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The Nick Foles era (1 Viewer)

cstu said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Mighty Mice said:
Agree to disagree. Big on Foles overall, just a bad pass IMO. Whether it was just the wind as mentioned or just a poor deep ball really doesn't change my opinion. He's playing great. Every qb has a bad throw or 2.

Worked out well as Riley could adjust while dbs could not. Looked to me like he tried to lead him coming out of his cut but ball hung in the air.

That's my one knock. Same with deep ball to DJax. The ball hung and the GB defensive back and safety both had chance to recover. Very fortunate the bobble went our way.

Foles is playing great. Not perfect is all. His game will improve no doubt and what more do Eagles fans really need to see?
I have seen enough to say that we removed ourselves from HAVING to take a QB early next year.
Eagles fans...

:lmao:
:confused:

So you've seen him and still think we must take a QB early on in the draft next season?
No, you don't need to draft a QB at all next year. Fans of any other team would be jumping for joy at finding their future QB but not Eagles fans. Sure, draft a late round QB to develop but I think it's crazy not to see how good of a QB you have in this kid.

 
cstu said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Mighty Mice said:
Agree to disagree. Big on Foles overall, just a bad pass IMO. Whether it was just the wind as mentioned or just a poor deep ball really doesn't change my opinion. He's playing great. Every qb has a bad throw or 2.

Worked out well as Riley could adjust while dbs could not. Looked to me like he tried to lead him coming out of his cut but ball hung in the air.

That's my one knock. Same with deep ball to DJax. The ball hung and the GB defensive back and safety both had chance to recover. Very fortunate the bobble went our way.

Foles is playing great. Not perfect is all. His game will improve no doubt and what more do Eagles fans really need to see?
I have seen enough to say that we removed ourselves from HAVING to take a QB early next year.
Eagles fans...

:lmao:
:confused:

So you've seen him and still think we must take a QB early on in the draft next season?
No, you don't need to draft a QB at all next year. Fans of any other team would be jumping for joy at finding their future QB but not Eagles fans. Sure, draft a late round QB to develop but I think it's crazy not to see how good of a QB you have in this kid.
I think most Eagles fans are thrilled with what Foles has done, however there is uncertainty going forward. Kelly hasn't even publicly named him the starter for the rest of this year let alone the QB of the future.

 
cstu said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Mighty Mice said:
Agree to disagree. Big on Foles overall, just a bad pass IMO. Whether it was just the wind as mentioned or just a poor deep ball really doesn't change my opinion. He's playing great. Every qb has a bad throw or 2.

Worked out well as Riley could adjust while dbs could not. Looked to me like he tried to lead him coming out of his cut but ball hung in the air.

That's my one knock. Same with deep ball to DJax. The ball hung and the GB defensive back and safety both had chance to recover. Very fortunate the bobble went our way.

Foles is playing great. Not perfect is all. His game will improve no doubt and what more do Eagles fans really need to see?
I have seen enough to say that we removed ourselves from HAVING to take a QB early next year.
Eagles fans...

:lmao:
:confused:

So you've seen him and still think we must take a QB early on in the draft next season?
No, you don't need to draft a QB at all next year. Fans of any other team would be jumping for joy at finding their future QB but not Eagles fans. Sure, draft a late round QB to develop but I think it's crazy not to see how good of a QB you have in this kid.
I think most Eagles fans are thrilled with what Foles has done, however there is uncertainty going forward. Kelly hasn't even publicly named him the starter for the rest of this year let alone the QB of the future.
He has a QB on the roster with a $100 million contract. I am guessing that some of the fact that he has not announced Foles as the starter ROS has to do with in-house politics more than him not being convinced that he is going with Foles as his guy ROS.

 
According to Roto Kelly said Foles is the guy.

Speaking Monday, coach Chip Kelly confirmed Nick Foles will remain the Eagles' starting quarterback going forward. Analysis: "16 touchdowns, no interceptions," Kelly said rhetorically. "Why would we change?" It's refreshing candor from a coach who could have easily tried to hide the obvious truth behind banal coachspeak. Michael Vick (hamstring) might not be healthy enough for Week 11, anyways, but it's clear the starting job is Foles' until further notice. He'll be a legitimate QB1 against the Redskins' pathetic pass defense on Sunday.
Still slightly open for debate but the "Why would we change?" comment has to be viewed favorably by Foles owners.

 
cstu said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Mighty Mice said:
Agree to disagree. Big on Foles overall, just a bad pass IMO. Whether it was just the wind as mentioned or just a poor deep ball really doesn't change my opinion. He's playing great. Every qb has a bad throw or 2.

Worked out well as Riley could adjust while dbs could not. Looked to me like he tried to lead him coming out of his cut but ball hung in the air.

That's my one knock. Same with deep ball to DJax. The ball hung and the GB defensive back and safety both had chance to recover. Very fortunate the bobble went our way.

Foles is playing great. Not perfect is all. His game will improve no doubt and what more do Eagles fans really need to see?
I have seen enough to say that we removed ourselves from HAVING to take a QB early next year.
Eagles fans...

:lmao:
:confused:

So you've seen him and still think we must take a QB early on in the draft next season?
No, you don't need to draft a QB at all next year. Fans of any other team would be jumping for joy at finding their future QB but not Eagles fans. Sure, draft a late round QB to develop but I think it's crazy not to see how good of a QB you have in this kid.
I think most Eagles fans are thrilled with what Foles has done, however there is uncertainty going forward. Kelly hasn't even publicly named him the starter for the rest of this year let alone the QB of the future.
He has a QB on the roster with a $100 million contract. I am guessing that some of the fact that he has not announced Foles as the starter ROS has to do with in-house politics more than him not being convinced that he is going with Foles as his guy ROS.
Vick has a 1 year, 3.5M contract. He restructured this offseason.

 
No, you don't need to draft a QB at all next year. Fans of any other team would be jumping for joy at finding their future QB but not Eagles fans. Sure, draft a late round QB to develop but I think it's crazy not to see how good of a QB you have in this kid.
I think most Eagles fans are thrilled with what Foles has done, however there is uncertainty going forward. Kelly hasn't even publicly named him the starter for the rest of this year let alone the QB of the future.
He has a QB on the roster with a $100 million contract. I am guessing that some of the fact that he has not announced Foles as the starter ROS has to do with in-house politics more than him not being convinced that he is going with Foles as his guy ROS.
Actually Vick is on a 1-year deal worth (I think) around 7 mil. And I see the Rotoworld article just posted...First I've seen it. I'd guess its from today's press conference.

 
According to Roto Kelly said Foles is the guy.

Speaking Monday, coach Chip Kelly confirmed Nick Foles will remain the Eagles' starting quarterback going forward. Analysis: "16 touchdowns, no interceptions," Kelly said rhetorically. "Why would we change?" It's refreshing candor from a coach who could have easily tried to hide the obvious truth behind banal coachspeak. Michael Vick (hamstring) might not be healthy enough for Week 11, anyways, but it's clear the starting job is Foles' until further notice. He'll be a legitimate QB1 against the Redskins' pathetic pass defense on Sunday.
Still slightly open for debate but the "Why would we change?" comment has to be viewed favorably by Foles owners.
I think its a combination of

1. He's trying to keep def coordinators at least SOMEWHAT game planning for Vick (Not like they believe Vick will start, but if Kelly can even make them spend 5 seconds on it, he feels its a tiny edge, so why not?)

2. Vick being the 100M man and not discounting him and causing even more media frenzy. Yes the media eats up his indecision, but I think it would be even more of a distraction to the team/media if he named Foles starter the rest of the year (Right now Vick and Foles are both happy with this situation)

3. Foles is playing great right now under this 'situation'. Zero reason to risk the pressure of being 'the teams starting qb" right now... He's embracing this role, let him roll with it.

4. He's superstitious and playing it this way has worked.

 
No, you don't need to draft a QB at all next year. Fans of any other team would be jumping for joy at finding their future QB but not Eagles fans. Sure, draft a late round QB to develop but I think it's crazy not to see how good of a QB you have in this kid.
I think most Eagles fans are thrilled with what Foles has done, however there is uncertainty going forward. Kelly hasn't even publicly named him the starter for the rest of this year let alone the QB of the future.
He has a QB on the roster with a $100 million contract. I am guessing that some of the fact that he has not announced Foles as the starter ROS has to do with in-house politics more than him not being convinced that he is going with Foles as his guy ROS.
Actually Vick is on a 1-year deal worth (I think) around 7 mil. And I see the Rotoworld article just posted...First I've seen it. I'd guess its from today's press conference.
It's 3.5M base, a 2.5M proration of bonus money already paid and a 1M bonus.

 
Chip said 100 TDs and no ints and its Foles job. I guess he's keeping his word and Foles is keeping him accountable.

Draft 7 QBs. Who cares? They will have to beat out Foles anyway. That doesn't look too likely right now.

 
According to Roto Kelly said Foles is the guy.

Speaking Monday, coach Chip Kelly confirmed Nick Foles will remain the Eagles' starting quarterback going forward. Analysis: "16 touchdowns, no interceptions," Kelly said rhetorically. "Why would we change?" It's refreshing candor from a coach who could have easily tried to hide the obvious truth behind banal coachspeak. Michael Vick (hamstring) might not be healthy enough for Week 11, anyways, but it's clear the starting job is Foles' until further notice. He'll be a legitimate QB1 against the Redskins' pathetic pass defense on Sunday.
Still slightly open for debate but the "Why would we change?" comment has to be viewed favorably by Foles owners.
Here's a different take on Kelly's comment to the media:

Eskin notes that Eagles coach Chip Kelly won't officially confirm the notion, at least not yet, but Foles will start regardless. Kelly spoke to the media on Monday but yet again wouldn't officially commit to Foles.



I think what we've done for the last two weeks has worked for us pretty good, so we're going to stick with that formula. It's got us 16 touchdowns, no interceptions and two wins, so why would we change?


Understand that Kelly's "why would we change" comment was said with some sarcasm. What Kelly really meant is that his approach to not "officially' naming a quarterback has worked well the past two weeks, so he doesn't see a reason to change that approach.

 
Foles' schedule is pretty nice in the fantasy playoffs. Considering buying him in one league. Anyone really trust him with your championship though?

 
Foles' schedule is pretty nice in the fantasy playoffs. Considering buying him in one league. Anyone really trust him with your championship though?
Depends on what other options you have. If it's Andy Dalton then yes, absolutely. If it's Peyton or Brees then no. In fantasy I would start him over the bottom top ten QBs.

 
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Foles' schedule is pretty nice in the fantasy playoffs. Considering buying him in one league. Anyone really trust him with your championship though?
In the FBG email they seem to think he hasn't cemented the starting gig from here on out over Vick. I don't see how Foles doesn't retain that position unless he gets hurt, I really don't. I've started him the last 2 weeks with Kaep on bye and then playing Carolina. SF doesn't have a good matchup next week vs the Saints either so I will start him vs Washington and continue as long as he is in there. I am just playing him week to week and enjoying this unexpected windfall of points.

 
Foles' schedule is pretty nice in the fantasy playoffs. Considering buying him in one league. Anyone really trust him with your championship though?
Depends on what other options you have. If it's Andy Dalton then yes, absolutely. If it's Peyton or Brees than no. In fantasy I would start him over the bottom top ten QBs.
Dalton was one guy I was comparing him to. Both have nice playoff matchups. I wouldn't trust him over Rivers, a healthy Cutler. Bottom of third of the top 12 sounds about where I'd rank him.

 
cstu said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Mighty Mice said:
Agree to disagree. Big on Foles overall, just a bad pass IMO. Whether it was just the wind as mentioned or just a poor deep ball really doesn't change my opinion. He's playing great. Every qb has a bad throw or 2.

Worked out well as Riley could adjust while dbs could not. Looked to me like he tried to lead him coming out of his cut but ball hung in the air.

That's my one knock. Same with deep ball to DJax. The ball hung and the GB defensive back and safety both had chance to recover. Very fortunate the bobble went our way.

Foles is playing great. Not perfect is all. His game will improve no doubt and what more do Eagles fans really need to see?
I have seen enough to say that we removed ourselves from HAVING to take a QB early next year.
Eagles fans...

:lmao:
:confused:

So you've seen him and still think we must take a QB early on in the draft next season?
No, you don't need to draft a QB at all next year. Fans of any other team would be jumping for joy at finding their future QB but not Eagles fans. Sure, draft a late round QB to develop but I think it's crazy not to see how good of a QB you have in this kid.
? I'm pretty sure most Eagles fans ARE thrilled. Somewhat skeptical/cautious, since the sample size is till small, but I absolutely want him to be the guy. Eagles are far, far better off if this kid is starter material so we can spend our picks elsewhere. I'd imagine Cleveland, Jacksonville, etc... would die to have this guy on their roster right now.

 
Foles' schedule is pretty nice in the fantasy playoffs. Considering buying him in one league. Anyone really trust him with your championship though?
Championship week is no different -- if he's your best option you start him. And you have another five weeks before then to make the judgement on.

 
Foles' schedule is pretty nice in the fantasy playoffs. Considering buying him in one league. Anyone really trust him with your championship though?
Championship week is no different -- if he's your best option you start him. And you have another five weeks before then to make the judgement on.
You misread. I am considering trading for him. Deciding between him and a couple other options.

 
Vick? Not a chance barring injury. And weekly weather permitting I would start Foles in the FF playoffs over all but about 5 QBs (Peyton, Rodgers if healthy, Brees, Stafford). The cutoff gets really grey after that.

Det, @Min, Chi. Start him.

 
Foles' schedule is pretty nice in the fantasy playoffs. Considering buying him in one league. Anyone really trust him with your championship though?
Depends on what other options you have. If it's Andy Dalton then yes, absolutely. If it's Peyton or Brees than no. In fantasy I would start him over the bottom top ten QBs.
Dalton was one guy I was comparing him to. Both have nice playoff matchups. I wouldn't trust him over Rivers, a healthy Cutler. Bottom of third of the top 12 sounds about where I'd rank him.
Boy i dont get this at all. He's top 6 IMO. Time will tell as always.

 
Foles' schedule is pretty nice in the fantasy playoffs. Considering buying him in one league. Anyone really trust him with your championship though?
Depends on what other options you have. If it's Andy Dalton then yes, absolutely. If it's Peyton or Brees than no. In fantasy I would start him over the bottom top ten QBs.
Dalton was one guy I was comparing him to. Both have nice playoff matchups. I wouldn't trust him over Rivers, a healthy Cutler. Bottom of third of the top 12 sounds about where I'd rank him.
Boy i dont get this at all. He's top 6 IMO. Time will tell as always.
I like him. However, it's obviously a small sample size. Is everyone in here an Eagles fan that I'm offending you by saying I'd rank him between 8th and 12th??

 
Sure, somewhat high reliance on big plays, and he's had, I think, pretty good protection these last 2 weeks. Lacks experience to identofy the better Def coordinators schemes, so it's likely there will some stinkers. Still want him to go the rest of the way and get that xp

 
I get the enthusiasm, but anybody have an argument against Foles??
Sure, it's a small sample size. I wouldn't sell the farm for him because he's still unknown, 3 weeks ago after the Dallas game he was buried by the majority of critics so I don't buy everyone "knowing" that he is absolutely the real deal. For guys like myself who happen to have him on my redraft team because a few weeks ago I needed a backup for a bye week and Vick got hurt, he's a must start on a weekly basis until I see different.

 
Sure, somewhat high reliance on big plays, and he's had, I think, pretty good protection these last 2 weeks. Lacks experience to identofy the better Def coordinators schemes, so it's likely there will some stinkers. Still want him to go the rest of the way and get that xp
I've seen a couple games and I think that's a little unfair.

he definitely takes shots, which leads to making some of them, which is a credit to the guy, but a lot of his throws are quick releases right around the line of scrimmage, getting the ball out quick and letting guys make plays with the ball.

 
Always having been a big Nick Foles fan (even with that goofy mug of his), I think today will be:

1) His first pick to break that streak (boooo!);

2) A hard hit that he takes in stride, maybe limps, but returns to the game;

3) A nice solid win that the pundits won't be able to criticize him for.

Here's hoping that at least #3 happens!

 
Always having been a big Nick Foles fan (even with that goofy mug of his), I think today will be:

1) His first pick to break that streak (boooo!);

2) A hard hit that he takes in stride, maybe limps, but returns to the game;

3) A nice solid win that the pundits won't be able to criticize him for.

Here's hoping that at least #3 happens!
There's #2.

 
Tried to trade a haul for this guy in a Superflex league, guy didn't go for it despite also having Romo, Rivers, Bradford as well. So sad.

 
Always having been a big Nick Foles fan (even with that goofy mug of his), I think today will be:

1) His first pick to break that streak (boooo!);

2) A hard hit that he takes in stride, maybe limps, but returns to the game;

3) A nice solid win that the pundits won't be able to criticize him for.

Here's hoping that at least #3 happens!
There's #2.
Got #1 wrong. That's the one I really wanted wrong, honestly. I'd still argue that was a nice solid win (at home!) but I doubt it will stifle the pundits yet. Solidly take division lead, and we just need to do the same thing to Dallas come December 29th.

Side note: I didn't really notice until just now how much Nick resembles Napolean Dynamite. But the Liger still is pretty much my favorite animal ever. :)

:wolf:

 
@RoobCSN: Foles has had a passer rating of at least 100 five times this year. Only Peyton & R. Wilson have had more. And Foles didn't start six games.

 
Always having been a big Nick Foles fan (even with that goofy mug of his), I think today will be:

1) His first pick to break that streak (boooo!);

2) A hard hit that he takes in stride, maybe limps, but returns to the game;

3) A nice solid win that the pundits won't be able to criticize him for.

Here's hoping that at least #3 happens!
There's #2.
Got #1 wrong. That's the one I really wanted wrong, honestly. I'd still argue that was a nice solid win (at home!) but I doubt it will stifle the pundits yet. Solidly take division lead, and we just need to do the same thing to Dallas come December 29th.

Side note: I didn't really notice until just now how much Nick resembles Napolean Dynamite. But the Liger still is pretty much my favorite animal ever. :)

:wolf:
How much you wanna make a bet he can throw this football over them mountains?

Watch this. :steak to napoleon's face:

Best 30 seconds of whole movie.

 
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Maybe it was not the day that will silence the pundits - This morning on the pregame one of the idiots (forget who) stated that next year Chip Kelly would love to draft a QB of the future, "there is a guy in Oregon and another in Texas that he would love to get"

WTF! The only way Foles is going to get any respect will be to take the Eagles to the playoffs, win a playoff game, win a superbowl, and win a superbowl MVP - then they will probably start talking about Foles in the same breath as Luck.

Today was almost a monster day. Celek had a TD reception reversed and he was called down at the 1 and Cooper had a TD catch that looked like it could have been called a TD but he was called down at the 1 as well. Both led to easy TD runs for McCoy.

 
Maybe it was not the day that will silence the pundits - This morning on the pregame one of the idiots (forget who) stated that next year Chip Kelly would love to draft a QB of the future, "there is a guy in Oregon and another in Texas that he would love to get"

WTF! The only way Foles is going to get any respect will be to take the Eagles to the playoffs, win a playoff game, win a superbowl, and win a superbowl MVP - then they will probably start talking about Foles in the same breath as Luck.

Today was almost a monster day. Celek had a TD reception reversed and he was called down at the 1 and Cooper had a TD catch that looked like it could have been called a TD but he was called down at the 1 as well. Both led to easy TD runs for McCoy.
thx for that --- exactly what I hope for when I check a thread like this

 
Maybe it was not the day that will silence the pundits - This morning on the pregame one of the idiots (forget who) stated that next year Chip Kelly would love to draft a QB of the future, "there is a guy in Oregon and another in Texas that he would love to get"

WTF! The only way Foles is going to get any respect will be to take the Eagles to the playoffs, win a playoff game, win a superbowl, and win a superbowl MVP - then they will probably start talking about Foles in the same breath as Luck.

Today was almost a monster day. Celek had a TD reception reversed and he was called down at the 1 and Cooper had a TD catch that looked like it could have been called a TD but he was called down at the 1 as well. Both led to easy TD runs for McCoy.
thx for that --- exactly what I hope for when I check a thread like this
One PI on Cooper and another could have been PI, both easy TDs if caught.

 
Maybe it was not the day that will silence the pundits - This morning on the pregame one of the idiots (forget who) stated that next year Chip Kelly would love to draft a QB of the future, "there is a guy in Oregon and another in Texas that he would love to get"

WTF! The only way Foles is going to get any respect will be to take the Eagles to the playoffs, win a playoff game, win a superbowl, and win a superbowl MVP - then they will probably start talking about Foles in the same breath as Luck.

Today was almost a monster day. Celek had a TD reception reversed and he was called down at the 1 and Cooper had a TD catch that looked like it could have been called a TD but he was called down at the 1 as well. Both led to easy TD runs for McCoy.
thx for that --- exactly what I hope for when I check a thread like this
One PI on Cooper and another could have been PI, both easy TDs if caught.
Don't know how they missed that first PI call on Cooper. The CB was beat and two hand pulled his shoulder pads and impeded his progress.

 
Maybe it was not the day that will silence the pundits - This morning on the pregame one of the idiots (forget who) stated that next year Chip Kelly would love to draft a QB of the future, "there is a guy in Oregon and another in Texas that he would love to get"

WTF! The only way Foles is going to get any respect will be to take the Eagles to the playoffs, win a playoff game, win a superbowl, and win a superbowl MVP - then they will probably start talking about Foles in the same breath as Luck.

Today was almost a monster day. Celek had a TD reception reversed and he was called down at the 1 and Cooper had a TD catch that looked like it could have been called a TD but he was called down at the 1 as well. Both led to easy TD runs for McCoy.
thx for that --- exactly what I hope for when I check a thread like this
And that pass to Shady was almost a TD too. He makes that man miss 99% of the time.

 
Maybe it was not the day that will silence the pundits - This morning on the pregame one of the idiots (forget who) stated that next year Chip Kelly would love to draft a QB of the future, "there is a guy in Oregon and another in Texas that he would love to get"

WTF! The only way Foles is going to get any respect will be to take the Eagles to the playoffs, win a playoff game, win a superbowl, and win a superbowl MVP - then they will probably start talking about Foles in the same breath as Luck.

Today was almost a monster day. Celek had a TD reception reversed and he was called down at the 1 and Cooper had a TD catch that looked like it could have been called a TD but he was called down at the 1 as well. Both led to easy TD runs for McCoy.
thx for that --- exactly what I hope for when I check a thread like this
And that pass to Shady was almost a TD too. He makes that man miss 99% of the time.
Shady was playing against a guy who had Foles this week.

 
I thought Cooper was in on that catch, but the Eagles hurry up prevented a 2nd look. Then after the TD it was forgotten. Never did see a good replay.

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
@EliotShorrParks: Chip Kelly on if it's ridiculous to ask who the starting quarterback is going forward: "Yes" #Eagles

:lmao:
He should have followed up with "Ridiculous because it's obvious or ridiculous because you won't answer?"

 
wdcrob said:
I thought Cooper was in on that catch, but the Eagles hurry up prevented a 2nd look. Then after the TD it was forgotten. Never did see a good replay.
I was at the game, and despite the "hurry up" they had time to show the slo-mo replay (can't remember whether it was on the Jumbotron or one of the overhanging monitors on the box level) before they snapped the McCoy TD. It sure looked like at least part of the ball got across the goal line, though I can't say 100% it'd have been overturned since he had it tucked away during the tackle. What I loved most about Foles on that play is that he ran right down to the 1 and looked over at Chip just long enough to confirm the next play call, got under center, and snapped the ball as quickly as possible. No half-speed jog downfield or fixing the sideline with a glance that might have sent the message, "I deserved that TD - why don't you take a few seconds to review upstairs then go ahead and throw that flag". Pure professionalism. :thumbup:

And Cooper should have had a TD on that long ball down the left side as well, DPI or no DPI - in fact the CB fell down after grabbing Cooper's shoulder pad but before the ball arrived. Cooper either lost track of the ball or was too busy starting to gesticulate for a flag to look around for it. That was all on him IMO.

By all rights Foles could have (and maybe should have) had another 300-yard / 3-TD passing day. I've seen pretty much all I need to see at this point - the kid's legit.

 

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