The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (1 Viewer)

[matuski]

Jon Stewart's greatest talents are his facial expressions and an unparalleled delivery of four letter words. PROPAGANDA!!!!

 

[Flash]

Tonight he's talking about the Huckabee comments about the American foreign policy marching the Israeli's to "the oven door."

I'm sure some of you brainless far-righties can get on board with Huckabee. He reallllllllllly makes some sense doesn't he?

Oh he's a wack job alright, but what if he's right?

He wasn't talking about Americas Foreign Policy, he was talking about the deal with Iran and Iran leading the Israeli's to the oven door.

 

[Mario Kart]

Don't worry, some of you. He'll be off the air shortly and probably not heard from for some time. I'm not sure who you Righties will attack next but it won't be Stewart.

You guys think Rush or Hannity never went to the Bush White House secretly or had meetings outside the White House in a private manner? Please!

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Tonight he's talking about the Huckabee comments about the American foreign policy marching the Israeli's to "the oven door."

I'm sure some of you brainless far-righties can get on board with Huckabee. He reallllllllllly makes some sense doesn't he?

Oh he's a wack job alright, but what if he's right?

He wasn't talking about Americas Foreign Policy, he was talking about the deal with Iran and Iran leading the Israeli's to the oven door.

You don't think us negotiating a deal with Iran is foreign policy? What is it? Lunch with wine?

 

[Mister CIA]

Tonight he's talking about the Huckabee comments about the American foreign policy marching the Israeli's to "the oven door."

I'm sure some of you brainless far-righties can get on board with Huckabee. He reallllllllllly makes some sense doesn't he?

Oh he's a wack job alright, but what if he's right?

He wasn't talking about Americas Foreign Policy, he was talking about the deal with Iran and Iran leading the Israeli's to the oven door.

You don't think us negotiating a deal with Iran is foreign policy? What is it? Lunch with wine?

Holy Moly that was some bad #### you replied to.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Don't worry, some of you. He'll be off the air shortly and probably not heard from for some time. I'm not sure who you Righties will attack next but it won't be Stewart.

You guys think Rush or Hannity never went to the Bush White House secretly or had meetings outside the White House in a private manner? Please!

Well that's kind of the point here.

 

[Apple Jack]

So you're telling me a President attempted to curry favor with a journalist and...and...and tried to find out how an agenda might be received in advance of it being announced? I don't believe it!

Suggesting Stewart is a shill and master manipulator on the level of Ailes and Rush is saying stuff just to say stuff. He has made his disappointment with Obama known on a number of occasions. Obviously, Obama was looking for something they were on the same page on and tried to use him for positive spin that way. Every administration ever has done that. But because Stewart makes your team the butt of some genuinely funny jokes, while simultaneously exposing some #######s in the process, this is all of the sudden inappropriate?

 

[Homer J Simpson]

So you're telling me a President attempted to curry favor with a journalist and...and...and tried to find out how an agenda might be received in advance of it being announced? I don't believe it!

Suggesting Stewart is a shill and master manipulator on the level of Ailes and Rush is saying stuff just to say stuff. He has made his disappointment with Obama known on a number of occasions. Obviously, Obama was looking for something they were on the same page on and tried to use him for positive spin that way. Every administration ever has done that. But because Stewart makes your team the butt of some genuinely funny jokes, while simultaneously exposing some #######s in the process, this is all of the sudden inappropriate?

I see you've bought wholeheartedly into the Obama/Stewart propaganda machine.

 

[Apple Jack]

So you're telling me a President attempted to curry favor with a journalist and...and...and tried to find out how an agenda might be received in advance of it being announced? I don't believe it!

Suggesting Stewart is a shill and master manipulator on the level of Ailes and Rush is saying stuff just to say stuff. He has made his disappointment with Obama known on a number of occasions. Obviously, Obama was looking for something they were on the same page on and tried to use him for positive spin that way. Every administration ever has done that. But because Stewart makes your team the butt of some genuinely funny jokes, while simultaneously exposing some #######s in the process, this is all of the sudden inappropriate?

I see you've bought wholeheartedly into the Obama/Stewart propaganda machine.

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[Slapdash]

This guy jumped the shark a while ago. Glad he is going out before it gets even worse.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

at Fox News neglecting to mention that they found out about these "secret" meetings from the public Whitehouse log where Stewart's name was listed right alongside everyone else that had met with the president after he walked through the same front door that everyone else meeting with the president does.

So really, this news story should have been advertised as "Jon Stewart has meeting with the president and only openly bragged to his mother and friends about it but did not immediately call Fox News while he was in the Whitehouse and tell them what was going on as it happened".

I guess I "secretly" just got back from the gym.

 

[Hang 10]

at Fox News neglecting to mention that they found out about these "secret" meetings from the public Whitehouse log where Stewart's name was listed right alongside everyone else that had met with the president after he walked through the same front door that everyone else meeting with the president does.

So really, this news story should have been advertised as "Jon Stewart has meeting with the president and only openly bragged to his mother and friends about it but did not immediately call Fox News while he was in the Whitehouse and tell them what was going on as it happened".

I guess I "secretly" just got back from the gym.

It was a politico story.

 

[FUBAR]

So you're telling me a President attempted to curry favor with a journalist and...and...and tried to find out how an agenda might be received in advance of it being announced? I don't believe it!

Suggesting Stewart is a shill and master manipulator on the level of Ailes and Rush is saying stuff just to say stuff. He has made his disappointment with Obama known on a number of occasions. Obviously, Obama was looking for something they were on the same page on and tried to use him for positive spin that way. Every administration ever has done that. But because Stewart makes your team the butt of some genuinely funny jokes, while simultaneously exposing some #######s in the process, this is all of the sudden inappropriate?

Rush is a master manipulator? Maybe decades ago.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

More details on the secret meeting.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

More details on the secret meeting.

When the commentator becomes the story he's commenting on... well...

 

[Apple Jack]

More details on the secret meeting.

When the commentator becomes the story he's commenting on... well...

jfc

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

More details on the secret meeting.

When the commentator becomes the story he's commenting on... well...

jfc

AJ, whaddya want me to say. I like the guy, I think he's funny, I've enjoyed his show. He's a comedian. No, wait he's serious. He's insightful. He's just joking. jfc. Take him seriously. Don't. Ok.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

TDS predecessor: Not Necessarily The News.

 

[FUBAR]

like the best comedians, there's some degree of truth in what he says; or at least there's supposed to be.

 

[joffer]

More details on the secret meeting.

that whole episode was fantastic

 

[matuski]

like the best comedians, there's some degree of truth in what he says; or at least there's supposed to be.

Which is why these folks get so upset over it.

 

[Apple Jack]

like the best comedians, there's some degree of truth in what he says; or at least there's supposed to be.

Which is why these folks get so upset over it.

some also appear to find it very confusing.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

This guy jumped the shark a while ago. Glad he is going out before it gets even worse.

Bite your tongue.

Still awesome for sure.

 

[saintfool]

More details on the secret meeting.

When the commentator becomes the story he's commenting on... well...

please replace with "comedian" and "making jokes".

there was a time when that would get a 12-episode commitment from NBC/ABC/FOX and a 3 picture deal with Warner Bros but whatever.

 

[RC94]

More details on the secret meeting.

He's still not a cardiologist.

 

[bigbottom]

Newsflash - he's not an actual journalist, he's a comedian. But let's face it he plays both sides of the fence, he uses his wit and insight to act as pundit and "reporter" but call him to account for his lack of ethics and he says he's just a jester. - And the Amos'n'Andy routine as his single black shtick is really pathetic, he was right to be called out for it by a writer he was very happy speak for the show at the Emmys.

I hadn't heard about this story. Is it referring to Jon Stewart's Herman Cain impression being discussed here?:

[SIZE=12pt]http://youtu.be/15nCViATBrc[/SIZE]

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Newsflash - he's not an actual journalist, he's a comedian. But let's face it he plays both sides of the fence, he uses his wit and insight to act as pundit and "reporter" but call him to account for his lack of ethics and he says he's just a jester. - And the Amos'n'Andy routine as his single black shtick is really pathetic, he was right to be called out for it by a writer he was very happy speak for the show at the Emmys.

I hadn't heard about this story. Is it referring to Jon Stewart's Herman Cain impression being discussed here?:

[SIZE=12pt]http://youtu.be/15nCViATBrc[/SIZE]

It was the Cain bit but it's not about Cain's take, it's about the complaints from one of Stewart's writers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/arts/television/daily-show-writer-recalls-heated-dispute-with-jon-stewart.html?_r=0

Mr. Cenac compared Mr. Stewart’s impersonation to the Kingfish, a racially stereotyped character from “The Amos ’n’ Andy Show,” and said it struck him as “a little weird.”

...Mr. Cenac, who was at the time the only black writer on “The Daily Show,” said he felt disrespected. Though Mr. Cenac remained with the program for one more year, he said he was alienated and miserable and “never felt comfortable” during the remainder of his time there.

“I represent my community and I represent my people,” he said in the podcast. “And I’ve got to be honest if something seems questionable.”

 

[saintfool]

I'd be interested to hear Larry Wilmore's take on it as both a comedian and someone who worked with both of them.

 

[bigbottom]

Newsflash - he's not an actual journalist, he's a comedian. But let's face it he plays both sides of the fence, he uses his wit and insight to act as pundit and "reporter" but call him to account for his lack of ethics and he says he's just a jester. - And the Amos'n'Andy routine as his single black shtick is really pathetic, he was right to be called out for it by a writer he was very happy speak for the show at the Emmys.

I hadn't heard about this story. Is it referring to Jon Stewart's Herman Cain impression being discussed here?:

http://youtu.be/15nCViATBrc

It was the Cain bit but it's not about Cain's take, it's about the complaints from one of Stewart's writers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/arts/television/daily-show-writer-recalls-heated-dispute-with-jon-stewart.html?_r=0

Mr. Cenac compared Mr. Stewarts impersonation to the Kingfish, a racially stereotyped character from The Amos n Andy Show, and said it struck him as a little weird.

...Mr. Cenac, who was at the time the only black writer on The Daily Show, said he felt disrespected. Though Mr. Cenac remained with the program for one more year, he said he was alienated and miserable and never felt comfortable during the remainder of his time there.

I represent my community and I represent my people, he said in the podcast. And Ive got to be honest if something seems questionable.

Well, sure. But you asserted that Stewart should have been called out for his Cain impression. If that's the impression being referenced, I don't get it. If Cain doesn't want to be lampooned with an Amos and Andy character voice, he shouldn't give speeches in an Amos and Andy character voice.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

It was Cenac who was offended who confronted Stewart. The Kingfish "Deny the Allegator" shtick is one step past minstrel. If it's enough for Cenac it's enough for me.

 

[saintfool]

It was Cenac who was offended who confronted Stewart. The Kingfish "Deny the Allegator" shtick is one step past minstrel. If it's enough for Cenac it's enough for me.

other impressions that may have offended.

he's clearly not as good as Fred Travalena.

 

[Apple Jack]

just spotted that marc maron recently posted an episode with cenac. has anybody heard it?

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Four more episodes.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

It was Cenac who was offended who confronted Stewart. The Kingfish "Deny the Allegator" shtick is one step past minstrel. If it's enough for Cenac it's enough for me.

I like the "I've decided that something is racist because a black guy thinks it's racist" schtick. Usually you only see it with liberals, but occasionally a conservative will use it to try to prove a twisted point.

 

[Daywalker]

I'd imagine Stewart was more annoyed with some young kid, in his mind, referencing Amos N' Andy as if it was more then something he just read about in a college course.

Kingfish? Bet half the people in the room didn't know what he was talking about.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

It was Cenac who was offended who confronted Stewart. The Kingfish "Deny the Allegator" shtick is one step past minstrel. If it's enough for Cenac it's enough for me.

I like the "I've decided that something is racist because a black guy thinks it's racist" schtick. Usually you only see it with liberals, but occasionally a conservative will use it to try to prove a twisted point.

This is getting convoluted. BB was saying Cain has no right to be offended because he runs for office and that's what happens, yeah I agree. Stewart's also on tv, he should expect such criticism as well just like Cain, and I also think Cenac who worked with Stewart had a right to be offended. Yeah I have no problems with that stuff personally - bring back the old Bugs Bunny cartoons for kids and heck play Amos n' Andy on tv if you like (is there anything shtickier?), like you suggest people are way too sensitive - but Stewart's imitations, nearly all of them, are simplistic caricatures. I'm guessing Stewart would admit this. "Shtick" started out literally as old regular, caricaturish, Jewish borscht belt routines. And yeah i laugh at them. I laugh at shtick all the, we all do, but it is what it is.

 

[bigbottom]

It was Cenac who was offended who confronted Stewart. The Kingfish "Deny the Allegator" shtick is one step past minstrel. If it's enough for Cenac it's enough for me.

I like the "I've decided that something is racist because a black guy thinks it's racist" schtick. Usually you only see it with liberals, but occasionally a conservative will use it to try to prove a twisted point.

This is getting convoluted. BB was saying Cain has no right to be offended because he runs for office and that's what happens, yeah I agree.

That wasn't my point at all.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

It was Cenac who was offended who confronted Stewart. The Kingfish "Deny the Allegator" shtick is one step past minstrel. If it's enough for Cenac it's enough for me.

I like the "I've decided that something is racist because a black guy thinks it's racist" schtick. Usually you only see it with liberals, but occasionally a conservative will use it to try to prove a twisted point.

This is getting convoluted. BB was saying Cain has no right to be offended because he runs for office and that's what happens, yeah I agree.

That wasn't my point at all.

If Cain doesn't want to be lampooned with an Amos and Andy character voice, he shouldn't give speeches in an Amos and Andy character voice.

-?- You think he should talk differently?

 

[bigbottom]

It was Cenac who was offended who confronted Stewart. The Kingfish "Deny the Allegator" shtick is one step past minstrel. If it's enough for Cenac it's enough for me.

I like the "I've decided that something is racist because a black guy thinks it's racist" schtick. Usually you only see it with liberals, but occasionally a conservative will use it to try to prove a twisted point.

This is getting convoluted. BB was saying Cain has no right to be offended because he runs for office and that's what happens, yeah I agree.

That wasn't my point at all.

If Cain doesn't want to be lampooned with an Amos and Andy character voice, he shouldn't give speeches in an Amos and Andy character voice.

-?- You think he should talk differently?

Have you watched the video? He wasn't speaking in his normal speaking voice. He was speaking in an animated voice bordering on caricature. Stewart's impersonation was spot on, albeit exaggerated.

So yeah, if Cain doesn't want to be lampooned with an Amos and Andy character voice, he shouldn't give speeches in an Amos and Andy character voice.

Feel free to disagree, but I thought the point I was making was pretty clear and straightforward.

 

[TPW]

More details on the secret meeting.

When the commentator becomes the story he's commenting on... well...

please replace with "comedian" and "making jokes".

there was a time when that would get a 12-episode commitment from NBC/ABC/FOX and a 3 picture deal with Warner Bros but whatever.

How many White House visits did Johnny Carson, David Letterman, Jay Leno, Jimmy Kimmel, or Jimmy Fallon make to sit with the president and discuss policy?

The brilliance of Stewart's shtick is that he has been simultaneously been able to play himself off as "just a comedian" while actively pushing an agenda through satire. One in ten millenials trusted Stewart and Colbert more than any other outlet to provide them with information on current events. Those are not just acts. They're very effective information filters for low information hipsters who otherwise would be completely uninvolved in the political process.

 

[matuski]

More details on the secret meeting.

When the commentator becomes the story he's commenting on... well...

please replace with "comedian" and "making jokes".

there was a time when that would get a 12-episode commitment from NBC/ABC/FOX and a 3 picture deal with Warner Bros but whatever.

How many White House visits did Johnny Carson, David Letterman, Jay Leno, Jimmy Kimmel, or Jimmy Fallon make to sit with the president and discuss policy?

The brilliance of Stewart's shtick is that he has been simultaneously been able to play himself off as "just a comedian" while actively pushing an agenda through satire. One in ten millenials trusted Stewart and Colbert more than any other outlet to provide them with information on current events. Those are not just acts. They're very effective information filters for low information hipsters who otherwise would be completely uninvolved in the political process.

A quick google search shows that every one of those people have been to the white house.

I think you are on to something here.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

It was Cenac who was offended who confronted Stewart. The Kingfish "Deny the Allegator" shtick is one step past minstrel. If it's enough for Cenac it's enough for me.

I like the "I've decided that something is racist because a black guy thinks it's racist" schtick. Usually you only see it with liberals, but occasionally a conservative will use it to try to prove a twisted point.

This is getting convoluted. BB was saying Cain has no right to be offended because he runs for office and that's what happens, yeah I agree.

That wasn't my point at all.

If Cain doesn't want to be lampooned with an Amos and Andy character voice, he shouldn't give speeches in an Amos and Andy character voice.

-?- You think he should talk differently?

Have you watched the video? He wasn't speaking in his normal speaking voice. He was speaking in an animated voice bordering on caricature. Stewart's impersonation was spot on, albeit exaggerated.

So yeah, if Cain doesn't want to be lampooned with an Amos and Andy character voice, he shouldn't give speeches in an Amos and Andy character voice.

Feel free to disagree, but I thought the point I was making was pretty clear and straightforward.

I did listen to the Cain speech and the Stewart bit. I don't feel strongly or at all about Cain or the claim. My point to your original question was just to say that the issue that has come up was Cenac's reaction, not Cain's reaction. I personally think people are way too sensitive to everything today, but I just thought Cenac had grounds to raise it with Stewart if he felt that way. If you look at the link from saintool further up or we know just from watching Stewart he does things like 'the old man Jewish voice', etc. I may have personally been too strong in saying it was "pathetic" (ok) but still it's of an order that I can see the lone black writer walking up and saying that's out of line. It's yes a caricature of a black man who talks like he talks, but it's also kind of crazy for us to dither over stuff here that Cenac and Stewart themselves have likely patched over.

 

[bigbottom]

It was Cenac who was offended who confronted Stewart. The Kingfish "Deny the Allegator" shtick is one step past minstrel. If it's enough for Cenac it's enough for me.

I like the "I've decided that something is racist because a black guy thinks it's racist" schtick. Usually you only see it with liberals, but occasionally a conservative will use it to try to prove a twisted point.

This is getting convoluted. BB was saying Cain has no right to be offended because he runs for office and that's what happens, yeah I agree.

That wasn't my point at all.

If Cain doesn't want to be lampooned with an Amos and Andy character voice, he shouldn't give speeches in an Amos and Andy character voice.

-?- You think he should talk differently?

Have you watched the video? He wasn't speaking in his normal speaking voice. He was speaking in an animated voice bordering on caricature. Stewart's impersonation was spot on, albeit exaggerated.So yeah, if Cain doesn't want to be lampooned with an Amos and Andy character voice, he shouldn't give speeches in an Amos and Andy character voice.

Feel free to disagree, but I thought the point I was making was pretty clear and straightforward.

I did listen to the Cain speech and the Stewart bit. I don't feel strongly or at all about Cain or the claim. My point to your original question was just to say that the issue that has come up was Cenac's reaction, not Cain's reaction. I personally think people are way too sensitive to everything today, but I just thought Cenac had grounds to raise it with Stewart if he felt that way. If you look at the link from saintool further up or we know just from watching Stewart he does things like 'the old man Jewish voice', etc. I may have personally been too strong in saying it was "pathetic" (ok) but still it's of an order that I can see the lone black writer walking up and saying that's out of line. It's yes a caricature of a black man who talks like he talks, but it's also kind of crazy for us to dither over stuff here that Cenac and Stewart themselves have likely patched over.

Right. I was responding to your assertion that Stewart's bit was pathetic and that he deserved to be called out for it. After watching the bit, I didn't see how it was that big of a deal and I simply disagreed with your underlying assertion. It sounds like we may be more in agreement than your initial post suggests.

As for what went down between Stewart and Cenac, I don't really have an opinion, other than to say that I'm not terribly surprised that a celebrity host would be a #### toward someone on his staff.

 

[roadkill1292]

That Obummer is one sneaky dude.

 

[dparker713]

More details on the secret meeting.

When the commentator becomes the story he's commenting on... well...

please replace with "comedian" and "making jokes".

there was a time when that would get a 12-episode commitment from NBC/ABC/FOX and a 3 picture deal with Warner Bros but whatever.

How many White House visits did Johnny Carson, David Letterman, Jay Leno, Jimmy Kimmel, or Jimmy Fallon make to sit with the president and discuss policy?

The brilliance of Stewart's shtick is that he has been simultaneously been able to play himself off as "just a comedian" while actively pushing an agenda through satire. One in ten millenials trusted Stewart and Colbert more than any other outlet to provide them with information on current events. Those are not just acts. They're very effective information filters for low information hipsters who otherwise would be completely uninvolved in the political process.

Wait, those other outlets aren't comedic? Then why do they have a never ending parade of baffoons on the air?

 

[saintfool]

How many White House visits did Johnny Carson, David Letterman, Jay Leno, Jimmy Kimmel, or Jimmy Fallon make to sit with the president and discuss policy?

how many times did any of those performers engage in thoughtful, substantive discussions on policy or other social issues? **** cavett was capable of it back in the day but he didn't have the freedom to indulge himself (or his audience) like that. could anyone here imagine a conversation about "policy" with any of hosts?

 

[3C's]

It was Cenac who was offended who confronted Stewart. The Kingfish "Deny the Allegator" shtick is one step past minstrel. If it's enough for Cenac it's enough for me.

I like the "I've decided that something is racist because a black guy thinks it's racist" schtick. Usually you only see it with liberals, but occasionally a conservative will use it to try to prove a twisted point.

This is getting convoluted. BB was saying Cain has no right to be offended because he runs for office and that's what happens, yeah I agree.

That wasn't my point at all.

If Cain doesn't want to be lampooned with an Amos and Andy character voice, he shouldn't give speeches in an Amos and Andy character voice.

-?- You think he should talk differently?

Have you watched the video? He wasn't speaking in his normal speaking voice. He was speaking in an animated voice bordering on caricature. Stewart's impersonation was spot on, albeit exaggerated.

So yeah, if Cain doesn't want to be lampooned with an Amos and Andy character voice, he shouldn't give speeches in an Amos and Andy character voice.

Feel free to disagree, but I thought the point I was making was pretty clear and straightforward.

I did listen to the Cain speech and the Stewart bit. I don't feel strongly or at all about Cain or the claim. My point to your original question was just to say that the issue that has come up was Cenac's reaction, not Cain's reaction. I personally think people are way too sensitive to everything today, but I just thought Cenac had grounds to raise it with Stewart if he felt that way. If you look at the link from saintool further up or we know just from watching Stewart he does things like 'the old man Jewish voice', etc. I may have personally been too strong in saying it was "pathetic" (ok) but still it's of an order that I can see the lone black writer walking up and saying that's out of line. It's yes a caricature of a black man who talks like he talks, but it's also kind of crazy for us to dither over stuff here that Cenac and Stewart themselves have likely patched over.

Awww shucky ducky!

 

[GregR]

I wouldn't like the thought of a comedian coordinating his routines with a political party's agenda. Which I don't know if that happened with Stewart. I probably tend to believe it didn't.

That said... the example that keeps being brought up is Stewart's bit on Putin.

I don't know if Obama asked Stewart for help with Putin. But frankly and with probably very few exceptions, if POTUS asked any American citizen for help in such fashion (i.e. doing his job pretty much exactly how he might have anyway) against an obvious foreign threat like Putin, I'd be pretty damn pissed if they turned the President down.

 

[Joe Summer]

How many White House visits did Johnny Carson, David Letterman, Jay Leno, Jimmy Kimmel, or Jimmy Fallon make to sit with the president and discuss policy?

Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon and David Letterman all visited the White House in 2012.

Jay Leno is not mentioned on the visitor's log, but his wife Mavis is.

 

[urbanhack]

drops mic