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The *ONE* Player That I Won't Be (1 Viewer)
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
Cool...keep the misinformation flowing.I drafted Vick as the 6th QB off the board and he finished 4th in the league on a ppg basis and 7th overall (1/25 and 4). That game he missed didn't hurt as McCown hung a 25 spot in his absence. So my McCown/Vick combo finished 3rd overall in the league, 6 points behind Brady and 20 behind Palmer.AgreedI have been saying this for a couple of years. Let Vick play like a top 10 fantasy QB consistently - then I will take a chance on him.Michael Vick
This dude just isn't a good FANTASY football player yet he always goes early. I don't get it but someone will reach again next year. You guys go right ahead I'll stick with the Jake Delhomme's of the world.
By the way, Vick finished 10th overall and 8th on a ppg basis in the FBG scoring system.
I said Palmer earlier but I think a better answer is that I will not draft any QB that is rated in the top 10 in preseason. My starting QB this year finished as the number 7 overall QB. In 10 of my 14 games I played a guy I picked up on waivers (guys like Harrington, McNown, Warner, and Brunell). In the other weeks I started guys I drafted after the 10th round. There are just so many decent QBs that anyone in the preseason consensus top 10 just isn't worth it.Cool...keep the misinformation flowing.I drafted Vick as the 6th QB off the board and he finished 4th in the league on a ppg basis and 7th overall (1/25 and 4). That game he missed didn't hurt as McCown hung a 25 spot in his absence. So my McCown/Vick combo finished 3rd overall in the league, 6 points behind Brady and 20 behind Palmer.AgreedI have been saying this for a couple of years. Let Vick play like a top 10 fantasy QB consistently - then I will take a chance on him.Michael Vick
This dude just isn't a good FANTASY football player yet he always goes early. I don't get it but someone will reach again next year. You guys go right ahead I'll stick with the Jake Delhomme's of the world.
By the way, Vick finished 10th overall and 8th on a ppg basis in the FBG scoring system.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Gee how'd you know I screwed up and took Gonzo over Gates this year 
Gates probably is still the only exception to that rule, but I don't think I'd take him at 4.02 and my next pick would be 5.09 Besides, I'd end up jinxing all the other Gates owners out there. But Gonzo? Only if he somehow dropped to 10.02
When I take a guy at the end the opposite happens and I get Randy McMichael suddenly catching every ball for the Dolphins
-QG
Gates probably is still the only exception to that rule, but I don't think I'd take him at 4.02 and my next pick would be 5.09 Besides, I'd end up jinxing all the other Gates owners out there. But Gonzo? Only if he somehow dropped to 10.02
When I take a guy at the end the opposite happens and I get Randy McMichael suddenly catching every ball for the Dolphins
-QG
Mr. Sparkle
Footballguy
Ashley Lelie 
jurb26
Footballguy
Guys I see very little chance of getting on my team:
RBs:
T.Barber - at his age I will not take a chance on this guy in the 1st round. He WILL be drafted in the 1st round this year. Heck he was last year in most of my leagues.
M.Anderson/Den RB - the buying price is just about always too high for this group IMO. It's always a jumbled mess the whole offseason and someone is always willing to roll the dice on any Den RB with a pulse come draft time simply by loooking at the history.
F.Taylor - I'm sticking a fork in him, I think he's done.
CMart - same as Taylor
WRs:
Galloway - career year and the price to buy this year will be inflated far too much for my taste.
R.Smith - his age is making me very nervous and so is the fact that Den seems intent on bringing in new flashy weapons at WR.
D.Stallworth - this guy will never stay healthy.
RBs:
T.Barber - at his age I will not take a chance on this guy in the 1st round. He WILL be drafted in the 1st round this year. Heck he was last year in most of my leagues.
M.Anderson/Den RB - the buying price is just about always too high for this group IMO. It's always a jumbled mess the whole offseason and someone is always willing to roll the dice on any Den RB with a pulse come draft time simply by loooking at the history.
F.Taylor - I'm sticking a fork in him, I think he's done.
CMart - same as Taylor
WRs:
Galloway - career year and the price to buy this year will be inflated far too much for my taste.
R.Smith - his age is making me very nervous and so is the fact that Den seems intent on bringing in new flashy weapons at WR.
D.Stallworth - this guy will never stay healthy.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
Peyton ManningThere, I said it.
My more obvious choice: Randy Moss. I am not sure he is an elite WR anymore, but he is sure to be one of the top 5 WR off the board.Not so obvious: I am definately avoiding Colts next year. I have a feeling things are NOT going to go well for them next year after the disasterous end to their perfect season.
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jurb26
Footballguy
I dont think you guys could be more off on this. Moss will likely be a 3rd round pick. That's 3rd round. Last year in an iinjury riddled and "off" year the guy had 1000+ and 8 Tds. That was a BAD year for Moss. I think much like 3 years ago, Moss will be one of the best values you can find in the 1st 3 rounds.
Urinal Mint
Footballguy
Anybody that plays for New Orleans.
On The Rocks
Footballguy
ditto
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
The majority of last year's redraft.QB-Aaron Brooks, GrieseRB-K.Jones, J.J.ArringtonWR-T.O., Horn, A.Johnson
Well let's see.....let's look at my roster from this year.....Vick: Injured every game. starts game, but leaves with injuryCadillac: would draft himPriest: only if I have LJ, periodKevin Jones: See VickRandy Moss: See VickI will just stop there, re-pissing myself off from the year that was
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
Have you guys even looked at his stats from last year? I don't know about your leagues, but in mine he finished as the #6 QB. In 2004 he was #12. 2003 was his injury year but in 2002 he was #2. I can't believe the disrespect he gets as a fantasy QB. The guy puts up great rushing numbers and he is improving as a passer. He's no Peyton Manning, but he's a starting fantasy QB.I have been saying this for a couple of years. Let Vick play like a top 10 fantasy QB consistently - then I will take a chance on him.Michael Vick
This dude just isn't a good FANTASY football player yet he always goes early. I don't get it but someone will reach again next year. You guys go right ahead I'll stick with the Jake Delhomme's of the world.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
Joe Horn burned me big time this year. Never again.
FF Thinker
Footballguy
You must have some crazy scoring system. Mine is 4pt/pass TD, 6pt/rush TD, -2/int or fumble, 2pt/20 yds rush. I think that is pretty standard and he finished 14th with 201 points this year and 18th last year. Of course if you give 6pt/pass TD than he would be better with all of those TDs he throwsHave you guys even looked at his stats from last year? I don't know about your leagues, but in mine he finished as the #6 QB. In 2004 he was #12. 2003 was his injury year but in 2002 he was #2. I can't believe the disrespect he gets as a fantasy QB. The guy puts up great rushing numbers and he is improving as a passer. He's no Peyton Manning, but he's a starting fantasy QB.I have been saying this for a couple of years. Let Vick play like a top 10 fantasy QB consistently - then I will take a chance on him.Michael Vick
This dude just isn't a good FANTASY football player yet he always goes early. I don't get it but someone will reach again next year. You guys go right ahead I'll stick with the Jake Delhomme's of the world.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
I am going to agree with those who said ##### McSuckister. He has killed my team two years in a row. Won't ever happen again. He never stays healthy. He is Fred Taylor without the upside.
Green Apple Splatter
Footballguy
Javier Vazquez
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
In 90% of scoring systems he finished top 10 in 2005.Your the one using a crazy scoring system if he was out of the top 10, FBG's scoring system and almost every other standard scoring system he was top 10.You must have some crazy scoring system. Mine is 4pt/pass TD, 6pt/rush TD, -2/int or fumble, 2pt/20 yds rush. I think that is pretty standard and he finished 14th with 201 points this year and 18th last year. Of course if you give 6pt/pass TD than he would be better with all of those TDs he throwsHave you guys even looked at his stats from last year? I don't know about your leagues, but in mine he finished as the #6 QB. In 2004 he was #12. 2003 was his injury year but in 2002 he was #2. I can't believe the disrespect he gets as a fantasy QB. The guy puts up great rushing numbers and he is improving as a passer. He's no Peyton Manning, but he's a starting fantasy QB.I have been saying this for a couple of years. Let Vick play like a top 10 fantasy QB consistently - then I will take a chance on him.Michael Vick
This dude just isn't a good FANTASY football player yet he always goes early. I don't get it but someone will reach again next year. You guys go right ahead I'll stick with the Jake Delhomme's of the world.
agreed.. led me to a 4-12 record in one of my leagues..
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Vick is a tough guy to analyze on the 2005 season. Some feel he was a dud while others think he was a bit of a steal. As an example, in one of my leagues with all TD = 6 pts, he went at 6.07. But he was the #6 QB off the board and ended the year ranked 8th (in our scoring system). With 7 of the 8 guys ranked ahead of him drafted after him, I'm not sure how valuable he actually was.He certainly is a risky play from week to week, and if you group him with a bunch of other QB that you can wait on to get, he probably won't really hurt or help your team all that much. But if you load up on other RB and WR (or a stud TE), he could well be good enough to win your league (or at least be a playoff team). But a lot of QB fall into that category.
I guess its Galloway because I don't like picking guys coming off huge years, especially early which is what I'd have to do to select him at this point.
All the Vick-bashing here makes me think I can get him cheaply. I'd pick Vick if I can get him cheaply. Its not like puts up horrible fanatasy numbers. You just can't depend upon him to be a difference-maker on your fantasy team.
If Curtis Martin hasn't retired, then I also would not select him either. He's not only old but his production is falling off. I just can't remember hearing anything about him retiring.
All the Vick-bashing here makes me think I can get him cheaply. I'd pick Vick if I can get him cheaply. Its not like puts up horrible fanatasy numbers. You just can't depend upon him to be a difference-maker on your fantasy team.
If Curtis Martin hasn't retired, then I also would not select him either. He's not only old but his production is falling off. I just can't remember hearing anything about him retiring.
