Chaos Commish
Footballguy
disappointed. i want djoker to get the gs, but i wanted an epic 5th set. zverev's time is coming. he got game
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Tennis - Sinner accepts three month ban - won't miss Roland Garros (2 Viewers)
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BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Maybe you get your wish. Typical Joker brain farts to close out a match.
Master of Past and Present
Footballguy
Kinda funny since he had a cameo in the Expandables 2 that was cut.
I've always been a Nadal fan but I also like Djokovic's game.
Excited to watch both finals.
Dr. No
Footballguy
I think it's awful. Just another meaningless champion in women's tennis like an ostapenko. Women's game is full of these 1 or 2 hit wonders.. The top players are not really that great. It's pathetic and should get record low ratings... Though maybe not as bad as that all Italian final where the gal retired after the match
El Floppo
Footballguy
Dr. No
Footballguy
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
No idea what you're talking about.
Do you mean Novak's record in 5 setters vs Nadal (2-1) and Federer (4-0). How is that "brainfarting" to close out matches, especially the ones that really matter?
He's 4-1 vs Stan in 5 setters, btw, and 2-1 vs Murray, so that puts him at 12--3 against the best.
"At the moment if we analyze all the matches in which Djokovic, Nadal and Federer have reached the fifth set, the statistics tell us that the Serb has won 31 times and lost 10 times with an average victory equal to 76%." Nadal was at 65% and Fed's at 58%.
Novak's 31 wins in 5 set matches already were the most in history, with only 10 losses (as of last June.) I believe he's gone at least 5-0 since so he's at aprox 37-10 now or almost 80%. Nobody's close to that.
The choking to close out matches could not be further from the truth.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
If they weren't 18 & 19 I'd agree with you.Dr. No said:
As it is, there's a non-trivial chance that one of them (Raducanu IMO) will be the next real deal.
That one guy
Footballguy
I’ll forever be a Fed #fanboy, but hard to argue with Joker at least being on same level as GOAT. I’ll make excuses and say things like his (Novak) competition last few years has been subpar compared to Fed and Rafa at their height, but quietly concede you still have to win regardless and that’s what Novak has been doing.
It’s still so odd, I remember when he first came on tour and looked so awkward with his Curious George looking hair, robotic style of play yet somehow not in control of his body either. Goofy, that’s really all I came away with. And now he’s one match away from history. Might as well root for it as he deserves respect for his play
It’s still so odd, I remember when he first came on tour and looked so awkward with his Curious George looking hair, robotic style of play yet somehow not in control of his body either. Goofy, that’s really all I came away with. And now he’s one match away from history. Might as well root for it as he deserves respect for his play
El Floppo
Footballguy
sure. if it was a couple of no-name 20-somethings, who cares.
but to everyone but mr nattering nabob above, an 18yo qualifier not losing a single set en route to the finals playing against another 18yo (I'm not counting 3 days of being 19) who beat 3 top 5 players in the world along the way... yeah- a real yawner. AWFUL.
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
Once Novak was broken in the 4th set, finally, and with Zverev serving out of his mind, Djokovic was better off going for more shots while saving energy for a 5th set against a much younger foe. That's why you didn't see the rallies we saw in that pivotal 3rd set, one of which consisted of 53 SHOTS -- the most in the entire tournament for ANY match.
So one could say Joker's "brain farts" in the 4th actually were key in him steam-rolling Zverev in the 5th -- like he's done more than anyone in the history of the sport.
It was smart. If Federer had done something similar, "brain farts" would've been interpreted as genius instead.
Dr. No
Footballguy
Also a fed fanboy for life, but if he wins tomorrow... or wins another major sometime next year (likely), there will be no statistical argument that backs Roger or Ralph as the GOAT. He'll have everything you need... he just doesn't have the fan support or the class... but he's the GOAT. What will be interesting is.. if he wins tomorrow... and thus has nothing more to chase... will he still come strong next year or will he step off the gas? I mean something tells me he'd want to add a buffer one or 2 in case Ralph recovers and can nab another FO
The General
Footballguy
The young unknown kid gonna roll today!
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Important hold for Fernandez there. Needed to stem Raducanu's momentum
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
That was a lovely soft overhead from Raducanu there. Great touch
ETA: All credit to Raducanu. She dictated play more than Fernandez did today. From qualifier to US Open champ without losing a set. Amazing.
ETA: All credit to Raducanu. She dictated play more than Fernandez did today. From qualifier to US Open champ without losing a set. Amazing.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
That was great. Almost no nerves -- both of them went for everything.
El Floppo
Footballguy
this is the fourth time I've watched Fernandez this Open...and she was (understandably) at her tightest and most error prone. She had been consistent and icy in the other matches.
but wow Raducanu...amazing run and well played final. and a bit of a looker too, which is going to help with the endorsements.
Dr. No
Footballguy
I mean I'd be willing to wager that Raducanu never wins another major... even though she just won the whole effing thing without losing a set after qualifying to get in.. which is absurd. Trust me... another Ostapenko... she'll lose in the first round next year.
El Floppo
Footballguy
so?
didn't make this any less amazing- even if the actual tennis was a bit nervy and not tip top.
Dr. No
Footballguy
It's so impressive that it makes me think the entire wta must have been on their period this week and this gal is new to the tour and thus not in sync so she felt good and crushed
El Floppo
Footballguy
so instead of explaining it, you minimize and denigrate the achievements of two young women by invoking menstruation. huh.
Dr. No
Footballguy
Look I'll eat my words if this gal is the real deal and has a nice career. But if what is far more likely to happen happens, which is her disappearing and never getting to another major final like so many wta one hit wonders then I'll stand by my statement that she just caught lightning for 2.5 weeks weeks in a week field. That said, she made monster money this week. You can't take that away, that victory is forever.. good for her. Hope she saves most of the money
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Disappointed but good run for Djoker. Helluva win for Medvedev.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Women younger than Raducanu when they won their first major:
Graf, Serena Williams, Sanchez Vicario, Sharapova, Austin, Seles, Hingis.
All of them won at least one more, and all but Austin won at least three more.
Next two youngest after Raducanu were Mandlikova (4) and Kuznetsova (2).
I'm taking the over.
Graf, Serena Williams, Sanchez Vicario, Sharapova, Austin, Seles, Hingis.
All of them won at least one more, and all but Austin won at least three more.
Next two youngest after Raducanu were Mandlikova (4) and Kuznetsova (2).
I'm taking the over.
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Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
I will never get it. Idiotic. Tennis thinks they are still in the 80's. Or that it's coming back.
Who doesn't know basic marketing at that level?
So dumb. Move it up ONE week, geniuses.
Sand
Footballguy
I thought the women's final was superb and the quality of play was very, very high. Raducanu appears to be the real deal.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I don't care if both of the women's finalists are one-offs. It made the tournament more interesting having both of these kids advancing all the way to the finals, each in their own manner and they each played great tennis along the way. Watching something historic like this is great, especially when the quality is still high.
facook
Footballguy
Part of it was driven by having bet (and won) on Raducanu from the round of 32 on. But I was generally interested in the final, and I'm a little smitten by Emma. I watched the entire final, flipping to college football during commercials. Never though I would say that. What a run by Emma and Leylah was a princess in her post match interview.
Capella
Footballguy
Dr. No
Footballguy
Maybe. But I'm going with dream 2 weeks.... and even if she never wins again she'll always have that run and hopefully that money and some endorsement cash since she's attractive.
Loses in first round at Indian Wells to #100 in straight sets, was never competitive
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2021/10/09/analysis-sudden-success-means-enormous-pressure-emma-raducanu/
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Dr. No
Footballguy
Raducanu... still a fluke.. still sucks. Still hot and rich tho. WS
https://sports.yahoo.com/emma-raducanu-vs-marta-kostyuk-141724896.html
https://sports.yahoo.com/emma-raducanu-vs-marta-kostyuk-141724896.html
Dr. No
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
So the same criteria for judging her as a one off winner, you're using to judge her as a one off loser...except now this time it sticks.
Ok then
Sand
Footballguy
Dr. No
Footballguy
Yeah I've got a grand on "never wins another major". I got so mad at people proclaiming her the next big thing when the entire wta for years now has been full of these flukes
El Floppo
Footballguy
Mad? Whoa. Why would you care what happens with her career or what other people think might happen with it...especially to take a negative- and from the outside, bordering nasty- stance on it?
jimmy b
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
The Joker messed around and found out!
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Would be really interesting to see how long he would hold out if there’s a chance he could miss other Grand Slams - considering he still needs one more to take the top spot.
