flacco
I was very impressed by hat I saw from the Cleveland Browns yesterday

Nice story yesterday that they played competitive and almost won but Flacco won't be starting for long.

I mean the owner already said before the season they need to see what they got with the rookie QB's.

And despite the nice "almost win" yesterday they are still going to be decided underdogs in their next 5 games and will probably end up 1-5, 2-4 at best.

 

[Deamon]

Took him in mid round 3 of a TEP league.

Just got offered a 2026 first, second and Rachaad White as a throw in. Projected late picks. I'm going to think about it but I don't think I want to do it.

Feel like I'd take that, but I dunno.

Flacco isn't going to be behind center for long. I think Fannin could be the real deal with any QB, but feel like his production is highest with Flacco.

I disagree about Joe Flacco
-The Browns should have won the game on a FG miss and the team rallied behind the kicker even though he had a terrible game
Flacco's leadership put them in position to win, Stefanski wants to keep his job, unless Flacco is sidelined with an injury, I don't see Gabriel or Sanders a priority for the Browns right now
They made Joe Burrow look like a Bottom 5 QB

Don't believe me?
Let's see what Myles Garrett had to say

“There’s gonna be situations like this again and he's gonna make those kicks," Garrett said. "... There's no more scrutiny on him than the rest of us. We didn't have to be in that position, we could have came off faster on defense and picked it up earlier. It's a team game, and we all have to play together."

-I don't anticipate a scenario where Joe Flacco is ushered to the bench unless the team starts getting blown out on a weekly basis
Cleveland should have won and the Browns look like an actual "Team" meaning when people were feeling down, others were picking them up on the sidelines

That's leadership that starts at the top with Stefanski and then the starting QB with Joe Flacco
I was very impressed by hat I saw from the Cleveland Browns yesterday

I never said Flacco wouldn't be starting for this season. His trade offer is in a dynasty league, and I don't think Flacco will be starting there beyond this year.

 

[steelwind]

I don't think Fannin will ever be a traditional TE
I would bet by next season that he might be reclassified in FF as a WR

-If he stays listed at TE but lines up as a receiver much of the time, it's a cheat code basically
You gotta be impressed with the Browns overall, they should have won the game

I don't know much about the Browns passing game.
But Jeudy, Tilman, Njoku aren't going away. isaiah bond played snaps as well. And Sampson is decent as a pass catcher.

His journey is interesting though.

 

[Terpman22]

How much FAAB % in a non premium dynasty??

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I don't think Fannin will ever be a traditional TE
I would bet by next season that he might be reclassified in FF as a WR

-If he stays listed at TE but lines up as a receiver much of the time, it's a cheat code basically
You gotta be impressed with the Browns overall, they should have won the game

I don't know much about the Browns passing game.
But Jeudy, Tilman, Njoku aren't going away. isaiah bond played snaps as well. And Sampson is decent as a pass catcher.

His journey is interesting though.

From FBG site...

Njoku 84% of the snaps
Fannin 72% of the snaps
Clearly they are on the field at the same time

We can talk Jeudy, Tillman, etc...Fannin has his own lane right now

 

[Football Jones]

There's a clear risk with Fannin. It's far from certain whether a future HC would play Fannin pretty much full-time in what amounts to an H-Back position like Stefanski is doing right now. As soon as they get another decent WR, Fannin could very well play less snaps in the role he's in now or as more of a traditional TE as a backup. I could've missed it, but I didn't see him line up in-line once.

Fannin wasn't a popular FF pick, but he went 3.3 in the NFL draft so he's no slouch. That said, he's one of those guys who could have value one day, then poof. Fannin is good at what he does, but he's your classic tweener and those guys can have trouble having lasting production. Eventually, I believe Fannin will need to make it in more of a traditional TE role if he's going to be a FF stud. Whether he can do that remains to be seen.

If you told me Stefanski will always be there, I'd be more optimistic, but only to a degree. All it might take for Fannin to lose his current role is for them to draft a day-2 WR. I think he's a decent 2nd round rookie pick (ideally, 3rd round) and hope for the best.

This comes with the caveat that Fannin has enough talent to hit, but there's some dynamics involved that aren't there for other top, young TE prospects.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

There's a clear risk with Fannin. It's far from certain whether a future HC would play Fannin pretty much full-time in what amounts to an H-Back position like Stefanski is doing right now. As soon as they get another decent WR, Fannin could very well play less snaps in the role he's in now or as more of a traditional TE as a backup. I could've missed it, but I didn't see him line up in-line once.

Fannin wasn't a popular FF pick, but he went 3.3 in the NFL draft so he's no slouch. That said, he's one of those guys who could have value one day, then poof. Fannin is good at what he does, but he's your classic tweener and those guys can have trouble having lasting production. Eventually, I believe Fannin will need to make it in more of a traditional TE role if he's going to be a FF stud. Whether he can do that remains to be seen.

If you told me Stefanski will always be there, I'd be more optimistic, but only to a degree. All it might take for Fannin to lose his current role is for them to draft a day-2 WR. I think he's a decent 2nd round rookie pick (ideally, 3rd round) and hope for the best.

This comes with the caveat that Fannin has enough talent to hit, but there's some dynamics involved that aren't there for other top, young TE prospects.

Jim Jensen carved a career in Miami as an H-Back

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

There might be a case to sell high later depending on what's offered. When it comes to this position, your leaguemates won't be asking how as much as how many. Back-to-back double-digit games to start his career and they will be asking "how much?", if they haven't already asked.

 

[Football Jones]

There's a clear risk with Fannin. It's far from certain whether a future HC would play Fannin pretty much full-time in what amounts to an H-Back position like Stefanski is doing right now. As soon as they get another decent WR, Fannin could very well play less snaps in the role he's in now or as more of a traditional TE as a backup. I could've missed it, but I didn't see him line up in-line once.

Fannin wasn't a popular FF pick, but he went 3.3 in the NFL draft so he's no slouch. That said, he's one of those guys who could have value one day, then poof. Fannin is good at what he does, but he's your classic tweener and those guys can have trouble having lasting production. Eventually, I believe Fannin will need to make it in more of a traditional TE role if he's going to be a FF stud. Whether he can do that remains to be seen.

If you told me Stefanski will always be there, I'd be more optimistic, but only to a degree. All it might take for Fannin to lose his current role is for them to draft a day-2 WR. I think he's a decent 2nd round rookie pick (ideally, 3rd round) and hope for the best.

This comes with the caveat that Fannin has enough talent to hit, but there's some dynamics involved that aren't there for other top, young TE prospects.

Jim Jensen carved a career in Miami as an H-Back

Oh, I definitely think Fannin can have a good career.

I like him...just saying he could easily end up being more of a valuable NFL player as opposed to an FF producer.

 

[menobrown]

Took him in mid round 3 of a TEP league.

Just got offered a 2026 first, second and Rachaad White as a throw in. Projected late picks. I'm going to think about it but I don't think I want to do it.

Feel like I'd take that, but I dunno.

I went ahead and did it.

Hold up was idea that with a 2026 first round pick I’d be lucky to land a 21 year old TE who looks to have a large, and growing, role in the passing game.

Awesome to turn a mid third round rookie pick into what I just did but at least as long as Stefanski is his coach I think he’s very legit. Maybe even a fantasy super star in this format.

 

[TampaMike19]

There's a clear risk with Fannin. It's far from certain whether a future HC would play Fannin pretty much full-time in what amounts to an H-Back position like Stefanski is doing right now. As soon as they get another decent WR, Fannin could very well play less snaps in the role he's in now or as more of a traditional TE as a backup. I could've missed it, but I didn't see him line up in-line once.

Fannin wasn't a popular FF pick, but he went 3.3 in the NFL draft so he's no slouch. That said, he's one of those guys who could have value one day, then poof. Fannin is good at what he does, but he's your classic tweener and those guys can have trouble having lasting production. Eventually, I believe Fannin will need to make it in more of a traditional TE role if he's going to be a FF stud. Whether he can do that remains to be seen.

If you told me Stefanski will always be there, I'd be more optimistic, but only to a degree. All it might take for Fannin to lose his current role is for them to draft a day-2 WR. I think he's a decent 2nd round rookie pick (ideally, 3rd round) and hope for the best.

This comes with the caveat that Fannin has enough talent to hit, but there's some dynamics involved that aren't there for other top, young TE prospects.

Jim Jensen carved a career in Miami as an H-Back

Oh, I definitely think Fannin can have a good career.

I like him...just saying he could easily end up being more of a valuable NFL player as opposed to an FF producer.

You are right in the sense that there aren’t many productive long term 6’3” 240 lb players in the league. Obviously you have Derrick Henry, but from a tight end perspective there is Jonnu smith and chig okonkwo who hit those size metrics. I always felt the in line tight ends that clear 6’4” and 245-250 are the sweet spot for longevity in the NFL.

That said there’s nothing wrong with him being used like an athlete like Percy Harvin but yesterday the browns got 15 receptions out of their round 3 and 4 rookies which is preposterous and unbelievable to me as I type it out

 

[Football Jones]

There's a clear risk with Fannin. It's far from certain whether a future HC would play Fannin pretty much full-time in what amounts to an H-Back position like Stefanski is doing right now. As soon as they get another decent WR, Fannin could very well play less snaps in the role he's in now or as more of a traditional TE as a backup. I could've missed it, but I didn't see him line up in-line once.

Fannin wasn't a popular FF pick, but he went 3.3 in the NFL draft so he's no slouch. That said, he's one of those guys who could have value one day, then poof. Fannin is good at what he does, but he's your classic tweener and those guys can have trouble having lasting production. Eventually, I believe Fannin will need to make it in more of a traditional TE role if he's going to be a FF stud. Whether he can do that remains to be seen.

If you told me Stefanski will always be there, I'd be more optimistic, but only to a degree. All it might take for Fannin to lose his current role is for them to draft a day-2 WR. I think he's a decent 2nd round rookie pick (ideally, 3rd round) and hope for the best.

This comes with the caveat that Fannin has enough talent to hit, but there's some dynamics involved that aren't there for other top, young TE prospects.

Jim Jensen carved a career in Miami as an H-Back

Oh, I definitely think Fannin can have a good career.

I like him...just saying he could easily end up being more of a valuable NFL player as opposed to an FF producer.

You are right in the sense that there aren’t many productive long term 6’3” 240 lb players in the league. Obviously you have Derrick Henry, but from a tight end perspective there is Jonnu smith and chig okonkwo who hit those size metrics. I always felt the in line tight ends that clear 6’4” and 245-250 are the sweet spot for longevity in the NFL.

That said there’s nothing wrong with him being used like an athlete like Percy Harvin but yesterday the browns got 15 receptions out of their round 3 and 4 rookies which is preposterous and unbelievable to me as I type it out

Yeah, I agree with the sweet spot for longevity as it relates to FF for TEs. Fannin doesn't have that kind of skill set, but he's also not a WR.

The best label for Fannin might be Offensive Weapon. I just think this might be a Stefanski thing. I'd also like him a little more if he was taller. I'm not sure Fannin is going to scare a lot of the defenders who'll be assigned to cover him.

 

[kyoun1e]

Intrigued by Fannin. Usage was great. Obviously a tremendous college track record.

As a Kittle owner I have to be interested, however, how much of his production yesterday could be chalked up to a lousy Cinci D?

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't think Fannin will ever be a traditional TE
I would bet by next season that he might be reclassified in FF as a WR

-If he stays listed at TE but lines up as a receiver much of the time, it's a cheat code basically
You gotta be impressed with the Browns overall, they should have won the game

He's a tight end/h-back similar to Jonnu. 6'3" 241, 4.71 50. He had snaps from the backfield, wildcat. He's definitely not a WR.

 

[Ilov80s]

There's a clear risk with Fannin. It's far from certain whether a future HC would play Fannin pretty much full-time in what amounts to an H-Back position like Stefanski is doing right now. As soon as they get another decent WR, Fannin could very well play less snaps in the role he's in now or as more of a traditional TE as a backup. I could've missed it, but I didn't see him line up in-line once.

Fannin wasn't a popular FF pick, but he went 3.3 in the NFL draft so he's no slouch. That said, he's one of those guys who could have value one day, then poof. Fannin is good at what he does, but he's your classic tweener and those guys can have trouble having lasting production. Eventually, I believe Fannin will need to make it in more of a traditional TE role if he's going to be a FF stud. Whether he can do that remains to be seen.

If you told me Stefanski will always be there, I'd be more optimistic, but only to a degree. All it might take for Fannin to lose his current role is for them to draft a day-2 WR. I think he's a decent 2nd round rookie pick (ideally, 3rd round) and hope for the best.

This comes with the caveat that Fannin has enough talent to hit, but there's some dynamics involved that aren't there for other top, young TE prospects.

Jim Jensen carved a career in Miami as an H-Back

Oh, I definitely think Fannin can have a good career.

I like him...just saying he could easily end up being more of a valuable NFL player as opposed to an FF producer.

You are right in the sense that there aren’t many productive long term 6’3” 240 lb players in the league. Obviously you have Derrick Henry, but from a tight end perspective there is Jonnu smith and chig okonkwo who hit those size metrics. I always felt the in line tight ends that clear 6’4” and 245-250 are the sweet spot for longevity in the NFL.

That said there’s nothing wrong with him being used like an athlete like Percy Harvin but yesterday the browns got 15 receptions out of their round 3 and 4 rookies which is preposterous and unbelievable to me as I type it out

This cold water does make sense, hate to say it. However, I then look at Brock Bowers measurables and I see 6'3" 243 and I think hmmm...

 

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There's a clear risk with Fannin. It's far from certain whether a future HC would play Fannin pretty much full-time in what amounts to an H-Back position like Stefanski is doing right now. As soon as they get another decent WR, Fannin could very well play less snaps in the role he's in now or as more of a traditional TE as a backup. I could've missed it, but I didn't see him line up in-line once.

Fannin wasn't a popular FF pick, but he went 3.3 in the NFL draft so he's no slouch. That said, he's one of those guys who could have value one day, then poof. Fannin is good at what he does, but he's your classic tweener and those guys can have trouble having lasting production. Eventually, I believe Fannin will need to make it in more of a traditional TE role if he's going to be a FF stud. Whether he can do that remains to be seen.

If you told me Stefanski will always be there, I'd be more optimistic, but only to a degree. All it might take for Fannin to lose his current role is for them to draft a day-2 WR. I think he's a decent 2nd round rookie pick (ideally, 3rd round) and hope for the best.

This comes with the caveat that Fannin has enough talent to hit, but there's some dynamics involved that aren't there for other top, young TE prospects.

Jim Jensen carved a career in Miami as an H-Back

Oh, I definitely think Fannin can have a good career.

I like him...just saying he could easily end up being more of a valuable NFL player as opposed to an FF producer.

You are right in the sense that there aren’t many productive long term 6’3” 240 lb players in the league. Obviously you have Derrick Henry, but from a tight end perspective there is Jonnu smith and chig okonkwo who hit those size metrics. I always felt the in line tight ends that clear 6’4” and 245-250 are the sweet spot for longevity in the NFL.

That said there’s nothing wrong with him being used like an athlete like Percy Harvin but yesterday the browns got 15 receptions out of their round 3 and 4 rookies which is preposterous and unbelievable to me as I type it out

This cold water does make sense, hate to say it. However, I then look at Brock Bowers measurables and I see 6'3" 243 and I think hmmm...

There's a huge jump in athleticism with Bowers, though. Probably quite a bit of a difference in functional strength, as well.