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TE Jermichael Finley Impressing his QB (1 Viewer)

Keep in mind Finley came out early and is still very young. Gifted athlete, but needs another year or two to really develop. However, Green Bay didn't bring in any real TE competition, and Rodgers had this to say so far about Finley. You can get him cheap, and I really think he'll take a step forward this season.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/48296177.html

Rodgers raved about two players in particular, saying Allen Barbre was the most athletic lineman the Packers have. He also complimented tight end Jermichael Finley, who seems to jump out with a big catch every practice.

"Yesterday he made two really impressive catches for touchdowns," said Rodgers. "He's a guy who has all the physical tools you could want - speed, athleticism, hands. Mentally he's just got to understand what we're trying to do on offense and make the right plays and not make any mental mistakes. And if he does that, you can't help but want to give him the ball."

 
Coaches have talked about how he has improved and been learning quite a bit.

I think he is one they really need to keep in close and don't let his attitude get out of control.

 
Coaches have talked about how he has improved and been learning quite a bit.I think he is one they really need to keep in close and don't let his attitude get out of control.
The attitude stuff is overblown. He's young, and that accounts for a lot of it. He came to Green Bay having just turned 21. It's hard enough for older guys to make the NFL transition, let alone a 21 year old. Not saying you magically mature by becoming 22, but I can see this becoming less of an issue this season.
 
Lee is ahead, yeah, based on his experience - which is important, but he's still a replacement-level TE. Finley was drafted to be the "athletic"/mismatch-creating type of TE, and if he doesn't screw it up I'm sure he'll be starting soon.

 
For the record, I would put my money on him screwing up his career. He has, shall we say, some of the same hobbies as Travis Henry. Try a Google search for "Jermichael Finley girlfriend" and stand back.

 
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For the record, I would put my money on him screwing up his career. He has, shall we say, some of the same hobbies as Travis Henry. Try a Google search for "Jermichael Finley girlfriend" and stand back.
He has some maturity issues, no doubt. Hopefully he gows out of some of that.All the same, I try not to assemble a fantasy squad of choir boys. The choir boy strategy never works for me. :yucky:
 
For the record, I would put my money on him screwing up his career. He has, shall we say, some of the same hobbies as Travis Henry. Try a Google search for "Jermichael Finley girlfriend" and stand back.
He has some maturity issues, no doubt. Hopefully he gows out of some of that.All the same, I try not to assemble a fantasy squad of choir boys. The choir boy strategy never works for me. :blackdot:
Finley has great upside as a pass catcher. Very good hands, good speed and height. Not much of a blocker at all.The real issue, that others have alluded to, and that Rodgers touches on in a polite way, is his ability to grasp what's he's supposed to be doing on any given play. He's not only immature, he has a 10 cent head and is a very slow learner. Packers are well aware of this and are hoping he can overcome, but learning the playbook and translating it to the field has been and will continue to be a real challenge for him. If he does get things figured out, he could be a very productive pass catching TE.

From the linked report when he came out of Texas, he scored a 9 of 50 on the Wonderlic, 6 on Matricies overall and 1 of 10 on Matricies Mental Quickness, and on Sigma Motivation he got 1 on Dedication, 1 on Receptivity to Coaching, 2 on Self Efficacy, and 2 on Focus (all out of 10). The report went on to say:

"Finley's mental ability scores indicate a high probability of learning difficulties and execution problems on

the field. That is, his Matrices and Wonderlic scores show that he is well below the minimum often used

for his position. As well, Finley’s SIGMA scores indicate that he has trouble maintaining his focus in

meetings and has typically gone into games not feeling prepared and ready to play. His combination of

scores indicates that there is a very good chance that he will make more mental mistakes than others will at

his position. Finley has a bad habit of relying only on his natural talents to compete. He will not always

show the concern for learning his position thoroughly that his coaches would like to see. Now and then, he

will try to skip over important details and will not attend to everything that he needs to know to prepare

properly for the next game. His inconsistency in his attention to detail will greatly limit his chances of

being all that he could be. Although it may not be obvious when talking to Finley, his confidence and

belief in his abilities are lower than that of many athletes who go on to become successful players in the

NFL. He has some significant concerns about his ability to compete in the pro game. This self-doubt will

be a limiting factor in his ability to reach his full potential at the next level or to bounce back from

adversity. Although Finley will try to get along with his coaches, he doesn’t have a high opinion of what

they've done to help his performance. He will not be openly confrontational, so coaches might think that he

bought into their system. But he will show some tendency to ignore their advice and play the game his own

way. Coaches will have to keep an eye on him to make sure that he is executing the way he was taught."

http://www.hrd-rtp.com/hrtnfl/Non-Giants%2...-%20TE_BXMS.pdf

 
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For the record, I would put my money on him screwing up his career. He has, shall we say, some of the same hobbies as Travis Henry. Try a Google search for "Jermichael Finley girlfriend" and stand back.
Hobbies create children with multiple women? I hope you're being sarcastic and not just dumb. :lmao:
 
For the record, I would put my money on him screwing up his career. He has, shall we say, some of the same hobbies as Travis Henry. Try a Google search for "Jermichael Finley girlfriend" and stand back.
Hobbies create children with multiple women? I hope you're being sarcastic and not just dumb. :lmao:
He's 22, has one child with a former gf and one child with his current wife.
 
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For the record, I would put my money on him screwing up his career. He has, shall we say, some of the same hobbies as Travis Henry. Try a Google search for "Jermichael Finley girlfriend" and stand back.
Hobbies create children with multiple women? I hope you're being sarcastic and not just dumb. :thumbup:
He's 22, has one child with a former gf and one child with his current wife.
"baby-mama-drama" ?
 
For the record, I would put my money on him screwing up his career. He has, shall we say, some of the same hobbies as Travis Henry. Try a Google search for "Jermichael Finley girlfriend" and stand back.
Hobbies create children with multiple women? I hope you're being sarcastic and not just dumb. :shrug:
He's 22, has one child with a former gf and one child with his current wife.
wow, sounds like some serious issues... :shrug: I mentioned this kid in the dynasty sleeper thread, and was surprised when not one person responded. I think he has all the tools and it's about the mental game. Just as much upside as most of the rookie TE's and he can be had cheaper. Word is that he's been putting in a lot work this summer. Guy is similar to Martelus Bennett, but he has a much easier path to significant looks in a high octane offense
 
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For the record, I would put my money on him screwing up his career. He has, shall we say, some of the same hobbies as Travis Henry. Try a Google search for "Jermichael Finley girlfriend" and stand back.
Hobbies create children with multiple women? I hope you're being sarcastic and not just dumb. :goodposting:
He's 22, has one child with a former gf and one child with his current wife.
So he made an earlier mistake...and now has a child and is married?Oh my!!!
 
For the record, I would put my money on him screwing up his career. He has, shall we say, some of the same hobbies as Travis Henry. Try a Google search for "Jermichael Finley girlfriend" and stand back.
Hobbies create children with multiple women? I hope you're being sarcastic and not just dumb. :rolleyes:
He's 22, has one child with a former gf and one child with his current wife.
So he made an earlier mistake...and now has a child and is married?Oh my!!!
Relax, other guys were making comments so I just stated the facts.
 
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The kid has talent but I just think they have too many weapons at WR for the TE to be a solid FF option.
Maybe...though, Donald Lee has had 6 TDs and 5 TDs the last two years...and IMO Finley is far more talented as a receiving option.
First off, Lee is not that much of an obstacle for Finley to move him down the back to TE2. Secondly, if he consistently demonstates the ability to produce, his options are not blocked by the WRs. The WR options would actually help his development. Assuming a neutral to slightly above running game in GB, he'd never have the best coverage DB/LB on him. The defensive seconday has to be honest in coverage and that's the look that you want. The non-blocking TE is and has become the norm and with spread formations, he'd be a 6'5 250lb mismatch for the secondary. Lastly, he has an accurate QB delivering the ball. Assuming he can keep his head above water, there's a lot to like. I do not own him in any league BTW.
 
Tackling Dummies said:
sho nuff said:
FunkyPlutos said:
The kid has talent but I just think they have too many weapons at WR for the TE to be a solid FF option.
Maybe...though, Donald Lee has had 6 TDs and 5 TDs the last two years...and IMO Finley is far more talented as a receiving option.
First off, Lee is not that much of an obstacle for Finley to move him down the back to TE2. Secondly, if he consistently demonstates the ability to produce, his options are not blocked by the WRs. The WR options would actually help his development. Assuming a neutral to slightly above running game in GB, he'd never have the best coverage DB/LB on him. The defensive seconday has to be honest in coverage and that's the look that you want. The non-blocking TE is and has become the norm and with spread formations, he'd be a 6'5 250lb mismatch for the secondary. Lastly, he has an accurate QB delivering the ball. Assuming he can keep his head above water, there's a lot to like. I do not own him in any league BTW.
Agreed, above also helped Donald Lee to 11 TDs in two years would apply equallyt to Finley if he takes the job. Lets see what happens in camp.
 
he started some last year, IIRC against the Titans.

All in all he didn't do very well BUT if the purpose was to get this raw talent some experience to "digest" in the offseason and improve upon....I could buy that.

Personally I don't think Rodgers likes to throw to the TE anywhere near as often as Favre did and also that the Pack would rather have a 3rd or 4th WR in than a TE going out for a pass.

 
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For the record, I would put my money on him screwing up his career. He has, shall we say, some of the same hobbies as Travis Henry. Try a Google search for "Jermichael Finley girlfriend" and stand back.
He has some maturity issues, no doubt. Hopefully he gows out of some of that.All the same, I try not to assemble a fantasy squad of choir boys. The choir boy strategy never works for me. :)
Finley has great upside as a pass catcher. Very good hands, good speed and height. Not much of a blocker at all.The real issue, that others have alluded to, and that Rodgers touches on in a polite way, is his ability to grasp what's he's supposed to be doing on any given play. He's not only immature, he has a 10 cent head and is a very slow learner. Packers are well aware of this and are hoping he can overcome, but learning the playbook and translating it to the field has been and will continue to be a real challenge for him. If he does get things figured out, he could be a very productive pass catching TE.

From the linked report when he came out of Texas, he scored a 9 of 50 on the Wonderlic, 6 on Matricies overall and 1 of 10 on Matricies Mental Quickness, and on Sigma Motivation he got 1 on Dedication, 1 on Receptivity to Coaching, 2 on Self Efficacy, and 2 on Focus (all out of 10). The report went on to say:

"Finley's mental ability scores indicate a high probability of learning difficulties and execution problems on

the field. That is, his Matrices and Wonderlic scores show that he is well below the minimum often used

for his position. As well, Finley’s SIGMA scores indicate that he has trouble maintaining his focus in

meetings and has typically gone into games not feeling prepared and ready to play. His combination of

scores indicates that there is a very good chance that he will make more mental mistakes than others will at

his position. Finley has a bad habit of relying only on his natural talents to compete. He will not always

show the concern for learning his position thoroughly that his coaches would like to see. Now and then, he

will try to skip over important details and will not attend to everything that he needs to know to prepare

properly for the next game. His inconsistency in his attention to detail will greatly limit his chances of

being all that he could be. Although it may not be obvious when talking to Finley, his confidence and

belief in his abilities are lower than that of many athletes who go on to become successful players in the

NFL. He has some significant concerns about his ability to compete in the pro game. This self-doubt will

be a limiting factor in his ability to reach his full potential at the next level or to bounce back from

adversity. Although Finley will try to get along with his coaches, he doesn’t have a high opinion of what

they've done to help his performance. He will not be openly confrontational, so coaches might think that he

bought into their system. But he will show some tendency to ignore their advice and play the game his own

way. Coaches will have to keep an eye on him to make sure that he is executing the way he was taught."

http://www.hrd-rtp.com/hrtnfl/Non-Giants%2...-%20TE_BXMS.pdf
Damn somebody get that boy some Ritalin!!!
 
For whatever it's worth, in Head Coach 09, he has the most upside of any of the tightends in the 2008 draft. He takes a while to develop though because his learning stat is awful.

You may think "it's just a game!" but someone does do their homework scouting for the game.

 
He was playing at the end of last year because the Packers believe he gives them a nice mis-match vs LBs.

There was a significant 4 and short play that they called his number on, because of a mis-match but before he had his first NFL reception. Didn't turn out so well, but shows what they think about him.

 
Greg Bedard (Packer beat writer) just had this to say on his Twitter update while watching their practice....

Finley just looks smooth out there. Effortless

Must be pretty apparent to observers this guy has arrived physically.

 
Love what I have been reading and seeing on Finley.

And not that I expected much...but its needed with Humphrey out again...

 
Love what I have been reading and seeing on Finley.And not that I expected much...but its needed with Humphrey out again...
Indeed. Tom Silverstein was on the radio on my way to work this morning. Basically said if Finley can improve a tick in blocking, he's the starter. Already feels that Finley and Lee will be seeing equal time, but bets on Finley getting more time if he keeps improving.
 
Season ticket holder to the University of Texas, I saw every snap of his games either live or on TV in college. He was a trememdous talent and solid. He always had more to give and would have benefitted staying in school one more year and definitely would have helped Texas as a team. He probaly would have been a first round pick in this last draft had he stayed. I have no doubt he has the talent to be a productive ff TE.

:confused:

 
Season ticket holder to the University of Texas, I saw every snap of his games either live or on TV in college. He was a trememdous talent and solid. He always had more to give and would have benefitted staying in school one more year and definitely would have helped Texas as a team. He probaly would have been a first round pick in this last draft had he stayed. I have no doubt he has the talent to be a productive ff TE. :confused:
Last year showed he would have been better off staying to prepare. As a Packers fan, Im glad he didn't and they got him cheaper and got to start grooming him last year.Hopefully he can live up to it now...
 
sounds to me like he's been working hard on his blocking and the staff is starting to be confident in him

Packers' Finley is the real deal

August 7, 2009 7:30 PM

Posted by ESPN.com's Kevin Seifert

AP Photo/Morry Gash

Tight end Jermichael Finley seems poised to have a breakout season.

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- All I could see from my vantage point was the No. 58 on the back of reserve linebacker Danny Lansanah's jersey. I knew there was someone standing behind him in the back of the end zone, and I saw that person's hands reach over Lansahah's head to snatch an Aaron Rodgers pass.

I couldn't see the number, but I had no doubt who it was. Over two days of Green Bay's training camp, after all, I had already seen tight end Jermichael Finley make two similar catches and a host of other "wow" plays. I'd already had a number of people insist that Finley is poised to be one of the Packers' breakout stars this season, someone who is as comfortable on the line of scrimmage as he is split out wide and who could force significant changes in the way defenses approach their offense.

Everything I've seen so far leads me to agree. Finley has rebounded from a shaky rookie season, one the Packers have attributed to immaturity. Built like an NBA small forward, Finley's speed and athletic ability have made him "unguardable" during practice, Rodgers said Friday. And coach Mike McCarthy said Finley's blocking skills have improved to the point where he can be deployed in any formation and for any role.

"I'm just excited and confident with what I'm about to get into," said Finley, a third-round draft choice out of Texas last season. "When I was at Texas, I used to look at Texas Tech's [passing scheme] and say, 'Man, I would love to have that offense.' And now, basically, it's come true. I'm just going to love it this year when the real games come."

Said Packers general manager Ted Thompson: "Historically the tight end has been huge in the classic West Coast offenses and I think sometimes we've gotten away from that a little bit. The idea is to get back to using those guys. It's difficult for defensive backs. Your skill guys outside are busy trying to handle [Donald] Driver and [Greg] Jennings."

Finley left Texas as an underclassman and didn't turn 22 until 3 1/2 months ago. His adjustment to NFL life was steep. He hit one particularly egregious bump after criticizing Rodgers and the Packers' offensive coaches after a close loss at Tennessee. Suffice it to say that all has been forgiven.

"It's nice when they grow up," McCarthy said. "He was just so young last year. ... When you think about it, that's just a part of developing young players. He's a talented player and loves football. I love the way he plays, with great passion and energy."

Indeed, Finley is like an energetic kid on the practice field, bounding from drill to drill. I've seen him line up as the solo tight end and as part of a double-tight package. He's been a so-called "H-back," has been positioned in the slot and even split out on the far sideline. Everything looks natural and his soft hands rarely betray him. Even the Packers defenders who can stay with him have no chance to touch the ball before he does.

It's harder to judge Finley's blocking without knowing specific assignments, but McCarthy said he "absolutely" feels comfortable using him in any blocking situation.

"When I first got in here," Finley said. "The big thing that everybody was talking about me was that I was just a pass-catching tight end. I think even as last year went on, I progressed in that area. It's a good thing I came out the way I did, because it made me work for that. Now, I grade my blocking as an A+ right now. I just told myself to bunker down and make it my priority. I know that if I go out for a catch, I know I can do that. The challenge was my blocking."

Donald Lee remains the Packers' No. 1 tight end, but from what I saw Finley is essentially 1a. I imagine that starting lineups will be a function of gameplans as much as anything else, but there is little doubt Finley will have ample opportunity to impact the offense this season.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcnorth/0-13-4...-real-deal.html
 
I like Finley, but I think Lee is going to hurt his FF numbers. I believe Finley would be better off with another team as far as FF is concerned. Even if he improves his blocking & becomes a 3-down player, there's too many other good targets in Green Bay. Also, it doesn't seem like Rodgers looks to the TE much (we'll see if that changes).

I do have him in a league or two, & I'm hoping for the best, but I don't see him ever becoming a top FF TE (not with the Packers, anyway).

 
I like Finley, but I think Lee is going to hurt his FF numbers. I believe Finley would be better off with another team as far as FF is concerned. Even if he improves his blocking & becomes a 3-down player, there's too many other good targets in Green Bay. Also, it doesn't seem like Rodgers looks to the TE much (we'll see if that changes).

I do have him in a league or two, & I'm hoping for the best, but I don't see him ever becoming a top FF TE (not with the Packers, anyway).
From the above article:
Said Packers general manager Ted Thompson: "Historically the tight end has been huge in the classic West Coast offenses and I think sometimes we've gotten away from that a little bit. The idea is to get back to using those guys.
I've been high on Finley this offseason and have grabbed him where available in leagues. He's going to surprise a lot of people this year and could be high in the TE rankings in 2010.
 
I like Finley, but I think Lee is going to hurt his FF numbers. I believe Finley would be better off with another team as far as FF is concerned. Even if he improves his blocking & becomes a 3-down player, there's too many other good targets in Green Bay. Also, it doesn't seem like Rodgers looks to the TE much (we'll see if that changes).

I do have him in a league or two, & I'm hoping for the best, but I don't see him ever becoming a top FF TE (not with the Packers, anyway).
From the above article:
Said Packers general manager Ted Thompson: "Historically the tight end has been huge in the classic West Coast offenses and I think sometimes we've gotten away from that a little bit. The idea is to get back to using those guys.
I've been high on Finley this offseason and have grabbed him where available in leagues. He's going to surprise a lot of people this year and could be high in the TE rankings in 2010.
I hear ya. Like I said, I have him in a league or two, myself. If he was a tad better athlete/receiving prospect (& he's certainly well above-average in those categories), say something like Jared Cook, I'd be all over him (especially if he was in a little better situation). Finley just misses me being really high on him.
 
I like Finley, but I think Lee is going to hurt his FF numbers. I believe Finley would be better off with another team as far as FF is concerned. Even if he improves his blocking & becomes a 3-down player, there's too many other good targets in Green Bay. Also, it doesn't seem like Rodgers looks to the TE much (we'll see if that changes).

I do have him in a league or two, & I'm hoping for the best, but I don't see him ever becoming a top FF TE (not with the Packers, anyway).
From the above article:
Said Packers general manager Ted Thompson: "Historically the tight end has been huge in the classic West Coast offenses and I think sometimes we've gotten away from that a little bit. The idea is to get back to using those guys.
I've been high on Finley this offseason and have grabbed him where available in leagues. He's going to surprise a lot of people this year and could be high in the TE rankings in 2010.
I hear ya. Like I said, I have him in a league or two, myself. If he was a tad better athlete/receiving prospect (& he's certainly well above-average in those categories), say something like Jared Cook, I'd be all over him (especially if he was in a little better situation). Finley just misses me being really high on him.
His athleticism and receiving skills are his strong suit from everything I've read. It's the blocking and understanding of the playbook (he has a fairly low IQ to be honest) that need improvement.
 
I like Finley, but I think Lee is going to hurt his FF numbers. I believe Finley would be better off with another team as far as FF is concerned. Even if he improves his blocking & becomes a 3-down player, there's too many other good targets in Green Bay. Also, it doesn't seem like Rodgers looks to the TE much (we'll see if that changes).

I do have him in a league or two, & I'm hoping for the best, but I don't see him ever becoming a top FF TE (not with the Packers, anyway).
From the above article:
Said Packers general manager Ted Thompson: "Historically the tight end has been huge in the classic West Coast offenses and I think sometimes we've gotten away from that a little bit. The idea is to get back to using those guys.
I've been high on Finley this offseason and have grabbed him where available in leagues. He's going to surprise a lot of people this year and could be high in the TE rankings in 2010.
I hear ya. Like I said, I have him in a league or two, myself. If he was a tad better athlete/receiving prospect (& he's certainly well above-average in those categories), say something like Jared Cook, I'd be all over him (especially if he was in a little better situation). Finley just misses me being really high on him.
His athleticism and receiving skills are his strong suit from everything I've read. It's the blocking and understanding of the playbook (he has a fairly low IQ to be honest) that need improvement.
I agree. He's a very good athlete/receiver. I'm just saying he's not quite in the class of guys like Cook (TEs who aren't necessarily good blockers, but have the athleticism & receiving skills to get lots of opps).
 
I don't think its the other targets taking away from the TEs in this offense.

Its a few things.

- lack of a true receiving threat the last few years. Lee is ok, but hardly a big thread.

- difficulties on the Oline leading to the TE staying in much more to block than in the past.

 
I like Finley, but I think Lee is going to hurt his FF numbers. I believe Finley would be better off with another team as far as FF is concerned. Even if he improves his blocking & becomes a 3-down player, there's too many other good targets in Green Bay Also, it doesn't seem like Rodgers looks to the TE much (we'll see if that changes).

I do have him in a league or two, & I'm hoping for the best, but I don't see him ever becoming a top FF TE (not with the Packers, anyway).
rodgers' career is way to young to form that opinino... from his praises of finley that i've read, it sure seems like the QB appreciates the TE's ability and even mentioned finding a way to get him the ball if the picks up the O.
 
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I remember a game or two where they tried to force-feed him the ball with the game on the line. Seemed odd to put that in the hands of a rookie. He failed and the Pack lost. But apparently the coaches like him. I just think he's not quite as bright as my ### hair.

That being said, I tried picking him up but just missed out in two leagues.

 
I remember a game or two where they tried to force-feed him the ball with the game on the line. Seemed odd to put that in the hands of a rookie. He failed and the Pack lost. But apparently the coaches like him. I just think he's not quite as bright as my ### hair. That being said, I tried picking him up but just missed out in two leagues.
you can't compare where he is now to where he was at midseason last year. His inability to understand what was going on at the time was well documented. He was a disaster. But from what all his coaches and now his QB are saying, it's like day and night now compared to then. Best to get the midseason rookie memories out of your head as they will only taint things unnecessarily for you.
 
Finley/Lee 2009 = Olsen/Clark 2008.Servicable backup, but not an every week fantasy starter.
I just got back from Packers Camp and Finley looks great. By mid season he will be a fantasy starter. He won't get drafted in most leagues so keep an eye on him as a waiver wire pickup.
 
Finley/Lee 2009 = Olsen/Clark 2008.

Servicable backup, but not an every week fantasy starter.
I just got back from Packers Camp and Finley looks great. By mid season he will be a fantasy starter. He won't get drafted in most leagues so keep an eye on him as a waiver wire pickup.
Headline in Today's online paper after the GB-Browns preseason GameSterling exhibition for Finley, Packers

Tight end Jermichael Finley looks as if he's going to be the biggest difference in the Green Bay Packers' offense this season. That might be a bold statement to make after two weeks of practice and one exhibition game: a 17-0 victory over the Browns Saturday night.

Depending upon how deep your league is, rules, etc, JF is getting drafted already

 
"I could feel him out there," a personnel director for another National Football League team said at halftime. "He's going to create some matchup problems. It's all about matchups at that position. Look at Dallas when they got (Martellus) Bennett to go with (Jason) Witten. Then they had two (threats)."
Pretty sure this was Panthers GM Marty Hurney (if anyone cares).
 
He's slowly moving up draft boards, but not fast enough. Still a great bargain. I began pimping him early in the year, back before the NFL draft, so I've been watching this story very closely. He belongs in the Z Miller / Carlson / Keller tier. Not as many receptions as those guys, but a YPC more like a WR than a TE, and I could definitely see 7+ TDs.

 

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