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TE Tucker Kraft, GB (1 Viewer)

rockaction said:
These guys won’t let them run enough routes. When will you all learn? He’s gotta get out and actually run the route and then get the ball delivered. They’re also using Musgrave in camp according to the beat reporters.

He will be great and efficient if Love finds his accuracy again, but his volume is a major question.
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When will we all learn what you just learned like 6 hours ago?
 
Doubles said:
rockaction said:
These guys won’t let them run enough routes. When will you all learn? He’s gotta get out and actually run the route and then get the ball delivered. They’re also using Musgrave in camp according to the beat reporters.

He will be great and efficient if Love finds his accuracy again, but his volume is a major question.
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When will we all learn what you just learned like 6 hours ago?
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LOL. All you have to do is go back to any of the receiver threads and hear everybody complain that you can’t rely on any one receiver to score. I just gave a number to what everybody knew. Would you like me to pull quotes from the Wicks, Reed, or Love threads? Wait, don’t answer that. I’m lazy and the burden should rest with you. Happy hunting if you go for it! Ciao!
 
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Bronco Billy said:
Rookie TEs not named Bowers struggle in their first year as a rule, even some of the very best who have ever played. It’s an incredibly difficult position to master, maybe the toughest on the field after QB.

You just got lucky and don’t even realize it.
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Sam LaPorta, the TE1 overall in his rookie season the year before Bowers, would like to take objection to your position.
 
rockaction said:
They’re also using Musgrave in camp according to the beat reporters.
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I think many may be overlooking Musgrave in the equation. Kraft seems to be a more capable receiving option, but Musgrave may be out there enough to put a thorn in our sides as Kraft owners.

Just hoping that the cheese-obsessed Packers staff doesn’t look down their noses at low brow Kraft.
 
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SayWhat? said:
Bronco Billy said:
Rookie TEs not named Bowers struggle in their first year as a rule, even some of the very best who have ever played. It’s an incredibly difficult position to master, maybe the toughest on the field after QB.

You just got lucky and don’t even realize it.
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Sam LaPorta, the TE1 overall in his rookie season the year before Bowers, would like to
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SayWhat? said:
Bronco Billy said:
Rookie TEs not named Bowers struggle in their first year as a rule, even some of the very best who have ever played. It’s an incredibly difficult position to master, maybe the toughest on the field after QB.

You just got lucky and don’t even realize it.
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Sam LaPorta, the TE1 overall in his rookie season the year before Bowers, would like to take objection to your position.
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Yeah, I’m sure you may be able to find a couple more exceptions. Now could you please list all the strong FF TEs who struggled their rookie year? TIA
 
Bronco Billy said:
Yeah, I’m sure you may be able to find a couple more exceptions. Now could you please list all the strong FF TEs who struggled their rookie year? TIA
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I would take two examples over the past two seasons over you finding me all the third round TEs that had low-mid level production their first two years and then suddenly exploded into the elite tier of fantasy TEs in their 3rd season. I’m sure you might find a couple exceptions, but now please name all those that continued to be low-mid level producers. Fun game, no?

PS - I love Kraft, but preferring Loveland or Warren this year is perfectly reasonable.
 
Bronco Billy said:
SayWhat? said:
Bronco Billy said:
Rookie TEs not named Bowers struggle in their first year as a rule, even some of the very best who have ever played. It’s an incredibly difficult position to master, maybe the toughest on the field after QB.

You just got lucky and don’t even realize it.
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Sam LaPorta, the TE1 overall in his rookie season the year before Bowers, would like to
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SayWhat? said:
Bronco Billy said:
Rookie TEs not named Bowers struggle in their first year as a rule, even some of the very best who have ever played. It’s an incredibly difficult position to master, maybe the toughest on the field after QB.

You just got lucky and don’t even realize it.
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Sam LaPorta, the TE1 overall in his rookie season the year before Bowers, would like to take objection to your position.
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Yeah, I’m sure you may be able to find a couple more exceptions. Now could you please list all the strong FF TEs who struggled their rookie year? TIA
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Pitts had a 1000 yard season as a rookie as well. The question is are we seeing a new trend where there is something different about the way the game is being played at college or the NFL that creating an environment where rookie TEs can be successful more often or are these just kind of random flukes?
 
Statorama said:
I don't know if we have a breakout player thread - but this guy would be on mine.
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I agree. He's the best TE value if you missed the big 3. Kittle like after the catch skills, quality QB that is likely to be closer to 2023 form than 2024 due to health and Watson, Reed are hurt. Musgrave has missed significant time to injury in 6 of the last 7 years of football even dating back to high school.
 
SayWhat? said:
Bronco Billy said:
Yeah, I’m sure you may be able to find a couple more exceptions. Now could you please list all the strong FF TEs who struggled their rookie year? TIA
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I would take two examples over the past two seasons over you finding me all the third round TEs that had low-mid level production their first two years and then suddenly exploded into the elite tier of fantasy TEs in their 3rd season. I’m sure you might find a couple exceptions, but now please name all those that continued to be low-mid level producers. Fun game, no?

PS - I love Kraft, but preferring Loveland or Warren this year is perfectly reasonable.
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Most TE’s (regardless of draft capital) don’t become year-in, year-out FF studs (seemingly including multiple year 1 breakouts like Laporta and Pitts), but you did just pretty precisely describe Travis Kelce iirc

EDIT: obviously doesn’t mean he’s the next kelce but if he isn’t the draft capital and counting stats won’t be why. Guy passes the eyeball test at the nfl level big time IMO
 
Kraft becoming the most consistent and reliable target for Love feels like the easiest "should have seen that coming" scenario in all of fantasy this year. No real WR1, a young QB that has come out publicly saying they need to get the ball to Kraft as much as possible. Lots of buzz around the incoming rookie WR - but isn't the answer here just that Kraft is set up to be the Packers number one target?
 
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Ray Barboni said:
Karft becoming the most consistent and reliable target for Love feels like the easiest "should have seen that coming" scenario in all of fantasy this year. No real WR1, a young QB that has come out publicly saying they need to get the ball to Kraft as much as possible. Lots of buzz around the incoming rookie WR - but isn't the answer here just that Kraft is set up to be the Packers number one target?
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I took him tonight and only drafted 1 TE
We don't give anything extra and there are still players available like Hunter, Gesicki, etc...I'm going with Kraft with several weeks, hope you all right but I also am not hearing camp reports that would indicate he's their #1 target. The target numbers from last year are worthless IMHO, Love threw 150 less passes than the year prior

I also think Golden is a little undervalued right now
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Ray Barboni said:
Karft becoming the most consistent and reliable target for Love feels like the easiest "should have seen that coming" scenario in all of fantasy this year. No real WR1, a young QB that has come out publicly saying they need to get the ball to Kraft as much as possible. Lots of buzz around the incoming rookie WR - but isn't the answer here just that Kraft is set up to be the Packers number one target?
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I took him tonight and only drafted 1 TE
We don't give anything extra and there are still players available like Hunter, Gesicki, etc...I'm going with Kraft with several weeks, hope you all right but I also am not hearing camp reports that would indicate he's their #1 target. The target numbers from last year are worthless IMHO, Love threw 150 less passes than the year prior

I also think Golden is a little undervalued right now
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/st...focus-on-te-tucker-kraft-in-2025/84141819007/

"Tuck is going to be a big part of the offense," Love said. "Since he's stepped on the scene, he's shown who he is as a playmaker and shown us reasons why we should keep giving him the ball. I think a big part of going into this season is finding ways to continue getting Tuck the ball. Get him as many touches as we can in a game because he's dynamic playmaker and does some really good things once he gets it in his hands. That's going to be a focus, making sure we get him as many touches as possible each week."
 
Big catch early for a 15 yard touchdown and then just sort of disappeared. Can’t complain compared to some of my other TE choices.

This is what many of you were afraid of in this offense that spreads it around. The lack of consistent targets.

I dropped Goedert for him. Who got peppered with targets on short underneath routes but didn’t really do much with them.
 
VikingFrog said:
Big catch early for a 15 yard touchdown and then just sort of disappeared. Can’t complain compared to some of my other TE choices.

This is what many of you were afraid of in this offense that spreads it around. The lack of consistent targets.

I dropped Goedert for him. Who got peppered with targets on short underneath routes but didn’t really do much with them.
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Also Love just overthrew Kraft on what would have likely been a 60+ yard TD.
 
travdogg said:
VikingFrog said:
Big catch early for a 15 yard touchdown and then just sort of disappeared. Can’t complain compared to some of my other TE choices.

This is what many of you were afraid of in this offense that spreads it around. The lack of consistent targets.

I dropped Goedert for him. Who got peppered with targets on short underneath routes but didn’t really do much with them.
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Also Love just overthrew Kraft on what would have likely been a 60+ yard TD.
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Also had a sick pass for him defense for him on a quick out.
 
VikingFrog said:
Big catch early for a 15 yard touchdown and then just sort of disappeared. Can’t complain compared to some of my other TE choices.

This is what many of you were afraid of in this offense that spreads it around. The lack of consistent targets.

I dropped Goedert for him. Who got peppered with targets on short underneath routes but didn’t really do much with them.
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I still think he will be a big part of the offense. The Lions were just being eaten alive on the outside and actually did ok against the run.
In games where either the coverage outside is better and/or Jacobs gets rolling, the middle will be there for Kraft to eat.
 
I have LaPorta, Kraft, Hockenson, and Pitts in a dynasty league. Feeling more and more like Kraft will become the set it and forget it guy but I’m doomed to make the wrong call many times over. Need to make a trade or two!
 
For whatever reason (maybe the giant C on his chest) I noticed tonight he’s a Captain.

I’ve never thought about it during drafts, but I wonder if there’s some stat pointing to captains producing more than non captains? Trusted in big situations. Leaders.

I don’t know why tonight made me think if that’s a thing or not. But surely could be an edge if waffling between two guys.

Now back to my midnight bowl of Kraft Mac n Cheese to celebrate Thursday night fun.
 
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On my bench but drafted him late to keep away from others! He flashed last year with some of the best YPR and YAC you could ask for. Wide receiver like metrics. So I agree with the Kittle or high YPR tight end comparable talents.

Still think it’s frustrating for fantasy but he may make my McBride share expendable!
 
GB just announced Jayden Reed broke his collarbone, and is almost certainly going on IR. They don't think his season is over, but Halloween is probably a best case scenario. Sucks to see for Reed, and hopefully his foot can heal too, and he can be 100% once he's back.

Tucker Kraft, in my opinion, is the #1 beneficiary of this loss. A lot of Reed's slot stuff becomes Kraft stuff when Reed is out. When Reed is playing, Kraft sometimes gets stuck in the flats or blocking. I think its completely reasonable to view Kraft as a top-3 TE for the next 6 weeks, and I'm not sure they'll be able to put the genie back in the box upon Reed's (or Watson's) return.
 
travdogg said:
GB just announced Jayden Reed broke his collarbone, and is almost certainly going on IR. They don't think his season is over, but Halloween is probably a best case scenario. Sucks to see for Reed, and hopefully his foot can heal too, and he can be 100% once he's back.

Tucker Kraft, in my opinion, is the #1 beneficiary of this loss. A lot of Reed's slot stuff becomes Kraft stuff when Reed is out. When Reed is playing, Kraft sometimes gets stuck in the flats or blocking. I think its completely reasonable to view Kraft as a top-3 TE for the next 6 weeks, and I'm not sure they'll be able to put the genie back in the box upon Reed's (or Watson's) return.
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Agreed. No way he goes on any benches now. I can see both Kraft and Golden benefitting but unfortunately Golden probably needs Watson back so Watson can take the deep threat role.

Anything 6-8-10 yards from the LOS will certainly be schemed up for Kraft as much as they can going forward
 
Wow. Kraft had a 95% route share when Green Bay dropped back to pass tonight. That's unreal. When I posted upthread to be wary of Green Bay's route share, it apparently no longer includes Tucker Kraft. That's an L on my part. For Green Bay's part, though? They didn't have a WR that broke 65% route participation when they dropped back to pass in Week One.

That means downgrade their receivers and send this guy . . . to the moon.
 
greenmountaingoat said:
Glad to have him, bummed he was on my bench womp womp. Makes me want to try to talk my league mates into best ball.
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Had him in my lineup in one league, benched for Warren in a couple others.

This will bother me for a long time if I take any Ls because of it because this beast is un-benchable now.
 
Went late TE if Kittle didn't fall and ended up with Warren and/or Kraft on 3 teams. Couldn't be happier. Gonna be a "good" issue where I have both Warren and Kraft
 
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