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Avengers was really good, but it's not better than Dark Knight.
The movies should not be compared. One is fun and filled with humor and one is driven on darkness. I enjoyed them both but for extremely different reasons.
Yeah, totally different extremes of the same genre. Marvel has been purposeful in going with a lighter tone, and I think it serves this group of characters well. There are some Marvel characters that could have that same gritty pseudo-reality treatment that Nolan used so effectively in Dark Knight, but with Hulk, Thor and Iron Man it would be ridiculous.Both are great in their own way. Though I do have to say, for pure entertainment and joy, I'd probably watch Avengers 9 times out of 10 over Dark Knight. The other time I'd likely be drunk and pissed off about something.
The Frank Miller stories for Daredevil could provide Dark Knight-like grittiness.
The Miller-penned "Born Again" storyline is supposedly serving as the basis for a Daredevil relaunch that is in development.
So long as Ben Afflack stays far away from the project. That movie is probably the worst comic book movie IMO. Worse than the Clooney and Kilmer Batmans. IT may have turned me off of the character completely.
Rumors I've heard is the guy from the Transporter movies wants to play Daredevil and Frank Miller has given his approval of that guy. I'm probably such a Daredevil fan that is biases me. The Director's cut is a better movie, and I enjoyed it better than both Hulk movies, all 3 Punishers, Wolverine: Origins and both Ghost Riders. And it was better than Howard the Duck, yeah that's a Marvel character.
"Born Again" is easily one of the greatest comic story arcs ever written, and it turned me on to Daredevil as a character permanently. The Daredevil movie was dishearteningly bad. And...it wasn't just Affleck. It was Kevin Smith that helped kill it.All that said, it was still better than Ang Lee's Hulk.Wait a minute. I was posting in a hockey thread. How did I get sucked in here? It's like a geek black hole!
 
It seems that powers are scaled back some in the movies although Thor is probably the most powerful single hero in the Marvel Universe that I can think of.
It's hard to quantify but prior to Thor getting the Odin power I would take Hulk in any throwdown. There just doesn't seem to be an upper limit to his strength. When he goes all "HULK SMASH!" he's pretty much unstoppable.
This was pretty much my take on the "who is the most unstoppable" question. I am in my 40's and thru the years I have never known any entity that defeats Hulk. That included Thor. And I am a huge fan of Thor. Hulk's strength is based on his anger. That's pure human emotion. There is no limit to emotion. Thus there is no limit to Hulk and his strength. But I love Thor and the whole brother against brother story.
I agree that Hulk probably beats Thor. I think Silver Surfer and Dr. Strange beat Hulk.
I believe Hulk has already nearly beaten Silver Surfer to death in Secret Wars.
Has there been a 3rd Secret Wars? I don't recall the Surfer and Hulk fighting in Secret Wars 1 or 2. The only Hulk vs. Surfer battle I'm familiar with are:Tales to Astonish # 93, The battle ends with the Hulk being knocked unconscious.Incredible Hulk # 250, The former Galactus herald absorbs the gamma energy from the Hulk's body, turning him back into Bruce Banner. Silver Surfer # 125, Don't think they really fight much in this one, from the summaries I've read.Incredible Hulk v2 # 95, Surprised by his former ally's attack, the Hulk recovered and shattered the Surfer's control disk but nonetheless angrily beat him senseless.I'd say they are even since in the second battle the Surfer drained the gamma energy, removing the Hulk rather than physically besting Hulk.
Been a long time but it's in the series where they are calling the Hulk the Green Scar as he is being forced to fight in an arena.
 
Avengers was really good, but it's not better than Dark Knight.
The movies should not be compared. One is fun and filled with humor and one is driven on darkness. I enjoyed them both but for extremely different reasons.
Yeah, totally different extremes of the same genre. Marvel has been purposeful in going with a lighter tone, and I think it serves this group of characters well. There are some Marvel characters that could have that same gritty pseudo-reality treatment that Nolan used so effectively in Dark Knight, but with Hulk, Thor and Iron Man it would be ridiculous.Both are great in their own way. Though I do have to say, for pure entertainment and joy, I'd probably watch Avengers 9 times out of 10 over Dark Knight. The other time I'd likely be drunk and pissed off about something.
The Frank Miller stories for Daredevil could provide Dark Knight-like grittiness.
The Miller-penned "Born Again" storyline is supposedly serving as the basis for a Daredevil relaunch that is in development.
So long as Ben Afflack stays far away from the project. That movie is probably the worst comic book movie IMO. Worse than the Clooney and Kilmer Batmans. IT may have turned me off of the character completely.
Rumors I've heard is the guy from the Transporter movies wants to play Daredevil and Frank Miller has given his approval of that guy. I'm probably such a Daredevil fan that is biases me. The Director's cut is a better movie, and I enjoyed it better than both Hulk movies, all 3 Punishers, Wolverine: Origins and both Ghost Riders. And it was better than Howard the Duck, yeah that's a Marvel character.
"Born Again" is easily one of the greatest comic story arcs ever written, and it turned me on to Daredevil as a character permanently. The Daredevil movie was dishearteningly bad. And...it wasn't just Affleck. It was Kevin Smith that helped kill it.All that said, it was still better than Ang Lee's Hulk.Wait a minute. I was posting in a hockey thread. How did I get sucked in here? It's like a geek black hole!
I liked what Ang tried to do with it.
 
Avengers was really good, but it's not better than Dark Knight.
The movies should not be compared. One is fun and filled with humor and one is driven on darkness. I enjoyed them both but for extremely different reasons.
Yeah, totally different extremes of the same genre. Marvel has been purposeful in going with a lighter tone, and I think it serves this group of characters well. There are some Marvel characters that could have that same gritty pseudo-reality treatment that Nolan used so effectively in Dark Knight, but with Hulk, Thor and Iron Man it would be ridiculous.Both are great in their own way. Though I do have to say, for pure entertainment and joy, I'd probably watch Avengers 9 times out of 10 over Dark Knight. The other time I'd likely be drunk and pissed off about something.
The Frank Miller stories for Daredevil could provide Dark Knight-like grittiness.
The Miller-penned "Born Again" storyline is supposedly serving as the basis for a Daredevil relaunch that is in development.
So long as Ben Afflack stays far away from the project. That movie is probably the worst comic book movie IMO. Worse than the Clooney and Kilmer Batmans. IT may have turned me off of the character completely.
Rumors I've heard is the guy from the Transporter movies wants to play Daredevil and Frank Miller has given his approval of that guy. I'm probably such a Daredevil fan that is biases me. The Director's cut is a better movie, and I enjoyed it better than both Hulk movies, all 3 Punishers, Wolverine: Origins and both Ghost Riders. And it was better than Howard the Duck, yeah that's a Marvel character.
"Born Again" is easily one of the greatest comic story arcs ever written, and it turned me on to Daredevil as a character permanently. The Daredevil movie was dishearteningly bad. And...it wasn't just Affleck. It was Kevin Smith that helped kill it.All that said, it was still better than Ang Lee's Hulk.Wait a minute. I was posting in a hockey thread. How did I get sucked in here? It's like a geek black hole!
The Daredevil and Punisher story "Child's Play" is very good as well. I believe that's written by Frank Miller too.It wouldn't surprise me too if the studio prevented them from doing a gritty film. The Dark Knight hadn't been done yet. I do know there was a battle with the director, that's why there's a director's cut.
 
Avengers was really good, but it's not better than Dark Knight.
The movies should not be compared. One is fun and filled with humor and one is driven on darkness. I enjoyed them both but for extremely different reasons.
Yeah, totally different extremes of the same genre. Marvel has been purposeful in going with a lighter tone, and I think it serves this group of characters well. There are some Marvel characters that could have that same gritty pseudo-reality treatment that Nolan used so effectively in Dark Knight, but with Hulk, Thor and Iron Man it would be ridiculous.Both are great in their own way. Though I do have to say, for pure entertainment and joy, I'd probably watch Avengers 9 times out of 10 over Dark Knight. The other time I'd likely be drunk and pissed off about something.
The Frank Miller stories for Daredevil could provide Dark Knight-like grittiness.
The Miller-penned "Born Again" storyline is supposedly serving as the basis for a Daredevil relaunch that is in development.
So long as Ben Afflack stays far away from the project. That movie is probably the worst comic book movie IMO. Worse than the Clooney and Kilmer Batmans. IT may have turned me off of the character completely.
Rumors I've heard is the guy from the Transporter movies wants to play Daredevil and Frank Miller has given his approval of that guy. I'm probably such a Daredevil fan that is biases me. The Director's cut is a better movie, and I enjoyed it better than both Hulk movies, all 3 Punishers, Wolverine: Origins and both Ghost Riders. And it was better than Howard the Duck, yeah that's a Marvel character.
"Born Again" is easily one of the greatest comic story arcs ever written, and it turned me on to Daredevil as a character permanently. The Daredevil movie was dishearteningly bad. And...it wasn't just Affleck. It was Kevin Smith that helped kill it.All that said, it was still better than Ang Lee's Hulk.Wait a minute. I was posting in a hockey thread. How did I get sucked in here? It's like a geek black hole!
I liked what Ang tried to do with it.
I found it boring and then the gamma radiated dogs were ridiculous.
 
Avengers was really good, but it's not better than Dark Knight.
The movies should not be compared. One is fun and filled with humor and one is driven on darkness. I enjoyed them both but for extremely different reasons.
Yeah, totally different extremes of the same genre. Marvel has been purposeful in going with a lighter tone, and I think it serves this group of characters well. There are some Marvel characters that could have that same gritty pseudo-reality treatment that Nolan used so effectively in Dark Knight, but with Hulk, Thor and Iron Man it would be ridiculous.Both are great in their own way. Though I do have to say, for pure entertainment and joy, I'd probably watch Avengers 9 times out of 10 over Dark Knight. The other time I'd likely be drunk and pissed off about something.
The Frank Miller stories for Daredevil could provide Dark Knight-like grittiness.
The Miller-penned "Born Again" storyline is supposedly serving as the basis for a Daredevil relaunch that is in development.
So long as Ben Afflack stays far away from the project. That movie is probably the worst comic book movie IMO. Worse than the Clooney and Kilmer Batmans. IT may have turned me off of the character completely.
Rumors I've heard is the guy from the Transporter movies wants to play Daredevil and Frank Miller has given his approval of that guy. I'm probably such a Daredevil fan that is biases me. The Director's cut is a better movie, and I enjoyed it better than both Hulk movies, all 3 Punishers, Wolverine: Origins and both Ghost Riders. And it was better than Howard the Duck, yeah that's a Marvel character.
"Born Again" is easily one of the greatest comic story arcs ever written, and it turned me on to Daredevil as a character permanently. The Daredevil movie was dishearteningly bad. And...it wasn't just Affleck. It was Kevin Smith that helped kill it.All that said, it was still better than Ang Lee's Hulk.Wait a minute. I was posting in a hockey thread. How did I get sucked in here? It's like a geek black hole!
I liked what Ang tried to do with it.
I found it boring and then the gamma radiated dogs were ridiculous.
It was a less comic booky take for the most part. I thought it was fine. I didn't think the reboot was all that much better really. I am hoping as others have said we have finally hit on the right Hulk.
 
Avengers was really good, but it's not better than Dark Knight.
The movies should not be compared. One is fun and filled with humor and one is driven on darkness. I enjoyed them both but for extremely different reasons.
Yeah, totally different extremes of the same genre. Marvel has been purposeful in going with a lighter tone, and I think it serves this group of characters well. There are some Marvel characters that could have that same gritty pseudo-reality treatment that Nolan used so effectively in Dark Knight, but with Hulk, Thor and Iron Man it would be ridiculous.Both are great in their own way. Though I do have to say, for pure entertainment and joy, I'd probably watch Avengers 9 times out of 10 over Dark Knight. The other time I'd likely be drunk and pissed off about something.
The Frank Miller stories for Daredevil could provide Dark Knight-like grittiness.
The Miller-penned "Born Again" storyline is supposedly serving as the basis for a Daredevil relaunch that is in development.
So long as Ben Afflack stays far away from the project. That movie is probably the worst comic book movie IMO. Worse than the Clooney and Kilmer Batmans. IT may have turned me off of the character completely.
Simply. Not. Possible. :no:
 
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'Copeman said:
I’m not a comic book kind of guy, but I do enjoy the movies. Looking back through this thread I see some people predicting who the villain will be in the second Avengers installment and talk of who can beat who regarding the villains and superheroes. How do you know who can beat who? I mean, Thor and the Hulk don’t seem like they can be killed. And the other “Gods” that are mentioned. How can they be killed? Is it something like a Superman and Kryptonite thing or something??
The Asgardians can be killed but it takes someone/something on their level to do it. After all Ragnarok is all about the destruction of the Norse Gods. Hulk is virtually indestructible due to his regenerative powers but unless the Hulk persona becomes dominant or separated from Banner he only lives as long as Banner does. If he does do one of those things he could live pretty much forever and IIRC canon has that happening.
So could the Hulk kill Thor, or vice versa? It sure didn't/doesn't seem like it.Could a nuke kill Thor? Or Hulk?
Pretty sure a nuke can't kill the Hulk (as demonstrated in the books). Not sure about Thor though.Wasn't a precedent set to where the Hulk will revert back to Banner if he were to take enough damage? Kind of like in the movie when he crash landed in Roman Grant's backyard. He would be easily killed at that point.
 
Avengers was really good, but it's not better than Dark Knight.
The movies should not be compared. One is fun and filled with humor and one is driven on darkness. I enjoyed them both but for extremely different reasons.
Yeah, totally different extremes of the same genre. Marvel has been purposeful in going with a lighter tone, and I think it serves this group of characters well. There are some Marvel characters that could have that same gritty pseudo-reality treatment that Nolan used so effectively in Dark Knight, but with Hulk, Thor and Iron Man it would be ridiculous.Both are great in their own way. Though I do have to say, for pure entertainment and joy, I'd probably watch Avengers 9 times out of 10 over Dark Knight. The other time I'd likely be drunk and pissed off about something.
The Frank Miller stories for Daredevil could provide Dark Knight-like grittiness.
The Miller-penned "Born Again" storyline is supposedly serving as the basis for a Daredevil relaunch that is in development.
So long as Ben Afflack stays far away from the project. That movie is probably the worst comic book movie IMO. Worse than the Clooney and Kilmer Batmans. IT may have turned me off of the character completely.
Rumors I've heard is the guy from the Transporter movies wants to play Daredevil and Frank Miller has given his approval of that guy. I'm probably such a Daredevil fan that is biases me. The Director's cut is a better movie, and I enjoyed it better than both Hulk movies, all 3 Punishers, Wolverine: Origins and both Ghost Riders. And it was better than Howard the Duck, yeah that's a Marvel character.
And another George Lucas abomination (exec prod).
 
The Hulk is the only character I'd be concerned that a 5-6 year old kid might find scary. If your kid can has watched Star Wars movies, then they'll be fine with this.

Now if the kid has only watched stuff like Shrek, Ice Age, Cars and the like, then I'd be hesitant to take them, till I'd seen how they respond to action movies that aren't animated.

There's an impalement, but it's less graphic than when the Green Goblin is impaled in the 1st Spider-man movie. You don't even see the blade poking out of the guy. His suit jacket might poke out a little but you don't see a blade coming out of his chest. Probably calling it stabbed in the back is a more accurate description and it is very brief, about one second and the next time you see the guy he's sitting on the ground and has the blood trickle on the corner of his mouth. It isn't like what you see in the Aliens movies, where a spike goes through and you see a person slump over with a spike sticking out and a gaping wound when it's pulled out.

 
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After a few days to digest everything, here are my top 10 moments from the movie. This was hard, and I'd come up with 20 others depending on my mood at the time. These stand out to me right now though. Obviously, massive spoiler warning.

10. The Shawarma Scene – This scene really demonstrates Whedon’s brilliance, IMO. Understated, genuine, as authentic as you can possibly get considering the subject material. The perfect ending to a 2 ½ hour adrenaline ride.

9. Coulson’s Last Stand - As much as I’m sad to see the character go, I’m glad they gave Phil Coulson a fitting sendoff. Funny and defiant to the end, and the sacrifice that was needed to bring the team together. I'd love it if they found a way to keep Clark Gregg around. Maybe as a certain android hero, created in his image.

8. Widow’s interrogation – As much as Scarlett Johansson felt like extraneous eye-candy in Iron Man 2, she really shines here. The faux vulnerability, and then genuine terror she shows later with the Hulk is fantastic. I felt like I really understood her fear of the Hulk, being a primal, mindless force beyond manipulation. When everyone else, even a demi-god, she can sneak up on.

7. Banner and Stark in the Helicarrier lab – You could practically pick any scene with those two, but that initial exchange when Stark is poking Banner trying to provoke a response is fantastic. “You’re tip-toeing big man. You need to strut.” I really liked the use of "Big Man" and "the other guy." when referring to the Hulk throughout.

6. Agent Coulson and Capt. America – I’ll lump the Quinn Jet scene and the payoff to the “vintage” card set gag together. Bonus points Joss Whedon for making a seemingly throw-in scene in Iron Man 2 meaningful (when Coulson finds the prototype shield in Tony’s lab and asks him if he knows what it is.)

5. Thanos reveal – I felt like this was coming the whole movie, from the moment the Chitari “Other” is addressing his master. Still, when the Other says the line about courting Death, and you get that turn and smile… holy crap.

4. “Puny god.” – I only wish they had mastered that line a little louder, because no one in the theater could hear it in the first showing I went to. Way too much laughter and applause that went on for at least a minute.

3. Thor vs. Hulk – This fight has been played out in comics and various animated media hundreds of times, seeing it in live action with flawless CGI was brilliant. I’m glad they didn’t tease any of that fight directly like they did some of the other major scenes with the trailers.

2. Banner – “That’s my secret Cap, I’m angry all the time.” Followed by Hulk pulverizing the Chitari space slug. This was such a brilliant payoff of the “what’s your secret” sub-plot, and kicks off one the great extended action sequences in movie history. I have no idea if it was 5, 10, or 20 minutes of the Avengers weaving in and out of battle in various combinations, but I was practically shaking with excitement throughout. Back to that line again, I seriously get goosebumps just thinking about it.

1. Avengers Assemble – After Hulk “suits-up” and you get the 360 camera rotation around the team. Even having seen it in a hundred trailers and ads, the theater just went nuts.
 
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After a few days to digest everything, here are my top 10 moments from the movie. This was hard, and I'd come up with 20 others depending on my mood at the time. These stand out to me right now though. Obviously, massive spoiler warning.

10. The Shawarma Scene – This scene really demonstrates Whedon’s brilliance, IMO. Understated, genuine, as authentic as you can possibly get considering the subject material. The perfect ending to a 2 ½ hour adrenaline ride. 9. Coulson’s Last Stand - As much as I’m sad to see the character go, I’m glad they gave Phil Coulson a fitting sendoff. Funny and defiant to the, and the sacrifice that was needed to bring the team together. I'd love it if they found a way to keep Clark Gregg around. Maybe as a certain android hero, created in his image.8. Widow’s interrogation – As much as Scarlett Johansson felt like extraneous eye-candy in Iron Man 2, she really shines here. The faux vulnerability, and then genuine terror she shows later with the Hulk is fantastic. I felt like I really understood her fear of the Hulk, being a primal, mindless force beyond manipulation. When everyone else, even a demi-god, she can sneak up on. 7. Banner and Stark in the Helicarrier lab – You could practically pick any scene with those two, but that initial exchange when Stark is poking Banner trying to provoke a response is fantastic. “You’re tip-toeing big man. You need to strut.” I really liked the use of "Big Man" and "the other guy." when referring to the Hulk throughout. 6. Agent Coulson and Capt. America – I’ll lump the Quinn Jet scene and the payoff to the “vintage” card set gag together. Bonus points Joss Whedon for making a seemingly throw-in scene in Iron Man 2 meaningful (when Coulson finds the prototype shield in Tony’s lab and asks him if he knows what it is.) 5. Thanos reveal – I felt like this was coming the whole movie, from the moment the Chitari “Other” is addressing his master. Still, when the Other says the line about courting Death, and you get that turn and smile… holy crap. 4. “Puny god.” – I only wish they had mastered that line a little louder, because no one in the theater could hear it in the first showing I went to. Way too much laughter and applause that went on for at least a minute. 3. Thor vs. Hulk – This fight has been played out in comics and various animated media hundreds of times, seeing it in live action with flawless CGI was brilliant. I’m glad they didn’t tease any of that fight directly like they did some of the other major scenes with the trailers. 2. Banner – “That’s my secret Cap, I’m angry all the time.” Followed by Hulk pulverizing the Chitari space slug. This was such a brilliant payoff of the “what’s your secret” sub-plot, and kicks off one the great extended action sequences in movie history. I have no idea if it was 5, 10, or 20 minutes of the Avengers weaving in and out of battle in various combinations, but I was practically shaking with excitement throughout. Back to that line again, I seriously get goosebumps just thinking about it. 1. Avengers Assemble – After Hulk “suits-up” and you get the 360 camera rotation around the team. Even having seen it in a hundred trailers and ads, the theater just went nuts.
Still chuckling over "puny God" - loved that sceneMovie was fantastic
 
After a few days to digest everything, here are my top 10 moments from the movie. This was hard, and I'd come up with 20 others depending on my mood at the time. These stand out to me right now though. Obviously, massive spoiler warning.

10. The Shawarma Scene – This scene really demonstrates Whedon’s brilliance, IMO. Understated, genuine, as authentic as you can possibly get considering the subject material. The perfect ending to a 2 ½ hour adrenaline ride. 9. Coulson’s Last Stand - As much as I’m sad to see the character go, I’m glad they gave Phil Coulson a fitting sendoff. Funny and defiant to the, and the sacrifice that was needed to bring the team together. I'd love it if they found a way to keep Clark Gregg around. Maybe as a certain android hero, created in his image.8. Widow’s interrogation – As much as Scarlett Johansson felt like extraneous eye-candy in Iron Man 2, she really shines here. The faux vulnerability, and then genuine terror she shows later with the Hulk is fantastic. I felt like I really understood her fear of the Hulk, being a primal, mindless force beyond manipulation. When everyone else, even a demi-god, she can sneak up on. 7. Banner and Stark in the Helicarrier lab – You could practically pick any scene with those two, but that initial exchange when Stark is poking Banner trying to provoke a response is fantastic. “You’re tip-toeing big man. You need to strut.” I really liked the use of "Big Man" and "the other guy." when referring to the Hulk throughout. 6. Agent Coulson and Capt. America – I’ll lump the Quinn Jet scene and the payoff to the “vintage” card set gag together. Bonus points Joss Whedon for making a seemingly throw-in scene in Iron Man 2 meaningful (when Coulson finds the prototype shield in Tony’s lab and asks him if he knows what it is.) 5. Thanos reveal – I felt like this was coming the whole movie, from the moment the Chitari “Other” is addressing his master. Still, when the Other says the line about courting Death, and you get that turn and smile… holy crap. 4. “Puny god.” – I only wish they had mastered that line a little louder, because no one in the theater could hear it in the first showing I went to. Way too much laughter and applause that went on for at least a minute. 3. Thor vs. Hulk – This fight has been played out in comics and various animated media hundreds of times, seeing it in live action with flawless CGI was brilliant. I’m glad they didn’t tease any of that fight directly like they did some of the other major scenes with the trailers. 2. Banner – “That’s my secret Cap, I’m angry all the time.” Followed by Hulk pulverizing the Chitari space slug. This was such a brilliant payoff of the “what’s your secret” sub-plot, and kicks off one the great extended action sequences in movie history. I have no idea if it was 5, 10, or 20 minutes of the Avengers weaving in and out of battle in various combinations, but I was practically shaking with excitement throughout. Back to that line again, I seriously get goosebumps just thinking about it. 1. Avengers Assemble – After Hulk “suits-up” and you get the 360 camera rotation around the team. Even having seen it in a hundred trailers and ads, the theater just went nuts.
Still chuckling over "puny God" - loved that sceneMovie was fantasticLoved all those scenes. I also loved
Hulk and Thor clean up some bad guys and when they are resting Hulk just smashes Thor off the screen. Whedon nailed the timing of that.
 
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After a few days to digest everything, here are my top 10 moments from the movie. This was hard, and I'd come up with 20 others depending on my mood at the time. These stand out to me right now though. Obviously, massive spoiler warning.

10. The Shawarma Scene – This scene really demonstrates Whedon’s brilliance, IMO. Understated, genuine, as authentic as you can possibly get considering the subject material. The perfect ending to a 2 ½ hour adrenaline ride. 9. Coulson’s Last Stand - As much as I’m sad to see the character go, I’m glad they gave Phil Coulson a fitting sendoff. Funny and defiant to the, and the sacrifice that was needed to bring the team together. I'd love it if they found a way to keep Clark Gregg around. Maybe as a certain android hero, created in his image.8. Widow’s interrogation – As much as Scarlett Johansson felt like extraneous eye-candy in Iron Man 2, she really shines here. The faux vulnerability, and then genuine terror she shows later with the Hulk is fantastic. I felt like I really understood her fear of the Hulk, being a primal, mindless force beyond manipulation. When everyone else, even a demi-god, she can sneak up on. 7. Banner and Stark in the Helicarrier lab – You could practically pick any scene with those two, but that initial exchange when Stark is poking Banner trying to provoke a response is fantastic. “You’re tip-toeing big man. You need to strut.” I really liked the use of "Big Man" and "the other guy." when referring to the Hulk throughout. 6. Agent Coulson and Capt. America – I’ll lump the Quinn Jet scene and the payoff to the “vintage” card set gag together. Bonus points Joss Whedon for making a seemingly throw-in scene in Iron Man 2 meaningful (when Coulson finds the prototype shield in Tony’s lab and asks him if he knows what it is.) 5. Thanos reveal – I felt like this was coming the whole movie, from the moment the Chitari “Other” is addressing his master. Still, when the Other says the line about courting Death, and you get that turn and smile… holy crap. 4. “Puny god.” – I only wish they had mastered that line a little louder, because no one in the theater could hear it in the first showing I went to. Way too much laughter and applause that went on for at least a minute. 3. Thor vs. Hulk – This fight has been played out in comics and various animated media hundreds of times, seeing it in live action with flawless CGI was brilliant. I’m glad they didn’t tease any of that fight directly like they did some of the other major scenes with the trailers. 2. Banner – “That’s my secret Cap, I’m angry all the time.” Followed by Hulk pulverizing the Chitari space slug. This was such a brilliant payoff of the “what’s your secret” sub-plot, and kicks off one the great extended action sequences in movie history. I have no idea if it was 5, 10, or 20 minutes of the Avengers weaving in and out of battle in various combinations, but I was practically shaking with excitement throughout. Back to that line again, I seriously get goosebumps just thinking about it. 1. Avengers Assemble – After Hulk “suits-up” and you get the 360 camera rotation around the team. Even having seen it in a hundred trailers and ads, the theater just went nuts.
Still chuckling over "puny God" - loved that sceneMovie was fantastic
Loved all those scenes. I also loved
Hulk and Thor clean up some bad guys and when they are resting Hulk just smashes Thor off the screen. Whedon nailed the timing of that.
Yeah, that was great.
 
For lack of a better term Joss Whedon just gets it. Here is a letter he just wrote on his web site

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Well, it's been quite a weekend. Someday, long from now, I will even have an emotional reaction to it, like a person would. I can't wait! But before I become blinded by this "emotion" experience, there's a few things I'd like to say. Well, type.

People have told me that this matters, that my life is about to change. I am sure that is true. And change is good — change is exciting. I think — not to jinx it — that I may finally be recognized at Comiccon. Imagine! Also, with my percentage of "the Avengers" gross, I can afford to buy ... [gets call from agent. Weeps manfully. Resumes typing.] ... a fine meal. But REALLY fine, with truffles and s#!+. And I can get a studio to finance my dream project, the reboot of "Air Bud" that we all feel is so long overdue. (He could play Jai Alai! Think of the emotional ramifications of JAI ALAI!!!!)

What doesn't change is anything that matters. What doesn't change is that I've had the smartest, most loyal, most passionate, most articulate group of — I'm not even gonna say fans. I'm going with "peeps" — that any cult oddity such as my bad self could have dreamt of. When almost no one was watching, when people probably should have STOPPED watching, I've had three constants: my family and friends, my collaborators (often the same), and y'all. A lot of stories have come out about my "dark years," and how I'm "unrecognized" ... I love these stories, because they make me seem super-important, but I have never felt the darkness (and I'm ALL about my darkness) that they described. Because I have so much. I have people, in my life, on this site, in places I've yet to discover, that always made me feel the truth of success: an artist and an audience communicating. Communicating to the point of collaborating. I've thought, "maybe I'm over; maybe I've said my piece". But never with fear. Never with rancor. Because of y'all. Because you knew me when. If you think topping a box office record compares with someone telling you your work helped them through a rough time, you're probably new here. (For the record, and despite my inhuman distance from the joy-joy of it: topping a box office record is super-dope. I'm an alien, not a robot.) So this is me, saying thank you. All of you. You've taken as much guff for loving my work as I have for over-writing it, and you deserve, in this our time of streaming into the main, to crow.

 
Just got back. A lot of fun. They did a very good job of giving every character the right amount of screen time too which is always hard in group movies. I'm not into the whole universe as many but it was still thoroughly enjoyable. Hulk stole the show to me though.

And did I mention that Pepper is hot. She could have been in it more.

 
Just saw it...loved the action scenes and the HULK ruled the movie, every scene hes in is gold. Bogged down at times with just a tad too much dialog for long stretches but when it picked up with action it was worth the wait.Starks is a riot . It really was like a comic book come to life, made me feel like a kid again!!!

 
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Saw it last night with a bunch of guys from the neighborhood. Just awesome! Loved it and was happy to see it kept comic book clean to share with kids, too.

 
After a few days to digest everything, here are my top 10 moments from the movie. This was hard, and I'd come up with 20 others depending on my mood at the time. These stand out to me right now though. Obviously, massive spoiler warning.

10. The Shawarma Scene – This scene really demonstrates Whedon’s brilliance, IMO. Understated, genuine, as authentic as you can possibly get considering the subject material. The perfect ending to a 2 ½ hour adrenaline ride. 9. Coulson’s Last Stand - As much as I’m sad to see the character go, I’m glad they gave Phil Coulson a fitting sendoff. Funny and defiant to the end, and the sacrifice that was needed to bring the team together. I'd love it if they found a way to keep Clark Gregg around. Maybe as a certain android hero, created in his image.8. Widow’s interrogation – As much as Scarlett Johansson felt like extraneous eye-candy in Iron Man 2, she really shines here. The faux vulnerability, and then genuine terror she shows later with the Hulk is fantastic. I felt like I really understood her fear of the Hulk, being a primal, mindless force beyond manipulation. When everyone else, even a demi-god, she can sneak up on. 7. Banner and Stark in the Helicarrier lab – You could practically pick any scene with those two, but that initial exchange when Stark is poking Banner trying to provoke a response is fantastic. “You’re tip-toeing big man. You need to strut.” I really liked the use of "Big Man" and "the other guy." when referring to the Hulk throughout. 6. Agent Coulson and Capt. America – I’ll lump the Quinn Jet scene and the payoff to the “vintage” card set gag together. Bonus points Joss Whedon for making a seemingly throw-in scene in Iron Man 2 meaningful (when Coulson finds the prototype shield in Tony’s lab and asks him if he knows what it is.) 5. Thanos reveal – I felt like this was coming the whole movie, from the moment the Chitari “Other” is addressing his master. Still, when the Other says the line about courting Death, and you get that turn and smile… holy crap. 4. “Puny god.” – I only wish they had mastered that line a little louder, because no one in the theater could hear it in the first showing I went to. Way too much laughter and applause that went on for at least a minute. 3. Thor vs. Hulk – This fight has been played out in comics and various animated media hundreds of times, seeing it in live action with flawless CGI was brilliant. I’m glad they didn’t tease any of that fight directly like they did some of the other major scenes with the trailers. 2. Banner – “That’s my secret Cap, I’m angry all the time.” Followed by Hulk pulverizing the Chitari space slug. This was such a brilliant payoff of the “what’s your secret” sub-plot, and kicks off one the great extended action sequences in movie history. I have no idea if it was 5, 10, or 20 minutes of the Avengers weaving in and out of battle in various combinations, but I was practically shaking with excitement throughout. Back to that line again, I seriously get goosebumps just thinking about it. 1. Avengers Assemble – After Hulk “suits-up” and you get the 360 camera rotation around the team. Even having seen it in a hundred trailers and ads, the theater just went nuts.
I couldn't agree more!! I hope they pick Whedon to direct the sequel. He did a fantastic job!
 
After a few days to digest everything, here are my top 10 moments from the movie. This was hard, and I'd come up with 20 others depending on my mood at the time. These stand out to me right now though. Obviously, massive spoiler warning.

10. The Shawarma Scene – This scene really demonstrates Whedon’s brilliance, IMO. Understated, genuine, as authentic as you can possibly get considering the subject material. The perfect ending to a 2 ½ hour adrenaline ride. 9. Coulson’s Last Stand - As much as I’m sad to see the character go, I’m glad they gave Phil Coulson a fitting sendoff. Funny and defiant to the end, and the sacrifice that was needed to bring the team together. I'd love it if they found a way to keep Clark Gregg around. Maybe as a certain android hero, created in his image.8. Widow’s interrogation – As much as Scarlett Johansson felt like extraneous eye-candy in Iron Man 2, she really shines here. The faux vulnerability, and then genuine terror she shows later with the Hulk is fantastic. I felt like I really understood her fear of the Hulk, being a primal, mindless force beyond manipulation. When everyone else, even a demi-god, she can sneak up on. 7. Banner and Stark in the Helicarrier lab – You could practically pick any scene with those two, but that initial exchange when Stark is poking Banner trying to provoke a response is fantastic. “You’re tip-toeing big man. You need to strut.” I really liked the use of "Big Man" and "the other guy." when referring to the Hulk throughout. 6. Agent Coulson and Capt. America – I’ll lump the Quinn Jet scene and the payoff to the “vintage” card set gag together. Bonus points Joss Whedon for making a seemingly throw-in scene in Iron Man 2 meaningful (when Coulson finds the prototype shield in Tony’s lab and asks him if he knows what it is.) 5. Thanos reveal – I felt like this was coming the whole movie, from the moment the Chitari “Other” is addressing his master. Still, when the Other says the line about courting Death, and you get that turn and smile… holy crap. 4. “Puny god.” – I only wish they had mastered that line a little louder, because no one in the theater could hear it in the first showing I went to. Way too much laughter and applause that went on for at least a minute. 3. Thor vs. Hulk – This fight has been played out in comics and various animated media hundreds of times, seeing it in live action with flawless CGI was brilliant. I’m glad they didn’t tease any of that fight directly like they did some of the other major scenes with the trailers. 2. Banner – “That’s my secret Cap, I’m angry all the time.” Followed by Hulk pulverizing the Chitari space slug. This was such a brilliant payoff of the “what’s your secret” sub-plot, and kicks off one the great extended action sequences in movie history. I have no idea if it was 5, 10, or 20 minutes of the Avengers weaving in and out of battle in various combinations, but I was practically shaking with excitement throughout. Back to that line again, I seriously get goosebumps just thinking about it. 1. Avengers Assemble – After Hulk “suits-up” and you get the 360 camera rotation around the team. Even having seen it in a hundred trailers and ads, the theater just went nuts.
I couldn't agree more!! I hope they pick Whedon to direct the sequel. He did a fantastic job!Just to add...
11) After tons of back forth previously between Capt and Iron Man, when they are all assembled and facing their biggest challenge... Stark tells/asks Capt America to take the lead and make the calls.
 
The Avengers are the greatest collection of super heroes ever assembled..... and a guy who uses a bow and arrow
Hawkeye is awesome. Don't be a hater.
Hawkeye is the Aquaman of the Avengers. If they lost him, they lose nothing.
Think a love triangle movie with Hulk, Black Widow and Hawkeye would be interesting. Yes, I'm serious. No romance in The Avengers. Think it's an essential element to any superhero movie. Avengers was Transformers without Lebouf and whatever chick he was smashing. It was better then the first Transformers but only because of a handful of Hulk laughs and an amazing 5-minute-stretch of interweaving CGI. Large segments of The Avengers were boring.
 
saw it last night, really sweet. even the wife enjoyed it. and I drag her to alot of comic based stuff that is meh,

im assuming avengers 2 will have thanos as a villian.

I thought hulk vs Loki was hilliarious in stark tower

 
saw it last night, really sweet. even the wife enjoyed it. and I drag her to alot of comic based stuff that is meh,

im assuming avengers 2 will have thanos as a villain.

I thought hulk vs Loki was hilliarious in stark tower
Just a question from a novice in Avenger's lore. Why Thanos? What's the thinking here? Why pick him as the next villain? Does he have some unique connection to the Avevengers? I've looked him up in The Marvel Encyclopedia and he has a small section, but no where near what I would think would be enough to make him a "main" villain. Just curious. Somebody that has followed The Avengers forever please answer.
 
saw it last night, really sweet. even the wife enjoyed it. and I drag her to alot of comic based stuff that is meh,

im assuming avengers 2 will have thanos as a villain.

I thought hulk vs Loki was hilliarious in stark tower
Just a question from a novice in Avenger's lore. Why Thanos? What's the thinking here? Why pick him as the next villain? Does he have some unique connection to the Avevengers? I've looked him up in The Marvel Encyclopedia and he has a small section, but no where near what I would think would be enough to make him a "main" villain. Just curious. Somebody that has followed The Avengers forever please answer.
He's one of the more powerful entities in the Marvel universe, so he's part of a small handful of villains that make sense for the Avengers.
 
saw it last night, really sweet. even the wife enjoyed it. and I drag her to alot of comic based stuff that is meh,

im assuming avengers 2 will have thanos as a villain.

I thought hulk vs Loki was hilliarious in stark tower
Just a question from a novice in Avenger's lore. Why Thanos? What's the thinking here? Why pick him as the next villain? Does he have some unique connection to the Avevengers? I've looked him up in The Marvel Encyclopedia and he has a small section, but no where near what I would think would be enough to make him a "main" villain. Just curious. Somebody that has followed The Avengers forever please answer.
He's one of the more powerful entities in the Marvel universe, so he's part of a small handful of villains that make sense for the Avengers.
i wonder if the silver surfer will make an appearence
 
saw it last night, really sweet. even the wife enjoyed it. and I drag her to alot of comic based stuff that is meh,

im assuming avengers 2 will have thanos as a villain.

I thought hulk vs Loki was hilliarious in stark tower
Just a question from a novice in Avenger's lore. Why Thanos? What's the thinking here? Why pick him as the next villain? Does he have some unique connection to the Avevengers? I've looked him up in The Marvel Encyclopedia and he has a small section, but no where near what I would think would be enough to make him a "main" villain. Just curious. Somebody that has followed The Avengers forever please answer.
I'm not sure it makes the most sense either. Thanos has a small section because Marvel has pretty much painted themselves into a corner by making him demi-god powerful and obsessed with death. That's a tough character to write - which is why so few have.
 
I'm not familiar with Thanos, but is there any chance the character is Apocalypse? He has a purple face too right? Or was Apocalypse exclusively an X-Men villain?

 
Just saw the movie, some questions:

1) Why could Hulk control himself during the invasion when he was clearly out of control on the airship?

2) What was the point of that entire hour or so on the airship? It seemed to serve virtually no purpose except perhaps to allow for Loki to use Stark's 'dark energy' power source in secret.

3) How did Thor get to Earth? Shouldn't he have been trapped on Asgard without the bifrost?

4) Why wasn't ScarJo's derriere more prominently featured, especially at the Imax 3D I saw it in?
 
After a few days to digest everything, here are my top 10 moments from the movie. This was hard, and I'd come up with 20 others depending on my mood at the time. These stand out to me right now though. Obviously, massive spoiler warning.

10. The Shawarma Scene – This scene really demonstrates Whedon’s brilliance, IMO. Understated, genuine, as authentic as you can possibly get considering the subject material. The perfect ending to a 2 ½ hour adrenaline ride.
If you're referring to the final post-credits scene, I think Downey gets a lot of credit for it. He reportedly is the one who came up with the Shwarma line. That led to Whedon shooting the final post-credits scene after the film had its Hollywood premiere.
I don't have much to add that hasn't been covered by others here. This is a GREAT film. I'm a huge Whedon fan and he absolutely nailed this film in every way. All of the characters had great moments and the cast blended perfectly together. A fun ride and the only negative is the sequel isn't ready now because I really want to see it.By the way, in the annals of perfect Hollywood casting you won't go too long before mentioning Downey Jr. as Tony Stark/Iron Man. A perfect marriage of actor and character.

 
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Just saw the movie, some questions:

1) Why could Hulk control himself during the invasion when he was clearly out of control on the airship?2) What was the point of that entire hour or so on the airship? It seemed to serve virtually no purpose except perhaps to allow for Loki to use Stark's 'dark energy' power source in secret.3) How did Thor get to Earth? Shouldn't he have been trapped on Asgard without the bifrost?4) Why wasn't ScarJo's derriere more prominently featured, especially at the Imax 3D I saw it in?
1) Part of this I think is just the evolution of the character. They wanted to show Hulk progressing from the misunderstood rage-monster to a more controlled and heroic figure. The scene with Banner and old security guard is supposed to be part of that as well, where Banner starts to believe he can trust Hulk. Also see #2.2) Loki wants to keep the Avengers out of his way at least long enough to set up the portal and perhaps during the invasion itself. It's not outright stated, but he seems to be using his staff to get them fighting each other with the goal of releasing Hulk. The scene when there are all arguing and Banner picks up the staff without even knowing suggests that the staff/Loki is influencing their actions. 3) It's mentioned in passing by Loki that Odin conjured dark energy to transport Thor to Earth. 4) There is no good answer to this.
 
saw it last night, really sweet. even the wife enjoyed it. and I drag her to alot of comic based stuff that is meh,

im assuming avengers 2 will have thanos as a villain.

I thought hulk vs Loki was hilliarious in stark tower
Just a question from a novice in Avenger's lore. Why Thanos? What's the thinking here? Why pick him as the next villain? Does he have some unique connection to the Avevengers? I've looked him up in The Marvel Encyclopedia and he has a small section, but no where near what I would think would be enough to make him a "main" villain. Just curious. Somebody that has followed The Avengers forever please answer.
He's one of the more powerful entities in the Marvel universe, so he's part of a small handful of villains that make sense for the Avengers.
and not sure why they would pick him. Sometimes the more God like Space beings do not translate well to the screen.

I have wondered why Iron mans villian hasnt been Mandarian yet.

A supervillian team ala - the masters of evil - Zemo, enchantress, ultron et. all would make more sense.

 
The Avengers are the greatest collection of super heroes ever assembled..... and a guy who uses a bow and arrow
Hawkeye is awesome. Don't be a hater.
:goodposting:
I think that if all the Avengers were essentially invulnerable, it'd be less interesting. Hawkeye offers a bit of a human component in contrast to all the superpowers.
How would you rank them based on effectivness ?
 
Took my son today to a 12pm show. No 3D.

Outstanding super hero movie. Hulk was awesome. Starks is great. And Black Widow was also great. The whole movie had great pacing, great acting, tremendous action sequences. It was a very good way to kick off the summer movie season.

Of course we saw the Amazing Spider Man preview as well as Dark Knight Rises. And my son was wide eyed through it all.

One of the best super hero movies ever made.

 
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Just got back and holy crap it was everything it was hyped to be. Like others said, they gave a great amount of time to each hero, VERY well done. I purposely didn't read much about it before going and had no idea it was going to be THAT funny. So many times I literally laughed out loud. Hulk and Stark were fantastic. But our theater must really suck because they didn't show a preview for Spiderman or Dark Knight. What gives??

 
Just got back and holy crap it was everything it was hyped to be. Like others said, they gave a great amount of time to each hero, VERY well done. I purposely didn't read much about it before going and had no idea it was going to be THAT funny. So many times I literally laughed out loud. Hulk and Stark were fantastic. But our theater must really suck because they didn't show a preview for Spiderman or Dark Knight. What gives??
The previews depend on the theater you are at. At our AMC they had both previews, but at Muvico they only had Dark Knight Rises.
 

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