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Smack Tripper said:
larry_boy_44 said:
Smack Tripper said:
larry_boy_44 said:
squistion said:
larry_boy_44 said:
Smack Tripper said:
I wonder how much of the old Testament Chris Brossard follows? I assume he's cool with slavery?
If you'd ever read it, slavery in the Old Testament is nothing like slavery in colonial America. One was suppression of a people based on race, the other was a system of repayment of debt that had specific end dates (seriously, go read it).
Yeah, like that really makes a difference to the person enslaved.
Again, you should really read the parts of the Old Testament law that cover slavery and the "Year of Jubilee" and returning of family property to the family. Because it made a HUGE difference to the person enslaved. But you wouldn't have the first clue what the Bible actually says because you're just going off some website that says that the Bible said slavery was ok, but never actually read it for yourself, right?
Larry I could throw a rock and find stuff that is antiquated in the old testament and abandoned.But there was something about not throwing stones that we are supposed to follow too. Or was that judge not lest thee be, wait wait, that's not it. Christ said that. What's that got to do with Christianity?You know who follows the old testament?Jews.Which is fine and they as a people are infinitely more tolerant than so called Christians with a fundamentalist bent.If you hate gays, that's your business, not christ's. So don't do it in his name.
Do you understand the word "context"?
Good one dude.Do you?Because I made none of the inferred inroads that you did with respect to Broussard and slavery.You chose to lawyer up the good book.I merely wondered aloud what Broussard would have thought about the green light on slavery in the bible in any context.But thank you you for being the voice of the "willfully" indentured of thousands of years ago
Yeah, you should re-read it. I'm not the one who brought up slavery, I merely pointed out that the slavery we demonize is not the same as the slavery mentioned in the Bible. The only people who would disagree with that are either afraid of the response of people who don't understand that fact or people who don't understand that fact themselves.

 
larry_boy_44 said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Mark%20Davis said:
. Fifteen years ago you may have lost your job if you had spoken out for gay rights and spoke on your beliefs. That wouldn't have been right either.
That's not equal. One is being tolerant of others, one is intolerance. Like walking in the Southern black activist rallys... or rallying against blacks ever having any rights. It doesn't matter if you hide behind religion to do it, either.
So is it intolerant to say that murder is a sin? Is it intolerant to say lying is a sin? Is it intolerant to say that drinking alcohol is a sin?
What you don't seem to understand is that there is a fundamental difference between saying "I'm gay" and saying "I lay with males as I would lay with a woman".But it's okay. Christians are going to be the last ones arriving at the party, but eventually you guys will get there.
 
larry_boy_44 said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Mark%20Davis said:
. Fifteen years ago you may have lost your job if you had spoken out for gay rights and spoke on your beliefs. That wouldn't have been right either.
That's not equal. One is being tolerant of others, one is intolerance. Like walking in the Southern black activist rallys... or rallying against blacks ever having any rights. It doesn't matter if you hide behind religion to do it, either.
So is it intolerant to say that murder is a sin? Is it intolerant to say lying is a sin? Is it intolerant to say that drinking alcohol is a sin?
What you don't seem to understand is that there is a fundamental difference between saying "I'm gay" and saying "I lay with males as I would lay with a woman".But it's okay. Christians are going to be the last ones arriving at the party, but eventually you guys will get there.
So gay men don't have sex with other men?

Because that's all that phrase means. And I'm relatively sure that admitting you have a feeling isn't what is being talked about by Broussard or anyone else.

 
the slavery that we demonize may not be the same one in the bible but that sure did not stop the same type of guys who are now saying the bible condemns being gay from saying the bible said slavery was ok see the thing is it is not about the bible it is about the person and if you have love in your heart then the bible does not say go out and crucify gays or call them sinners or say they are not christians that is just coming from people who have hate in there hearts and are now trying to twist the bible in to saying that they are right but hey in the end its the same crap we have seen for the past 50 years when you have hate and you have a weak intolerant mind go say the good book backs you up the problem is that its a tired argument and unless you are too young or two self important to remember the past its all been done before and it stunk then just as much as it stinks now and frankly when kids are committing suicide because they have jerkstore clerks throwing hate filled interpretations of the bible at them its time for a change brohans take that to the bank

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?

 
the slavery that we demonize may not be the same one in the bible but that sure did not stop the same type of guys who are now saying the bible condemns being gay from saying the bible said slavery was ok see the thing is it is not about the bible it is about the person and if you have love in your heart then the bible does not say go out and crucify gays or call them sinners or say they are not christians that is just coming from people who have hate in there hearts and are now trying to twist the bible in to saying that they are right but hey in the end its the same crap we have seen for the past 50 years when you have hate and you have a weak intolerant mind go say the good book backs you up the problem is that its a tired argument and unless you are too young or two self important to remember the past its all been done before and it stunk then just as much as it stinks now and frankly when kids are committing suicide because they have jerkstore clerks throwing hate filled interpretations of the bible at them its time for a change brohans take that to the bank
Matthew 18:

15 “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[e] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[f] loosed in heaven.

19 “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
Actually, Jesus himself disagrees with what you are saying. We are to confront sin, and remove it from our lives and our company.

 
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the slavery that we demonize may not be the same one in the bible but that sure did not stop the same type of guys who are now saying the bible condemns being gay from saying the bible said slavery was ok see the thing is it is not about the bible it is about the person and if you have love in your heart then the bible does not say go out and crucify gays or call them sinners or say they are not christians that is just coming from people who have hate in there hearts and are now trying to twist the bible in to saying that they are right but hey in the end its the same crap we have seen for the past 50 years when you have hate and you have a weak intolerant mind go say the good book backs you up the problem is that its a tired argument and unless you are too young or two self important to remember the past its all been done before and it stunk then just as much as it stinks now and frankly when kids are committing suicide because they have jerkstore clerks throwing hate filled interpretations of the bible at them its time for a change brohans take that to the bank
Matthew 18:

>

15 “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[e] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[f] loosed in heaven.

19 “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
Actually, Jesus himself disagrees with what you are saying. We are to confront sin, and remove it from our lives and our company.
that is probably why so many people are arguing with you

 
the slavery that we demonize may not be the same one in the bible but that sure did not stop the same type of guys who are now saying the bible condemns being gay from saying the bible said slavery was ok see the thing is it is not about the bible it is about the person and if you have love in your heart then the bible does not say go out and crucify gays or call them sinners or say they are not christians that is just coming from people who have hate in there hearts and are now trying to twist the bible in to saying that they are right but hey in the end its the same crap we have seen for the past 50 years when you have hate and you have a weak intolerant mind go say the good book backs you up the problem is that its a tired argument and unless you are too young or two self important to remember the past its all been done before and it stunk then just as much as it stinks now and frankly when kids are committing suicide because they have jerkstore clerks throwing hate filled interpretations of the bible at them its time for a change brohans take that to the bank
Matthew 18:


>

15 “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[e] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[f] loosed in heaven.

19 “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.&

rdquo;
Actually, Jesus himself disagrees with what you are saying. We are to confront sin, and remove it from our lives and our company.

that is probably why so many people are arguing with you brohan

fixed

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
so

it would be ok if you could not pay me for me to enslave you (and beat you with a rod)

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
so

it would be ok if you could not pay me for me to enslave you (and beat you with a rod)
3000 years ago in Ancient Israel? Yes.

Today with small claims courts, wage garnishments, and everything else? No.

Different world, different possibilities, different rules. You know this already, I don't know why you're pretending to not understand.

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
lol

slavery was ok with a purpose, and genocide was not evil, it was necessary

so if it has a purpose or is necessary any atrocity is excusable

l

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
So what was OK back then is not OK today? Just want to make sure I understand what you are saying

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
:o

 
What you don't seem to understand is that there is a fundamental difference between saying "I'm gay" and saying "I lay with males as I would lay with a woman".But it's okay. Christians are going to be the last ones arriving at the party, but eventually you guys will get there.
So gay men don't have sex with other men?
Not all of them, no. And frankly it's kinda intolerant and bigoted for you to assume that they all do.If you want to judge someone for actually violating a bible verse, go right ahead. But you better be damn sure they've actually done what you're condemning them for doing.
 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
so

it would be ok if you could not pay me for me to enslave you (and beat you with a rod)
3000 years ago in Ancient Israel? Yes.

Today with small claims courts, wage garnishments, and everything else? No.

Different world, different possibilities, different rules. You know this already, I don't know why you're pretending to not understand.
I thought they were all God's rules

so he was ok with slavery and genocide then, but now is not

I do understand, human morals change

and they are changing on homosexuality and your kids will dismiss your arguments the way you dismiss the slavery arguments

 
ahhh the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification never fails i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery. rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
so it would be ok if you could not pay me for me to enslave you (and beat you with a rod)
3000 years ago in Ancient Israel? Yes. Today with small claims courts, wage garnishments, and everything else? No. Different world, different possibilities, different rules. You know this already, I don't know why you're pretending to not understand.
:lol: Why not apply this to gays? Different world, different possibilities, different rules. You know this already, I don't know why you're pretending to not understand.
 
What you don't seem to understand is that there is a fundamental difference between saying "I'm gay" and saying "I lay with males as I would lay with a woman".But it's okay. Christians are going to be the last ones arriving at the party, but eventually you guys will get there.
So gay men don't have sex with other men?
Not all of them, no. And frankly it's kinda intolerant and bigoted for you to assume that they all do.If you want to judge someone for actually violating a bible verse, go right ahead. But you better be damn sure they've actually done what you're condemning them for doing.
i know as a straight man i went a long time never having sex with a woman

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
lol

slavery was ok with a purpose, and genocide was not evil, it was necessary

so if it has a purpose or is necessary any atrocity is excusable

l
its kind of like how its not immoral for a soldier to kill an enemy combatant in war, but it is wrong for that same soldier to walk up to a random person and shoot them.

killing is never a "good" thing, but there are times it is allowable or necessary. That doesn't mean we can take those examples and copy them, we can't. Those were commands for a specific moment in a specific place for a specific purpose. But that doesn't mean that there were reasons that they were commanded that way.

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
lol

slavery was ok with a purpose, and genocide was not evil, it was necessary

so if it has a purpose or is necessary any atrocity is excusable

l
its kind of like how its not immoral for a soldier to kill an enemy combatant in war, but it is wrong for that same soldier to walk up to a random person and shoot them.

killing is never a "good" thing, but there are times it is allowable or necessary. That doesn't mean we can take those examples and copy them, we can't. Those were commands for a specific moment in a specific place for a specific purpose. But that doesn't mean that there were reasons that they were commanded that way.
So killing all the children of an enemy is ok when god tells you too

nothing radically terrorist about that philosophy

 
What you don't seem to understand is that there is a fundamental difference between saying "I'm gay" and saying "I lay with males as I would lay with a woman".But it's okay. Christians are going to be the last ones arriving at the party, but eventually you guys will get there.
So gay men don't have sex with other men?
Not all of them, no. And frankly it's kinda intolerant and bigoted for you to assume that they all do.If you want to judge someone for actually violating a bible verse, go right ahead. But you better be damn sure they've actually done what you're condemning them for doing.
I don't. homosexual sex is what the Bible condemns. Having a feeling isn't (although how we react to that feeling can be). I've been under the assumption that that has been true since the beginning of the thread.

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
so

it would be ok if you could not pay me for me to enslave you (and beat you with a rod)
3000 years ago in Ancient Israel? Yes.

Today with small claims courts, wage garnishments, and everything else? No..
Small claims court: Preventing atrocities since '13.

Explains all the black people I see walking around with Judge Wapner T-shirts.

 
the slavery that we demonize may not be the same one in the bible but that sure did not stop the same type of guys who are now saying the bible condemns being gay from saying the bible said slavery was ok see the thing is it is not about the bible it is about the person and if you have love in your heart then the bible does not say go out and crucify gays or call them sinners or say they are not christians that is just coming from people who have hate in there hearts and are now trying to twist the bible in to saying that they are right but hey in the end its the same crap we have seen for the past 50 years when you have hate and you have a weak intolerant mind go say the good book backs you up the problem is that its a tired argument and unless you are too young or two self important to remember the past its all been done before and it stunk then just as much as it stinks now and frankly when kids are committing suicide because they have jerkstore clerks throwing hate filled interpretations of the bible at them its time for a change brohans take that to the bank
Matthew 18:

>

15 “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[e] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[f] loosed in heaven.

19 “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.&

rdquo;Actually, Jesus himself disagrees with what you are saying. We are to confront sin, and remove it from our lives and our company.
that is probably why so many people are arguing with you brohan
fixed
hate mongers are not brohans brohan take that right to the bank

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
so

it would be ok if you could not pay me for me to enslave you (and beat you with a rod)
3000 years ago in Ancient Israel? Yes.

Today with small claims courts, wage garnishments, and everything else? No.

Different world, different possibilities, different rules. You know this already, I don't know why you're pretending to not understand.
I thought they were all God's rules

so he was ok with slavery and genocide then, but now is not

I do understand, human morals change

and they are changing on homosexuality and your kids will dismiss your arguments the way you dismiss the slavery arguments
God's views on things aren't changing, but God's not stupid and He realizes what can be done and what can't. Israel needed a way to repay debt, He gave them one. He needed a way to stop uprisings, so He gave them directions.

But God's morality has never, ever changed. Any human sexual activity outside of marriage as God defined it (between man and woman) is a sin.

 
ahhh the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification never fails i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery. rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
so it would be ok if you could not pay me for me to enslave you (and beat you with a rod)
3000 years ago in Ancient Israel? Yes. Today with small claims courts, wage garnishments, and everything else? No. Different world, different possibilities, different rules. You know this already, I don't know why you're pretending to not understand.
:lol: Why not apply this to gays? Different world, different possibilities, different rules. You know this already, I don't know why you're pretending to not understand.
because government and morality are not the same thing.

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
so

it would be ok if you could not pay me for me to enslave you (and beat you with a rod)
3000 years ago in Ancient Israel? Yes.

Today with small claims courts, wage garnishments, and everything else? No..
Small claims court: Preventing atrocities since '13.

Explains all the black people I see walking around with Judge Wapner T-shirts.
JOEWAP IS MY HOMEBOY!

 
ahhh the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification never fails i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery. rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
so it would be ok if you could not pay me for me to enslave you (and beat you with a rod)
3000 years ago in Ancient Israel? Yes. Today with small claims courts, wage garnishments, and everything else? No. Different world, different possibilities, different rules. You know this already, I don't know why you're pretending to not understand.
:lol: Why not apply this to gays? Different world, different possibilities, different rules. You know this already, I don't know why you're pretending to not understand.
right on cliffy you go get em you get a brohan star of approval from this old boy

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
so

it would be ok if you could not pay me for me to enslave you (and beat you with a rod)
3000 years ago in Ancient Israel? Yes.

Today with small claims courts, wage garnishments, and everything else? No.

Different world, different possibilities, different rules. You know this already, I don't know why you're pretending to not understand.
I thought they were all God's rules

so he was ok with slavery and genocide then, but now is not

I do understand, human morals change

and they are changing on homosexuality and your kids will dismiss your arguments the way you dismiss the slavery arguments
God's views on things aren't changing, but God's not stupid and He realizes what can be done and what can't. Israel needed a way to repay debt, He gave them one. He needed a way to stop uprisings, so He gave them directions.

But God's morality has never, ever changed. Any human sexual activity outside of marriage as God defined it (between man and woman) is a sin.
did you just say god gave the jews genocide?

 
and if i recall

Jericho was not an isreali uprising

it was a city of people living its lives, and god ordered every living soul (other than the hooker) to be killed simply for picking the wrong piece of land to live on (if you believe that stuff)

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
Gee Larry there was more than one form of slavery and so it wasn't all debt slavery. There was sexual slavery, there was slavery for foreigners, etc. And if you weren't an Jewish male the whole get out of it in seven years wasn't really an option. Don't chide others on their lack of knowledge when you remain woefully under informed. And yes Rape and Genocide were ordered by God. Do I really need to post the passages yet again?

 
ahhh

the old bible slavery was not AS bad as black slavery justification

never fails

i assume old testament biblical rape and genocide is not as bad as 20th century rape and genocide either?
slavery had a purpose then, it was about debt collection and didn't resemble the "modern" idea. It was more like having your wages garnished than actual slavery.

rape was never condoned and genocide was, unfortunately, basically a "necessity" of the ancient world. When you decry destroying a city and its people in those days you are ignoring the reality of how the world existed. It'd like saying the death penalty was wrong and things like Hammurabi's codes were morally wrong, but it was the only way they could enforce laws in those days.
so

it would be ok if you could not pay me for me to enslave you (and beat you with a rod)
3000 years ago in Ancient Israel? Yes.

Today with small claims courts, wage garnishments, and everything else? No.

Different world, different possibilities, different rules. You know this already, I don't know why you're pretending to not understand.
I thought they were all God's rules

so he was ok with slavery and genocide then, but now is not

I do understand, human morals change

and they are changing on homosexuality and your kids will dismiss your arguments the way you dismiss the slavery arguments
God's views on things aren't changing, but God's not stupid and He realizes what can be done and what can't. Israel needed a way to repay debt, He gave them one. He needed a way to stop uprisings, so He gave them directions.

But God's morality has never, ever changed. Any human sexual activity outside of marriage as God defined it (between man and woman) is a sin.
did you just say god gave the jews genocide?
He commanded them to destroy whole countries when taking over the promised land.

I'd explain how they were immoral and were acting against God and a ton of other things, but none of that is going to matter to you. But, God did command Israel to destroy nations in the Promised land.

 
hey listen commish what we do is we just use the parts we like but not the parts we do not like that is the path of the righteous and stuff like that i guess and so is calling people dooshes i guess that is probably in the good book somewhere to man i guess i missed it in sunday school though that is for sure take that to the bank brohans

 
So gay men don't have sex with other men?

Because that's all that phrase means. And I'm relatively sure that admitting you have a feeling isn't what is being talked about by Broussard or anyone else.
No, it isn't. Do all heterosexual people have sex?

 
hey listen commish what we do is we just use the parts we like but not the parts we do not like that is the path of the righteous and stuff like that i guess and so is calling people dooshes i guess that is probably in the good book somewhere to man i guess i missed it in sunday school though that is for sure take that to the bank brohans
Too often true brohan

 
and if i recall

Jericho was not an isreali uprising

it was a city of people living its lives, and god ordered every living soul (other than the hooker) to be killed simply for picking the wrong piece of land to live on (if you believe that stuff)
future uprisings, not current.

Think Japan in WWII, if we wouldn't have dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they would have literally fought us to the last person standing in the island of Japan, that is the world Israel lived in in those days, every nation was similar to that.

There was little choice but to either destroy your enemies completely or to enslave them (and even enslaving them wasn't assured to keep peace going forward). There wasn't choice because they'd keep fighting forever, even if it was hopeless.

 
Larry didn't bring the Christianity debate into this thread.
Don't care. He's terrible.
Then by all means, continue being a doosh.
I'm the doosh for pointing out absudity?
Not really sure makes you the way you are. Give me time to think about it.
wat

 
i should not have engaged Larry on this in this thread sorry mad props to Jason Collins
The mental gymnastics he performs are quite entertaining. I, for one, am glad you engaged him.
i am pretty sure i could use his arguments to justify enslaving all gays and having them build a bomb and then using said bomb to nuke the very same gays for acting immoral and acting against god

unless some are abstaining....

 

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