I actually have a 90 minute padding for this show. Shouldn't need that much for this spring season, but definitely comes in handy during football season.So I take it this show is often pushed late due to sports + 60 Minutes? DVR didn't record the last 10/12 minutes. And CBS' website player seems a bit changed from when I last used it (to watch Survivor), and it would not let me skip ahead to the end. I wouldn't have cared if it put all the commercials in (although that would be greedy) as long as they let you skip ahead. I know it sometimes works, because it did let me skip ahead part of a section, just not all the way to the part I missed.
I agreed with you until you compared them to the Afghanimals. I find nothing likable about the Afghanimals.I don't hate Luke and his mom nearly as much as the rest of you. I can't fault him for his handicap. Sure he's a little over the top, but his mom pretty much rocks. Nowhere near as annoying as the Twinnies, Bloggers or Brenchel. I put them in the same boat as the Afghanimals, who I find extremely annoying from time to time, but strangely likable.
I hated them the first half of last season, but they grew on me. Especially after they started calling the doctors on their hypocrisy.I agreed with you until you compared them to the Afghanimals. I find nothing likable about the Afghanimals.I don't hate Luke and his mom nearly as much as the rest of you. I can't fault him for his handicap. Sure he's a little over the top, but his mom pretty much rocks. Nowhere near as annoying as the Twinnies, Bloggers or Brenchel. I put them in the same boat as the Afghanimals, who I find extremely annoying from time to time, but strangely likable.
I don't think anyone hates him for being deaf. The dislike for him seems to be that if he can't get something on the first try, he breaks down and cries for mommy.I don't hate Luke and his mom nearly as much as the rest of you. I can't fault him for his handicap. Sure he's a little over the top, but his mom pretty much rocks. Nowhere near as annoying as the Twinnies, Bloggers or Brenchel. I put them in the same boat as the Afghanimals, who I find extremely annoying from time to time, but strangely likable.
Not a fan of Afghanimals either. They're not quite on the Twinnies/Youtubers level but they're close.I agreed with you until you compared them to the Afghanimals. I find nothing likable about the Afghanimals.I don't hate Luke and his mom nearly as much as the rest of you. I can't fault him for his handicap. Sure he's a little over the top, but his mom pretty much rocks. Nowhere near as annoying as the Twinnies, Bloggers or Brenchel. I put them in the same boat as the Afghanimals, who I find extremely annoying from time to time, but strangely likable.
Yeah, that's what I mean by "over the top" - but at the same time, if he didn't have his handicap, would his 'tantrum' be less obvious? I think so. I give him a little clearance for that. And again, his mom is awesome.I don't think anyone hates him for being deaf. The dislike for him seems to be that if he can't get something on the first try, he breaks down and cries for mommy.I don't hate Luke and his mom nearly as much as the rest of you. I can't fault him for his handicap. Sure he's a little over the top, but his mom pretty much rocks. Nowhere near as annoying as the Twinnies, Bloggers or Brenchel. I put them in the same boat as the Afghanimals, who I find extremely annoying from time to time, but strangely likable.
He really should have done that challenge.Yeah, that's what I mean by "over the top" - but at the same time, if he didn't have his handicap, would his 'tantrum' be less obvious? I think so. I give him a little clearance for that. And again, his mom is awesome.I don't think anyone hates him for being deaf. The dislike for him seems to be that if he can't get something on the first try, he breaks down and cries for mommy.I don't hate Luke and his mom nearly as much as the rest of you. I can't fault him for his handicap. Sure he's a little over the top, but his mom pretty much rocks. Nowhere near as annoying as the Twinnies, Bloggers or Brenchel. I put them in the same boat as the Afghanimals, who I find extremely annoying from time to time, but strangely likable.
I don't think so. Pretty sure we've ragged on hearing enabled racers before for doing the same thing.Yeah, that's what I mean by "over the top" - but at the same time, if he didn't have his handicap, would his 'tantrum' be less obvious? I think so. I give him a little clearance for that. And again, his mom is awesome.I don't think anyone hates him for being deaf. The dislike for him seems to be that if he can't get something on the first try, he breaks down and cries for mommy.I don't hate Luke and his mom nearly as much as the rest of you. I can't fault him for his handicap. Sure he's a little over the top, but his mom pretty much rocks. Nowhere near as annoying as the Twinnies, Bloggers or Brenchel. I put them in the same boat as the Afghanimals, who I find extremely annoying from time to time, but strangely likable.
That's the only thing I can think of. Part of me wonders if Bopper knew that it might be a problem so AR planned ahead and brought another team just in case.How did they get that chick from Kentucky to replace Bopper so quickly? Do they keep an extra team on standby just in case something like this happens?
(by the way, how funny was it that Phil is in the room with the doctor, when the dude is finds out he has 2 months to live?)
I believe both Amazing Race and Survivor have additional players on standby at the start of each season. The potential impact of not having a team ready is huge... expensive delays and possibly missing the airdates. IIRC, same thing happened at the start of the last season of Survivor, where Candace and her husband were last-minute additions to the cast, which led to her being voted out first since none of the other returning players knew her that well.That's the only thing I can think of. Part of me wonders if Bopper knew that it might be a problem so AR planned ahead and brought another team just in case.How did they get that chick from Kentucky to replace Bopper so quickly? Do they keep an extra team on standby just in case something like this happens?
(by the way, how funny was it that Phil is in the room with the doctor, when the dude is finds out he has 2 months to live?)
That's interesting, that some teams keep racing after being philiminated. I didn't know that.Sarnoff said:I believe both Amazing Race and Survivor have additional players on standby at the start of each season. The potential impact of not having a team ready is huge... expensive delays and possibly missing the airdates. IIRC, same thing happened at the start of the last season of Survivor, where Candace and her husband were last-minute additions to the cast, which led to her being voted out first since none of the other returning players knew her that well.Rayderr said:That's the only thing I can think of. Part of me wonders if Bopper knew that it might be a problem so AR planned ahead and brought another team just in case.Fennis said:How did they get that chick from Kentucky to replace Bopper so quickly? Do they keep an extra team on standby just in case something like this happens?
(by the way, how funny was it that Phil is in the room with the doctor, when the dude is finds out he has 2 months to live?)
Amazing Race also keeps racing the eliminated teams toward the end of the season. Although we only see the "final 3" competing for the prize in the last episode, the previous 2 or 3 eliminated teams keep racing on a 12 hour offset (at least one team 12 hours ahead, one 12 hours behind) to throw off anyone who might see a camera crew in an airport and post spoilers before they're even done filming.
I've always wondered how much of the roadblocks/detours they make the eliminated teams do. Honestly, if I was eliminated and had to keep on racing, and then got the task of "carry a dead cow to booth in a crowded market 5 miles away" I would just say "#### it." and move on.That's interesting, that some teams keep racing after being philiminated. I didn't know that.Sarnoff said:I believe both Amazing Race and Survivor have additional players on standby at the start of each season. The potential impact of not having a team ready is huge... expensive delays and possibly missing the airdates. IIRC, same thing happened at the start of the last season of Survivor, where Candace and her husband were last-minute additions to the cast, which led to her being voted out first since none of the other returning players knew her that well.Rayderr said:That's the only thing I can think of. Part of me wonders if Bopper knew that it might be a problem so AR planned ahead and brought another team just in case.Fennis said:How did they get that chick from Kentucky to replace Bopper so quickly? Do they keep an extra team on standby just in case something like this happens?
(by the way, how funny was it that Phil is in the room with the doctor, when the dude is finds out he has 2 months to live?)
Amazing Race also keeps racing the eliminated teams toward the end of the season. Although we only see the "final 3" competing for the prize in the last episode, the previous 2 or 3 eliminated teams keep racing on a 12 hour offset (at least one team 12 hours ahead, one 12 hours behind) to throw off anyone who might see a camera crew in an airport and post spoilers before they're even done filming.
I've always wondered how much of the roadblocks/detours they make the eliminated teams do. Honestly, if I was eliminated and had to keep on racing, and then got the task of "carry a dead cow to booth in a crowded market 5 miles away" I would just say "#### it." and move on.That's interesting, that some teams keep racing after being philiminated. I didn't know that.Sarnoff said:I believe both Amazing Race and Survivor have additional players on standby at the start of each season. The potential impact of not having a team ready is huge... expensive delays and possibly missing the airdates. IIRC, same thing happened at the start of the last season of Survivor, where Candace and her husband were last-minute additions to the cast, which led to her being voted out first since none of the other returning players knew her that well.Rayderr said:That's the only thing I can think of. Part of me wonders if Bopper knew that it might be a problem so AR planned ahead and brought another team just in case.Fennis said:How did they get that chick from Kentucky to replace Bopper so quickly? Do they keep an extra team on standby just in case something like this happens?
(by the way, how funny was it that Phil is in the room with the doctor, when the dude is finds out he has 2 months to live?)
Amazing Race also keeps racing the eliminated teams toward the end of the season. Although we only see the "final 3" competing for the prize in the last episode, the previous 2 or 3 eliminated teams keep racing on a 12 hour offset (at least one team 12 hours ahead, one 12 hours behind) to throw off anyone who might see a camera crew in an airport and post spoilers before they're even done filming.
Yeah, unless the roadblock/detour was "sit at a local bar and drink a bunch of beer" then I would be taking an awful lot of skip-the-task penalties if they made me do them when I was eliminated. I might do some of the cool zipline, hang gliding, etc. sort of task.I've always wondered how much of the roadblocks/detours they make the eliminated teams do. Honestly, if I was eliminated and had to keep on racing, and then got the task of "carry a dead cow to booth in a crowded market 5 miles away" I would just say "#### it." and move on.That's interesting, that some teams keep racing after being philiminated. I didn't know that.Sarnoff said:I believe both Amazing Race and Survivor have additional players on standby at the start of each season. The potential impact of not having a team ready is huge... expensive delays and possibly missing the airdates. IIRC, same thing happened at the start of the last season of Survivor, where Candace and her husband were last-minute additions to the cast, which led to her being voted out first since none of the other returning players knew her that well.Rayderr said:That's the only thing I can think of. Part of me wonders if Bopper knew that it might be a problem so AR planned ahead and brought another team just in case.Fennis said:How did they get that chick from Kentucky to replace Bopper so quickly? Do they keep an extra team on standby just in case something like this happens?
(by the way, how funny was it that Phil is in the room with the doctor, when the dude is finds out he has 2 months to live?)
Amazing Race also keeps racing the eliminated teams toward the end of the season. Although we only see the "final 3" competing for the prize in the last episode, the previous 2 or 3 eliminated teams keep racing on a 12 hour offset (at least one team 12 hours ahead, one 12 hours behind) to throw off anyone who might see a camera crew in an airport and post spoilers before they're even done filming.
I think they really loaded up on annoying teams for this round.I don't hate Luke and his mom nearly as much as the rest of you. I can't fault him for his handicap. Sure he's a little over the top, but his mom pretty much rocks. Nowhere near as annoying as the Twinnies, Bloggers or Brenchel. I put them in the same boat as the Afghanimals, who I find extremely annoying from time to time, but strangely likable.
You never watched Big Brother?It wasn't until watching the episode that I really knew who some of the teams were, and I forgot how annoying some of them are. Am thrilled about the Twinnies being gone.
I'd be happy if any of the following won: Connor/Dad (achilles heel), Leo and Jamal (I like them for some reason), Cowboys, Globetrotters
I'd be happy if I never saw any of the following again: Mother/Deaf Son, Youtubers,Twinnies
I don't really care one way or the other: Country Singers, Mark/Mallory (though she went to my alma mater so I should probably cheer her on), Mark and Mallory, Brenchel (I must have missed their first season because I've never heard of them, but if they named themselves "Brenchel", I want to punch them both in the neck).
What?Fennis said:How did they get that chick from Kentucky to replace Bopper so quickly? Do they keep an extra team on standby just in case something like this happens?
(by the way, how funny was it that Phil is in the room with the doctor, when the dude is finds out he has 2 months to live?)
Not YSR, but same here. Only ever watched a few episodes of the first season of Big Brother. Thought it was pretty bad, Benchel seems to confirm that opinion.You never watched Big Brother?It wasn't until watching the episode that I really knew who some of the teams were, and I forgot how annoying some of them are. Am thrilled about the Twinnies being gone.
I'd be happy if any of the following won: Connor/Dad (achilles heel), Leo and Jamal (I like them for some reason), Cowboys, Globetrotters
I'd be happy if I never saw any of the following again: Mother/Deaf Son, Youtubers,Twinnies
I don't really care one way or the other: Country Singers, Mark/Mallory (though she went to my alma mater so I should probably cheer her on), Mark and Mallory, Brenchel (I must have missed their first season because I've never heard of them, but if they named themselves "Brenchel", I want to punch them both in the neck).
Kind of my thoughts as well. If they end up in the snow he would have been screwed. The sad thing is that if Bopper had been with him and he said he needed to go back, rather than an argument he would have just gotten "ok buddy, let's do that then."While I get Mallory's viewpoint that going back for the backkpack would cost them the game (though had they been more skilled at hackeycock or perhaps did the other detour, they would've survived) there's almost always a leg that takes place in a cold weather climate. Not realistic for him to survive in cargo pants and a t-shirt.
I don't understand why they didn't go back as soon as they noticed the bag was missing.Kind of my thoughts as well. If they end up in the snow he would have been screwed. The sad thing is that if Bopper had been with him and he said he needed to go back, rather than an argument he would have just gotten "ok buddy, let's do that then."While I get Mallory's viewpoint that going back for the backkpack would cost them the game (though had they been more skilled at hackeycock or perhaps did the other detour, they would've survived) there's almost always a leg that takes place in a cold weather climate. Not realistic for him to survive in cargo pants and a t-shirt.
they couldn't go back after the leg check-in?Rayderr said:While I get Mallory's viewpoint that going back for the backkpack would cost them the game (though had they been more skilled at hackeycock or perhaps did the other detour, they would've survived) there's almost always a leg that takes place in a cold weather climate. Not realistic for him to survive in cargo pants and a t-shirt.
Pretty sure that this is not allowed.they couldn't go back after the leg check-in?Rayderr said:While I get Mallory's viewpoint that going back for the backkpack would cost them the game (though had they been more skilled at hackeycock or perhaps did the other detour, they would've survived) there's almost always a leg that takes place in a cold weather climate. Not realistic for him to survive in cargo pants and a t-shirt.
From what I've gather over the years, if a team drops their packs on the grounds of the pit stop to make that final dash, they can go get them. However, anything left beyond the grounds of the pit stop can not be retrieved. (One season, a player left their shoes at a roadblock and could not get them. He ended up buying new shoes at the airport.)I'd like to know the rule. I see teams all the time leaving their pack somewhere and racing to the finish line. Maybe it's best that team lost since they don't know each other and I was getting the feeling Mark wanted to wring her neck or something.
Good questions.Hope you vets don't mind some more noob questions - do the teams get a set amount of cash for each leg, or are they paying for taxis/etc. on their own dime? (My assumption is that there is some sort of "allowance" so each team has equal chances money-wise, but wasn't sure). Obviously the players are on their own as far as clothing/supplies beyond what is provided during the game. What about travel, like the plane tickets in the beginning episode, the tickets are paid for? I saw a part of a flashback about someone in an earlier season somehow getting on an earlier flight, that just by negotiating with the airlines, or can they alter their travel arrangements however they can in order to try to get an advantage?
Also, I noticed no one has a cell phone/GPS...are those not allowed or is it just that they don't work because they are in a different country? ( i can completely understand why they couldn't have their personal phones, but seems like a smartphone would be extraordinarily helpful. (Gamebreaking so?)
I was going to ask about what happens at the end of one leg before the start of another, but that was literally just answered last post (whisked away to a hotel/lodging until the next leg starts.)
Aerial Assualt is right about the allowance, each leg all teams are given a set amount in US dollars to get them started. The money can roll over from one leg to another, and teams can amass cash. Cash is used for taxis or other transportation or for whatever comes up during the game. If they get hungry during a layover at an airport, they'll have to use that cash to eat. Some legs they get $0 and must rely on whatever they've stockpiled. If they run out of cash, they can beg or negotiate lower fares. They cannot sell any belongings for money. They allowed it in the past, but after one team made it a habit once and started bringing items along to sell later, they've put a stop to it. Producers did not want to open the floodgates where well-off contestants would wear a Rolex or something and hope to trade it for a giant advantage near the finish line.Hope you vets don't mind some more noob questions - do the teams get a set amount of cash for each leg, or are they paying for taxis/etc. on their own dime? (My assumption is that there is some sort of "allowance" so each team has equal chances money-wise, but wasn't sure). Obviously the players are on their own as far as clothing/supplies beyond what is provided during the game. What about travel, like the plane tickets in the beginning episode, the tickets are paid for? I saw a part of a flashback about someone in an earlier season somehow getting on an earlier flight, that just by negotiating with the airlines, or can they alter their travel arrangements however they can in order to try to get an advantage?
Also, I noticed no one has a cell phone/GPS...are those not allowed or is it just that they don't work because they are in a different country? ( i can completely understand why they couldn't have their personal phones, but seems like a smartphone would be extraordinarily helpful. (Gamebreaking so?)
I was going to ask about what happens at the end of one leg before the start of another, but that was literally just answered last post (whisked away to a hotel/lodging until the next leg starts.)
They've had that happen before and those people always got what they needed. Sometimes they had to "work" for money, but they always got what they needed. They should have gone back right away if they were going to do it. The taxi driver would have known exactly where to go back to and the bag was there. Maybe they don't lose if they don't **** around.If a player can buy shoes at an airport, then Mark should be able to buy clothes. As much as the other racers love Mark, I think they would have found a way to get him a new backpack and clothes.
All contestants should locate their bags before leaving anywhere, so in that sense he should have checked and known. But, IMO, she was responsible for his bag until she turned over responsibility to him. You don't just drop a bag at someone's feet, it has to include verbal communication and acknowledgement.stbugs said:They've had that happen before and those people always got what they needed. Sometimes they had to "work" for money, but they always got what they needed. They should have gone back right away if they were going to do it. The taxi driver would have known exactly where to go back to and the bag was there. Maybe they don't lose if they don't **** around.EYLive said:If a player can buy shoes at an airport, then Mark should be able to buy clothes. As much as the other racers love Mark, I think they would have found a way to get him a new backpack and clothes.
That said, after watching it to the end last night (I came in during the middle while my son watched it) and watching the beginning, while it was Mallory's fault, she did bring the bag all the way out to where they were waiting for the taxi. She didn't leave it at the roadblock itself. I would lay equal blame on both for not checking. She shouldn't have assumed he would grab it himself since he was putting the car in the taxi and he shouldn't have assumed she would grab it for him since she put it down next to the car when they got to the taxis.
Agreed, which is why I put equal blame on them. They never raced together, so no assumptions if you want to win.All contestants should locate their bags before leaving anywhere, so in that sense he should have checked and known. But, IMO, she was responsible for his bag until she turned over responsibility to him. You don't just drop a bag at someone's feet, it has to include verbal communication and acknowledgement.stbugs said:They've had that happen before and those people always got what they needed. Sometimes they had to "work" for money, but they always got what they needed. They should have gone back right away if they were going to do it. The taxi driver would have known exactly where to go back to and the bag was there. Maybe they don't lose if they don't **** around.That said, after watching it to the end last night (I came in during the middle while my son watched it) and watching the beginning, while it was Mallory's fault, she did bring the bag all the way out to where they were waiting for the taxi. She didn't leave it at the roadblock itself. I would lay equal blame on both for not checking. She shouldn't have assumed he would grab it himself since he was putting the car in the taxi and he shouldn't have assumed she would grab it for him since she put it down next to the car when they got to the taxis.EYLive said:If a player can buy shoes at an airport, then Mark should be able to buy clothes. As much as the other racers love Mark, I think they would have found a way to get him a new backpack and clothes.