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Then you'd be wrong, this is the consensus.
So what is the truth?
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That has never been true. I have an opinion based on a lot of experience, I simply back what that experience has taught me. I don't try to agitate anyone, so cool that silliness.
ZenoRazon said:
Stop acting as if I'm the only one thinking NFL players make too much $$$$$. You are in the minority, not me, most people agree with me.
People thinking things doesn't make those things reality. People are wrong about a lot of things, in every era. By your logic the majority of the western world at one point believing that the sun was being pulled across the sky by a god driving a chariot made them correct--because almost everyone believed it. That logic doesn't hold, sorry. The masses believe a lot of dumb things. Me included I'm sure.
I know a lot of people who get the NFL, most see it differently than you do. I also see it differently than you do.
I get that. But they could still offer them the base salary they paid everyone. I mean, something is better than nothing.
I was telling you how in my opinion that was the only way the business will work long term. Just because the AAF's business plan revolved solely around getting bought out by the NFL or selling their technology doesn't mean the XFL has the same plan. It's hard to imagine how the AAF got off the ground in the first place seeing they had to bring in Dundon to bail them out in the middle of their first season. The XFL may fail again, but at least McMahon has his first failure to hopefully learn from. He also has the resources to bank roll a startup and is reportedly willing to spend $500 million in the first three years.
They were also strongly affiliated with the NFL who probably didn’t like the idea of that.
Were they affiliated with the NFL? Serious question. Seems odd that the NFL wouldn't want them to succeed if they were affiliated with them.
Let me fill you in...it WON'T EVER HAPPEN. As @[scooter] mentioned, no kid is going to skip a (relatively) free ride to college to be one of Vince McMahon's employees in a start-up when he can wait 3-4 years to pull the serious money on the NFL can provide.LAUNCH said:It may happen, but I imagine that if players like Trevor Lawrence or Tua decided to play when the XFL starts I would be willing to bet you whatever you'd like that people would be lining up to get their autographs, even if it's just for a bag of Funions....I assume Nike is just paying Odell Beckham all that money because they like to hang out with him.
True, but he can go to the NFL after the XFL. The XFL would just be a place to play instead of college. Put two years in for the XFL while cashing a pay check, then declare for the NFL draft. I'm pretty sure that's how McMahon is selling it. He's not thinking he'll steal talent from the NFL pool. He's counting on players deciding to play for the XFL instead of college.
This is true, but the product was crap. The AAF was a decent product with no promotion and did much better numbers in the ratings than XFL 1.0.
But why would you? To get $75-100k from VKM and risk injury that dooms your NFL chances? I'm not buying it. Could it happen? Probably, but I'd bet against it.
Are you not risking injury in college? Did I miss the part where college football was injury free?
A better product. That was kind of my point. The AAF had good numbers in TV and had ZERO promotion. If it's on ESPN and FOX, they will promote it because they have a desire to make it succeed. ESPN will want the XFL to succeed, therefore do more to make that happen. People love to say that no one will watch inferior football, but college football is a multi-billion dollar industry. And while I'm not saying the XFL will be anywhere near that, the demand to watch sub-NFL level football is there.
Let me fill you in...they aren't competing. The NFL stands to gain if the XFL succeeds. For all their money, they just didn't want to sink a bunch of money themselves to make a feeder league work again. Assuming they allow players out of high school to come in and play, they are competing against college coaches for talent. To say that no one would make the jump is naive at best. If the money is right people will go. If in 2020 Vince offers Trevor Lawrence $5,000,000 (Or whatever the magic number is/ or whatever player has that kind of marquee name) for one year in the XFL, can anyone say there is no way they'd leave?
A better product...how? Because there are whatever 53 X 32 equals, the best available player is (53 X 32) +1. Why would I expect passable (no pun intended) football from guys who can't make a roster in the NFL? You'll have a hard time convincing me that a high school kid is going to pass up college to hone his skills to get killed in the WWXFL for peanuts what he could make?
Except the NFL is the standard for players, not the XFL. The XFL talent pool is going to be exactly the same as any other minor league football team - NFL rejects and wannabees.
You keep saying "pass up college to play in the XFL" like that means something. Let's try to break this down to simpler terms.
Hence feeder system...and I just gave you a scenario where the talent pool wouldn't be the same as as any other minor league football team....
If you're injured in college, then you've got access to top-notch rehab facilities. If you're injured in the AAF or XFL, you have access to nothing.Are you not risking injury in college? Did I miss the part where college football was injury free?
I think you're assuming a lot here for Player B. And again, it doesn't mean everyone will choose the XFL over college. But we see kids in basketball leave college all of the time to go play in the G League. Or Europe. Why would this be any different?
Partly because the risk of injury is lower, but mainly because those players have hundreds of foreign options if the G League falls through.
The need and desire to make money will lure people to the XFL. Not everyone. But enough people. They don't need everyone to forgo college. Just a couple. A million dollars is hard to turn down when your bank account says zero.
All young people need college, a degree means everything, football doesn't last forever.
you must be a bot composed entirely to have the same takes as a 55 year old white guy. What parent gives this advice?
When the argument is "well, a kid could forgo college for the XFL", you're saying he goes straight from high school to being a professional. Alright, is there a draft for HS kids or is this a free-for-all? Secondly, these kids that are proverbially going from HS to the XFL STILL wouldn't be allowed in the NFL, so how good are they going to be? Most of these kids are filling out in that college-age timeframe; heck, baseball players drafted out of high school are considered lower (but with a bigger potential upside) than a college kid.
I think the rule states that as long as you are 3 years removed from your high school graduation, you can enter the NFL. Here is what wiki says (I don't know if this is exact or not but sounds about right)
a lot of parents of aspiring pros every year give this advice for the sports of soccer, baseball and hockey.
I understand that. But the point still remains the same. Plenty of parents make this same decision for other sports (college vs a minor league type league).
Try 70 and you're exactly right.
