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The Nick Foles era (1 Viewer)

Nick Foles is a fantasy monster. I had him pegged last week as the #7 or so dynasty QB. I'm rethinking that.

I don't see a compelling reason to take any of the aging "win-now" guys over him when he's pacing them or outscoring them already. So that nixes Manning, Brees, Brady. But there's something to be said for veteran surety, for the risk-averse. But my dynasty rankings wouldn't be for the risk-averse.

You could make an argument for any young guy that you love, especially the rushing freaks.

Cam

Luck

Wilson

Stafford

(RG3 or Kaepernick here if you are extreme believers)

So Foles might be as high as the #5 dynasty QB, higher if you like him over any of those consensus young guys.

 
I held on to Kapernick in the off chance I mAde it to the championship game. Well I have, and wondering if Foles vs CHI is favorable enough to play him over Kap vs ATL. I am playing the best team in the league, whose got studs like Romo, Moreno, Charles and Gordon. I need every point I can get.

 
philly vs chicago next week is likely a completely meaningless game leaving the strong possibility foles, djax and mccoy get benched for most of it. this will be an agonizing decision for most of us.

 
Highest YPA by a 2nd year QB (200+ attempts):

Code:
1	Nick Foles	qb	2013	24	2	11	165	266	2398	9.02	23	2	249.22	Dan Marino	qb	1984	23	2	16	362	564	5084	9.01	48	17	428.53	Roethlisberger	qb	2005	23	2	13	168	268	2385	8.90	17	9	203.24	Kurt Warner	qb	1999	28	2	16	325	499	4353	8.72	41	13	383.95	Russell Wilson	qb	2013	25	2	14	231	357	3077	8.62	24	8	298.76	Eric Hipple	qb	1981	24	2	16	140	279	2358	8.45	14	15	217.77	Culpepper	qb	2000	23	2	16	297	474	3937	8.31	33	16	401.98	Kaepernick	qb	2012	25	2	13	136	218	1809	8.30	10	3	199.29	Norm Snead	qb	1962	23	2	14	184	354	2926	8.27	22	22	231.310	Boomer Esiason	qb	1985	24	2	15	251	431	3443	7.99	27	12	282.111	Cam Newton	qb	2012	23	2	16	280	485	3869	7.98	19	12	380.212	Ken O'Brien	qb	1985	25	2	16	297	488	3888	7.97	25	8	292.213	Charley Johnson	qb	1962	24	2	11	150	308	2440	7.92	16	20	197.814	Mark Rypien	qb	1989	27	2	14	280	476	3768	7.92	22	13	275.015	Fran Tarkenton	qb	1962	22	2	14	163	329	2595	7.89	22	25	240.916	Peyton Manning	qb	1999	23	2	16	331	533	4135	7.76	26	15	315.1
 
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philly vs chicago next week is likely a completely meaningless game leaving the strong possibility foles, djax and mccoy get benched for most of it. this will be an agonizing decision for most of us.
Not really following you here. Doesn't Dallas play Philly in the final week?

 
philly vs chicago next week is likely a completely meaningless game leaving the strong possibility foles, djax and mccoy get benched for most of it. this will be an agonizing decision for most of us.
Not meaningless at all. They will be playing for playoff seeding if nothing else. I would think that being the 3 seed would be a very big priority for any team in the NFC this year so as to not have Seattle in the second round. I may be wrong but I would be shocked if they considered this remotely meaningless even if Dallas loses next week.

 
Oh yeah...I just looked at it. You must have meant completely meaningful rather than meaningless, because if Dallas loses next week to the Skins (a team that has given up), Philly will be able to clinch the division at home. That is pretty meaningful.

 
philly vs chicago next week is likely a completely meaningless game leaving the strong possibility foles, djax and mccoy get benched for most of it. this will be an agonizing decision for most of us.
Cowboys are playing the in-shambles, bad to begin with Redskins. Cowboys have the best division record? How is it "likely" meaningless?

Asking because as a Bears fan, I want it to be :)

 
philly vs chicago next week is likely a completely meaningless game leaving the strong possibility foles, djax and mccoy get benched for most of it. this will be an agonizing decision for most of us.
Not meaningless at all. They will be playing for playoff seeding if nothing else. I would think that being the 3 seed would be a very big priority for any team in the NFC this year so as to not have Seattle in the second round. I may be wrong but I would be shocked if they considered this remotely meaningless even if Dallas loses next week.
Good point, didn't think about this angle.

 
Before it gets too far out of control, the scenario is that if the cowboys win then the Eagles vs cowboys week 17 is for the division. HOWEVER, the 3 seed is still at stake which in the unlikely event 3 v 4 is the NFC Champ game, you want that 3 seed.

Kelly has also come out and said he will not be resting players regardless.

 
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philly vs chicago next week is likely a completely meaningless game leaving the strong possibility foles, djax and mccoy get benched for most of it. this will be an agonizing decision for most of us.
Not really following you here. Doesn't Dallas play Philly in the final week?
Exactly, making win/lose versus Chi irrelevant to Phi (if Dal beats Was this week).
Dude, what are you smoking? I have heard of teams sitting their starters to rest up for the playoffs, I have never heard of a team sitting players in week 15, and then having them come back to play the finale.

 
Let's get this back on track...Foles is awesome, do we think he will be in the 20, 25, or 30 plus range this week versus Chicago?

 
philly vs chicago next week is likely a completely meaningless game leaving the strong possibility foles, djax and mccoy get benched for most of it. this will be an agonizing decision for most of us.
Not really following you here. Doesn't Dallas play Philly in the final week?
Exactly, making win/lose versus Chi irrelevant to Phi (if Dal beats Was this week).
Dude, what are you smoking? I have heard of teams sitting their starters to rest up for the playoffs, I have never heard of a team sitting players in week 15, and then having them come back to play the finale.
If the #3 seed weren't on the line and if the Cowboy game was beforehand (rather than at the same time) and if the Cowboys won that game, then the Phi/Chi would be meaningless in terms of playoff entry/standings for Phi. In that event, week 17 would become a defacto extra playoff round for the Eagles, so it would make sense for them to bench a guy like McCoy if they thought he needed the rest.

Too many ifs in that statement, with the first two already proven to not be the actual case, so as Insein pointed out already, disregard the thought and carry on with the Foles manlove.

 
philly vs chicago next week is likely a completely meaningless game leaving the strong possibility foles, djax and mccoy get benched for most of it. this will be an agonizing decision for most of us.
Not really following you here. Doesn't Dallas play Philly in the final week?
Exactly, making win/lose versus Chi irrelevant to Phi (if Dal beats Was this week).
Dude, what are you smoking? I have heard of teams sitting their starters to rest up for the playoffs, I have never heard of a team sitting players in week 15, and then having them come back to play the finale.
If the #3 seed weren't on the line and if the Cowboy game was beforehand (rather than at the same time) and if the Cowboys won that game, then the Phi/Chi would be meaningless in terms of playoff entry/standings for Phi. In that event, week 17 would become a defacto extra playoff round for the Eagles, so it would make sense for them to bench a guy like McCoy if they thought he needed the rest.

Too many ifs in that statement, with the first two already proven to not be the actual case, so as Insein pointed out already, disregard the thought and carry on with the Foles manlove.
Philly was flexed to the late game vs. Chicago. The Dallas game will be over.

Are some really saying that the outcome of the Dallas game could impact the Philly roster on Sunday evening? I'd like to know if this is remotely true.

 
Yeah, so anyway. . .

Nick Foles' sneaky contribution is that he is a competent runner with the ball. He's run for 171 yards and 2 TDs over the past 5 games. Effective running coupled with not turning the ball over has amplified his production.

:tebow: Nick Foles!

 
Philly was flexed to the late game vs. Chicago. The Dallas game will be over.

Are some really saying that the outcome of the Dallas game could impact the Philly roster on Sunday evening? I'd like to know if this is remotely true.
if dallas beats washington, then the philly vs chicago game is meaningless for the division title. win or lose in week 16, philly would need to beat dallas in week 17 to make the playoffs.

chip kelly has said he will not rest his players.

I would be very leary of rolling with a philly player. if the game gets kinda out of hand I would bet that players start getting pulled. if a key player gets slightly dinged, I would bet he isnt going to gut it out.

 
Nick Foles is a fantasy monster. I had him pegged last week as the #7 or so dynasty QB. I'm rethinking that.

I don't see a compelling reason to take any of the aging "win-now" guys over him when he's pacing them or outscoring them already. So that nixes Manning, Brees, Brady. But there's something to be said for veteran surety, for the risk-averse. But my dynasty rankings wouldn't be for the risk-averse.

You could make an argument for any young guy that you love, especially the rushing freaks.

Cam

Luck

Wilson

Stafford

(RG3 or Kaepernick here if you are extreme believers)

So Foles might be as high as the #5 dynasty QB, higher if you like him over any of those consensus young guys.
Cam and Kaep are not matchup proof.

Foles plays in a better offense than Wilson and Luck for FF production. I haven't followed Stafford but he's safe.

RG3 is a decent buy right now in hopes of landing a unreal QB2 or a cheap shot at a elite QB1.

Great list, but unless Luck/Wilson get into offense where they get to "go get theirs" I'd rather have Foles.

 
Nick Foles is a fantasy monster. I had him pegged last week as the #7 or so dynasty QB. I'm rethinking that.

I don't see a compelling reason to take any of the aging "win-now" guys over him when he's pacing them or outscoring them already. So that nixes Manning, Brees, Brady. But there's something to be said for veteran surety, for the risk-averse. But my dynasty rankings wouldn't be for the risk-averse.

You could make an argument for any young guy that you love, especially the rushing freaks.

Cam

Luck

Wilson

Stafford

(RG3 or Kaepernick here if you are extreme believers)

So Foles might be as high as the #5 dynasty QB, higher if you like him over any of those consensus young guys.
Cam and Kaep are not matchup proof.Foles plays in a better offense than Wilson and Luck for FF production. I haven't followed Stafford but he's safe.

RG3 is a decent buy right now in hopes of landing a unreal QB2 or a cheap shot at a elite QB1.

Great list, but unless Luck/Wilson get into offense where they get to "go get theirs" I'd rather have Foles.
Yeah, like I said opinions are going to vary wildly on the young guys, especially the ones who supplement with rushing numbers.

So would you say Foles is your #3 dynasty QB?

 
Nick Foles is a fantasy monster. I had him pegged last week as the #7 or so dynasty QB. I'm rethinking that.

I don't see a compelling reason to take any of the aging "win-now" guys over him when he's pacing them or outscoring them already. So that nixes Manning, Brees, Brady. But there's something to be said for veteran surety, for the risk-averse. But my dynasty rankings wouldn't be for the risk-averse.

You could make an argument for any young guy that you love, especially the rushing freaks.

Cam

Luck

Wilson

Stafford

(RG3 or Kaepernick here if you are extreme believers)

So Foles might be as high as the #5 dynasty QB, higher if you like him over any of those consensus young guys.
Cam and Kaep are not matchup proof.Foles plays in a better offense than Wilson and Luck for FF production. I haven't followed Stafford but he's safe.

RG3 is a decent buy right now in hopes of landing a unreal QB2 or a cheap shot at a elite QB1.

Great list, but unless Luck/Wilson get into offense where they get to "go get theirs" I'd rather have Foles.
Yeah, like I said opinions are going to vary wildly on the young guys, especially the ones who supplement with rushing numbers.

So would you say Foles is your #3 dynasty QB?
:popcorn:

 
Bittersweet for me. At one point in time I had Foles on 4/7 dynasty teams, but I sold him cheap in a couple leagues this offseason. Now I only have him in 2/7. His rookie year was sorta "meh" and I lost some faith when Kelly came in and used a fairly high pick on Barkley. Figured he might have an edge as the hand-picked guy. Woops. Oh well. One of the leagues where I've still got him is massively QB-heavy, so I'm enjoying the ride. He is putting up like 45 ppg over there. :D

Also really glad that this offer wasn't accepted back in one of my May rookie drafts.

  • EastBayFunk offers Foles, Nick PHI QB
  • ****** for Year 2014 Round 4 Draft Pick from ******
  • Expires: Mon May 13 8:00:00 p.m. ET 2013
Mon May 6 10:45:51 p.m. ET 2013

Ooooooof.

Foles blowing up drives home some of my core ideas about picking college QBs. Get the guys who produce, not the guys who put up crappy numbers with A+ physical talent. Almost inevitably the guys who pan out were awesome in college. Meanwhile the "projects" almost always end up as career backups.

 
Nick Foles is a fantasy monster. I had him pegged last week as the #7 or so dynasty QB. I'm rethinking that.

I don't see a compelling reason to take any of the aging "win-now" guys over him when he's pacing them or outscoring them already. So that nixes Manning, Brees, Brady. But there's something to be said for veteran surety, for the risk-averse. But my dynasty rankings wouldn't be for the risk-averse.

You could make an argument for any young guy that you love, especially the rushing freaks.

Cam

Luck

Wilson

Stafford

(RG3 or Kaepernick here if you are extreme believers)

So Foles might be as high as the #5 dynasty QB, higher if you like him over any of those consensus young guys.
Cam and Kaep are not matchup proof.Foles plays in a better offense than Wilson and Luck for FF production. I haven't followed Stafford but he's safe.

RG3 is a decent buy right now in hopes of landing a unreal QB2 or a cheap shot at a elite QB1.

Great list, but unless Luck/Wilson get into offense where they get to "go get theirs" I'd rather have Foles.
Yeah, like I said opinions are going to vary wildly on the young guys, especially the ones who supplement with rushing numbers.So would you say Foles is your #3 dynasty QB?
It's hard to say. Things like weapons, offensive schemes, schedules ect.. can make me do a 360 for the upcoming season or long-term. So unless something chances I'd rather have Foles going into the offseason. FF is funny. Just last season Luck/RG3 were untouchable. This year they both could possibly be had at a reasonable discount while Foles and Wilson are being debated as elite. Luck and RG3 are still major talents(probably HOF'ers). Like you said, a case can be made for either guy on your list(except for CK imo). This topic might deserve a thread of it own. I was going to start one on the 2013 QB class, but I'm too lazy.

 
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The Bears have the worst run defense ever... Chip likes to run. I am really hoping Foles hangs a dud and Shady has a 225/4 kinda stat line!

 
The Bears have the worst run defense ever... Chip likes to run. I am really hoping Foles hangs a dud and Shady has a 225/4 kinda stat line!
As a Foles owner in 2 championship games this concerns me too. My backup is Cutler in both leagues. In one league I also have Marshal.....I might need to consider Cutler in this league as I am the underdog.

 
The Bears have the worst run defense ever... Chip likes to run. I am really hoping Foles hangs a dud and Shady has a 225/4 kinda stat line!
As a Foles owner in 2 championship games this concerns me too. My backup is Cutler in both leagues. In one league I also have Marshal.....I might need to consider Cutler in this league as I am the underdog.
I wouldnt be concerned. Unless the weather is Detroit like I fully expect everyone on offense in this game (Bears included) to have good/ great games.

 
The Bears have the worst run defense ever... Chip likes to run. I am really hoping Foles hangs a dud and Shady has a 225/4 kinda stat line!
As a Foles owner in 2 championship games this concerns me too. My backup is Cutler in both leagues. In one league I also have Marshal.....I might need to consider Cutler in this league as I am the underdog.
Yep, I am deciding between Foles and Cutler too...either way I am sure I will choose incorrectly.

 
If you look at the championship roster thread, 90% of the teams have foles as their qb. Dont get cute. Dance with the one who brought you here.

 
If you look at the championship roster thread, 90% of the teams have foles as their qb. Dont get cute. Dance with the one who brought you here.
:goodposting:

He's been the #1 QB and 1-3 ppg better than Peyton since taking over as the starter in Week 6. You'd have to be crazy not to start him at this point.

 
People underestimate the points Foles gets you for his running. While he's no Cam Newton, he gives you 3 or 4 extra points every week on the ground. IN addition to his ability to take it in himself near the goal line.

 
Trying to decide what to do with Foles in a dynasty league. I have both Foles and Rodgers, as well as Bradford. What has Foles been going for lately?

 
I don't have Cutler but for those worried about Foles on Sunday, I can't help but think the Bears offense is going to score big! Philly has no answer for those monsters at WR. Shady can and should have a great game but Doles is going to have to score through the air too. I can't see how he can't. Philly won't control the clock and this will be blow for blow possibly done to the wire.

It may end up in the turnover battle. I'm hoping the Birds seal it with a late Culter pick!

 
I don't have Cutler but for those worried about Foles on Sunday, I can't help but think the Bears offense is going to score big! Philly has no answer for those monsters at WR. Shady can and should have a great game but Doles is going to have to score through the air too. I can't see how he can't. Philly won't control the clock and this will be blow for blow possibly done to the wire.

It may end up in the turnover battle. I'm hoping the Birds seal it with a late Culter pick!
I'm starting Cutler and Forte and going against Foles. I need the Bears to win 50-0.
 
I don't have Cutler but for those worried about Foles on Sunday, I can't help but think the Bears offense is going to score big! Philly has no answer for those monsters at WR. Shady can and should have a great game but Doles is going to have to score through the air too. I can't see how he can't. Philly won't control the clock and this will be blow for blow possibly done to the wire.

It may end up in the turnover battle. I'm hoping the Birds seal it with a late Culter pick!
I'm starting Cutler and Forte Marshall and going against Foles. I need the Bears to win 50-0.
+1

 
Nick Foles is a fantasy monster. I had him pegged last week as the #7 or so dynasty QB. I'm rethinking that.

I don't see a compelling reason to take any of the aging "win-now" guys over him when he's pacing them or outscoring them already. So that nixes Manning, Brees, Brady. But there's something to be said for veteran surety, for the risk-averse. But my dynasty rankings wouldn't be for the risk-averse.

You could make an argument for any young guy that you love, especially the rushing freaks.

Cam

Luck

Wilson

Stafford

(RG3 or Kaepernick here if you are extreme believers)

So Foles might be as high as the #5 dynasty QB, higher if you like him over any of those consensus young guys.
Cam and Kaep are not matchup proof.Foles plays in a better offense than Wilson and Luck for FF production. I haven't followed Stafford but he's safe.

RG3 is a decent buy right now in hopes of landing a unreal QB2 or a cheap shot at a elite QB1.

Great list, but unless Luck/Wilson get into offense where they get to "go get theirs" I'd rather have Foles.
Yeah, like I said opinions are going to vary wildly on the young guys, especially the ones who supplement with rushing numbers.So would you say Foles is your #3 dynasty QB?
It's hard to say. Things like weapons, offensive schemes, schedules ect.. can make me do a 360 for the upcoming season or long-term. So unless something chances I'd rather have Foles going into the offseason. FF is funny. Just last season Luck/RG3 were untouchable. This year they both could possibly be had at a reasonable discount while Foles and Wilson are being debated as elite. Luck and RG3 are still major talents(probably HOF'ers). Like you said, a case can be made for either guy on your list(except for CK imo). This topic might deserve a thread of it own. I was going to start one on the 2013 QB class, but I'm too lazy.
It does deserve a thread, I think the results would be fascinating. Maybe one of us will work up the motivation at some point haha. Just a current dynasty QB rankings thread would do the trick, probably.

 
I don't have Cutler but for those worried about Foles on Sunday, I can't help but think the Bears offense is going to score big! Philly has no answer for those monsters at WR. Shady can and should have a great game but Doles is going to have to score through the air too. I can't see how he can't. Philly won't control the clock and this will be blow for blow possibly done to the wire.

It may end up in the turnover battle. I'm hoping the Birds seal it with a late Culter pick!
I'm pretty sure who will win the turnover battle..
 
The Bears have the worst run defense ever... Chip likes to run. I am really hoping Foles hangs a dud and Shady has a 225/4 kinda stat line!
As a Foles owner in 2 championship games this concerns me too. My backup is Cutler in both leagues. In one league I also have Marshal.....I might need to consider Cutler in this league as I am the underdog.
I wouldnt be concerned. Unless the weather is Detroit like I fully expect everyone on offense in this game (Bears included) to have good/ great games.
High of 70 on Sunday in Philly. No, that's not a joke.

High probability of thunderstorms as well.

 
Kind of bored so I just ran some numbers. If you took Nick Foles' fantasy points from only the games he started and finished this year, he's averaging 31 PPG, which would put him at 527 points in a full 17 week season. Peyton Manning is projected to finish with 394.

Foles is also averaging:

15.5 PPG overall (that includes 4 games he did not play in)

21.7 PPG in games he played (that's counting every start, the 4th quarter against Denver, and the 2nd half against the Giants when Vick was injured)

27.1 PPG in games he started (so all starts including his awful game against Dallas)

 
Awful Waffle said:
Kind of bored so I just ran some numbers. If you took Nick Foles' fantasy points from only the games he started and finished this year, he's averaging 31 PPG, which would put him at 527 points in a full 17 week season. Peyton Manning is projected to finish with 394.

Foles is also averaging:

15.5 PPG overall (that includes 4 games he did not play in)

21.7 PPG in games he played (that's counting every start, the 4th quarter against Denver, and the 2nd half against the Giants when Vick was injured)

27.1 PPG in games he started (so all starts including his awful game against Dallas)
He had a concussion that game?

 
Nick Foles is a fantasy monster. I had him pegged last week as the #7 or so dynasty QB. I'm rethinking that.

I don't see a compelling reason to take any of the aging "win-now" guys over him when he's pacing them or outscoring them already. So that nixes Manning, Brees, Brady. But there's something to be said for veteran surety, for the risk-averse. But my dynasty rankings wouldn't be for the risk-averse.

You could make an argument for any young guy that you love, especially the rushing freaks.

Cam

Luck

Wilson

Stafford

(RG3 or Kaepernick here if you are extreme believers)

So Foles might be as high as the #5 dynasty QB, higher if you like him over any of those consensus young guys.
Cam and Kaep are not matchup proof.Foles plays in a better offense than Wilson and Luck for FF production. I haven't followed Stafford but he's safe.

RG3 is a decent buy right now in hopes of landing a unreal QB2 or a cheap shot at a elite QB1.

Great list, but unless Luck/Wilson get into offense where they get to "go get theirs" I'd rather have Foles.
Yeah, like I said opinions are going to vary wildly on the young guys, especially the ones who supplement with rushing numbers.So would you say Foles is your #3 dynasty QB?
Aaron rodgers
 
Nick Foles is a fantasy monster. I had him pegged last week as the #7 or so dynasty QB. I'm rethinking that.

I don't see a compelling reason to take any of the aging "win-now" guys over him when he's pacing them or outscoring them already. So that nixes Manning, Brees, Brady. But there's something to be said for veteran surety, for the risk-averse. But my dynasty rankings wouldn't be for the risk-averse.

You could make an argument for any young guy that you love, especially the rushing freaks.

Cam

Luck

Wilson

Stafford

(RG3 or Kaepernick here if you are extreme believers)

So Foles might be as high as the #5 dynasty QB, higher if you like him over any of those consensus young guys.
Cam and Kaep are not matchup proof.Foles plays in a better offense than Wilson and Luck for FF production. I haven't followed Stafford but he's safe.

RG3 is a decent buy right now in hopes of landing a unreal QB2 or a cheap shot at a elite QB1.

Great list, but unless Luck/Wilson get into offense where they get to "go get theirs" I'd rather have Foles.
Yeah, like I said opinions are going to vary wildly on the young guys, especially the ones who supplement with rushing numbers.So would you say Foles is your #3 dynasty QB?
Aaron rodgers
Good catch, missed the most obvious one! Thanks.

 
Trying to decide what to do with Foles in a dynasty league. I have both Foles and Rodgers, as well as Bradford. What has Foles been going for lately?
I'm in a similar situation, having Cam and Foles in a dynasty. I think Cam is more valuable, but it's close. I'm planning to shop Cam, as I am comfortable going into next year with Foles as my QB1, and I expect Cam to garner a lot more attention than Foles.

 
If he was missing practice, I'd imagine this would be getting far more press. Most news site don't even mention this. The only article I can find that mentions it is here and even in that article it's basically a side note.

 

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