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TE Isaiah Likely, BAL (1 Viewer)

I picked him up in a league, where we aren't required to play a te. It's a start 3 wr/te league. I generally see him being more of the Ravens #2 wr than their #2 te. I think he can end up with numbers similar to Flowers at the end of the year. Not as many receptions but more tds.
 
I wonder if he ends up taking more looks from Bateman than he does from Andrews?
In that offense and system he seems to be put in a better spot than Bateman. I sure feel for Bateman as I did for Hollywood when he was there. These outside receivers just don't fit what Lamar likes to do.

Bateman signed a 2-year extension but man I would like to see him in a different offense.
Bateman is unplayable. This passing offense will revolve around Flowers, Andrews, and Likely.
5 targets with a ADOT north of 26. He is going to have a few big games.
I don't think he has it in him. 4th year breakout? Probably not.


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It depends what you mean by breakout. 800 yds and 8 TDs could happen
 
I wonder if he ends up taking more looks from Bateman than he does from Andrews?
In that offense and system he seems to be put in a better spot than Bateman. I sure feel for Bateman as I did for Hollywood when he was there. These outside receivers just don't fit what Lamar likes to do.

Bateman signed a 2-year extension but man I would like to see him in a different offense.
Bateman is unplayable. This passing offense will revolve around Flowers, Andrews, and Likely.
5 targets with a ADOT north of 26. He is going to have a few big games.
I don't think he has it in him. 4th year breakout? Probably not.


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It depends what you mean by breakout. 800 yds and 8 TDs could happen
Yes, and I could get a date with Kate Beckinsale. I chose someone a little older as to not sound like a pervert.
 
spent $48 in a league where I have Pitts. Didn’t like the look of the Atl oline at all sunday and Cousins doesn’t look fully back to me. Couldn’t risk rolling with Pitts as a set it forget it guy.

I do think that Likely will have a few dud games though. Balt will be winning most of the time and there won’t be a need to feed him targets like did last week.
 
What percentage of FAAB are people dropping on him next week in TE leagues?
Someone actually dropped him on the first waiver run of a FFPC league, redraft. These of course are 1.5 PPR to the TE. Surprising because his ADP even before the blow up game was in 12/13 turn range.

I'll be surprised if he does not go for at least $500, won't be surprised to see him go for over $800.

He is not available in any of my other 30+ leagues encompassing redraft and dynasty.
Update.

He went for $849 of $1,000 available for year. Runner up bid was $774.
 
I spent 32% and I already have Kelce. Next highest was 23 and 17%. He's not going away AND Andrews will be fine. I see at least 75rec 800yds 8TDs for likely through week 17. Get as many bargaining chips as you can.
 
Picked him up as a Mandrews manager. Gonna play the starter for now but definitely a situation to monitor closely. League is double flex so it didn’t feel like I’d be wasting the waiver bucks on him in case Likely is legit.
 
it's kinda funny seeing Andrews owners in denial that he's completely washed.
he has a strong run, but likely's new connection w lamar is wild.
 
it's kinda funny seeing Andrews owners in denial that he's completely washed.
he has a strong run, but likely's new connection w lamar is wild.
Wow, what a hot take. He's 29. He's not washed. I like Likely, but I'm not casting off Mark Andrews this year.
 
it's kinda funny seeing Andrews owners in denial that he's completely washed.
he has a strong run, but likely's new connection w lamar is wild.
It’s wild early to be so confident that he’s completely washed. However, I did my best to get Likely JUST IN CASE he is, in fact, washed the **** up. That’s the gamble.
 
it's kinda funny seeing Andrews owners in denial that he's completely washed.
he has a strong run, but likely's new connection w lamar is wild.
I am pulling for Likely and faded Andrews this year due to him but I'll join the chorus in saying this is premature. Don't think you can discount Andrews working his way back from what sounds like a pretty bad accident.

I'll say what I was saying in I think this thread back in like January. Both of their contracts run out after the 25 season. They won't want both of them entering 2025 on the last year of their deals. They'll work to resign one of them, and due to age they'll almost assuredly prefer that to be Likely. At that point there becomes a wide range of outcomes for what happens with Andrews, but my guess is they'll trade him as he won't want to be 30 on last year of his deal and will prefer some security.
 
it's kinda funny seeing Andrews owners in denial that he's completely washed.
he has a strong run, but likely's new connection w lamar is wild.
Wow, what a hot take. He's 29. He's not washed. I like Likely, but I'm not casting off Mark Andrews this year.
You have to know the poster - he goes off on wild takes and then vanishes like a f in the wind.

As for Andrews, one injury does not mean he is washed. It just may mean it takes some time before he is 100% again - and the car accident didn't help.

The Chiefs sure didn't think he was washed as they bracketed him and would put 2 or 3 guys on Andrews making Lamar throw it to someone else. The defensive schemes sure seem to show they were worried about Andrews.

Some general food for thought for people that get so hung up on "their guy" that the other guy must suck - as they wish cast it into existence.


Hope everyone is ready for this - it is earth shattering - forever game changing.... ready?

Andrews and Likely are both good players! Both can be good for the Ravens this year.

Now that we have that out of the way, lets see how Andrews comes along each week as he gets back from a significant injury and car accident.
 
it's kinda funny seeing Andrews owners in denial that he's completely washed.
he has a strong run, but likely's new connection w lamar is wild.
Wow, what a hot take. He's 29. He's not washed. I like Likely, but I'm not casting off Mark Andrews this year.
You have to know the poster - he goes off on wild takes and then vanishes like a f in the wind.

As for Andrews, one injury does not mean he is washed. It just may mean it takes some time before he is 100% again - and the car accident didn't help.

The Chiefs sure didn't think he was washed as they bracketed him and would put 2 or 3 guys on Andrews making Lamar throw it to someone else. The defensive schemes sure seem to show they were worried about Andrews.

Some general food for thought for people that get so hung up on "their guy" that the other guy must suck - as they wish cast it into existence.


Hope everyone is ready for this - it is earth shattering - forever game changing.... ready?

Andrews and Likely are both good players! Both can be good for the Ravens this year.

Now that we have that out of the way, lets see how Andrews comes along each week as he gets back from a significant injury and car accident.
Stop using logic and reasoning skills. This is forum is a place for people's feelings about their fantasy players :ROFLMAO:
 
it's kinda funny seeing Andrews owners in denial that he's completely washed.
he has a strong run, but likely's new connection w lamar is wild.
I am pulling for Likely and faded Andrews this year due to him but I'll join the chorus in saying this is premature. Don't think you can discount Andrews working his way back from what sounds like a pretty bad accident.

I'll say what I was saying in I think this thread back in like January. Both of their contracts run out after the 25 season. They won't want both of them entering 2025 on the last year of their deals. They'll work to resign one of them, and due to age they'll almost assuredly prefer that to be Likely. At that point there becomes a wide range of outcomes for what happens with Andrews, but my guess is they'll trade him as he won't want to be 30 on last year of his deal and will prefer some security.

Here is a fun prediction if they don't re-sign Andrews.

Charlie Kolar eventually takes over the Andrews role and Likely keeps playing in different positions as they move him around (TE/Slot/out wide etc). Likely is their "gadget big slot WR" and goes on to have a very good career but people start complaining when Kolar is taking snaps and targets away from Likely as Kolar plays the tradition TE spot.

anyways.... enjoy the ride with Likely but don't be upset when Andrews is still the starting TE this year.
 
it's kinda funny seeing Andrews owners in denial that he's completely washed.
he has a strong run, but likely's new connection w lamar is wild.
Even if you believe this to be true, Andrews is still better than 3/4ths of the TE that play in the NFL.
 
anyways.... enjoy the ride with Likely but don't be upset when Andrews is still the starting TE this year.
I believe they will both be fantasy relevant this year with Likely being the slightly better scorer. But both are relevant.
Right and of course Likely was the much cheaper option. But if health works out going to hard for this to not be the best fantasy TE duo since the Pat duo.....and I say that realizing Ertz/Goedert were both top 10 together one season so the bar is not that low to pass.

Andrews played more snaps and ran more routes in week one. No one should be disputing who is atop the pecking order but again I'll say the same thing as I did back in like January. With the way Likely was playing last year, you don't just relegate that back not having a good sized role. And he's better now then he was last year.

When the second best non-TE option in the passing game is Bateman and even most hardcore nuts on this board can't name the #3WR there is enough to go around. Enough for Andrews to support his ADP of the 2/3 turn he was going in FFPC? Probably not, but I don't think he'll be a bust so much as mildly disappointing.
 
What percentage of FAAB are people dropping on him next week in TE leagues?
Someone actually dropped him on the first waiver run of a FFPC league, redraft. These of course are 1.5 PPR to the TE. Surprising because his ADP even before the blow up game was in 12/13 turn range.

I'll be surprised if he does not go for at least $500, won't be surprised to see him go for over $800.

He is not available in any of my other 30+ leagues encompassing redraft and dynasty.
Update.

He went for $849 of $1,000 available for year. Runner up bid was $774.
Went for 41% in mine. Next bid was 31%.
 
it's kinda funny seeing Andrews owners in denial that he's completely washed.
he has a strong run, but likely's new connection w lamar is wild.
Wow, what a hot take. He's 29. He's not washed. I like Likely, but I'm not casting off Mark Andrews this year.
Andrews leg is clearly just barely hanging on, by the band-aid is my guess.
wut? He wasn't injured in the car crash and I don't know of any serious injury lately. He had a cracked Fibula Fracture in 2023, but nothing indicates it's an issue now.
 
I see I hurt a few feelings in here w that claim, but I stand by it.

Will he have decent games? I'm sure of it.

Is the Andrews ppl knew and loved still around? Yes, but his jersey says "Likely" on the back now.
 
it's kinda funny seeing Andrews owners in denial that he's completely washed.
he has a strong run, but likely's new connection w lamar is wild.
Wow, what a hot take. He's 29. He's not washed. I like Likely, but I'm not casting off Mark Andrews this year.
You have to know the poster - he goes off on wild takes and then vanishes like a f in the wind.

Large nathan has apparently found my comments under every player who has ever put on a Browns jersey.

Guilty!
 
I see I hurt a few feelings in here w that claim, but I stand by it.

Will he have decent games? I'm sure of it.

Is the Andrews ppl knew and loved still around? Yes, but his jersey says "Likely" on the back now.
I get it, Likely is an ascending dynasty asset, but you're being somewhat harsh on Andrews without any justification for it. He's 29 and I'm sure still a very good TE. I'm just being realistic here.
 
The app for Yahoo is rough, especially with the changes.

Whoever is responsible for the 2024 Yahoo FF app should be punted immediately. Not a single change is an improvement; most of them make the UI notably uglier and/or harder to use. :FourThumbsDown:
I didn't think anything could be worse than ESPN but somehow Yahoo did it. Yahoo said hey ESPN "hold my beer".

-1/10 for Yahoo
 
The app for Yahoo is rough, especially with the changes.

Whoever is responsible for the 2024 Yahoo FF app should be punted immediately. Not a single change is an improvement; most of them make the UI notably uglier and/or harder to use. :FourThumbsDown:
I didn't think anything could be worse than ESPN but somehow Yahoo did it. Yahoo said hey ESPN "hold my beer".

-1/10 for Yahoo
Browser site is still loads better on Yahoo (I hate how hard ESPN makes seeing transactions). The Yahoo Fantasy app change is akin to "New Coke." Something no one asked for and no ones likes.
 
I see I hurt a few feelings in here w that claim, but I stand by it.

Will he have decent games? I'm sure of it.

Is the Andrews ppl knew and loved still around? Yes, but his jersey says "Likely" on the back now.

Keep doing you, GB. Even if your conclusions go sideways, I've found your instincts plenty valuable over the years. And while I'm not in the camp that 29 yr old Andrews is washed, I do agree that Likely looks more special than your average week 1 breakout guy - and has since preseason 2023 when he first landed on my radar. I'm bummed I didn't bid more on him to make sure I got him this week. People bid $100 on Puka exactly one year ago and got ridiculed the same way before riding that bid to a championship. Un'likely' that happens here, but defintely a significant non-zero chance it does. G/L.
 
What percentage of FAAB are people dropping on him next week in TE leagues?
Someone actually dropped him on the first waiver run of a FFPC league, redraft. These of course are 1.5 PPR to the TE. Surprising because his ADP even before the blow up game was in 12/13 turn range.

I'll be surprised if he does not go for at least $500, won't be surprised to see him go for over $800.

He is not available in any of my other 30+ leagues encompassing redraft and dynasty.
Update.

He went for $849 of $1,000 available for year. Runner up bid was $774.

Looks like he was available in three Main Event and FPC leagues. He went for $961, $849 and $815.
 
The app for Yahoo is rough, especially with the changes.

Whoever is responsible for the 2024 Yahoo FF app should be punted immediately. Not a single change is an improvement; most of them make the UI notably uglier and/or harder to use. :FourThumbsDown:
I didn't think anything could be worse than ESPN but somehow Yahoo did it. Yahoo said hey ESPN "hold my beer".

-1/10 for Yahoo
They are also incredibly slow about injury updates.

For example, instead of immediately putting a player on IR when they are placed on IR. It takes them several hours.

This forces you to drop someone so one of your league mates can't get the player you need. Instead of just being able to put your player on IR, and than pick up a player without dropping anyone. It's 2024 you'd think they would be a little quicker with these updates by now :wall:
 
Will he have decent games? I'm sure of it.
This is not the definition of “washed.” Unless you have a weird definition.

Washed players have big games all the time.
Scrubs have the occasional big game too.

Andrews still has the smarts and the hands, but the body looks thrown by the wayside.

Luckily for him, Lamar, Henry, Flowers and Likely have the top tier defenders pulled in other directions.
 
it's kinda funny seeing Andrews owners in denial that he's completely washed.
he has a strong run, but likely's new connection w lamar is wild.
Wow, what a hot take. He's 29. He's not washed. I like Likely, but I'm not casting off Mark Andrews this year.
Andrews leg is clearly just barely hanging on, by the band-aid is my guess.
wut? He wasn't injured in the car crash and I don't know of any serious injury lately. He had a cracked Fibula Fracture in 2023, but nothing indicates it's an issue now.
I tried to be SARCASTIC, I guess it didn't work. haha
 
3 100yd games in 2022.
None since. Closest was 80yds.
Destroyed his legs and looked like soup last wknd.

Sorry, Likely is the new dawg in town
 
3 100yd games in 2022.
None since. Closest was 80yds.
Destroyed his legs and looked like soup last wknd.

Sorry, Likely is the new dawg in town
I agree with you that Likely is an ascending asset, but will you be back to eat crow regarding Andrews, or will you disappear for awhile like you've done in the past?
 
Did we ever find out about that car accident Andrews had? It seemed like such a mystery and he missed like a week of practice. Maybe that is part of the reason why Likely likely takes over the alpha in this offense?
 
So if you have both, who are you starting this week?
Good *** question. I’m gonna let this week decide I believe. Last week could’ve just been one week noise for Andrews. Will be starting him this week (until I keep reading and get talked out of it).

You know what I might start both. Likely in the flex over McLaughlin and Bigsby.
 
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Start Likely or Brian Thomas Jr. this week?
tough choice. Likely has the better matchup. But I probably roll with Thomas.
Decided Thomas jr. I’m starting Andrews over Likely rather than starting both Andrews and Likely, for at least one more week. I have a feeling Andrews gets the love this week. Besides, you kill yourself if you start both and Jackson flops in the passing game.
 
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I'm currently starting Andrews over Likely in one league and Likely over Taysom in another. This way I'm covered either way lol
 

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