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That doesn't seem like Apple's M.O. to me. Video via iChatAV is a killer app for Apple that will set the iPhone apart from the competition and keep the phone industry scrambling to catch up. If it's there at all I'd almost guarantee it's built into every iPhone 2.
Well, I know they're angling for the enterprise market, and those markets should probably be given phones without cameras. So that's one of the reasons I think there will be different models with different hardware, but we'll see.
Why? Should they be given phones without iPods as well? I don't see the enterprise capability as having anything to do with video chat. Plus, iChatAV will run over 3G and wireless networks, enabling users to presumably voice and video other users (even computers) without using cell minutes. Seems like a nice business capability to me.
Lots of businesses don't allow phones with cameras for espionage reasons. I've had my taken away while on a plant tour and the last two companies I worked for won't allow them as corporate phones. If they want to sell to business folks, they should include a model without a camera.
They HAVE to have this fixed, don't they Keith?I can remember not being able to believe a $400 smart phone wouldn't let me cut and paste something. That's as basic as it gets.
Yes. Several of the blackberry models have no camera for that reason. (or at least that's what they say. Makes sense to me as their other models do have cameras / video)JLots of businesses don't allow phones with cameras for espionage reasons. I've had my taken away while on a plant tour and the last two companies I worked for won't allow them as corporate phones. If they want to sell to business folks, they should include a model without a camera.Why? Should they be given phones without iPods as well? I don't see the enterprise capability as having anything to do with video chat. Plus, iChatAV will run over 3G and wireless networks, enabling users to presumably voice and video other users (even computers) without using cell minutes. Seems like a nice business capability to me.
Gotcha. Do their competitors (Blackberry... et al) in the enterprise market have non-camera models as well? Seems like a pretty small niche that would require it.Lots of businesses don't allow phones with cameras for espionage reasons. I've had my taken away while on a plant tour and the last two companies I worked for won't allow them as corporate phones. If they want to sell to business folks, they should include a model without a camera.
Some security-sensitive workplaces explicitly prohibit camera phones from the premises. On a percentage basis, that's probably fairly small number of workplaces right now, but I would expect it to grow over time. At the same time, other businesses would eat the video chat feature up. Camera-free models of the same base phone is the way that other enterprise phone manufacturers (like RIM) get around this issue. Not sure if there will be different models of the iPhone this time around but in the future, I would expect to see it happen.
I hope so, Joe. That's pretty much got to be fixed at the OS/firmware level in order to do it right. An add-on application would not be the right way to do this.
goon. J
The Carlos Rodriguez thing makes it a total fake.
Good news but if they kept the phone at $300 and lowered the monthly fee to ~$50... I would be in. The hardware price is not my issue. The monthly fee is. Why? I already pay ~$50 for high speed internet at home... I don't want to pay another $70 a month just to have mobile internet. Yeah, I know you get a phone and all the other gadgets with it but that is what is keeping me from jumping aboard.
How did you get the GPS working without even activating the phone? New feature I presume?
You can turn the phone on and use it the functions... you just can't call with it. I used the iPod as well.How did you get the GPS working without even activating the phone? New feature I presume?
Tell us more. How's the 3G? Video conferencing? What other features does it have? How about some pics?You can turn the phone on and use it the functions... you just can't call with it. I used the iPod as well.How did you get the GPS working without even activating the phone? New feature I presume?
Mine is set up to change the word to what it thinks is correct.
You can turn the phone on and use it the functions... you just can't call with it. I used the iPod as well.How did you get the GPS working without even activating the phone? New feature I presume?
Ok, I'll assume that you are full of #### then.You can turn the phone on and use it the functions... you just can't call with it. I used the iPod as well.How did you get the GPS working without even activating the phone? New feature I presume?
In a couple of hours I will be. I ate a couple hours ago.Ok, I'll assume that you are full of #### then.You can turn the phone on and use it the functions... you just can't call with it. I used the iPod as well.How did you get the GPS working without even activating the phone? New feature I presume?
Agreed.Between employee blackout dates (June15-July15) and Apple's opportunity for weeks of free advertising (Co-announcement media blitz) I can't see how it'd go down today either.Sold 4 Unlocked iPhones over the weekend. (mine @ $385, wife's @$400, 2 friends @$380 & $400)If release lands in June I'll be happy.
Nicely done. I was hoping that I'd have my new iphone by today, but according to package deliveries to phone stores, it looks like they're only going to get a couple of demo models :( .Another week with the crappy nokia. Oh well, at least there's a fun golf game on there, even if it's like the 8-bit original NES style graphics. I can bear it I suppose.Agreed.Between employee blackout dates (June15-July15) and Apple's opportunity for weeks of free advertising (Co-announcement media blitz) I can't see how it'd go down today either.Sold 4 Unlocked iPhones over the weekend. (mine @ $385, wife's @$400, 2 friends @$380 & $400)If release lands in June I'll be happy.Indications are that it won't start selling until the 15th :( .
Nicely done. I was hoping that I'd have my new iphone by today, but according to package deliveries to phone stores, it looks like they're only going to get a couple of demo models :( .Another week with the crappy nokia. Oh well, at least there's a fun golf game on there, even if it's like the 8-bit original NES style graphics. I can bear it I suppose.Agreed.Between employee blackout dates (June15-July15) and Apple's opportunity for weeks of free advertising (Co-announcement media blitz) I can't see how it'd go down today either.Sold 4 Unlocked iPhones over the weekend. (mine @ $385, wife's @$400, 2 friends @$380 & $400)If release lands in June I'll be happy.Indications are that it won't start selling until the 15th :( .
:brickwall:I feel ya. I don't even have a backup phone yet. I plan on slipping my sim into an old AT&T work phone since my Blackberry isn't ATT.
If you could give some pointers on setting up the auction, I'd appreciate it. I'm trying to sell my 16 GB and my nephew's 8 GB. Do they get more if they are jailbroken? What's the best way to jailbreak them? TIAAgreed.Between employee blackout dates (June15-July15) and Apple's opportunity for weeks of free advertising (Co-announcement media blitz) I can't see how it'd go down today either.Sold 4 Unlocked iPhones over the weekend. (mine @ $385, wife's @$400, 2 friends @$380 & $400)If release lands in June I'll be happy.
Follow something like this. Unlocking can fetch close to $100 more dollars.If you could give some pointers on setting up the auction, I'd appreciate it. I'm trying to sell my 16 GB and my nephew's 8 GB. Do they get more if they are jailbroken? What's the best way to jailbreak them? TIAAgreed.Between employee blackout dates (June15-July15) and Apple's opportunity for weeks of free advertising (Co-announcement media blitz) I can't see how it'd go down today either.
Indications are that it won't start selling until the 15th.
Sold 4 Unlocked iPhones over the weekend. (mine @ $385, wife's @$400, 2 friends @$380 & $400)
If release lands in June I'll be happy.
streaming text, no video
OR, you can listen to 3 guys read the streaming text Wow, how exciting. Why isnt this thing streamed live via video?
