Put me down for the Jets as well. Although I think they are improving as a team, they will play the entire NFC East next year, arguably the best conferences in the NFC along with Baltimore, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville (#2 AFC South), and Kansas City (#2 AFC West) There is no break in the schedule that I can see. It will be a tough year.
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Teams that took a step foward in 06, (1 Viewer)
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New Orleans Saints Home: Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams, Philadelphia Eagles, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans. Away: Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Chicago Bears, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts. The only game I think they'll be out of early is Indy, even with defensive upgrades. Several are clear-cut wins (Texans, 49ers, Tampa, Falcons, Titans, Panthers, Eagles). No reason double-digit wins are out of the question.
Bankerguy
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I would hardly call Philly/Carolina even Tennesse as clear wins.It's not as hard as I thought it would be....but double digits easily???? Not sure.I'll stick with NO as my choice.
Deranged Hermit
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Whoa, whoa, whoa there, settle down Skippy. The three teams I bolded above are hardly gimmies. They barely beat the Eagles both times they played (both times at home), they lost twice to the Panthers (I think) and the Titans are a team on the rise. I can easily see them losing 3 of the 4 games they play against those teams (they obviously play CAR twice).*edit* Bankerguy beat me to the punch. Damn work calls.....
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Sidewinder
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Just wondering, are the ones who say New Orleans looking at this as a 3-13 to 10-6 fairy tale jump where everything broke right ? If so, I can certainly understand the sentiment of them falling back to earth.
However, I look at it as a team that was essentially a .500 team for the past 5 years (2004: 8-8; 2003: 8-8; 2002: 9-7; 2001: 7-9; 2000: 10-6) which consistently underperformed due to Haslett and Brooks. Replace those two clowns with Payton and Brees, infuse the team with some great young talent (Bush, Colston, Evans, Harper) and some high character vets (Fujita, Faine), and it really isn't that surprising this was a 10-6 team in 2006. Sure, there are some holes, specifically MLB and a CB opposite McKenzie, but I think there is alot of upside for the next couple of years. Injuries are always the wild card, so you never really know, but I like the future. I'm not trying to sway any one's opinion, just the way I see things. Thanks for reading, homer analysis off...
However, I look at it as a team that was essentially a .500 team for the past 5 years (2004: 8-8; 2003: 8-8; 2002: 9-7; 2001: 7-9; 2000: 10-6) which consistently underperformed due to Haslett and Brooks. Replace those two clowns with Payton and Brees, infuse the team with some great young talent (Bush, Colston, Evans, Harper) and some high character vets (Fujita, Faine), and it really isn't that surprising this was a 10-6 team in 2006. Sure, there are some holes, specifically MLB and a CB opposite McKenzie, but I think there is alot of upside for the next couple of years. Injuries are always the wild card, so you never really know, but I like the future. I'm not trying to sway any one's opinion, just the way I see things. Thanks for reading, homer analysis off...
BoltBacker
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Exactly my thinking. Sure, they had a big jump in 06 but that big jump can be directly attributed to moves they made to improve. Improved QB and leadership by light years. Improved coach. Improved playmakers on offense. I can understand where some people thought their defense may have played over their heads but that offense isn't slowing down next year. I think you can make a pretty strong argument the offense will actually improve more than the defense will falter.
Carolina's decline continues. They could barely pull out a win against the Saints' BACKUP defense in Week 17. An erratic Delhomme and the big pair of DTs have greatly underperformed. They resigned Captain Concussion (Morgan) over the stud Witherspoon on defense. They are on the decline after the peak a couple of years ago
I'm not buying Tennessee as a powerhouse. They don't have the firepower to keep up with the Saints. Plus, we already play Mike Vick twice a year, both wins in 2006, and are used to playing defense vs. a scrambling quarterback/run-first offense.
Eagles are overrated. Take Stallworth, the only big-play receiver, out because they are letting him go and McNabb's injury without Garcia there(he will go elsewhere) and you are looking at an ugly year in Philly. Hell, we beat them twice, both times when they were on their A-game (Mcnabb's hot streak and then Garcia's). Minus the offensive players for the Eagles (Stallworth, McNabb, Garcia) and with defensive help for the Saints and the game isn't as close as it was this year. Saints by a marginal lead.
I'm not buying Tennessee as a powerhouse. They don't have the firepower to keep up with the Saints. Plus, we already play Mike Vick twice a year, both wins in 2006, and are used to playing defense vs. a scrambling quarterback/run-first offense.
Eagles are overrated. Take Stallworth, the only big-play receiver, out because they are letting him go and McNabb's injury without Garcia there(he will go elsewhere) and you are looking at an ugly year in Philly. Hell, we beat them twice, both times when they were on their A-game (Mcnabb's hot streak and then Garcia's). Minus the offensive players for the Eagles (Stallworth, McNabb, Garcia) and with defensive help for the Saints and the game isn't as close as it was this year. Saints by a marginal lead.
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Mr. Peterson
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Wait, Im not sure how you dont say the Bills arent going to improve.... The QB is finally coming into his own, the O-line is coming together and even if Mcgahee is lost the Bills have second most cap in the NFL, Im sure they will find someone who will compete. And on Def, they have a lot of young talent, two rookies that started and did well, and two that have potential and could pay up later on but didnt play due to injury. Again, with the cap available clements and fletcher wont be impossible to replace if they let them go, and thats a big if. I can see fletcher getting tagged. Lastley dont forget that this isnt donahoe at GM, this is marv levy! Hes already builing the team to take Buffalo back to the bowl. The jets were fluke, miami sniffs and the pats are on the decline.
Rovers
Footballguy
ARZ beat SF twice this year, I don't see how them improving next year would hurt SF relative to this season.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
How can you say Jets werent fluke, they ranked in the bottom 5 in both Off and Def in the NFL. Obviously miami is struggling and maybe a new coach will help but I doubt it. And NE isnt the same team they were. Their plug it in method is not having the same effect and they have no WRs and its obviously hurting them. The inside of their Def is weak and the best Def guy probably wont be around bc the pats think they are too good to pay somebody the money they deserve.
Rovers
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The Jets had ten wins. They beat NE at NE, and easilly could have won the games with the Bears and Indy. Some of the stats got skewed with the early season spanking by Jax. In the second half of the season, with a new D scheme, they were giving up less than 13 points per game. They gave NE a run for their money in the playoff game for 3 1/2 quarters. NE won how many games again? They skated to another division title. Yes, I agree with Miami, but your take on the Jets and NE is pureHow can you say Jets werent fluke, they ranked in the bottom 5 in both Off and Def in the NFL. Obviously miami is struggling and maybe a new coach will help but I doubt it. And NE isnt the same team they were. Their plug it in method is not having the same effect and they have no WRs and its obviously hurting them. The inside of their Def is weak and the best Def guy probably wont be around bc the pats think they are too good to pay somebody the money they deserve.
Mr. Peterson
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ok, so maybe its slightly biased lol. But I watched Buff play the Jets twice and Buff looked like the better team, and the time they lost was due to JP not holding on to the ball. And NE has a good team yes, all i was saying is that the coach is errogant and his crazy methed he has in NE is going to catch up to them.The Jets had ten wins. They beat NE at NE, and easilly could have won the games with the Bears and Indy. Some of the stats got skewed with the early season spanking by Jax. In the second half of the season, with a new D scheme, they were giving up less than 13 points per game. They gave NE a run for their money in the playoff game for 3 1/2 quarters. NE won how many games again? They skated to another division title. Yes, I agree with Miami, but your take on the Jets and NE is pureHow can you say Jets werent fluke, they ranked in the bottom 5 in both Off and Def in the NFL. Obviously miami is struggling and maybe a new coach will help but I doubt it. And NE isnt the same team they were. Their plug it in method is not having the same effect and they have no WRs and its obviously hurting them. The inside of their Def is weak and the best Def guy probably wont be around bc the pats think they are too good to pay somebody the money they deserve.
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The Ravens are the safest bet for this... it seems hard to believe they could match this year's 13-3 record next year after likely losing a few starters and McNair getting another year older. I'm not saying they'll be a bad team, just that they're a longshot to match or exceed 13-3.
My bet though goes to the Jets and Chiefs. The Jets were coahced extremely well last year, but I think their lack of talent will catch up to them. The Chiefs actually lost one more game in 2006 than in 2005, but they made the playoffs... so you could say they made a step forward. But I think they'll suffer a BIG letdown next year. I could see them having only 5 wins.
My bet though goes to the Jets and Chiefs. The Jets were coahced extremely well last year, but I think their lack of talent will catch up to them. The Chiefs actually lost one more game in 2006 than in 2005, but they made the playoffs... so you could say they made a step forward. But I think they'll suffer a BIG letdown next year. I could see them having only 5 wins.
I want to clear something up. If a team plays better than experts and fans expected, that dosn't mean they played "over their heads", it means the experts were wrong. The Saints didn't play inspired football, they played good football. Deal with the fact you were wrong, stop making silly arguments, and enjoy the best offense in the NFL for the next 3+ years.
Rovers
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KC is at a real crossroads here. They had better pay attention to the O line, and draft at least one O lineman that can start in 2007. Some Chiefs fans (from MB's) think they can get by with what they had on the O line last year, but there's no way, not given the power running game Edwards insists on running. Shields could be retiring this year as well.
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