The 100 Greatest movies of the 80s #1 Aliens (4 Viewers)

[Brunell4MVP]

Rickman needed more air time in Die Hard. He's a great villain. They spent too much time on Bruce.

 

[Todem]

I like Die Hard…..but not even in my top 25 for the 80’s.

High quality action yarn for sure. Die Hard Part 2 might even be better….that’s debatable.

But not this high. It’s all subjective.

Do The Right Thing not even in my top 50…..again all subjective.

 

[General Malaise]

Yeah, I think Die Hard 2 is better than Die Hard. I don't think that's too crazy of a take.

 

[General Malaise]

Roger Ebert gave Die Hard a thumbs down but LOVED Die Hard 2, Die Harder.

 

[Gr00vus]

The bad guys in Die Hard 2 don't hold a candle to the bad guys in the original for starters. So no, Die Hard 2 is not better than the original.

Watched both over the holidays with the 15 year old as Christmas movies - he liked the original quite a bit.

 

[B Maverick]

I think my favorite part is now the exchange between Hans and Ellis:

"You're amazing. You've figured this all out already."

I think the Hans v Holly Gennero one is good too:

Holly Gennero: I have a request.
Hans Gruber: What idiot put you in charge?
Holly Gennero: You did.
[Hans looks at her]
Holly Gennero: When you murdered my boss. Now everybody's looking to me. Personally, I'd pass on the job. I don't enjoy being this close to you.
[long pause]
Hans Gruber : Go on.

 

[Gally]

I think my favorite part is now the exchange between Hans and Ellis:

"You're amazing. You've figured this all out already."

I think the Hans v Holly Gennero one is good too:

Holly Gennero: I have a request.
Hans Gruber: What idiot put you in charge?
Holly Gennero: You did.
[Hans looks at her]
Holly Gennero: When you murdered my boss. Now everybody's looking to me. Personally, I'd pass on the job. I don't enjoy being this close to you.
[long pause]
Hans Gruber : Go on.

So many of these interchanges with Gruber that were awesome. Totally changed the way villain's are portrayed. Should have been the #1 villian on the movie draft awhile back. We got screwed.

 

[B Maverick]

The bad guys in Die Hard 2 don't hold a candle to the bad guys in the original for starters. So no, Die Hard 2 is not better than the original.

Watched both over the holidays with the 15 year old as Christmas movies - he liked the original quite a bit.

I enjoyed Die Harder but agree its not as good. Better than "A Good Day to Die Hard" though.

My Ranking:
Die Hard, Die Hard With a Vengeance, Live Free or Die Hard, Die Hard 2: Die Harder, A Good Day to Die Hard

 

[General Malaise]

The bad guys in Die Hard 2 don't hold a candle to the bad guys in the original for starters. So no, Die Hard 2 is not better than the original.

Watched both over the holidays with the 15 year old as Christmas movies - he liked the original quite a bit.

Roger Ebert and I disagree with you.

 

[El Floppo]

Die Hard is just about perfect. Rickman takes it to another level.

But yeah, Id still have it a bit lower.

 

[El Floppo]

DTRT... Great movie. Beautifully filmed and telling the story/idea that needed telling at the time. Spikes movies are themes more than stories though, and while there are a massive amount of fun characters here (and in his other movies) I feel like they're there more to support the theme than inhabit the movie in a Fully fleshed way. So for me, this- as good as it is- is held back some.

 

[BlackCrowes]

The bad guys in Die Hard 2 don't hold a candle to the bad guys in the original for starters. So no, Die Hard 2 is not better than the original.

Watched both over the holidays with the 15 year old as Christmas movies - he liked the original quite a bit.

Roger Ebert and I disagree with you.

sometimes people are wrong

 

[Leroy Hoard]

And it's a Christmas movie. I dressed up as McClane for a Christmas costume party once. It was the only time I've worn a costume as an adult.

Best Christmas movie for me mainly because I hate most Christmas movies.

 

[Manster]

The bad guys in Die Hard 2 don't hold a candle to the bad guys in the original for starters. So no, Die Hard 2 is not better than the original.

Watched both over the holidays with the 15 year old as Christmas movies - he liked the original quite a bit.

We watch Die Hard every Christmas. It's the perfect Bruce Willis flick, which puts high up as the perfect 80's flick. Love the banter between McClane and Argyle with a cassette of Christmas in Hollis(one of my favorite Christmas songs) playing. Great opening scene!

 

[General Malaise]

The bad guys in Die Hard 2 don't hold a candle to the bad guys in the original for starters. So no, Die Hard 2 is not better than the original.

Watched both over the holidays with the 15 year old as Christmas movies - he liked the original quite a bit.

Roger Ebert and I disagree with you.

sometimes people are wrong

Sure, that's not what's happening here, though.

 

[El Floppo]

I saw it, but no memory of Die Hard 2. Is that the one at an airport? If so.. not good. Strange to me to hear people even compare the two, let alone out it over DH1

 

[General Malaise]

Yeah, really bizarre comparing a sequel to the original.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Is that the one at an airport?

Yes, with Sipowitz as his sidekick.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The level of drop-off from DH1 to DH2 is almost as bad as from Raiders of the Lost Ark to Temple of Doom.

There is no reason to watch either of those sequels. None.

 

[General Malaise]

Well, Todem, Roger Ebert and me all liked Die Hard 2 better than Die Hard so stick that in your pipes and smoke it, browrongmans.

 

[Gally]

The level of drop-off from DH1 to DH2 is almost as bad as from Raiders of the Lost Ark to Temple of Doom.

There is no reason to watch either of those sequels. None.

Come on. Give Short Round a break....

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The level of drop-off from DH1 to DH2 is almost as bad as from Raiders of the Lost Ark to Temple of Doom.

There is no reason to watch either of those sequels. None.

Come on. Give Short Round a break....

NONE!

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The level of drop-off from DH1 to DH2 is almost as bad as from Raiders of the Lost Ark to Temple of Doom.

There is no reason to watch either of those sequels. None.

Come on. Give Short Round a break....

Take Kate Capshaw out of the it and it would be a better movie.

 

[Gally]

The level of drop-off from DH1 to DH2 is almost as bad as from Raiders of the Lost Ark to Temple of Doom.

There is no reason to watch either of those sequels. None.

Come on. Give Short Round a break....

Take Kate Capshaw out of the it and it would be a better movie.

You call him DR JONES.....DOLL!

 

[El Floppo]

Yeah, really bizarre comparing a sequel to the original.

Whoa, brother. Relative quality/ranking comparison... What people have been doing by saying 2 is better than 1. Seems like you missed that point?

 

[Todem]

The level of drop-off from DH1 to DH2 is almost as bad as from Raiders of the Lost Ark to Temple of Doom.

There is no reason to watch either of those sequels. None.

Come on. Give Short Round a break....

You call him Doctor Jones!!!!

Love Shortround.

 

[Todem]

The level of drop-off from DH1 to DH2 is almost as bad as from Raiders of the Lost Ark to Temple of Doom.

There is no reason to watch either of those sequels. None.

Come on. Give Short Round a break....

Take Kate Capshaw out of the it and it would be a better movie.

She suuuuuuucked (Speilbergs ****)

 

[General Malaise]

Yeah, really bizarre comparing a sequel to the original.

Whoa, brother. Relative quality/ranking comparison... What people have been doing by saying 2 is better than 1. Seems like you missed that point?

Dude, your words:

"Strange to me to hear people even compare the two, let alone out it over DH1".

Why is it strange for people to compare a sequel to the original?

 

[B Maverick]

The level of drop-off from DH1 to DH2 is almost as bad as from Raiders of the Lost Ark to Temple of Doom.

There is no reason to watch either of those sequels. None.

Good thing Temple of Doom is a prequel, long before prequels were a thing.

 

[timschochet]

5. Raging Bull (1980)

Directed by: Martin Scorsese

Starring: Robert DeNiro, Joe Pesci, Cathy Moriarty

Synopsis: The sad and tragic life of middleweight boxing champion Jake LaMotta

And though I’m no Olivier, if he fought Sugar Ray he’ would say, that the thing ain’t the ring it’s the play - Robert DeNiro as Jake LaMotta

Perhaps the most extraordinary acting I have ever seen in a movie. This probably remains Robert DeNiro’s finest moment. It is Martin Scorcese’s second finest film IMO (I like Goodfellas slightly better) but I wouldn’t argue the point. Both Pesci and Moriarty were unknowns prior to this movie and they are both amazing as well.
A lot of folks regard this as the greatest sports movie of all time but I’m not sure because the boxing is almost a sideshow to the main theme of a man’s obsession, jealousy and downfall. The scene at the end which includes the quote I chose (for which DeNiro famously gained all that weight) might be the saddest moment in a film I can ever remember; it’s almost too painful to watch.

 

[El Floppo]

Yeah, really bizarre comparing a sequel to the original.

Whoa, brother. Relative quality/ranking comparison... What people have been doing by saying 2 is better than 1. Seems like you missed that point?

Dude, your words:

"Strange to me to hear people even compare the two, let alone out it over DH1".

Why is it strange for people to compare a sequel to the original?

sigh. so yes, the point wasn't clear enough for you. or you really love part 2 and are offended. or you're in a mood to argue semantics. or all of the above. party on, gm.

 

[General Malaise]

Yeah, really bizarre comparing a sequel to the original.

Whoa, brother. Relative quality/ranking comparison... What people have been doing by saying 2 is better than 1. Seems like you missed that point?

Dude, your words:

"Strange to me to hear people even compare the two, let alone out it over DH1".

Why is it strange for people to compare a sequel to the original?

sigh. so yes, the point wasn't clear enough for you. or you really love part 2 and are offended. or you're in a mood to argue semantics. or all of the above. party on, gm.

Then make your point crystal clear so I can understand it. No need to be pompous.

Yes, I think DH2 is better than DH. It's a subjective opinion shared by others.

You made the statement that comparing the 2 movies was strange which I found bizarre.

And here we are. Sigh!

 

[El Floppo]

Raging Bull is amazing.

 

[El Floppo]

Yeah, really bizarre comparing a sequel to the original.

Whoa, brother. Relative quality/ranking comparison... What people have been doing by saying 2 is better than 1. Seems like you missed that point?

Dude, your words:

"Strange to me to hear people even compare the two, let alone out it over DH1".

Why is it strange for people to compare a sequel to the original?

sigh. so yes, the point wasn't clear enough for you. or you really love part 2 and are offended. or you're in a mood to argue semantics. or all of the above. party on, gm.

Then make your point crystal clear so I can understand it. No need to be pompous.

Yes, I think DH2 is better than DH. It's a subjective opinion shared by others.

You made the statement that comparing the 2 movies was strange which I found bizarre.

And here we are. Sigh!

party on. [/pompously]

 

[Pip's Invitation]

5. Raging Bull (1980)

Directed by: Martin Scorsese

Starring: Robert DeNiro, Joe Pesci, Cathy Moriarty

Synopsis: The sad and tragic life of middleweight boxing champion Jake LaMotta

And though I’m no Olivier, if he fought Sugar Ray he’ would say, that the thing ain’t the ring it’s the play - Robert DeNiro as Jake LaMotta

Perhaps the most extraordinary acting I have ever seen in a movie. This probably remains Robert DeNiro’s finest moment. It is Martin Scorcese’s second finest film IMO (I like Goodfellas slightly better) but I wouldn’t argue the point. Both Pesci and Moriarty were unknowns prior to this movie and they are both amazing as well.
A lot of folks regard this as the greatest sports movie of all time but I’m not sure because the boxing is almost a sideshow to the main theme of a man’s obsession, jealousy and downfall. The scene at the end which includes the quote I chose (for which DeNiro famously gained all that weight) might be the saddest moment in a film I can ever remember; it’s almost too painful to watch.

Brilliant. It's a sports movie that isn't a "sports movie." It's a character study of someone who happens to play a sport.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Not a Scorsese movie fan. The cinematography for the fight scenes is interesting, but I found the movie to be disapppointing. I didn't learn a thing about LaMotta, probably because he didn't learn anything about himself. I could have done that in ten minutes.

 

[Psychopav]

5. Raging Bull (1980)

Directed by: Martin Scorsese

Starring: Robert DeNiro, Joe Pesci, Cathy Moriarty

Synopsis: The sad and tragic life of middleweight boxing champion Jake LaMotta

And though I’m no Olivier, if he fought Sugar Ray he’ would say, that the thing ain’t the ring it’s the play - Robert DeNiro as Jake LaMotta

Perhaps the most extraordinary acting I have ever seen in a movie. This probably remains Robert DeNiro’s finest moment. It is Martin Scorcese’s second finest film IMO (I like Goodfellas slightly better) but I wouldn’t argue the point. Both Pesci and Moriarty were unknowns prior to this movie and they are both amazing as well.
A lot of folks regard this as the greatest sports movie of all time but I’m not sure because the boxing is almost a sideshow to the main theme of a man’s obsession, jealousy and downfall. The scene at the end which includes the quote I chose (for which DeNiro famously gained all that weight) might be the saddest moment in a film I can ever remember; it’s almost too painful to watch.

Not an 80's movie.

 

[Ilov80s]

Wait people really like Die Hard 2 over the original? That is so silly

Not mad about it or saying anyone is wrong. You can't be wrong about what you like. It's just silly.

 

[General Malaise]

Wait people really like Die Hard 2 over the original? That is so silly

Yes. Not sure why Todem is escaping the pompous shrapnel for having the same opinion as me and the greatest movie critic of our generation in Roger Ebert. Just the facts, man.

 

[Ilov80s]

Not a Scorsese movie fan. The cinematography for the fight scenes is interesting, but I found the movie to be disapppointing. I didn't learn a thing about LaMotta, probably because he didn't learn anything about himself. I could have done that in ten minutes.

I appreciate it more than like it. I think I rated in the 30s when KP and I did our 80s movie list. Even today, I think I would drop it a bit more.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Not a Scorsese movie fan. The cinematography for the fight scenes is interesting, but I found the movie to be disapppointing. I didn't learn a thing about LaMotta, probably because he didn't learn anything about himself. I could have done that in ten minutes.

I appreciate it more than like it. I think I rated in the 30s when KP and I did our 80s movie list. Even today, I think I would drop it a bit more.

It didn't do that well in the TimDraft where I rated movie performances about real people.

 

[UncleZen]

Michael McKean has one of the more interesting career arcs. From Lenny on Laverne & Shirley to Spinal Tap to playing Saul's brother Chuck on Better Call Saul.

Also briefly played with the '60s band Left Banke. Played guitar on this song

Also played in the band "the Barbusters" in Light of Day. He played bass in that band.

The movie with Michael J Fox and Joan Jett as brother and sister?

Yes.

 

[UncleZen]

I think my favorite part is now the exchange between Hans and Ellis:

"You're amazing. You've figured this all out already."

I think the Hans v Holly Gennero one is good too:

Holly Gennero: I have a request.
Hans Gruber: What idiot put you in charge?
Holly Gennero: You did.
[Hans looks at her]
Holly Gennero: When you murdered my boss. Now everybody's looking to me. Personally, I'd pass on the job. I don't enjoy being this close to you.
[long pause]
Hans Gruber : Go on.

So many of these interchanges with Gruber that were awesome. Totally changed the way villain's are portrayed. Should have been the #1 villian on the movie draft awhile back. We got screwed.

I never saw the villain draft but hopefully Darth Vader won. The Sith lord was the best villain ever. How many others have action figures and costumes and many other items on the market for them?

 

[Gr00vus]

I think my favorite part is now the exchange between Hans and Ellis:

"You're amazing. You've figured this all out already."

I think the Hans v Holly Gennero one is good too:

Holly Gennero: I have a request.
Hans Gruber: What idiot put you in charge?
Holly Gennero: You did.
[Hans looks at her]
Holly Gennero: When you murdered my boss. Now everybody's looking to me. Personally, I'd pass on the job. I don't enjoy being this close to you.
[long pause]
Hans Gruber : Go on.

So many of these interchanges with Gruber that were awesome. Totally changed the way villain's are portrayed. Should have been the #1 villian on the movie draft awhile back. We got screwed.

I never saw the villain draft but hopefully Darth Vader won. The Sith lord was the best villain ever. How many others have action figures and costumes and many other items on the market for them?

Well, Hans has the action figures covered. As for costumes - I put on my business suit and bad guy beard...

 

[northern exposure]

Yeah, really bizarre comparing a sequel to the original.

Whoa, brother. Relative quality/ranking comparison... What people have been doing by saying 2 is better than 1. Seems like you missed that point?

Dude, your words:

"Strange to me to hear people even compare the two, let alone out it over DH1".

Why is it strange for people to compare a sequel to the original?

sigh. so yes, the point wasn't clear enough for you. or you really love part 2 and are offended. or you're in a mood to argue semantics. or all of the above. party on, gm.

Then make your point crystal clear so I can understand it. No need to be pompous.

Yes, I think DH2 is better than DH. It's a subjective opinion shared by others.

You made the statement that comparing the 2 movies was strange which I found bizarre.

And here we are. Sigh!

party on. [/pompously]

Guys, can't we all just get along? Everyone knows the best movie in The Die Hard franchise is "A Good Day to Die Hard", right?











/jk

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Yeah, really bizarre comparing a sequel to the original.

Whoa, brother. Relative quality/ranking comparison... What people have been doing by saying 2 is better than 1. Seems like you missed that point?

Dude, your words:

"Strange to me to hear people even compare the two, let alone out it over DH1".

Why is it strange for people to compare a sequel to the original?

sigh. so yes, the point wasn't clear enough for you. or you really love part 2 and are offended. or you're in a mood to argue semantics. or all of the above. party on, gm.

Then make your point crystal clear so I can understand it. No need to be pompous.

Yes, I think DH2 is better than DH. It's a subjective opinion shared by others.

You made the statement that comparing the 2 movies was strange which I found bizarre.

And here we are. Sigh!

party on. [/pompously]

Guys, can't we all just get along? Everyone knows the best movie in The Die Hard franchise is "A Good Day to Die Hard", right?
/jk

Q: I need something to guarantee my movie will fail... Suggestions?

A: Cast Jai Courtney.

 

[northern exposure]

Rickman needed more air time in Die Hard. He's a great villain. They spent too much time on Bruce.

Rickman was also a great villain in the Robin Hood film with Kevin Costner.

 

[northern exposure]

5. Raging Bull (1980)

Directed by: Martin Scorsese

Starring: Robert DeNiro, Joe Pesci, Cathy Moriarty

Synopsis: The sad and tragic life of middleweight boxing champion Jake LaMotta

And though I’m no Olivier, if he fought Sugar Ray he’ would say, that the thing ain’t the ring it’s the play - Robert DeNiro as Jake LaMotta

Perhaps the most extraordinary acting I have ever seen in a movie. This probably remains Robert DeNiro’s finest moment. It is Martin Scorcese’s second finest film IMO (I like Goodfellas slightly better) but I wouldn’t argue the point. Both Pesci and Moriarty were unknowns prior to this movie and they are both amazing as well.
A lot of folks regard this as the greatest sports movie of all time but I’m not sure because the boxing is almost a sideshow to the main theme of a man’s obsession, jealousy and downfall. The scene at the end which includes the quote I chose (for which DeNiro famously gained all that weight) might be the saddest moment in a film I can ever remember; it’s almost too painful to watch.

I was a big boxing fan around the time Raging Bull came out and didn't know older fighters like LaMotta. He was a beast and pulverized the opponent his wife said was good looking. I thought it was a great movie.
Speaking of his wife, Vikki, I remember she gained fame from the film and appeared at age 51 in a certain men's magazine.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Rickman needed more air time in Die Hard. He's a great villain. They spent too much time on Bruce.

Rickman was also a great villain in the Robin Hood film with Kevin Costner.

Sure, but you'd also be subjected to Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves to find that out.

 

[northern exposure]

Rickman needed more air time in Die Hard. He's a great villain. They spent too much time on Bruce.

Rickman was also a great villain in the Robin Hood film with Kevin Costner.

Sure, but you'd also be subjected to Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves to find that out.

True.