Keith1
Footballguy
Mine used to be like that, but if I don't do it when waivers run overnight Wednesday i will get skunked. Do I dare carry 2 kickers ? Is Butker worth it ???
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The Official Kicker (K) Thread (4 Viewers)
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montana_grizzly_bears
Footballguy
What are thoughts on Greg Joseph? He was 6th last year and seems to be not getting a lot of backing this year. Thinking of dropping Blankenship for him instead of York.
I'm in same boat. -- Joseph is also available --also considering Boswell --he was #4 overall in my league last year
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Is anyone giving up on McPherson after week 1?
- he nailed a 59 yd FG on theopeningsecond drive so he still has the leg and accuracy
- Burrow turned it over 5 times reducing opportunities, this was likely due to Burrow missing most of the preseason and being rusty (and TJ Watt), shouldn't happen again
- Cincy lost their LS for the year with a torn bicep, replacement is rookie LS from practice squad who was best LS in the draft and one of the best in country while at Pitt
- Burrow and the offense appear to have picked up where they left off last season, minus the rust and turnovers
- 3 missed kicks: 1 was awful high snap on FG in OT, 1 was blocked FG, 1 was blocked XP; none were directly his fault but could indicate ST issues that might persist, or might get sorted in practice
There are some hot kickers on the wire as always, and it is tempting to make a strong bid for York. I still think McPherson can have a top 5 season but I was 0/all on my predictions for wk 1
What is the Shark Pool's opinion on McPherson, buy/sell/hold?
McPherson was solid last year but don't fall in love with a K bc of what they did a year ago. Move on, they're often up one year, down the next, then up again.
Young Koo was a fantastic K in 2020. 37/39 FGs, 8 FG40-49 + 8 FG50+. K2 in 2020, K18 in 2021.
Jason Sanders was even better: 36/39, 12 FG40-49 + 8 FG50+. K1 in 2020, K22 in 2021.
J Giles Band
Footballguy
Go by the offense... not the kicker.
buyIs anyone giving up on McPherson after week 1?
- he nailed a 59 yd FG on theopeningsecond drive so he still has the leg and accuracy
- Burrow turned it over 5 times reducing opportunities, this was likely due to Burrow missing most of the preseason and being rusty (and TJ Watt), shouldn't happen again
- Cincy lost their LS for the year with a torn bicep, replacement is rookie LS from practice squad who was best LS in the draft and one of the best in country while at Pitt
- Burrow and the offense appear to have picked up where they left off last season, minus the rust and turnovers
- 3 missed kicks: 1 was awful high snap on FG in OT, 1 was blocked FG, 1 was blocked XP; none were directly his fault but could indicate ST issues that might persist, or might get sorted in practice
There are some hot kickers on the wire as always, and it is tempting to make a strong bid for York. I still think McPherson can have a top 5 season but I was 0/all on my predictions for wk 1
What is the Shark Pool's opinion on McPherson, buy/sell/hold?
he's on a HOF kicker trajectory
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
IF any current kicker gets inducted into The Hall, it is probably Tucker. Only 4 are in and only 2 were just kickers.
wlwiles
Footballguy
Butker is middle of the pack. Tied to a good offense but is going to have a couple of games where he only gets you 4 PAT's and no FGs, that's the risk with a guy that's on a good offense.
I've got Butker in my dynasty league and in the same boat as you, daily FAAB waivers run at 11 AM. But I have no plans on carrying two kickers, so if Butker can't go Thursday I'll just bench him, then drop him for another K before Sunday. You're not "stuck with a 0" if he is ruled out as long as you take him out of your starting lineup...
sho nuff
Footballguy
Good offense that can score a lot of points...but also one that struggles just enough to give him plenty of FG opportunities.
Plus at least half of their games in a dome. Id roll with Joseph.
ZADO
Footballguy
Tell that to Rodrigo Blankenship
J Giles Band
Footballguy
No kidding... a certain competence by the K is assumed. If you think the kicker stinks, disregard rule #1.Tell that to Rodrigo Blankenship
Although if you think about it, rule #1 still applies because it wasn't about owning Blankenship, it was about the Colts offense. So you go get his replacement (depending on your other choices, of course... and your belief in the new K's competence).
ZADO
Footballguy
All i do is stream kickers and D/ st anyways , so its not a big issue for me while draftingNo kidding... a certain competence by the K is assumed. If you think the kicker stinks, disregard rule #1.Tell that to Rodrigo Blankenship
Although if you think about it, rule #1 still applies because it wasn't about owning Blankenship, it was about the Colts offense. So you go get his replacement (depending on your other choices, of course... and your belief in the new K's competence).
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
McPherson is still a buy. The issues last week were the long snapper got injured and was replaced by the backup tight end Wilcox. Wilcox in turn was replaced on the left end of the kicking formation by Drew Sample who blew the blocking assignment on the blocked extra point. The replacement for Harris is already on the team - Cal Adomitis an excellent young long snapper and heir apparent that they have had on their practice squad since last year and who barely lost our to Harris this year in camp. Money Mac will be fine.
Adomitis is a good pickup in dynasty long snapper leagues. Harris may come back from IR late in the year if he can recover fast enough and if the Bengals still have the IR return to spare.
Side note the AFC North is now ridiculously stacked at kicker - 4 top options there now and for the next few years.
-QG
Adomitis is a good pickup in dynasty long snapper leagues. Harris may come back from IR late in the year if he can recover fast enough and if the Bengals still have the IR return to spare.
Side note the AFC North is now ridiculously stacked at kicker - 4 top options there now and for the next few years.
-QG
Tucker is definitely getting in. Robbie Gould is maybe but probably not with only 4 in total. I was exaggerating to make my point that McPherson is an ideal dynasty and redraft kicker to have. Never drop him.
LOL. The year I take a kicker NOT in the last round...this.
Debating Gould who should have serious game script in home opener against SEA. Could also potentially see some redzone inefficiency if Lance has some troubles.
Surprised nobody is talking about M. Crosby. GB is going to crucify CHI after last week.
J. Elliott possibly on Monday night although that could be a high scorer were both teams going for TDs. Biased towards this option because I'd have to drop K. Gainwell for him. Could punt the kicker entirely and hold onto Gainwell if I'm getting crushed come Monday night.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
McManus anyone? I think DEN goes wild at home this week vs. HOU after last week's debacle
yes AFC west kickers bueno
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Same boat. Picked up McManus for this week but I'd have to drop one of Da Pierce, R. Stevenson, Julio, Samuel, or De Hopkins
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Dropped Butker just know. Just don’t have anyone else worthy of the drop - rather roll the dice on weekly kickers than loose out on a potential starting RB or Flex WR.
That said.
Who ya’lls got for a steam this week? Been staring at Younghoo (nervous about the rams eating his leg off). Also the young kid Cade York. Lots available. Gould, Boswell, Hopkins …
That said.
Who ya’lls got for a steam this week? Been staring at Younghoo (nervous about the rams eating his leg off). Also the young kid Cade York. Lots available. Gould, Boswell, Hopkins …
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Sounds like Koo here as well - seemingly an offense that WILL move the ball, but without a true RB may struggle in the red area. Plus, dome. Proven track record as well.
I think I just talked myself into him this week
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Cade York time baby...4-5 field goals incoming
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Gonna roll with York VS NYJ
Lots of options on the wire:
Koo @ LAR
Prater @ LV
Boswell VS NE
Lutz VS TB
Lots of options on the wire:
Koo @ LAR
Prater @ LV
Boswell VS NE
Lutz VS TB
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m all in on Cade York in CLE. Kid’s got a huge leg, the Browns have a mediocre but productive offense with Brissett at the helm, and they don’t seem to hesitate to run him out to kick from 60 yards or less.
They may even try something crazy longer this year - he was allegedly/reportedly making them from 60+ with ease in warmups last week.
I’m sure he’s been talked about in here, but he’s gonna be a gold mine from an inconsistent position.
Snagged him in redraft, and overpaid $180/1000 for him in a must start 1 K 16-team league and I’m ok with it.
Love this kid.
Still hate K
They may even try something crazy longer this year - he was allegedly/reportedly making them from 60+ with ease in warmups last week.
I’m sure he’s been talked about in here, but he’s gonna be a gold mine from an inconsistent position.
Snagged him in redraft, and overpaid $180/1000 for him in a must start 1 K 16-team league and I’m ok with it.
Love this kid.
Still hate K
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I may jump off the York train. Missed PAT are -1 so only K20 yesterday.
Boswell, Fairbarn, and Yoo seem like better options. Crosby, Lutz, Maher, Patterson, and Sanders also out there.
IIRC McPherson had some bad weeks the first half of his rookie season then really hit his stride. But he was on a much better offense.
Cleveland did sustain a lot of long drives yesterday, their run game is as good as we expected it to be.
Boswell, Fairbarn, and Yoo seem like better options. Crosby, Lutz, Maher, Patterson, and Sanders also out there.
IIRC McPherson had some bad weeks the first half of his rookie season then really hit his stride. But he was on a much better offense.
Cleveland did sustain a lot of long drives yesterday, their run game is as good as we expected it to be.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Reviving the streaming kicker...
Butker sits out there as a FA. Watching his status and ready to pounce. Noncommittal in KC at the moment with the ankle. Kickers can use good ankles.
In one league I shifted to McManus, but gotta stream elsewhere until the Broncos and Russ start to cook. Start Carlson in another league.
Looking at Lutz, Hopkins, and big leg York after Butker.
Butker sits out there as a FA. Watching his status and ready to pounce. Noncommittal in KC at the moment with the ankle. Kickers can use good ankles.
In one league I shifted to McManus, but gotta stream elsewhere until the Broncos and Russ start to cook. Start Carlson in another league.
Looking at Lutz, Hopkins, and big leg York after Butker.
With the uptick in 2pt conversions and teams going for it more on 4th down, it makes choosing a bit more complicated. Just being a high scoring offense isn't good enough, as evidenced by Harrison Butker the last 2 years. He is one of only four kickers to have over 100 EP attempts the last 2 years, but has finishes of K11 and K15. Meanwhile, Daniel Carlson has back-to-back K1 finishes on 80 EP attempts.
Here is a link to 2pt conversion attempts... https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-two-point-conversion-attempts-per-game
Here is a link to 2pt conversion attempts... https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-two-point-conversion-attempts-per-game
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Good points, we want risk adverse coaches matched up with kickers.
Ditto on pouncing on Butker. I drafted him and dropped him. Still sitting there.
Plan B and C are Hopkins and Elliott respectively. D would be the KC backup kicker who I can't spell.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
The Dallas K is interesting. Cowboys are #31 in points scored, but he's #13 in my fantasy league.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Butker in week 4? Hmmm
packer_junkie
Footballguy
Joseph is killing me.
Smart play is to probably stay the course-- I will probably roll the dice with somebody else this week
Succop, Patterson are the most intriguing to me
Smart play is to probably stay the course-- I will probably roll the dice with somebody else this week
Succop, Patterson are the most intriguing to me
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I’m on the Koo-mania train
So far so good
No bye until Week 14, one less weekly decision is nice
So far so good
No bye until Week 14, one less weekly decision is nice
latest news I saw was limited in practice and game-time decision
Oh wow didn't realize he's Sunday night, that's going to take him out of play for me most likely unfortunately.
Gould is on the wire in my league, so that's an option. And of course, whoever replaces him is an option. We have an IR slot in my league, so I'll be keeping a close eye on this.
Runkle
Footballguy
Siebert OUT. Eberle is the guy this week for the Lions.
montana_grizzly_bears
Footballguy
I dropped Joseph for Patterson, so that means you are getting mad points this weekend from Joseph and Patterson is putting up a goose egg (sorry everyone else)
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
Had enough of Philly's red zone efficiency so dropped Elliott for Gano, figure Giants will move the ball but stall plenty in the red zone...maybe 
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
FBG's have Eberle as the #1 kicker this week in their latest email rankings. Wow! Who is this guy? Yes, the Lions plan on putting up yardage and points, but a stall to an unknown kicker as #1 ranking, With Butker likely out my choices are now York or Eberle.
Edit: It appears that Eberle is a one-week play. Who knows in the kicking world. A good outing might keep him around. He has bounced around and was perfect on XP's at Utah State.
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