The Dez Bryant Pro Day Watch Thread (1 Viewer)

[SPM]

Mike Williams 2.0Big? CheckGreat Hands? CheckBody Control? CheckSat out a year? CheckQuestionable Character? CheckSlooooow? CheckMirror images of each other. Watch film of Mike Williams from college, it's the same as Dez Bryants.Good luck to whatever team drafts this epic bust prospect.

This is silly.Big? Mike Williams was tight end big. And by "big" I mean fat. Dez is 218 lbs of muscle.Sat out a year? Mike Williams did it because he was an idiot who hired an agent and then tried to back out of the draft. Dez was forced to because of some idiot named Deion Sanders.Slow? I'm of the opinion that 40 time does not make a player. Bryant plays much faster than this. He's such a fluid, smooth runner with the football in his hands, that it makes up for his lack of elite speed.Questionable character? Maybe.....but there have been elite guys (Moss, TO) with character issues. This does not kill a player.Body Control? The only body control BMW had was how large he could make it by pulling his chair up to the buffet at Sizzler.You clearly do not like Dez, but I really do not get this comparison.

ridiculous comparison

 

[Yitbos69]

i dont think he's as fast as many thought he was. he probably would have been in the 4.6s at the combine.

How fast is Brandon Marshall? 4.4? 4.5?

I believe he was a 4.7 at the combine.

4.57 was his Combine 40 time

 

[PranksterJD]

Mike Williams 2.0Big? CheckGreat Hands? CheckBody Control? CheckSat out a year? CheckQuestionable Character? CheckSlooooow? CheckMirror images of each other. Watch film of Mike Williams from college, it's the same as Dez Bryants.Good luck to whatever team drafts this epic bust prospect.

This is silly.Big? Mike Williams was tight end big. And by "big" I mean fat. Dez is 218 lbs of muscle.Sat out a year? Mike Williams did it because he was an idiot who hired an agent and then tried to back out of the draft. Dez was forced to because of some idiot named Deion Sanders.Slow? I'm of the opinion that 40 time does not make a player. Bryant plays much faster than this. He's such a fluid, smooth runner with the football in his hands, that it makes up for his lack of elite speed.Questionable character? Maybe.....but there have been elite guys (Moss, TO) with character issues. This does not kill a player.Body Control? The only body control BMW had was how large he could make it by pulling his chair up to the buffet at Sizzler.You clearly do not like Dez, but I really do not get this comparison.

ridiculous comparison

Maybe so, but its far from the first time I've heard it.

 

[JD8p]

i dont think he's as fast as many thought he was. he probably would have been in the 4.6s at the combine.

How fast is Brandon Marshall? 4.4? 4.5?

I believe he was a 4.7 at the combine.

Marshall ran a 4.52...measured 6'4 1/2" and 229 pounds.

 

[EBF]

Mike Williams 2.0Big? CheckGreat Hands? CheckBody Control? CheckSat out a year? CheckQuestionable Character? CheckSlooooow? CheckMirror images of each other. Watch film of Mike Williams from college, it's the same as Dez Bryants.Good luck to whatever team drafts this epic bust prospect.

Not even close from a talent perspective. 4.4 would've been nice, but 4.5 is fine given his build and playing style. He was never known as a burner.

 

[doowain]

i dont think he's as fast as many thought he was. he probably would have been in the 4.6s at the combine.

How fast is Brandon Marshall? 4.4? 4.5?

I believe he was a 4.7 at the combine.

4.57 was his Combine 40 time

Actually, it was 4.52....NFL Draft Scout Profile

Interestingly, the same time as Dez.

 

[lynx4ben]

UPDATE: A few more Bryant numbers to pass along. He measured in at 6-foot-1 1/2 and 224 pounds, and he had a 38-inch vertical and an 11-foot-1 broad jump. Due to the hand-held times at workouts, you'll see 40-yard dash times between 4.49 and 4.60 for Bryant.

Well his broad jump is off the charts. Not sure that means anything but 11 feet is phenomenal.

 

[doowain]

UPDATE: A few more Bryant numbers to pass along. He measured in at 6-foot-1 1/2 and 224 pounds, and he had a 38-inch vertical and an 11-foot-1 broad jump. Due to the hand-held times at workouts, you'll see 40-yard dash times between 4.49 and 4.60 for Bryant.

Well his broad jump is off the charts. Not sure that means anything but 11 feet is phenomenal.

It's supposed to test explosiveness and that translates considering his open field skills vs. top end speed.

 

[Yitbos69]

i dont think he's as fast as many thought he was. he probably would have been in the 4.6s at the combine.

How fast is Brandon Marshall? 4.4? 4.5?

I believe he was a 4.7 at the combine.

4.57 was his Combine 40 time

Actually, it was 4.52....NFL Draft Scout Profile

Interestingly, the same time as Dez.

Marshal 6'4 1/2" Dez 6'1 1/2".....big difference in the size of these two guys..but maybe Dez is not only faster than he runs but taller than he measures and stronger too...edit to add link to the 4.57 time

http://www.thehuddle.com/nfl/2006/nfl-combine-results.php

 

[JD8p]

UPDATE: A few more Bryant numbers to pass along. He measured in at 6-foot-1 1/2 and 224 pounds, and he had a 38-inch vertical and an 11-foot-1 broad jump. Due to the hand-held times at workouts, you'll see 40-yard dash times between 4.49 and 4.60 for Bryant.

Well his broad jump is off the charts. Not sure that means anything but 11 feet is phenomenal.

It's supposed to test explosiveness and that translates considering his open field skills vs. top end speed.

Is your name Deion, by chance?

 

[moderated]

Mike Williams 2.0Big? CheckGreat Hands? CheckBody Control? CheckSat out a year? CheckQuestionable Character? CheckSlooooow? CheckMirror images of each other. Watch film of Mike Williams from college, it's the same as Dez Bryants.Good luck to whatever team drafts this epic bust prospect.

Not even close from a talent perspective. 4.4 would've been nice, but 4.5 is fine given his build and playing style. He was never known as a burner.

You're looking at it in retrospect.Mike Williams was thought of as every bit the talent Dez is now back in 2004, that is why he got drafted in the top 10 even after sitting a year. :X at those who think Dez is some once in a lifetime talent. He's a knucklehead without a good work ethic who has marginal measurables.

 

[EBF]

Mike Williams 2.0

Big? Check

Great Hands? Check

Body Control? Check

Sat out a year? Check

Questionable Character? Check

Slooooow? Check

Mirror images of each other. Watch film of Mike Williams from college, it's the same as Dez Bryants.

Good luck to whatever team drafts this epic bust prospect.

Not even close from a talent perspective.

4.4 would've been nice, but 4.5 is fine given his build and playing style. He was never known as a burner.

You're looking at it in retrospect.Mike Williams was thought of as every bit the talent Dez is now back in 2004, that is why he got drafted in the top 10 even after sitting a year.

at those who think Dez is some once in a lifetime talent. He's a knucklehead without a good work ethic who has marginal measurables.

No. Mike Williams was always slow. He was so slow that teams were talking about converting him to TE before he was even drafted. He was a big, plodding runner who used brute strength to overpower inferior competition at the college level. He was not a great pro prospect despite what the Lions thought.I don't think anyone has said Dez is a once in a lifetime talent. Most people agree that he's one of the top 1-2 WRs in this draft. I'm certainly on board with that thinking and I like him more than recent top ten picks like Braylon Edwards and Roy Williams at the same stage of their careers. He has plenty of talent to be successful in the NFL if he works hard.

Regarding the work ethic stuff, it's hard to tell the smoke from the fire at this point. This is the time of year when character issues mysteriously crop up about every top player in the draft. At this time last year everyone was chirping about Crabtree's lack of character/speed while saying Harvin was a cancer who couldn't handle the pressures of the NFL.

If Dez works hard, he will be a solid top 10-15 dynasty WR. I don't know if he's going to work hard, but I do know that he has difference-maker talent, which is more than can be said for all but 2-3 other rookies in this draft class.

 

[doowain]

Mike Williams 2.0

Big? Check

Great Hands? Check

Body Control? Check

Sat out a year? Check

Questionable Character? Check

Slooooow? Check

Mirror images of each other. Watch film of Mike Williams from college, it's the same as Dez Bryants.

Good luck to whatever team drafts this epic bust prospect.

Not even close from a talent perspective.

4.4 would've been nice, but 4.5 is fine given his build and playing style. He was never known as a burner.

You're looking at it in retrospect.Mike Williams was thought of as every bit the talent Dez is now back in 2004, that is why he got drafted in the top 10 even after sitting a year.

at those who think Dez is some once in a lifetime talent. He's a knucklehead without a good work ethic who has marginal measurables.

No. Mike Williams was always slow. He was so slow that teams were talking about converting him to TE before he was even drafted. He was a big, plodding runner who used brute strength to overpower inferior competition at the college level. He was not a great pro prospect despite what the Lions thought.I don't think anyone has said Dez is a once in a lifetime talent. Most people agree that he's one of the top 1-2 WRs in this draft. I'm certainly on board with that thinking and I like him more than recent top ten picks like Braylon Edwards and Roy Williams at the same stage of their careers. He has plenty of talent to be successful in the NFL if he works hard.

Regarding the work ethic stuff, it's hard to tell the smoke from the fire at this point. This is the time of year when character issues mysteriously crop up about every top player in the draft. At this time last year everyone was chirping about Crabtree's lack of character/speed while saying Harvin was a cancer who couldn't handle the pressures of the NFL.

If Dez works hard, he will be a solid top 10-15 dynasty WR. I don't know if he's going to work hard, but I do know that he has difference-maker talent, which is more than can be said for all but 2-3 other rookies in this draft class.

These same stories were there about Percy Harvin too. Then all he did was go out and win Rookie of the Year.

 

[Kirby]

Mike Williams 2.0

Big? Check

Great Hands? Check

Body Control? Check

Sat out a year? Check

Questionable Character? Check

Slooooow? Check

Mirror images of each other. Watch film of Mike Williams from college, it's the same as Dez Bryants.

Good luck to whatever team drafts this epic bust prospect.

Not even close from a talent perspective.

4.4 would've been nice, but 4.5 is fine given his build and playing style. He was never known as a burner.

You're looking at it in retrospect.Mike Williams was thought of as every bit the talent Dez is now back in 2004, that is why he got drafted in the top 10 even after sitting a year.

at those who think Dez is some once in a lifetime talent. He's a knucklehead without a good work ethic who has marginal measurables.

haters gonna hate

 

[identikit]

From Profootballtalk:

Dez Bryant forgot his cleats

Posted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2010 3:01 PM ET

As it turns out, Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant showed up on time for his Pro Day workout.

His cleats, however, didn't make the trip.

We're told that Bryant forgot to bring his cleats, and that as a result he had to wear a pair of brand-new shoes, which had not properly been broken in.

As a result, Bryant was slipping, as NFLN's Mike Mayock pointed out when discussing the workout on the air.

Per a league source, at least one team measured Bryant's times in the 40-yard dash at 4.57 and 4.62 seconds, within the 4.52 to 4.68 range reported by NFL.com. He presumably would have run faster, but for the slipping.

 

[B. Nugget]

I'm not saying Dez is Marshal v2.0, but they play a similar style of WR and have roughly the same speed/frame with Marshall obviously being taller.

This isn't Randy Moss or Sidney Rice here, Dez is a big guy!

 

[fruity pebbles]

From Profootballtalkez Bryant forgot his cleatsPosted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2010 3:01 PM ETAs it turns out, Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant showed up on time for his Pro Day workout.His cleats, however, didn't make the trip.We're told that Bryant forgot to bring his cleats, and that as a result he had to wear a pair of brand-new shoes, which had not properly been broken in.As a result, Bryant was slipping, as NFLN's Mike Mayock pointed out when discussing the workout on the air.Per a league source, at least one team measured Bryant's times in the 40-yard dash at 4.57 and 4.62 seconds, within the 4.52 to 4.68 range reported by NFL.com. He presumably would have run faster, but for the slipping.

not sure if this a good thing or a bad thing. biggest day of your life in which you can cement several million extra dollars for yourself and you forget your running shoes?

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

I have the 1.03 in a rookie draft and will be sick if he's the one there.

He was obviously out of shape. What does it mean he couldn't finish the 3 cone drill? Seriously I dont know.

The hype you were expecting is NOT going to happen. I see his stock dropping bigtime.

 

[offdee]

From Profootballtalkez Bryant forgot his cleatsPosted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2010 3:01 PM ETAs it turns out, Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant showed up on time for his Pro Day workout.His cleats, however, didn't make the trip.We're told that Bryant forgot to bring his cleats, and that as a result he had to wear a pair of brand-new shoes, which had not properly been broken in.As a result, Bryant was slipping, as NFLN's Mike Mayock pointed out when discussing the workout on the air.Per a league source, at least one team measured Bryant's times in the 40-yard dash at 4.57 and 4.62 seconds, within the 4.52 to 4.68 range reported by NFL.com. He presumably would have run faster, but for the slipping.

So ridiculous. Biggest day to date of his career and he comes unprepared with something so crucial to his performance? This story is probably thrown out there by his PR reps to give some excuses to the times, but to me it throws up a red flag in the knucklehead factor. Dude is a mega-talent but just doesn't seem to "get it" when it comes to responsibilities and accountability.

 

[Orgazmo]

From Profootballtalkez Bryant forgot his cleatsPosted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2010 3:01 PM ETAs it turns out, Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant showed up on time for his Pro Day workout.His cleats, however, didn't make the trip.We're told that Bryant forgot to bring his cleats, and that as a result he had to wear a pair of brand-new shoes, which had not properly been broken in.As a result, Bryant was slipping, as NFLN's Mike Mayock pointed out when discussing the workout on the air.Per a league source, at least one team measured Bryant's times in the 40-yard dash at 4.57 and 4.62 seconds, within the 4.52 to 4.68 range reported by NFL.com. He presumably would have run faster, but for the slipping.

not sure if this a good thing or a bad thing. biggest day of your life in which you can cement several million extra dollars for yourself and you forget your running shoes?

Didn't Calvin Johnson do this same thing?

He wasn't planning to run at the combine, and then felt competitive and borrowed someone's shoes so he could.

 

[offdee]

From Profootballtalkez Bryant forgot his cleatsPosted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2010 3:01 PM ETAs it turns out, Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant showed up on time for his Pro Day workout.His cleats, however, didn't make the trip.We're told that Bryant forgot to bring his cleats, and that as a result he had to wear a pair of brand-new shoes, which had not properly been broken in.As a result, Bryant was slipping, as NFLN's Mike Mayock pointed out when discussing the workout on the air.Per a league source, at least one team measured Bryant's times in the 40-yard dash at 4.57 and 4.62 seconds, within the 4.52 to 4.68 range reported by NFL.com. He presumably would have run faster, but for the slipping.

not sure if this a good thing or a bad thing. biggest day of your life in which you can cement several million extra dollars for yourself and you forget your running shoes?

Didn't Calvin Johnson do this same thing?

Difference is Calvin didn't claim it after the fact as a built in excuse for a poor performance. Calvin took some random shoes and ripped it.

 

[doowain]

From Profootballtalkez Bryant forgot his cleatsPosted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2010 3:01 PM ETAs it turns out, Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant showed up on time for his Pro Day workout.His cleats, however, didn't make the trip.We're told that Bryant forgot to bring his cleats, and that as a result he had to wear a pair of brand-new shoes, which had not properly been broken in.As a result, Bryant was slipping, as NFLN's Mike Mayock pointed out when discussing the workout on the air.Per a league source, at least one team measured Bryant's times in the 40-yard dash at 4.57 and 4.62 seconds, within the 4.52 to 4.68 range reported by NFL.com. He presumably would have run faster, but for the slipping.

not sure if this a good thing or a bad thing. biggest day of your life in which you can cement several million extra dollars for yourself and you forget your running shoes?

So ridiculous. Biggest day to date of his career and he comes unprepared with something so crucial to his performance? This story is probably thrown out there by his PR reps to give some excuses to the times, but to me it throws up a red flag in the knucklehead factor. Dude is a mega-talent but just doesn't seem to "get it" when it comes to responsibilities and accountability.

Didn't Calvin Johnson do this same thing?Does that make him a knucklehead and that he doesn't "get it"?

 

[doowain]

From Profootballtalkez Bryant forgot his cleatsPosted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2010 3:01 PM ETAs it turns out, Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant showed up on time for his Pro Day workout.His cleats, however, didn't make the trip.We're told that Bryant forgot to bring his cleats, and that as a result he had to wear a pair of brand-new shoes, which had not properly been broken in.As a result, Bryant was slipping, as NFLN's Mike Mayock pointed out when discussing the workout on the air.Per a league source, at least one team measured Bryant's times in the 40-yard dash at 4.57 and 4.62 seconds, within the 4.52 to 4.68 range reported by NFL.com. He presumably would have run faster, but for the slipping.

not sure if this a good thing or a bad thing. biggest day of your life in which you can cement several million extra dollars for yourself and you forget your running shoes?

Didn't Calvin Johnson do this same thing?

Difference is Calvin didn't claim it after the fact as a built in excuse for a poor performance. Calvin took some random shoes and ripped it.

I didn't say it was excusable, just that it happens....and it also happened to Calvin.So it comes back to him not having a great 40 time. Don't make it about him forgetting the shoes then is all I'm saying.

 

[gianmarco]

No, he didn't bring his shoes because he wasn't going to run. While there he said "$@#% it", used another pair of shoes, and still ran a 4.35. Big difference, IMO, both for the reasons for not having shoes as well as the excuses as a result.

It's obvious you love Dez Bryant and there's good reason to, but the guy could have come in, flipped everyone off and walked out without doing anything and I still don't think you'd be discouraged about what he'll do.

For others that are using these types of performances to form a better opinion, none of the things that happened today are very positive. Some can definitely be construed as negative.

 

[identikit]

IIRC Calvin didn't plan to run (due to injury) then decided to on the spur of the moment, borrowing someone elses' cleats.

 

[fruity pebbles]

From Profootballtalkez Bryant forgot his cleatsPosted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2010 3:01 PM ETAs it turns out, Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant showed up on time for his Pro Day workout.His cleats, however, didn't make the trip.We're told that Bryant forgot to bring his cleats, and that as a result he had to wear a pair of brand-new shoes, which had not properly been broken in.As a result, Bryant was slipping, as NFLN's Mike Mayock pointed out when discussing the workout on the air.Per a league source, at least one team measured Bryant's times in the 40-yard dash at 4.57 and 4.62 seconds, within the 4.52 to 4.68 range reported by NFL.com. He presumably would have run faster, but for the slipping.

not sure if this a good thing or a bad thing. biggest day of your life in which you can cement several million extra dollars for yourself and you forget your running shoes?

So ridiculous. Biggest day to date of his career and he comes unprepared with something so crucial to his performance? This story is probably thrown out there by his PR reps to give some excuses to the times, but to me it throws up a red flag in the knucklehead factor. Dude is a mega-talent but just doesn't seem to "get it" when it comes to responsibilities and accountability.

Didn't Calvin Johnson do this same thing?Does that make him a knucklehead and that he doesn't "get it"?

No, Calvin wasnt planning to run so no need to bring the shoes. He didn't forget them.

 

[doowain]

IIRC Calvin didn't plan to run (due to injury) then decided to on the spur of the moment, borrowing someone elses' cleats.

Gotcha. Memory was a little fuzzy to the specifics.

 

[offdee]

From Profootballtalkez Bryant forgot his cleatsPosted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2010 3:01 PM ETAs it turns out, Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant showed up on time for his Pro Day workout.His cleats, however, didn't make the trip.We're told that Bryant forgot to bring his cleats, and that as a result he had to wear a pair of brand-new shoes, which had not properly been broken in.As a result, Bryant was slipping, as NFLN's Mike Mayock pointed out when discussing the workout on the air.Per a league source, at least one team measured Bryant's times in the 40-yard dash at 4.57 and 4.62 seconds, within the 4.52 to 4.68 range reported by NFL.com. He presumably would have run faster, but for the slipping.

not sure if this a good thing or a bad thing. biggest day of your life in which you can cement several million extra dollars for yourself and you forget your running shoes?

So ridiculous. Biggest day to date of his career and he comes unprepared with something so crucial to his performance? This story is probably thrown out there by his PR reps to give some excuses to the times, but to me it throws up a red flag in the knucklehead factor. Dude is a mega-talent but just doesn't seem to "get it" when it comes to responsibilities and accountability.

Didn't Calvin Johnson do this same thing?Does that make him a knucklehead and that he doesn't "get it"?

This is just one of the many questionable issues with Dez lately.Some of my leaguemates can back me up on this comment, but I said after the first couple weeks of this past season watching him something seemed different. 2 years ago, he seemed determined to dominate and prove he was the best on the field. This past season I feel like the hype got to him a bit....he seemed to lack that extra fire on the field, some mental lapses in concentration, and more or less felt privileged to get every call and play to go his way...almost a "do you know who I am?" attitude.Shortly after that he gets suspended for the year and haven't really seen a positive story on him since that time (with multiple reports that he was never on time to meetings and randomly just didn't show up to practice).I'm as big of a fan of Dez as any and hope he suceeds, but my eyes showed me a different Dez over the course of the past year where I now question his impact at the next level if he doesn't get his head back to where it was 2 years ago.-----------------Edit to add I found my comment posted to my league on 10/1/09 (10/7/09 the news came out about him being suspended for the year)- Dez Bryant: The real deal. Should be a top 10 pick. My only worry with him is he seems to have a little different attitude this year...last year was a confident "I'm gonna show the world what I can do" swagger. This year it seems to be more one of a "do you know who I am?" kind of attitude and is expecting everything to just be handed to him on a silver platter...I hope he stays hungry and has that constant will to keep improving his game and not just rely on his present physical attributes to carry him.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

UPDATE: A few more Bryant numbers to pass along. He measured in at 6-foot-1 1/2 and 224 pounds, and he had a 38-inch vertical and an 11-foot-1 broad jump. Due to the hand-held times at workouts, you'll see 40-yard dash times between 4.49 and 4.60 for Bryant.

So a 4.52 40, 38 inch vertical, 11 foot 1 broad, and 6'1.5", 224 lbs. If his name weren't Bryant, people would be going nuts over those numbers. Somehow, that's become a disppointment for Bryant?

 

[jurb26]

I just have one question. In what world was Dez running in the 4.5s expected? I don't think anyone was expecting anything outside of he 4.4s for him and hell the overly optimistic where thinking he could break into the 4.3s.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Mike Williams 2.0

Big? Check

Great Hands? Check

Body Control? Check

Sat out a year? Check

Questionable Character? Check

Slooooow? Check

Mirror images of each other. Watch film of Mike Williams from college, it's the same as Dez Bryants.

Good luck to whatever team drafts this epic bust prospect.

Not even close from a talent perspective.

4.4 would've been nice, but 4.5 is fine given his build and playing style. He was never known as a burner.

You're looking at it in retrospect.Mike Williams was thought of as every bit the talent Dez is now back in 2004, that is why he got drafted in the top 10 even after sitting a year.

at those who think Dez is some once in a lifetime talent. He's a knucklehead without a good work ethic who has marginal measurables.

No. Mike Williams was always slow. He was so slow that teams were talking about converting him to TE before he was even drafted. He was a big, plodding runner who used brute strength to overpower inferior competition at the college level. He was not a great pro prospect despite what the Lions thought.I don't think anyone has said Dez is a once in a lifetime talent. Most people agree that he's one of the top 1-2 WRs in this draft. I'm certainly on board with that thinking and I like him more than recent top ten picks like Braylon Edwards and Roy Williams at the same stage of their careers. He has plenty of talent to be successful in the NFL if he works hard.

Regarding the work ethic stuff, it's hard to tell the smoke from the fire at this point. This is the time of year when character issues mysteriously crop up about every top player in the draft. At this time last year everyone was chirping about Crabtree's lack of character/speed while saying Harvin was a cancer who couldn't handle the pressures of the NFL.

If Dez works hard, he will be a solid top 10-15 dynasty WR. I don't know if he's going to work hard, but I do know that he has difference-maker talent, which is more than can be said for all but 2-3 other rookies in this draft class.

These same stories were there about Percy Harvin too. Then all he did was go out and win Rookie of the Year.

I don't think anyone has ever said Harvin had a poor work ethic.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Honestly...that's like me showing up to a meeting where I'm scheduled to present without my laptop. In terms of his checklist it should have been something like this.

Shoes - Check

Legs - Check

Everything Else - Check

Flaky.

 

[offdee]

I just have one question. In what world was Dez running in the 4.5s expected? I don't think anyone was expecting anything outside of he 4.4s for him and hell the overly optimistic where thinking he could break into the 4.3s.

I guess I didn't have any preconceived times in my head, but low 4.5's seem about right from what I saw on the field. Anything in the 4.4's or faster I would've been shocked by.So, I guess you could say that his workout wasn't a disappointment or a success from my personal point of view...right in line with expectations.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

UPDATE: A few more Bryant numbers to pass along. He measured in at 6-foot-1 1/2 and 224 pounds, and he had a 38-inch vertical and an 11-foot-1 broad jump. Due to the hand-held times at workouts, you'll see 40-yard dash times between 4.49 and 4.60 for Bryant.

So a 4.52 40, 38 inch vertical, 11 foot 1 broad, and 6'1.5", 224 lbs. If his name weren't Bryant, people would be going nuts over those numbers. Somehow, that's become a disppointment for Bryant?

Love how you put the best time and forgot the othersPlus in a recent article he said he wanted to be in awesome shape and at the combine he would have weighed 225 but now he weighted 220. Looks like he gained weight again.. This guy a LAZY wriiten all over him...I'll Pass

 

[TheDirtyWord]

UPDATE: A few more Bryant numbers to pass along. He measured in at 6-foot-1 1/2 and 224 pounds, and he had a 38-inch vertical and an 11-foot-1 broad jump. Due to the hand-held times at workouts, you'll see 40-yard dash times between 4.49 and 4.60 for Bryant.

So a 4.52 40, 38 inch vertical, 11 foot 1 broad, and 6'1.5", 224 lbs. If his name weren't Bryant, people would be going nuts over those numbers. Somehow, that's become a disppointment for Bryant?

I don't remember people going nuts when Benn broke 4.4 at his workouts at 6'1 220 with a 37 inch vertical.

 

[lynx4ben]

I just have one question. In what world was Dez running in the 4.5s expected? I don't think anyone was expecting anything outside of he 4.4s for him and hell the overly optimistic where thinking he could break into the 4.3s.

Until the 4.3 rumor I was running under the assumption he would run low 4.5s. I figured best case was 4.48 worst was 4.58. The bigger question to me is why couldn't he finish the other drills?

 

[doowain]

These same stories were there about Percy Harvin too. Then all he did was go out and win Rookie of the Year.

I don't think anyone has ever said Harvin had a poor work ethic.

I was referring to the "character concern" stories that emerged leading up to the draft. Did you seriously miss those?

 

[noneother]

just saw an espn rss that said he'll fall out of the "Top Half of the first round"...

hmmm.... still sounds good for Fantasy guys... maybe not for Dez's bank account.. kid needs a handler ASAP...

 

[jurb26]

just saw an espn rss that said he'll fall out of the "Top Half of the first round"...hmmm.... still sounds good for Fantasy guys... maybe not for Dez's bank account.. kid needs a handler ASAP...

There is no doubt that Dez is going to fall in the draft. Not playing football all season will cause that. There could be a silver lining to that though. Maybe he gets drafted into a great organization because of it.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

he benched 14 reps of 225 and QUIT even though it appeared he could do more.

 

[39407]

Honestly...that's like me showing up to a meeting where I'm scheduled to present without my laptop. In terms of his checklist it should have been something like this.Shoes - CheckLegs - CheckEverything Else - CheckFlaky.

Maybe Deion was in charge of the shoes?

 

[Jason Wood]

I want NOTHING to do with this guy, either for my team (which obviously PHI isn't going to get him) or my fantasy squad.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I just have one question. In what world was Dez running in the 4.5s expected? I don't think anyone was expecting anything outside of he 4.4s for him and hell the overly optimistic where thinking he could break into the 4.3s.

I never heard anything other than 4.5s being expected.

 

[DesmondBishop]

UPDATE: A few more Bryant numbers to pass along. He measured in at 6-foot-1 1/2 and 224 pounds, and he had a 38-inch vertical and an 11-foot-1 broad jump. Due to the hand-held times at workouts, you'll see 40-yard dash times between 4.49 and 4.60 for Bryant.

So a 4.52 40, 38 inch vertical, 11 foot 1 broad, and 6'1.5", 224 lbs. If his name weren't Bryant, people would be going nuts over those numbers. Somehow, that's become a disppointment for Bryant?

I would think the same thing for other guys like Dorin Dickerson (Pitt TE) 6'1 226 pounds who ran a 4.40 40, had an insane 43+ inch vertical, 24 reps, over 10 ft broad jump, if Dez had done that people would have lost their minds, instead it goes almost unnoticed.

 

[phthalatemagic]

These same stories were there about Percy Harvin too. Then all he did was go out and win Rookie of the Year.

I don't think anyone has ever said Harvin had a poor work ethic.

I was referring to the "character concern" stories that emerged leading up to the draft. Did you seriously miss those?

You are in DEFCON 1 with this Dez Bryant thread dude. I see what you are doing, I think everyone else sees what you are doing. You compare Bryant to Calvin Johnson because Bryant forgot his cleats. However, Calvin Johnson didn't bring his cleats and at the last minute borrowed someone elses, and rocked it. Bryant did nothing to help his stock with his workout. You then compare Bryant to Harvin because both of them have character issues. However, Harvin is a hard worker and an ####### (or was an #######, whatever). If Bryant was just as ####### like Harvin, this thread would be much shorter. However Bryant is also suspected of being lazy: weight fluctuation, had a long time to get his numbers better, but failed, couldn't even finish the drills. This is the problem.What's next? Going to compare him to Anquan Boldin in the 40? Randy Moss for being a d-bag? I don't think Bryant will suck, but you are reaching here in your defense of him. It's really bad.

 

[lynx4ben]

he benched 14 reps of 225 and QUIT even though it appeared he could do more.

When did this happen?

 

[phthalatemagic]

I just have one question. In what world was Dez running in the 4.5s expected? I don't think anyone was expecting anything outside of he 4.4s for him and hell the overly optimistic where thinking he could break into the 4.3s.

I never heard anything other than 4.5s being expected.

Schefter reported that Bryant ran a 4.3x last week.

 

[todisco1]

I want NOTHING to do with this guy, either for my team (which obviously PHI isn't going to get him) or my fantasy squad.

Really? What rookie pick do you think he is worth? Would you not draft him in any rookie draft? At what point does he become value...Just curious. I like him a lot but he does have some red flags.

 

[offdee]

I just have one question. In what world was Dez running in the 4.5s expected? I don't think anyone was expecting anything outside of he 4.4s for him and hell the overly optimistic where thinking he could break into the 4.3s.

I never heard anything other than 4.5s being expected.

Schefter reported that Bryant ran a 4.3x last week.

Schefter reported that there were "reports" of him running a 4.3. It doesn't take much for a personal trainer or friend to click the stopwatch a hair sooner and tell him how great he is, and then blab about it to others and it gets into the media (even though it's not truth)

 

[moderated]

I just have one question. In what world was Dez running in the 4.5s expected? I don't think anyone was expecting anything outside of he 4.4s for him and hell the overly optimistic where thinking he could break into the 4.3s.

I never heard anything other than 4.5s being expected.

Schefter reported that Bryant ran a 4.3x last week.

he forgot to mention it was in the 30 yard dash.Progression of Dez's Draft Stock