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Texans signing Derrick Ward (1 Viewer)
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Casting Couch
Footballguy
Makes sense. They have very little behind Foster..... unfortunately for Houston, they still do.
Babu Bhatt2
Footballguy
Some air goes out of the Foster balloon...
Gopher State
Footballguy
I was thinking the same. The big issue is that Ward is not in football shape. But if gets in shape, which he should, he will cut into Foster's numbers. Good move by the Texans.
FavreCo
Footballguy
jacobo_moses
Footballguy
SOrry guys I disagree. I think Ward was signed as insurance for a between the tackle experienced veteran. Nothing more nothing less. This is if Foster goes down. The only reason Ward did solid in New York was because Jacobs wore down the defense and the Giants had one heck of an offensive line. Ward will primarily be used as insurance for Foster if he goes down. Thats if and when Ward gets into football shape, and picks up the playbook. Just my 2 
Cents
CentsWatched a bunch of the Bucs last year, and preseason games. Ward sucks. If you have a roster spot run and get him really quick and try to trade him to the frantic paniced Foster owner. Otherwise he is worthless.
Yeah, cause a guy who signs a big contract for a new team (TB) and immediately starts to let himself go and get lazy is gonna become a workout warrior and have an impact role while learning a new system a week before the season opener.I can see the logic here.I was thinking the same. The big issue is that Ward is not in football shape. But if gets in shape, which he should, he will cut into Foster's numbers. Good move by the Texans.
Football Jones
Footballguy
You always have to ask yourself why a team would make a particular move. I know a lot of people like Jeremiah Johnson (great movie, btw), but this might be more of an indictment on him than anybody. I'm withholding judgment on Johnson for now. I've got last week's preseason game taped and will take another look at him.
Anyway, one thing I've learned in FF is sometimes no matter how much we like a prospect, what really matters is how much the organization likes the player. Maybe Kubiak and company aren't that high on Johnson. It's definitely a possibility. And remember, actions speak louder than words. I tend to ignore verbal praise when actions dictate something else.
Then again, I don't have Slaton in any of my leagues so I'm not totally up on his current injury (without looking). Might be that this is insurance, not sure. Interesting signing.
Anyway, one thing I've learned in FF is sometimes no matter how much we like a prospect, what really matters is how much the organization likes the player. Maybe Kubiak and company aren't that high on Johnson. It's definitely a possibility. And remember, actions speak louder than words. I tend to ignore verbal praise when actions dictate something else.
Then again, I don't have Slaton in any of my leagues so I'm not totally up on his current injury (without looking). Might be that this is insurance, not sure. Interesting signing.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
you have got to be kidding me..I was thinking the same. The big issue is that Ward is not in football shape. But if gets in shape, which he should, he will cut into Foster's numbers. Good move by the Texans.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Please. A guy that gets cut from a team with nothing but a used Caddy and a 2nd year UDFA from Hofstra isn't much to worry about.
>implying ward is good enough to split carries with Foster
Dave Larkin
Moderator
This move has Kubiak written all over it. I can't see Ward having much of an impact beyond being an insurance policy should Foster/Slaton go down.
SWC
Bromigo
Only if a hot dog cart happens to pass by on the street.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Ward wasn't signed to curtail Foster's opportunities, he was signed because both Jeremiah Johnson and Steve Slaton are injured and not guaranteed to play in Week One.
joffer
Footballguy
That's some good bait. Subtle yet effective
shnikies
Footballguy
Si, correcto. Topic closed.
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Exactly my thinking...this guy just got cut by a rb deficient a team that made a significant investment in him only 1 year ago. Tampa didn't want to cut him, but his lackluster play left them no choice.
coolnerd
Footballguy
I posted this in the TExans pre-season threadI am reading this as roster manipulation. Johnson's injury is not season ending, so a 2nd IR for him would not make sense. At the same time, I don't think he is eligible to go on PUP. the alternative is to reach an "injury settlement" i.e. pay him not to sign with another team and cut him with Johnson's promise not to sign with another team. The Texans will put him on the practice squad and in some combination of when he is healthy/they need him, I expect that Johnson will show up on the regular roster. We will find out on Sunday if my guesstimation is right.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Drop Foster down the rankings.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Babu Bhatt2
Footballguy
Everyone defending Foster has to remember one thing: he has never been "the guy" in the NFL before. He's obviously shown the coaches something, but he has risen up draft boards over the past month largely because of the lack of alternatives in Houston. Tate is out for the year. Slaton has fallen into disfavor with the coaches for a number of reasons, but a big one is ball security. Johnson is also injured. Ward, if nothing else, represents a veteran option that Kubiak can trust not to fumble the football. Once Ward gets the hang of the offense I could see him getting 5-10 carries a game, which would certainly eat into Foster's numbers.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Derrick Ward was exposed. He ran behind a great line with the Giants, when everybody was getting 5 YPC. He just ain't that good. I drafted him late last year and he did zip, nada, nothing. Foster will need a breather at some point. But in no way does this have any impact on the number of carries he was going to get anyway. DWard. Please.
GregR_2
Footballguy
I caught McClain on 610 and he was indicating something along those lines. That the move is to avoid having his salary for the year be guaranteed by being on the roster at the start of the season, and they'd look to pick him back up when he's healthy. Not sure if they'll do practice squad as soon as they can, or wait until he's healthy and either do practice squad then, or put him on the regular roster.
Babu Bhatt2
Footballguy
For a guy with nothing left in the tank, it's surprising that four to five teams wanted to sign him after he was cut. Just saying...
Are you "downgrade Foster" people on drugs? Do you not see that Johnson and Slaton are both injured? What on earth do you expect the Texans to do? Are you just jealous Dominick Davis owners from 5 years ago? Have you even watched a second of Bucs and Texans' preseason games to know the level of separation between these backs? Of course Foster is always two fumbles away from a benching in favor of *anyone* who is behind him. That is his primary risk and will always be if GK is coach. This changes none of that, though having Ward being the one "behind" him for the first month is a blessing for Foster owners. There is an 80% chance Johnson will get his job back when he is ready. I switched to this this board a month ago because of what seemed to be a group of high quality posters. This thread is an indictment against my decision.
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Football Jones
Footballguy
Like I said in my previous post, Houston may not be as high on Johnson as some people think. I know he's banged up, but it's not an endorsement when you get cut (simply because it leaves him exposed on the waiver wire). There's less of a chance somebody will claim him since he's injured, so we'll see.
As far as Foster, I believe he's probably the most talented RB they have, but that's not saying a whole lot. As it stands now, he has a LOT to prove & could easily disappoint, IMO. That said, I don't view Ward as a real threat unless he was dogging it in Tampa. We'll know much more about the Texans RB situation after a few games.
As far as Foster, I believe he's probably the most talented RB they have, but that's not saying a whole lot. As it stands now, he has a LOT to prove & could easily disappoint, IMO. That said, I don't view Ward as a real threat unless he was dogging it in Tampa. We'll know much more about the Texans RB situation after a few games.
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Jason Wood
Zoo York
I said it last night (before Johnson was waived) and I'll say it again...signing Ward is in NO WAY a reason to downgrade Foster. He's depth and almost assuredly won't even be the RB2 once Slaton is right.
UncleZen
Footballguy
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