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Looking at those: A few thoughts:

1) Make sure it has a Dana 44 rear axle. I believe all JKs came with that instead of a 35, but be sure.

2) Mileage isn't a HUGE concern. The powerplant in these jeeps is the same that's been used in a Dodge Caravan for ages. IT's generally a known reliable engine out to 200K miles with proper Maintenance

3) The OEM powerplant is slightly underpowered for the 4 door. If you're not planning on driving it like a sports car then you likely won't mind. Just realize that the 4dr weighs more and has the same engine.

4) that said, the 4 doors are very spacious. IF you feel you'll have a need for added space at times, it can be a blessing.

 

[MarshallPlan]

I'm looking to get my first jeep within a month or so. Looking at something for max 25k, used, 4 doors, with not a lot of miles on it.

I was browsing on the Jeep website and trying to figure out the difference between the Wrangler Sport and the Sahara.

Anyway, seems like I could get a new jeep for 30k or get a used one for 5k less and 25-30k miles on it. I am a firm believer in buying used, but it's not a big jump to getting a new one. Any opinions?

 

[oneohh]

Looking at those: A few thoughts:1) Make sure it has a Dana 44 rear axle. I believe all JKs came with that instead of a 35, but be sure. 2) Mileage isn't a HUGE concern. The powerplant in these jeeps is the same that's been used in a Dodge Caravan for ages. IT's generally a known reliable engine out to 200K miles with proper Maintenance 3) The OEM powerplant is slightly underpowered for the 4 door. If you're not planning on driving it like a sports car then you likely won't mind. Just realize that the 4dr weighs more and has the same engine. 4) that said, the 4 doors are very spacious. IF you feel you'll have a need for added space at times, it can be a blessing.

My brother in law has a '10 JK four-door that I've driven, so I know what I'm getting myself into (for the record, right now I drive an '03 Mach 1). This will be an interesting step for me as far as a vehicle is concerned. I've had Tacomas and Z71s and F150s so I'm gussing the power aspect will take some getting used to. As far as the 2 door vs. 4 door, I'm married but we don't have kids...yet. I think the 4 door would be nice, but what I really want is a 2 door. I just thought the deal on the 4 door I linked was a good one. To your point that mileage shouldn't be a huge concern: I've always looked for used vehicles with the lowest miles I can find. Are you saying that I'll likely pay a premium that I don't necessarily need to pay because I'm looking for low miles? Right now I'm looking for something under 45k. I really appreciate all the help, by the way.

 

[oneohh]

I'm looking to get my first jeep within a month or so. Looking at something for max 25k, used, 4 doors, with not a lot of miles on it. I was browsing on the Jeep website and trying to figure out the difference between the Wrangler Sport and the Sahara. Anyway, seems like I could get a new jeep for 30k or get a used one for 5k less and 25-30k miles on it. I am a firm believer in buying used, but it's not a big jump to getting a new one. Any opinions?

From the little research I've been doing, the Sahara is mostly a "creature comforts" upgrade, as one website put it. I don't know any specifics off hand, though.

 

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I'm looking to get my first jeep within a month or so. Looking at something for max 25k, used, 4 doors, with not a lot of miles on it. I was browsing on the Jeep website and trying to figure out the difference between the Wrangler Sport and the Sahara. Anyway, seems like I could get a new jeep for 30k or get a used one for 5k less and 25-30k miles on it. I am a firm believer in buying used, but it's not a big jump to getting a new one. Any opinions?

From the little research I've been doing, the Sahara is mostly a "creature comforts" upgrade, as one website put it. I don't know any specifics off hand, though.

Sahara typically includes trim "upgrades" including things like body-colored wheel flares rather than black like most other models. There are likely some other trim changes as well though I'm not familar with what they are on the JK. Marshall, the 2011 was a moderate redesign from the 2007-2010 models. I'd do a little research. I'm not 100% familiar with what the tweaks were but I know the interior was upgraded a bit. Structurally they are the same. I also know the hard tops are body-colored on the 2011 vs black on previous models.The narrow price gap is due to Wranglers holding their value very well right now dude to significant demand. JKs simply don't depreciate like many other cars (at least initially).... and TJs generally plateau around 8-12k. If it's running good, in good shape and the mileage isn't ridiculous, it's going to fetch that price range pretty easily.

 

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My brother in law has a '10 JK four-door that I've driven, so I know what I'm getting myself into (for the record, right now I drive an '03 Mach 1). This will be an interesting step for me as far as a vehicle is concerned. I've had Tacomas and Z71s and F150s so I'm gussing the power aspect will take some getting used to. As far as the 2 door vs. 4 door, I'm married but we don't have kids...yet. I think the 4 door would be nice, but what I really want is a 2 door. I just thought the deal on the 4 door I linked was a good one. To your point that mileage shouldn't be a huge concern: I've always looked for used vehicles with the lowest miles I can find. Are you saying that I'll likely pay a premium that I don't necessarily need to pay because I'm looking for low miles? Right now I'm looking for something under 45k. I really appreciate all the help, by the way.

You're very welcome. If you're looking for more pep, you can always regear the axles to 4.57 gear ratio and it will accelerate significantly harder (only do this if you go to bigger tires). That said, it's still a minivan engine. My 4.0 powered TJ with 4.88 gears and 35" Mud Tires will run with most mid-level sports cars till we hit about 30-35mph then they pull away. My off the line speed is prettty nice though I'm not telling you to disregard mileage altogether. I'm just saying I'd not let a few extra miles chase you away from a rig you really like. With these Jeeps there's not a TON of difference between 20 and 40k. Or 40-60k. When you've got a vehicle that's built to go to 200k with pretty good reliability, it's less of a factor than with many other types of cars where you start worrying at 100k.

 

[MarshallPlan]

Thanks Icon. If you were in my shoes what would you do? I'd like to spend 25k max but I can swing a 5k increase if need be.

 

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Thanks Icon. If you were in my shoes what would you do? I'd like to spend 25k max but I can swing a 5k increase if need be.

Having not had a chance to sit in the 2011s I don't feel right answering that to be honest. I'd strongly suggest sitting down in both drivers seats and taking a good hard look around you. There's not really many other significant differences other than the look/feel of the interior.

 

[oneohh]

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Going to go drive this one tonight.

 

[lumpy19]

I my 2010 JK rubicon...I'd prefer a 2 door, they're way more fun to drive but I need the 4 doors.

I don't mind that it's a dog in the power dept, keeps me out of trouble.

 

[tonydead]

Too many miles?

 

[tonydead]

What's a stock 2001 Wrangler Sport with just 36,000 miles on it worth?

 

[oneohh]

I my 2010 JK rubicon...I'd prefer a 2 door, they're way more fun to drive but I need the 4 doors.I don't mind that it's a dog in the power dept, keeps me out of trouble.

I know what you mean. I'm looking to get out of a 300 hp car and into a 2 door. Gotta have the 6-speed, though.

 

[oneohh]

What's a stock 2001 Wrangler Sport with just 36,000 miles on it worth?

not too shabby

 

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What's a stock 2001 Wrangler Sport with just 36,000 miles on it worth?

IMO it really depends on condition. Mileage isn't as much of a factor as you'd think. In fact I'd be cautious with something that hasn't been driven much at all. Engines sitting idle for long periods of time tend to develop problems. Hoses dry out, residue accumulates, etc. You're looking at a 3-4k mile per year vehicle. I'd ask about why it was only driven that little. Make sure it was at least started regularly, etc. That said... assuming it's all good and you're just picking up a low mileage rig there, I'd say a fair price in very good condition would be in the 7500-8500k range most likely. Am I correct in assuming this jeep is stock? Hard top or soft Top? Hard top adds about $750 if both tops are included. I'd be cautious buying any jeep with less than 5kmi/year. Some jeeps sit around as occasionally used toys. That can be harder on the guts of a car that regular road driving.

 

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What's a stock 2001 Wrangler Sport with just 36,000 miles on it worth?

not too shabby

That's massively inflated IMO. You MIGHT get 11,000 if you find the right buyer.

I wouldn't pay more than $9000 for that jeep.... 9500k MAX if it was a CHERRY if I were buying.

I paid $14,900 for a MINT condition 2004 with about that many miles nearly FIVE YEARS AGO.... from a dealership...with both hard top and soft top.

 

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Too many miles?

FOr that price, yeah... a bit high. Not a terrible deal though. My jeep is at 105k and it's never had a problem outside needing a battery. Only recently I've gotten a bit of a whistle in cold weather from the intake manifold. $250 part and 3 hours work. Not a bad deal for a 7 year old jeep that has been to hell and back and is a daily driver. Take care of your jeep and it will take care of you. We have a ton of people in our club with 150-200k mile rigs that run like clocks. I'm not sure if you realize what you've got there, but that's a TJ Unlimited aka an LJ. IT's got a longer rear section for more room behind the tub and more legroom in the rear seat. They're a great compromise if you like a little more space but want to keep a 2 door rig or don't want to get into the price range of the JKs. In addition, when you lift them past 3" you're less likely to need to drop $500 on a Slip Yoke Eliminator (out of the TCase) and a new CV Rear Driveshaft (to eliminate driveline vibrations).

 

[oneohh]

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Going to go drive this one tonight.

Bump for the zen master

 

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Going to go drive this one tonight.

Sharp ride. One thing to note between 08 and 09 is I beleive they slightly modified the soft tops to make them a little quieter (in the latter case). Not a big deal but something to consider. I like the low mileage and it looks pretty clean. WITH TJs (not the JK you're looking at):

This has been mentioned before in this thread but some things to look for:

- In TJs, check the rear main seal (where the engine mates to the transmission. They tend to leak. not a big deal but mention it and see if they'll repair it. It's a nightmare job.

- Listen for whistling from under the hood... intake/exhaust manifolds get hot and crack in the old I6

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- If you live in a very hot environment, take it for a test drive. Get it good and hot if you can (ie 30 mins on highway) then get out and let it sit for exactly 10 minutes (not 5.... not 15) and then try to start it. Some rigs have poorly insulated injectors and you get a vaporizing issue that causes stumbling starts after long driving sessions punctuated by 7-13 minutes breaks (ballpark range). Shorter and it starts right up. Longer and it has time to clear out. It will start, but it's a PITA and will fumble a bit. Not prevelant in all vehicles and only really happens when it's 90+ degrees out.

- Get underneath it. Look for scratches, dents, dings, etc. Good way to tell if it's been offroad. best places to look on a TJ are on the shovel (the big skid that hangs low on the belly, the differentials, and the control arms.

- Lift the rug. Look underneath. Some rigs get soaked, then people don't dry them right. It can cause damage to the paint and/or rust under the carpet.

 

[tonydead]

What's a stock 2001 Wrangler Sport with just 36,000 miles on it worth?

not too shabby

That's massively inflated IMO. You MIGHT get 11,000 if you find the right buyer.

I wouldn't pay more than $9000 for that jeep.... 9500k MAX if it was a CHERRY if I were buying.

I paid $14,900 for a MINT condition 2004 with about that many miles nearly FIVE YEARS AGO.... from a dealership...with both hard top and soft top.

Spot on, they are asking $11,000 and I was thinking of offering $9000, but I haven't seen it yet.

 

[oneohh]

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Going to go drive this one tonight.

Sharp ride. One thing to note between 08 and 09 is I beleive they slightly modified the soft tops to make them a little quieter (in the latter case). Not a big deal but something to consider. I like the low mileage and it looks pretty clean.

How would I be able to determine what front and rear gear ratios are? Does the VIN have that info?

 

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What's a stock 2001 Wrangler Sport with just 36,000 miles on it worth?

not too shabby

That's massively inflated IMO. You MIGHT get 11,000 if you find the right buyer.

I wouldn't pay more than $9000 for that jeep.... 9500k MAX if it was a CHERRY if I were buying.

I paid $14,900 for a MINT condition 2004 with about that many miles nearly FIVE YEARS AGO.... from a dealership...with both hard top and soft top.

Spot on, they are asking $11,000 and I was thinking of offering $9000, but I haven't seen it yet.

To be honest I'd open with $8k if you're willing to go 9k . This is the "offseason" for wranglers and dealers know it. You can't keep them on your lot in the spring but they don't move well in the winter (except for in snowy climates). The mileage is low but stress that it could be "TOO LOW" and you're concerned about the condition of the driveline possibly sitting idle for extended periods. Ask if they have any maintenance records showing fluid changes, etc.

 

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Going to go drive this one tonight.

Sharp ride. One thing to note between 08 and 09 is I beleive they slightly modified the soft tops to make them a little quieter (in the latter case). Not a big deal but something to consider. I like the low mileage and it looks pretty clean.

How would I be able to determine what front and rear gear ratios are? Does the VIN have that info?

With TJs there was a metal stamped tag between two bolts on the left side of the rear differential cover. It had a code on it that contained etiher 373...410..etc. that indicated gearing from the factory. With JKs i'm not sure. That could have 3.21, 3.73, or possibly (very unlikely) 4.10/4.11s. Generally speaking, bigger numbers are better...ESPECIALLY if you plan on getting bigger tires or towing. IF it is an auto it is more likely a 373. Tow package bumps you to 373.

Ask the dealers for a build sheet (they should be able to provide it) and it will answer that question for you.

 

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Bout to skate out of here but I'll check in later and answer any other questions that surface. Good luck to any of you looking. Be patient and find right rig. If you're like me you won't be selling it for a long time once you get one.

 

[oneohh]

Bout to skate out of here but I'll check in later and answer any other questions that surface. Good luck to any of you looking. Be patient and find right rig. If you're like me you won't be selling it for a long time once you get one. <_<

Thanks as always for the help. I'll be sure to post after my drive.

 

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Damnit... nobody test drove a jeep tonight?!

 

[oneohh]

Damnit... nobody test drove a jeep tonight?!

lol...I did.I drove the black '08 from the link I posted. After driving it I DO NOT have to have a standard transmission. It was all over the place. I hated it. Now, I drive a short-throw Mustang, and I know that has everything to do with it, but I've had 5-speed Tacomas that were a blast to drive. This was just brutal. I've driven a '10 (unlimited) with an auto trans, and it wasn't too bad; it would probably keep me out of trouble. I also thought the tight quarters (just the back seat) would eventually wear on me.

Enough negative.

I absolutely loved the ride. Not at all what I remembered from the short wheel based jeeps at all. The cockpit was great and it sat up nice and high. I really wished I could have taken the top off (the jeep) and just cruised around town as it was a really nice night.

All in all, and I don't think I can really get this from just one test drive, but I'm not sure I'm a Jeep guy. They are great vehicles, especially if you're going to be a die hard crawler, which I doubt I'll ever be. There's a red '09 right by my house with the atuo-trans that I'm going to go drive next week. Maybe that will be a different experience. But I have a feeling that when it comes to 4x4s I'll always be a Tacoma guy.

 

[tonydead]

Going to test drive this weekend:

2005 Jeep

Advice?

 

[KGB]

http://wins.failblog.org/2011/01/13/epic-w...ntal-abuse-win/

 

[MarshallPlan]

Jeep

Test driving this one this weekend.

 

[tonydead]

Purchased

2005 TJ 4.0L

Brand New Super Swampers 2" BL

47,000 miles

Zero Rust

Everything else original.

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[tonydead]

Purchased2005 TJ 4.0LBrand New Super Swampers 2" BL47,000 milesZero RustEverything else original.........$14,500

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[MarshallPlan]

I just purchased a new 2011 a few weeks ago. Came with both hard top and soft top. Couple questions.

The hard top is on right now and the soft top is in the back, is there anyway to take this out of the back of the jeep?

There is no fenders on the sides, I want these. Any suggestions, where to get them, price I should be looking to pay?

I want black rims. Is there anyway I could trade my new tires/rims in and exchange them for new tires/rims? Reason I ask is if I buy the rims I'll have a set of basically new rims in my garage doing nothing.

 

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Purchased2005 TJ 4.0LBrand New Super Swampers 2" BL47,000 milesZero RustEverything else original.........$14,500

Congrats! Swampers will be loud and will ride a little rough on road but should be great if you take it off road. Good tires. 2" body lift isn't bad. If it was 3" I'd suggest replacing it with a spring lift for safety/aesthetics. Got pics?

 

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I just purchased a new 2011 a few weeks ago. Came with both hard top and soft top. Couple questions.The hard top is on right now and the soft top is in the back, is there anyway to take this out of the back of the jeep?There is no fenders on the sides, I want these. Any suggestions, where to get them, price I should be looking to pay?I want black rims. Is there anyway I could trade my new tires/rims in and exchange them for new tires/rims? Reason I ask is if I buy the rims I'll have a set of basically new rims in my garage doing nothing.

CONGRATS! Pics? You have to remove the hard top to get the soft top out IIRC. That's how it was on the TJs. Hard top isn't that bad to be honest with you. 2 guys can do it... 4 guys are better for a Unlimited (more for stability than heft). Just set it down on flat ground... preferably on wood blocks for getting fingers under it. No fenders at ALL.. or the metal is there but the plastic flares are gone? You can sell your OEM rims and/or sell the tires/wheels as a package and get new wheels/tires package. JKOwners.com is a great resource for that or PM Me about my site. Steel wheels are cheaper but heavier. IF you go offroad on rough rocks and bend one, it can be hammered out on the trail. I prefer aluminum wheels for the lighter weight. They cost more and can't be hammered out, but are less likely to bend in the first place. If you plan on dropping your air pressure very low in the tires (ie 8-10psi) when offroad then make sure to get an 8" wide rim..10" max. Any wider and it will have trouble holding a bead. Research tire prices before deciding on a wheel diameter. Bigger rims (ie 20s) look better to some but require much more expensive rubber and have less sidewall flex (for off roading). Smaller rims (15-16") are more functional offroad (sidewall flex) and get you cheaper tires... but look odd to someone who likes big wheels.

 

[tonydead]

Purchased2005 TJ 4.0LBrand New Super Swampers 2" BL47,000 milesZero RustEverything else original.........$14,500

Congrats! Swampers will be loud and will ride a little rough on road but should be great if you take it off road. Good tires. 2" body lift isn't bad. If it was 3" I'd suggest replacing it with a spring lift for safety/aesthetics. Got pics?

I miss-stated the lift. It's actually a 2" suspension and 1" body lift. The swampers are a little loud, but, they ride fine on the highway. I probably paid a little more than I should've but it was exactly what I wanted and in the area. Didn't have any guesswork getting something from across the country:1- One of the newest model TJs I could find.2- Adequate lift with new tires so I can wear these tires then do the lift and tires I really want after I figure out what I'm doing. 3- Everything else stock so I can customize what I want. Already have the new bumpers in the garage.4- Blue fits our color scheme, she has a blue Tundra and we're going to get a blue motorcycle trailer.5- Super clean and no rust, from Florida.6- I did talk them down $1,500.I'll work on the pictures. Will probably have boatloads of questions when I get going on adding accessories. Thx.

 

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I miss-stated the lift. It's actually a 2" suspension and 1" body lift. The swampers are a little loud, but, they ride fine on the highway. I probably paid a little more than I should've but it was exactly what I wanted and in the area. Didn't have any guesswork getting something from across the country:1- One of the newest model TJs I could find.2- Adequate lift with new tires so I can wear these tires then do the lift and tires I really want after I figure out what I'm doing. 3- Everything else stock so I can customize what I want. Already have the new bumpers in the garage.4- Blue fits our color scheme, she has a blue Tundra and we're going to get a blue motorcycle trailer.5- Super clean and no rust, from Florida.6- I did talk them down $1,500.I'll work on the pictures. Will probably have boatloads of questions when I get going on adding accessories. Thx.

Good deal! I'm running 2.5 Susp / 1 body myself and am very happy with it. Good balanced feel and very capable offroad. If you want to run bigger tires (assuming you're running 32/33 right now) I'd suggest tube fenders up front rather than getting any taller. Sounds good. You can never underestimate the power of getting exactly what you want. Feel free to post in here and PM me to let me know if I've not responded in a day. No bother at all and I'm glad to help. Lots of people helped me over the last few years so I'm glad to repay it.

 

[lumpy19]

I just purchased a new 2011 a few weeks ago. Came with both hard top and soft top. Couple questions.The hard top is on right now and the soft top is in the back, is there anyway to take this out of the back of the jeep?There is no fenders on the sides, I want these. Any suggestions, where to get them, price I should be looking to pay?I want black rims. Is there anyway I could trade my new tires/rims in and exchange them for new tires/rims? Reason I ask is if I buy the rims I'll have a set of basically new rims in my garage doing nothing.

Have to remove the hard top to get the soft top out. Trust me I tried everything last year, having the soft top back there blocks everything going in and out of the back. Just remember that next winter when you're putting the hard top back on, leave the soft top out.

 

[MarshallPlan]

I just purchased a new 2011 a few weeks ago. Came with both hard top and soft top. Couple questions.The hard top is on right now and the soft top is in the back, is there anyway to take this out of the back of the jeep?There is no fenders on the sides, I want these. Any suggestions, where to get them, price I should be looking to pay?I want black rims. Is there anyway I could trade my new tires/rims in and exchange them for new tires/rims? Reason I ask is if I buy the rims I'll have a set of basically new rims in my garage doing nothing.

CONGRATS! Pics? You have to remove the hard top to get the soft top out IIRC. That's how it was on the TJs. Hard top isn't that bad to be honest with you. 2 guys can do it... 4 guys are better for a Unlimited (more for stability than heft). Just set it down on flat ground... preferably on wood blocks for getting fingers under it. No fenders at ALL.. or the metal is there but the plastic flares are gone? You can sell your OEM rims and/or sell the tires/wheels as a package and get new wheels/tires package. JKOwners.com is a great resource for that or PM Me about my site. Steel wheels are cheaper but heavier. IF you go offroad on rough rocks and bend one, it can be hammered out on the trail. I prefer aluminum wheels for the lighter weight. They cost more and can't be hammered out, but are less likely to bend in the first place. If you plan on dropping your air pressure very low in the tires (ie 8-10psi) when offroad then make sure to get an 8" wide rim..10" max. Any wider and it will have trouble holding a bead. Research tire prices before deciding on a wheel diameter. Bigger rims (ie 20s) look better to some but require much more expensive rubber and have less sidewall flex (for off roading). Smaller rims (15-16") are more functional offroad (sidewall flex) and get you cheaper tires... but look odd to someone who likes big wheels.

No fenders at all, that's why I want them. I really don't do much offroading so that's not an issue, lighter wheels would be for me. I'll send a PM. Thanks.

 

[MarshallPlan]

The issue I have with keeping the soft top in there is that I own a camera company and I have a big tripod I need to somehow get in there. I think I can lift it over the soft top but the camera isn't light, I need to be able to get it in and out myself.

 

[zander_s]

I just purchased a new 2011 a few weeks ago. Came with both hard top and soft top. Couple questions.The hard top is on right now and the soft top is in the back, is there anyway to take this out of the back of the jeep?There is no fenders on the sides, I want these. Any suggestions, where to get them, price I should be looking to pay?I want black rims. Is there anyway I could trade my new tires/rims in and exchange them for new tires/rims? Reason I ask is if I buy the rims I'll have a set of basically new rims in my garage doing nothing.

CONGRATS! Pics? You have to remove the hard top to get the soft top out IIRC. That's how it was on the TJs. Hard top isn't that bad to be honest with you. 2 guys can do it... 4 guys are better for a Unlimited (more for stability than heft). Just set it down on flat ground... preferably on wood blocks for getting fingers under it. No fenders at ALL.. or the metal is there but the plastic flares are gone? You can sell your OEM rims and/or sell the tires/wheels as a package and get new wheels/tires package. JKOwners.com is a great resource for that or PM Me about my site. Steel wheels are cheaper but heavier. IF you go offroad on rough rocks and bend one, it can be hammered out on the trail. I prefer aluminum wheels for the lighter weight. They cost more and can't be hammered out, but are less likely to bend in the first place. If you plan on dropping your air pressure very low in the tires (ie 8-10psi) when offroad then make sure to get an 8" wide rim..10" max. Any wider and it will have trouble holding a bead. Research tire prices before deciding on a wheel diameter. Bigger rims (ie 20s) look better to some but require much more expensive rubber and have less sidewall flex (for off roading). Smaller rims (15-16") are more functional offroad (sidewall flex) and get you cheaper tires... but look odd to someone who likes big wheels.

No fenders at all, that's why I want them. I really don't do much offroading so that's not an issue, lighter wheels would be for me. I'll send a PM. Thanks.

Is no fenders an option on a new jeep? That seems strange.

 

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Is no fenders an option on a new jeep? That seems strange.

I have seen them taken off of JKs for offroading clearances... but never on a non-wheeling rig.

 

[tonydead]

I miss-stated the lift. It's actually a 2" suspension and 1" body lift. The swampers are a little loud, but, they ride fine on the highway. I probably paid a little more than I should've but it was exactly what I wanted and in the area. Didn't have any guesswork getting something from across the country:1- One of the newest model TJs I could find.2- Adequate lift with new tires so I can wear these tires then do the lift and tires I really want after I figure out what I'm doing. 3- Everything else stock so I can customize what I want. Already have the new bumpers in the garage.4- Blue fits our color scheme, she has a blue Tundra and we're going to get a blue motorcycle trailer.5- Super clean and no rust, from Florida.6- I did talk them down $1,500.I'll work on the pictures. Will probably have boatloads of questions when I get going on adding accessories. Thx.

Good deal! I'm running 2.5 Susp / 1 body myself and am very happy with it. Good balanced feel and very capable offroad. If you want to run bigger tires (assuming you're running 32/33 right now) I'd suggest tube fenders up front rather than getting any taller. Sounds good. You can never underestimate the power of getting exactly what you want. :X Feel free to post in here and PM me to let me know if I've not responded in a day. No bother at all and I'm glad to help. Lots of people helped me over the last few years so I'm glad to repay it.

I don't have much experience, but so far I'd have to agree, the lift feels and looks about right to me. It's not too high were it looks like a monster truck, yet it's got good tires with plenty of clearance all around. This is going to be fun, love new hobbies.

 

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I don't have much experience, but so far I'd have to agree, the lift feels and looks about right to me. It's not too high were it looks like a monster truck, yet it's got good tires with plenty of clearance all around. This is going to be fun, love new hobbies.

My personal suggestion for the best looking/performing arrangement on the market:

Rokmen HiLine Tube Fenders w/ Flare >

These get you 3.5" of extra clearance over factory setups. That means you could run 37's easily on your current lift setup (as big as I'd go with stock axles, and even then you should look into allow shafts)

Rokmen UpArmor High Clearance Package 1 >

Extremely study underside armor kit that protects all critical components and gives you a few inches of added underside clearance. Don't sweat the gas skid on 03+ as the OEM one is plenty robust. I've nailed mine multiple times without issue. The Factory bellypan, however is called the "shovel" for a reason.

Rokmen Mercinary Sliders >

Extend wheelwell to wheelwell (only ones that do) and provide stellar underside coverage. If you play in the rocks at all you will NEED sliders.

That would give you a fantastic "low center of gravity" setup that will have the ground clearance / tire size of people running 5-6" lifts, but will outperform them easily in harsh terrain due to being much more stable.

 

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No fenders at all, that's why I want them. I really don't do much offroading so that's not an issue, lighter wheels would be for me. I'll send a PM. Thanks.

I'm confused.. the photo you sent me (white 4dr JK - nice looking rig) had the factory fender flares on it. Are you talking about metal tube fenders that some people put on it? If so then there are companies that make them for the JK for sure.

 

[tonydead]

Link

Had to see how this picture posting worked. Besides just had her washed and waxed with new body armor bumpers.

eta: I don't get the insert image deal.

 

[Wooderson]

What kind of MPG are you guys getting with your Jeep? I was thinking of selling my Silverado and getting one I would like it to get better MPG then my current 13MPG.

 

[cstu]

I was given a 4 door Wrangler to drive from a rental car company and I think it's a POS for driving in town.

 

[lumpy19]

I was given a 4 door Wrangler to drive from a rental car company and I think it's a POS for driving in town.

yikes don't go drive an older jeep

 

[cstu]

I was given a 4 door Wrangler to drive from a rental car company and I think it's a POS for driving in town.

yikes don't go drive an older jeep

I was coming from driving a Jaguar so can you blame me? I still think they're cool but I couldn't drive one daily.