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The 100 Greatest “New Wave” songs 1. Everybody Wants to Rule the World-Tears for Fears (2 Viewers)

Ghost Rider said:
I’ve tried to like Rock Lobster, but it’s an annoying bag of horse manure. 
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i can see that ... i happen to give it a very passable like, and think it slides in well here. 

but they could be all kinds of annoying on so many levels - see my previous posts. 

 
rockaction said:
The Go-Go's are one of my favorite bands and have been since the time I was a kid. I loved them as a kid, as a teen, in college, in adulthood.

Criminally underrated trailblazing band. Beauty And The Beat is a masterpiece from its cover to its execution. 
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"Criminally underrated" seems to be the term kids these days use to mean "I like this popular thing WAY more than most people do."

Beauty And The Beat went double platinum, the band has sold 7 million albums worldwide, and they have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

How much more rated should they be?

 
Andy Dufresne said:
"Criminally underrated" seems to be the term kids these days use to mean "I like this popular thing WAY more than most people do."

Beauty And The Beat went double platinum, the band has sold 7 million albums worldwide, and they have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

How much more rated should they be?
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Belnda shoulda had better than Dino's son?

:shrug:

 
Andy Dufresne said:
"Criminally underrated" seems to be the term kids these days use to mean "I like this popular thing WAY more than most people do."

Beauty And The Beat went double platinum, the band has sold 7 million albums worldwide, and they have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

How much more rated should they be?
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Fair enough on the achievement front and the semantic argument. I just think critics and fans alike warm to the thought of the Go-Go's as sort of a memory of '80s halcyon days and overlook the serious pop/indie craftsmanship that went into their records.

 
rockaction said:
Fair enough on the achievement front and the semantic argument. I just think critics and fans alike warm to the thought of the Go-Go's as sort of a memory of '80s halcyon days and overlook the serious pop/indie craftsmanship that went into their records.
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I think what I'm hearing is that you think they're better musicians than they're given credit for. That they're more than their image. I would definitely agree with that.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
I think what I'm hearing is that you think they're better musicians than they're given credit for. That they're more than their image. I would definitely agree with that.
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Better songwriters, too, which is huge when you're writing power pop tunes. I think people see the Go-Go's through a set of eyes that undercuts their talent level. But yeah, I think we pretty much agree. 

 
joey said:
I don’t love OMD but definitely remember the great gig at Jones Beach, Long Island, (The Mecca for New Wave concerts in the 80s since WLIR was on Long Island) where it was a triple bill of Sugarcubes, OMD and Depeche Mode. Ok, Maybe the Sugarcubes were part of a different triple-header, but I definitely saw them at Jones Beach, as well as Depeche and OMD together. New Wave euphoria! Maybe it was for DM's 101 tour. 
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Jones Beach was (and I imagine still is) a great venue. Love that the floor is the beach/sand. I saw INXS there (85?) from the second row. Great show.

 
rockaction said:
Better songwriters, too, which is huge when you're writing power pop tunes. I think people see the Go-Go's through a set of eyes that undercuts their talent level. But yeah, I think we pretty much agree. 
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 "Vacation" and "Head Over Heels" rank right up with anything else coming out that era - smart, tight ... power pop goodness.   

they will always have a home on my playlists.

 
joey said:
I don’t love OMD but definitely remember the great gig at Jones Beach, Long Island, (The Mecca for New Wave concerts in the 80s since WLIR was on Long Island) where it was a triple bill of Sugarcubes, OMD and Depeche Mode. Ok, Maybe the Sugarcubes were part of a different triple-header, but I definitely saw them at Jones Beach, as well as Depeche and OMD together. New Wave euphoria! Maybe it was for DM's 101 tour. 
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Probably with PiL and New Order circa 1989. I saw them in Milwaukee that summer. 

 
timschochet said:
34. “Rock Lobster” The B-52s (1979, from The B-52s) 

https://youtu.be/szhJzX0UgDM

From the opening riff this is one of the most recognizable songs of the era. Heck my 21st Century kids know it (and love it.) Like “Planet Claire” the lyrics are nonsensical. Fred and the gang are out to enjoy life. Might as well join them. 
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Definitely iconic, but never was a huge fan of the B52s in general 

 
otb_lifer said:
same year, summer of '89 - the Cure/Love & Rockets/Pixies at Jints Stadium up here ... did that one make it to your area?
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They all made it to Chicago iirc. Love & Rockets with the Pixies made it to Milwaukee that Fall. Awesome show all around. I also saw Pink Floyd in Paris that Summer. 

 
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timschochet said:
Give them a break. They never made any money until that song. Now they live well. Why not? 
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He’s too punk for that #### man. An artist better never “sell out”* or they are dead to him.

* that means put out a record he doesn’t like, that sells well

 
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Anarchy99 said:
Tom Petty? 
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As odd as it may seem now, he was marketed as New Wave for his early records - and is some ways it's not as crazy as it seems. With that said, he should not be included here.

 
The thing I liked about Rock Lobster was that it actually did rock. The...I don’t know what to call it...part that starts around the time one of the ladies (Kate?) shrieks has a maniacal energy that is pretty unique.

 
Brony said:
I was 12 when Eliminator came out and I was an immediate fan.   My adoration was a testament to how embarrassing ZZ Top was at that time.  
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I only became aware of their earlier catalog years later. I was so put off by my introduction to them that it took a long time for me to give it a chance.

 
otb_lifer said:
howzabout Adam Ant cruising up in a fully decked out Pirate ship?  could see that #### a mile away ... the pyrotechnics and cannon "BOOMS!" were insane.  
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Yes - and the stage being in the Ocean is/was a huge plus. 

I did not see a ton of shows there (and have not been there is a real long time despite still being somewhat local) but all of the ones I did were very memorable.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
As odd as it may seem now, he was marketed as New Wave for his early records - and is some ways it's not as crazy as it seems. With that said, he should not be included here.
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Yep. It probably helped his career a ton, as opposed to being another post-Woodstock AOR act (which is closer to the truth). All those New Wave fans and proto-yuppies probably wouldn't have bought his records had he not been marketed directly to them.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
Yep. It probably helped his career a ton, as opposed to being another post-Woodstock AOR act (which is closer to the truth). All those New Wave fans and proto-yuppies probably wouldn't have bought his records had he not been marketed directly to them.
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In (ahem) my defense (me being a proto-yuppie) I think I was eleven when Southern Accents came out. It was certainly different than it was marketed, and I never cared for it.

 
timschochet said:
34. “Rock Lobster” The B-52s (1979, from The B-52s) 

https://youtu.be/szhJzX0UgDM

From the opening riff this is one of the most recognizable songs of the era. Heck my 21st Century kids know it (and love it.) Like “Planet Claire” the lyrics are nonsensical. Fred and the gang are out to enjoy life. Might as well join them. 
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it's always noteworthy when you can remember the first time you heard a song 40 yrs later. The Albuquerque i moved to  in '79 was as clueless as any place i've ever lived. Not only clueless but 1000 miles away from any place that had a clue, an important distinction in those pre-satellite days. Toughest part of that for a young man in his late 20s who needed a little help closing is that there were NO cool date places. Me & a buddy came up with one (it worked best on a double) - sneaking into the swimming pool at the Albq Hilton. As vapid an area as it was it was a big hit with college girls and young secretary/nurse types, esp w a load on, to walk into the Hilton and thru the lobby looking enough like a citizen not to arouse suspicion and then change into poolwear and have drunken date fun while remaining Hiltonworthy.

The only time we got kicked out was because of Rock Lobster. The four of us tooling down Menual Blvd into the sunset (a visual known well to any Breaking Bad fans), as intoxicated by anticipation as tequila on our way to pull off a long con. Then this totally thrashed song that none of us had ever heard comes on the radio, dancing with narwals & piranhas & tanning butter & #### and we were all cardancing by "watch out for the bikini whale!!!!". It had sillied us so that i knew this was going to be the toughest mission yet for the Impossible Date Squad. We just barely held it together for the lobby raid but, once out at the pool, the new song in our head had us frugging & boogalooing & swimming in AND out of the pool. Decidedly unHilton behavior in 1980. They were on us like lifeguards and desucsitated our buzz completely with their threats before tossing us out on our flippers. But, boy do i have a memory pillow for this song every time i hear it...

 
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Dr. Octopus said:
Yes - and the stage being in the Ocean is/was a huge plus. 

I did not see a ton of shows there (and have not been there is a real long time despite still being somewhat local) but all of the ones I did were very memorable.
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incredible venue ... best summer spot imaginable.

that being said, wish i remembered more from those shows i did catch - too much blow & booze - i was in attendance, sure ... but i'll be gotdamned if i took away any more than 3 solid memories (Adam Ant's entrance being one, but don't ask me 'bout the show or actual setlist).

 
Re go-gos...loved that first album when it came out. We got the beat and our lips are sealed led the way for me. But I haven't listened to it in years- no idea how well it holds up. And I get rock's comments...they got so big and pop/bubblegum, it's easy to forget their quality.

Rock lobster...no way it wouldn't be on Tim's or any list of this type- iconic. Again, I have other preferred songs, but I think likely because the song was overplayed to my ears.

 
RedmondLonghorn said:
The thing I liked about Rock Lobster was that it actually did rock. The...I don’t know what to call it...part that starts around the time one of the ladies (Kate?) shrieks has a maniacal energy that is pretty unique.
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that part would be called the bridge. And, yes, it does freakin' rock. Such amazing energy in this classic, iconic song as well as their other song about the place where you grow potatoes. both top 100 for sure.

 
joey said:
that part would be called the bridge. And, yes, it does freakin' rock. Such amazing energy in this classic, iconic song as well as their other song about the place where you grow potatoes. both top 100 for sure.
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I thought that might be what it is called, but I don’t know anything technical about music.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
I think what I'm hearing is that you think they're better musicians than they're given credit for. That they're more than their image. I would definitely agree with that.
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Very strong rhythm section, in particular. The drummer Gina Schock and, to a lesser extent, bass player Kathy Valentine were often widely praised for their skills.

 
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Osaurus said:
Yay. Big fan of Squeeze. Underrated imo as I’ve probably already posted. They’re still a great live band. Wish Jools would do some gigs with them, but the young gun keyboardist they have now is pretty good. 
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Saw Squeeze and Hall and Oates Friday night. Squeeze crushed it - as you say, they're still a great live band. Tilbrook's and Difford's voices sound as good as ever and, man, can Tilbrook shred on guitar. Unfortunately, he never got his due for his axe work because they were never a guitar-heavy band. The backup musicians were great, too.

FWIW, Hall and Oates were kind of meh. Great backup band, but at age 73, Darryl just can't hit those notes any more. :(  Oates, well, still has a nice mustache. 

 
zamboni said:
Saw Squeeze and Hall and Oates Friday night. Squeeze crushed it - as you say, they're still a great live band. Tilbrook's and Difford's voices sound as good as ever and, man, can Tilbrook shred on guitar. Unfortunately, he never got his due for his axe work because they were never a guitar-heavy band. The backup musicians were great, too.

FWIW, Hall and Oates were kind of meh. Great backup band, but at age 73, Darryl just can't hit those notes any more. :(  Oates, well, still has a nice mustache. 
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The bassist is quite good. She rocks!

 
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