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***The Super Bowl XLV Thread*** - Green Bay vs. Pittsburgh (1 Viewer)

With all of the injuries the Packers have had, I have a hard time feeling sorry for the Steelers regarding Pouncey. If anything it levels the field a bit.
Because the Steelers aren't already missing both starting tackles and their Pro Bowl DE and have their All Pro safety playing at about 70%?
 
Timing of injuries and the quality of the injured players is more important than volume of injuries too, though. When Colon got hurt, that was a blow, but it enabled the Steelers to sign Flozell Adams. When Starks got hurt, they had time to try replacements and work a guy in over the course of several weeks. Most of the Packers' major injuries happened a while ago, allowing backups to develop. There's no replacing a Pro Bowl center on the eve of the Super Bowl. We saw 2 botched snaps in 3 quarters with Legursky in there (he's primarily a guard, BTW.) That's not even considering how well he'll hold up vs. Raji.Pouncey injury is the most significant on either side. Unless, of course, you count Polamalu being essentially MIA the last two weeks. I suspect his Achilles injury is a lot worse than they're letting on, though I'm praying it's been the scheme and teams avoiding him that have kept his name out of announcer's mouths.
I agree. Personally I'd like to see the kid have a chance to play. That would really suck for him if he couldn't go.
 
Timing of injuries and the quality of the injured players is more important than volume of injuries too, though. When Colon got hurt, that was a blow, but it enabled the Steelers to sign Flozell Adams. When Starks got hurt, they had time to try replacements and work a guy in over the course of several weeks. Most of the Packers' major injuries happened a while ago, allowing backups to develop. There's no replacing a Pro Bowl center on the eve of the Super Bowl. We saw 2 botched snaps in 3 quarters with Legursky in there (he's primarily a guard, BTW.) That's not even considering how well he'll hold up vs. Raji.Pouncey injury is the most significant on either side. Unless, of course, you count Polamalu being essentially MIA the last two weeks. I suspect his Achilles injury is a lot worse than they're letting on, though I'm praying it's been the scheme and teams avoiding him that have kept his name out of announcer's mouths.
:thumbup: All of the debate about whether or not Ben played a good game against the Jets, he is going to have to play the game of his life for the Steelers to win. He'll have to be better than what he was against the Jets. Right now, I don't like our chances in this game.
 
56 Barnett, Nick LB 6-2 236 29 8 Oregon State

Bell, Josh CB 5-11 177 26 3 Baylor

42 Burnett, Morgan S 6-1 209 22 R Georgia Tech

54 Chillar, Brandon LB 6-3 237 28 7 UCLA

88 Finley, Jermichael TE 6-5 247 23 3 Texas

25 Grant, Ryan RB 6-1 222 28 4 Notre Dame

91 Harrell, Justin DE 6-4 315 26 4 Tennessee

41 Havner, Spencer TE 6-3 250 27 2 UCLA

59 Jones, Brad LB 6-3 242 24 2 Colorado

34 Levine, Anthony S 5-11 199 23 R Tennessee State

29 Martin, Derrick S 5-10 198 25 5 Wyoming

96 Neal, Mike DE 6-3 294 23 R Purdue

74 Newhouse, Marshall G/T 6-4 319 22 R Texas Christian

51 Poppinga, Brady LB 6-3 250 31 6 Brigham Young

27 Smith, Anthony S 6-0 200 27 5 Syracuse

65 Tauscher, Mark

Barnett was the Packers leading Tackler last season. One of 4 L.B.'s on I.R. When a team plays a 3-4 Linebacker lss can be significant. In addition to the 4 on I.R. the Packers have Zombo and Walden currently injured. They are a long way down the depth chart here.

Burnett was slated to be a starter.

Brandon Chillar was a starter

Finley was arguably the most impactful T.E. in the game. Certainly a top 5 talent and a very real loss.

Grant, well a team's starting runningback's worth cannot be overstated.

Jones was a starting L.B.

Mike Neal was looked at as being a solid rotation on a d-line that is undermanned.

Poppinga has been a starter but it was not clear he would be this year. He would have had a number of packages though.

Tauscher, well he was a starter.

On the entire list Harrell was the only questionable guy. The others were substitute package players, replacements for already injured, or expected to have special teams impact. The Packers injuries have been devastating and significant beyond really being able to be overstated or exaggerated.

The Steeler injuries have been fewer and not as significant. That said they have been concentrated in the unit perhaps most in need of continuity, and Pouncey's of course is very recent. This is a very significant injury if he cannot go, or if he plays with limited effectiveness.

f there is to be a "woe is me" contest on injuries the Packers will win, but the Steelers do have arguments here. I note that both coaches have kept their teams from succumbing to injuries as excuses. It is among the reasons each would have made a better choice for coach of the year than Bellicheck. I think I will follow their example and not concentrate on this excuse any further. The teams will hit the field and play with what they have and the outcome will not go in the books with an astericks by either team denoting injuries.

 
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56 Barnett, Nick LB 6-2 236 29 8 Oregon State Bell, Josh CB 5-11 177 26 3 Baylor 42 Burnett, Morgan S 6-1 209 22 R Georgia Tech 54 Chillar, Brandon LB 6-3 237 28 7 UCLA 88 Finley, Jermichael TE 6-5 247 23 3 Texas 25 Grant, Ryan RB 6-1 222 28 4 Notre Dame 91 Harrell, Justin DE 6-4 315 26 4 Tennessee 41 Havner, Spencer TE 6-3 250 27 2 UCLA 59 Jones, Brad LB 6-3 242 24 2 Colorado 34 Levine, Anthony S 5-11 199 23 R Tennessee State 29 Martin, Derrick S 5-10 198 25 5 Wyoming 96 Neal, Mike DE 6-3 294 23 R Purdue 74 Newhouse, Marshall G/T 6-4 319 22 R Texas Christian 51 Poppinga, Brady LB 6-3 250 31 6 Brigham Young 27 Smith, Anthony S 6-0 200 27 5 Syracuse 65 Tauscher, Mark Barnett was the Packers leading Tackler last season. One of 4 L.B.'s on I.R. When a team plays a 3-4 Linebacker lss can be significant. In addition to the 4 on I.R. the Packers have Zombo and Walden currently injured. They are a long way down the depth chart here.Burnett was slatted to be a starter.Brandon chillar was a starterFinley was arguably the most impactful T.E. in the game. Certainly a top 5 talent and a very real loss.Grant, well a team's starting runningback's worth cannot be overstated.Jones was a starting L.B.Mike Neal was looked at as being a solid rotation on a d-line that is undermanned.Poppinga has been a starter but it was not clear he would be this year. He would have had a number of packages though.Tauscher, well he was a starter.On the entire list harrell was the only questionable guy. the others were substitute package players, replacements for already injured, or expected to have special teams impact. The Packers injuries have been devastating and significant beyond really being able to be overstated or exaggerated.The Steeler injuries have been fewer and not as significant. That said they have been concentrated in the unit perhaps most in need of continuity, and Pouncey's of course is very recent. If there is to be a "woe is me" contet on injuries the Packers will win, but the Steelers do have arguments here. I note that both coaches have kept their teams from succumbing to injuries as excuses. It is among the reasons each would have made a better choice for coach of the year than Bellicheck. I think I will follow their example and not concentrate on this excuse any further. The teams will hit the field and play with what they have and the outcome will not go in the books with an astericks by either team denoting injuries.
Also a :thumbup: Regardless of injuries, these 2 teams are both here for a reason. There should be no excuses at this stage of the season. I don't like the Steelers chances but all it takes is one win.
 
56 Barnett, Nick LB 6-2 236 29 8 Oregon State Bell, Josh CB 5-11 177 26 3 Baylor 42 Burnett, Morgan S 6-1 209 22 R Georgia Tech 54 Chillar, Brandon LB 6-3 237 28 7 UCLA 88 Finley, Jermichael TE 6-5 247 23 3 Texas 25 Grant, Ryan RB 6-1 222 28 4 Notre Dame 91 Harrell, Justin DE 6-4 315 26 4 Tennessee 41 Havner, Spencer TE 6-3 250 27 2 UCLA 59 Jones, Brad LB 6-3 242 24 2 Colorado 34 Levine, Anthony S 5-11 199 23 R Tennessee State 29 Martin, Derrick S 5-10 198 25 5 Wyoming 96 Neal, Mike DE 6-3 294 23 R Purdue 74 Newhouse, Marshall G/T 6-4 319 22 R Texas Christian 51 Poppinga, Brady LB 6-3 250 31 6 Brigham Young 27 Smith, Anthony S 6-0 200 27 5 Syracuse 65 Tauscher, Mark Barnett was the Packers leading Tackler last season. One of 4 L.B.'s on I.R. When a team plays a 3-4 Linebacker lss can be significant. In addition to the 4 on I.R. the Packers have Zombo and Walden currently injured. They are a long way down the depth chart here.Burnett was slatted to be a starter.Brandon chillar was a starterFinley was arguably the most impactful T.E. in the game. Certainly a top 5 talent and a very real loss.Grant, well a team's starting runningback's worth cannot be overstated.Jones was a starting L.B.Mike Neal was looked at as being a solid rotation on a d-line that is undermanned.Poppinga has been a starter but it was not clear he would be this year. He would have had a number of packages though.Tauscher, well he was a starter.On the entire list harrell was the only questionable guy. the others were substitute package players, replacements for already injured, or expected to have special teams impact. The Packers injuries have been devastating and significant beyond really being able to be overstated or exaggerated.The Steeler injuries have been fewer and not as significant. That said they have been concentrated in the unit perhaps most in need of continuity, and Pouncey's of course is very recent. If there is to be a "woe is me" contet on injuries the Packers will win, but the Steelers do have arguments here. I note that both coaches have kept their teams from succumbing to injuries as excuses. It is among the reasons each would have made a better choice for coach of the year than Bellicheck. I think I will follow their example and not concentrate on this excuse any further. The teams will hit the field and play with what they have and the outcome will not go in the books with an astericks by either team denoting injuries.
Also a :goodposting: Regardless of injuries, these 2 teams are both here for a reason. There should be no excuses at this stage of the season. I don't like the Steelers chances but all it takes is one win.
The fact that the Packers are favored despite the onslaught of injuries really speaks to Ted Thompson's skill as a GM. This team was very topheavy when he took over and had no depth anywhere. Now they are the deepest team in the NFL. And perhaps the best as well.
 
The fact that the Packers are favored despite the onslaught of injuries really speaks to Ted Thompson's skill as a GM. This team was very topheavy when he took over and had no depth anywhere. Now they are the deepest team in the NFL. And perhaps the best as well.
You know the point spread is just so Vegas makes its money, right?
 
Just to clarify, if the Steelers lose, I may lament the injuries, but I won't use them as an excuse. I'll simply tip my cap to another great franchise and congratulate all you Packers fans on your win.

To be honest, I'm having a hard time generating any "hatred" for Green Bay. They're my second-favorite team. I root for them when the Steelers aren't involved. I like their uniforms, their team, their fans, their tradition, their tailgating, Lambeau Field, everything about them. If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.

If you'd given me the option of 14-4 and an AFC title, but a SB loss, at the beginning of the season, I'd probably have taken it, given all that happened during the offseason. Most pundits (Peter King and myself excluded - :goodposting: ) gave the Steelers little chance to have a winning record or make the playoffs, let alone get this far. The season has been a success already as far as I'm concerned. That said, it's still going to suck balls if they lose this game, but at the very least, they'd be losing to a team and franchise I respect the hell out of, and a team with fans that deserve to carry the crown.

 
Just to clarify, if the Steelers lose, I may lament the injuries, but I won't use them as an excuse. I'll simply tip my cap to another great franchise and congratulate all you Packers fans on your win.

To be honest, I'm having a hard time generating any "hatred" for Green Bay. They're my second-favorite team. I root for them when the Steelers aren't involved. I like their uniforms, their team, their fans, their tradition, their tailgating, Lambeau Field, everything about them. If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.

If you'd given me the option of 14-4 and an AFC title, but a SB loss, at the beginning of the season, I'd probably have taken it, given all that happened during the offseason. Most pundits (Peter King and myself excluded - :lol: ) gave the Steelers little chance to have a winning record or make the playoffs, let alone get this far. The season has been a success already as far as I'm concerned. That said, it's still going to suck balls if they lose this game, but at the very least, they'd be losing to a team and franchise I respect the hell out of, and a team with fans that deserve to carry the crown.
Saberdoof is making this easy for me. :lmao: This is the SB, so it doesn't take much, always hated Favre too :hot:

 
Just to clarify, if the Steelers lose, I may lament the injuries, but I won't use them as an excuse. I'll simply tip my cap to another great franchise and congratulate all you Packers fans on your win.

To be honest, I'm having a hard time generating any "hatred" for Green Bay. They're my second-favorite team. I root for them when the Steelers aren't involved. I like their uniforms, their team, their fans, their tradition, their tailgating, Lambeau Field, everything about them. If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.

If you'd given me the option of 14-4 and an AFC title, but a SB loss, at the beginning of the season, I'd probably have taken it, given all that happened during the offseason. Most pundits (Peter King and myself excluded - :lmao: ) gave the Steelers little chance to have a winning record or make the playoffs, let alone get this far. The season has been a success already as far as I'm concerned. That said, it's still going to suck balls if they lose this game, but at the very least, they'd be losing to a team and franchise I respect the hell out of, and a team with fans that deserve to carry the crown.
I know. I've been trying to cast out fish throughout this whole thread and there just isn't much action. Packers and Steelers are very similar franchises. Lots of HOF players, lots of success. Legends galore. And they are both so blue collar. Just like their towns.
 
Just to clarify, if the Steelers lose, I may lament the injuries, but I won't use them as an excuse. I'll simply tip my cap to another great franchise and congratulate all you Packers fans on your win.To be honest, I'm having a hard time generating any "hatred" for Green Bay. They're my second-favorite team. I root for them when the Steelers aren't involved. I like their uniforms, their team, their fans, their tradition, their tailgating, Lambeau Field, everything about them. If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.If you'd given me the option of 14-4 and an AFC title, but a SB loss, at the beginning of the season, I'd probably have taken it, given all that happened during the offseason. Most pundits (Peter King and myself excluded - :lmao: ) gave the Steelers little chance to have a winning record or make the playoffs, let alone get this far. The season has been a success already as far as I'm concerned. That said, it's still going to suck balls if they lose this game, but at the very least, they'd be losing to a team and franchise I respect the hell out of, and a team with fans that deserve to carry the crown.
Well said.And I don't have any real hate for the Steelers either. Just an old school team that has earned a lot of respect.And Id say the same thing...back when GB was 3-3...and even after the Detroit loss if you would tell me they got to the SB and lost...I would have told you that you were crazy for saying they got there. But now that its close...a win is what we are all after.
 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Just to clarify, if the Steelers lose, I may lament the injuries, but I won't use them as an excuse. I'll simply tip my cap to another great franchise and congratulate all you Packers fans on your win.To be honest, I'm having a hard time generating any "hatred" for Green Bay. They're my second-favorite team. I root for them when the Steelers aren't involved. I like their uniforms, their team, their fans, their tradition, their tailgating, Lambeau Field, everything about them. If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.If you'd given me the option of 14-4 and an AFC title, but a SB loss, at the beginning of the season, I'd probably have taken it, given all that happened during the offseason. Most pundits (Peter King and myself excluded - :goodposting: ) gave the Steelers little chance to have a winning record or make the playoffs, let alone get this far. The season has been a success already as far as I'm concerned. That said, it's still going to suck balls if they lose this game, but at the very least, they'd be losing to a team and franchise I respect the hell out of, and a team with fans that deserve to carry the crown.
More or less the mirror of my feeling on the Steelers. They hung together through Roethlisberger's absence. They did not fold when they lost their tackles, and I remember what a loss of tackles did to the Packers Offense in past years. I expect they are going to find a way to be dangerous with or without Pouncy. I rate the game "pick em", and if the Packers have to lose I would have them do so to a team whose fan base I do not hate and actually can relate to in many ways and which is unlikely to seek to rub salt in the wounds.
 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Just to clarify, if the Steelers lose, I may lament the injuries, but I won't use them as an excuse. I'll simply tip my cap to another great franchise and congratulate all you Packers fans on your win.To be honest, I'm having a hard time generating any "hatred" for Green Bay. They're my second-favorite team. I root for them when the Steelers aren't involved. I like their uniforms, their team, their fans, their tradition, their tailgating, Lambeau Field, everything about them. If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.If you'd given me the option of 14-4 and an AFC title, but a SB loss, at the beginning of the season, I'd probably have taken it, given all that happened during the offseason. Most pundits (Peter King and myself excluded - :lol: ) gave the Steelers little chance to have a winning record or make the playoffs, let alone get this far. The season has been a success already as far as I'm concerned. That said, it's still going to suck balls if they lose this game, but at the very least, they'd be losing to a team and franchise I respect the hell out of, and a team with fans that deserve to carry the crown.
More or less the mirror of my feeling on the Steelers. They hung together through Roethlisberger's absence. They did not fold when they lost their tackles, and I remember what a loss of tackles did to the Packers Offense in past years. I expect they are going to find a way to be dangerous with or without Pouncy. I rate the game "pick em", and if the Packers have to lose I would have them do so to a team whose fan base I do not hate and actually can relate to in many ways and which is unlikely to seek to rub salt in the wounds.
After the 2009 SB, I came in here and basically started a thread to tell the Cards fans : "Hey, I know how much it sucks to finally get this far and lose, but try not to take it too hard - you had an incredible season, try to enjoy that rather than focusing on one game, etc." and I got ripped for being a condescending tool and treating the Cardinals like a "nice little team" and was summarily told to stuff my sentiments up my ###. Lesson learned. :unsure:
 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Just to clarify, if the Steelers lose, I may lament the injuries, but I won't use them as an excuse. I'll simply tip my cap to another great franchise and congratulate all you Packers fans on your win.To be honest, I'm having a hard time generating any "hatred" for Green Bay. They're my second-favorite team. I root for them when the Steelers aren't involved. I like their uniforms, their team, their fans, their tradition, their tailgating, Lambeau Field, everything about them. If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.If you'd given me the option of 14-4 and an AFC title, but a SB loss, at the beginning of the season, I'd probably have taken it, given all that happened during the offseason. Most pundits (Peter King and myself excluded - :lol: ) gave the Steelers little chance to have a winning record or make the playoffs, let alone get this far. The season has been a success already as far as I'm concerned. That said, it's still going to suck balls if they lose this game, but at the very least, they'd be losing to a team and franchise I respect the hell out of, and a team with fans that deserve to carry the crown.
More or less the mirror of my feeling on the Steelers. They hung together through Roethlisberger's absence. They did not fold when they lost their tackles, and I remember what a loss of tackles did to the Packers Offense in past years. I expect they are going to find a way to be dangerous with or without Pouncy. I rate the game "pick em", and if the Packers have to lose I would have them do so to a team whose fan base I do not hate and actually can relate to in many ways and which is unlikely to seek to rub salt in the wounds.
After the 2009 SB, I came in here and basically started a thread to tell the Cards fans : "Hey, I know how much it sucks to finally get this far and lose, but try not to take it too hard - you had an incredible season, try to enjoy that rather than focusing on one game, etc." and I got ripped for being a condescending tool and treating the Cardinals like a "nice little team" and was summarily told to stuff my sentiments up my ###. Lesson learned. :unsure:
:lol:I just went back and found that thread and it was Shining Path who said :"As a Cardinals fan, I want to tell you to take your smug condescension and stick it up my ####### ###"Then, at the end of the thread, he reveals that he's not even a Cardinals fan and just thought that post would be fun to type. :lmao:I miss that dude.
 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Just to clarify, if the Steelers lose, I may lament the injuries, but I won't use them as an excuse. I'll simply tip my cap to another great franchise and congratulate all you Packers fans on your win.To be honest, I'm having a hard time generating any "hatred" for Green Bay. They're my second-favorite team. I root for them when the Steelers aren't involved. I like their uniforms, their team, their fans, their tradition, their tailgating, Lambeau Field, everything about them. If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.If you'd given me the option of 14-4 and an AFC title, but a SB loss, at the beginning of the season, I'd probably have taken it, given all that happened during the offseason. Most pundits (Peter King and myself excluded - :stalker: ) gave the Steelers little chance to have a winning record or make the playoffs, let alone get this far. The season has been a success already as far as I'm concerned. That said, it's still going to suck balls if they lose this game, but at the very least, they'd be losing to a team and franchise I respect the hell out of, and a team with fans that deserve to carry the crown.
More or less the mirror of my feeling on the Steelers. They hung together through Roethlisberger's absence. They did not fold when they lost their tackles, and I remember what a loss of tackles did to the Packers Offense in past years. I expect they are going to find a way to be dangerous with or without Pouncy. I rate the game "pick em", and if the Packers have to lose I would have them do so to a team whose fan base I do not hate and actually can relate to in many ways and which is unlikely to seek to rub salt in the wounds.
After the 2009 SB, I came in here and basically started a thread to tell the Cards fans : "Hey, I know how much it sucks to finally get this far and lose, but try not to take it too hard - you had an incredible season, try to enjoy that rather than focusing on one game, etc." and I got ripped for being a condescending tool and treating the Cardinals like a "nice little team" and was summarily told to stuff my sentiments up my ###. Lesson learned. :football:
:thumbup:I just went back and found that thread and it was Shining Path who said :"As a Cardinals fan, I want to tell you to take your smug condescension and stick it up my ####### ###"Then, at the end of the thread, he reveals that he's not even a Cardinals fan and just thought that post would be fun to type. :excited:I miss that dude.
Yeah, he was pretty good.
 
I'm ready for the game. I wish they would play the championship games on Saturdays and have the Superbowl the following Sunday. It would give one more day of rest than normal, but would preserve some continuity for the season. I know it would be more difficult on families of players that wish to travel, and on fans who wish to travel, but like I said, I am ready for the game.

 
I'm ready for the game. I wish they would play the championship games on Saturdays and have the Superbowl the following Sunday. It would give one more day of rest than normal, but would preserve some continuity for the season. I know it would be more difficult on families of players that wish to travel, and on fans who wish to travel, but like I said, I am ready for the game.
I wish they would do the only thing that makes sense and shift the Super Bowl from Sunday to Saturday. I already know I'm going to be comatose at work that Monday.
 
I'm ready for the game. I wish they would play the championship games on Saturdays and have the Superbowl the following Sunday. It would give one more day of rest than normal, but would preserve some continuity for the season. I know it would be more difficult on families of players that wish to travel, and on fans who wish to travel, but like I said, I am ready for the game.
I wish they would do the only thing that makes sense and shift the Super Bowl from Sunday to Saturday. I already know I'm going to be comatose at work that Monday.
This. I still don't understand how it's a Sunday NIGHT!!!
 
I'm ready for the game. I wish they would play the championship games on Saturdays and have the Superbowl the following Sunday. It would give one more day of rest than normal, but would preserve some continuity for the season. I know it would be more difficult on families of players that wish to travel, and on fans who wish to travel, but like I said, I am ready for the game.
I wish they would do the only thing that makes sense and shift the Super Bowl from Sunday to Saturday. I already know I'm going to be comatose at work that Monday.
Best option is to just take a vacation day on Monday.
 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Just to clarify, if the Steelers lose, I may lament the injuries, but I won't use them as an excuse. I'll simply tip my cap to another great franchise and congratulate all you Packers fans on your win.

To be honest, I'm having a hard time generating any "hatred" for Green Bay. They're my second-favorite team. I root for them when the Steelers aren't involved. I like their uniforms, their team, their fans, their tradition, their tailgating, Lambeau Field, everything about them. If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.

If you'd given me the option of 14-4 and an AFC title, but a SB loss, at the beginning of the season, I'd probably have taken it, given all that happened during the offseason. Most pundits (Peter King and myself excluded - :lol: ) gave the Steelers little chance to have a winning record or make the playoffs, let alone get this far. The season has been a success already as far as I'm concerned. That said, it's still going to suck balls if they lose this game, but at the very least, they'd be losing to a team and franchise I respect the hell out of, and a team with fans that deserve to carry the crown.
More or less the mirror of my feeling on the Steelers. They hung together through Roethlisberger's absence. They did not fold when they lost their tackles, and I remember what a loss of tackles did to the Packers Offense in past years. I expect they are going to find a way to be dangerous with or without Pouncy. I rate the game "pick em", and if the Packers have to lose I would have them do so to a team whose fan base I do not hate and actually can relate to in many ways and which is unlikely to seek to rub salt in the wounds.
After the 2009 SB, I came in here and basically started a thread to tell the Cards fans : "Hey, I know how much it sucks to finally get this far and lose, but try not to take it too hard - you had an incredible season, try to enjoy that rather than focusing on one game, etc." and I got ripped for being a condescending tool and treating the Cardinals like a "nice little team" and was summarily told to stuff my sentiments up my ###. Lesson learned. :thumbup:
:coffee: I just went back and found that thread and it was Shining Path who said :

"As a Cardinals fan, I want to tell you to take your smug condescension and stick it up my ####### ###"

Then, at the end of the thread, he reveals that he's not even a Cardinals fan and just thought that post would be fun to type. :o

I miss that dude.
So, he wanted the condescension up his ###?
 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Just to clarify, if the Steelers lose, I may lament the injuries, but I won't use them as an excuse. I'll simply tip my cap to another great franchise and congratulate all you Packers fans on your win.To be honest, I'm having a hard time generating any "hatred" for Green Bay. They're my second-favorite team. I root for them when the Steelers aren't involved. I like their uniforms, their team, their fans, their tradition, their tailgating, Lambeau Field, everything about them. If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.If you'd given me the option of 14-4 and an AFC title, but a SB loss, at the beginning of the season, I'd probably have taken it, given all that happened during the offseason. Most pundits (Peter King and myself excluded - :lol: ) gave the Steelers little chance to have a winning record or make the playoffs, let alone get this far. The season has been a success already as far as I'm concerned. That said, it's still going to suck balls if they lose this game, but at the very least, they'd be losing to a team and franchise I respect the hell out of, and a team with fans that deserve to carry the crown.
More or less the mirror of my feeling on the Steelers. They hung together through Roethlisberger's absence. They did not fold when they lost their tackles, and I remember what a loss of tackles did to the Packers Offense in past years. I expect they are going to find a way to be dangerous with or without Pouncy. I rate the game "pick em", and if the Packers have to lose I would have them do so to a team whose fan base I do not hate and actually can relate to in many ways and which is unlikely to seek to rub salt in the wounds.
After the 2009 SB, I came in here and basically started a thread to tell the Cards fans : "Hey, I know how much it sucks to finally get this far and lose, but try not to take it too hard - you had an incredible season, try to enjoy that rather than focusing on one game, etc." and I got ripped for being a condescending tool and treating the Cardinals like a "nice little team" and was summarily told to stuff my sentiments up my ###. Lesson learned. :loco:
Maybe when we get 6 Super Bowl rings we'll be understanding.
 
I'm ready for the game. I wish they would play the championship games on Saturdays and have the Superbowl the following Sunday. It would give one more day of rest than normal, but would preserve some continuity for the season. I know it would be more difficult on families of players that wish to travel, and on fans who wish to travel, but like I said, I am ready for the game.
I wish they would do the only thing that makes sense and shift the Super Bowl from Sunday to Saturday. I already know I'm going to be comatose at work that Monday.
That would also be an improvement.
 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Just to clarify, if the Steelers lose, I may lament the injuries, but I won't use them as an excuse. I'll simply tip my cap to another great franchise and congratulate all you Packers fans on your win.

To be honest, I'm having a hard time generating any "hatred" for Green Bay. They're my second-favorite team. I root for them when the Steelers aren't involved. I like their uniforms, their team, their fans, their tradition, their tailgating, Lambeau Field, everything about them. If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.

If you'd given me the option of 14-4 and an AFC title, but a SB loss, at the beginning of the season, I'd probably have taken it, given all that happened during the offseason. Most pundits (Peter King and myself excluded - :lol: ) gave the Steelers little chance to have a winning record or make the playoffs, let alone get this far. The season has been a success already as far as I'm concerned. That said, it's still going to suck balls if they lose this game, but at the very least, they'd be losing to a team and franchise I respect the hell out of, and a team with fans that deserve to carry the crown.
More or less the mirror of my feeling on the Steelers. They hung together through Roethlisberger's absence. They did not fold when they lost their tackles, and I remember what a loss of tackles did to the Packers Offense in past years. I expect they are going to find a way to be dangerous with or without Pouncy. I rate the game "pick em", and if the Packers have to lose I would have them do so to a team whose fan base I do not hate and actually can relate to in many ways and which is unlikely to seek to rub salt in the wounds.
After the 2009 SB, I came in here and basically started a thread to tell the Cards fans : "Hey, I know how much it sucks to finally get this far and lose, but try not to take it too hard - you had an incredible season, try to enjoy that rather than focusing on one game, etc." and I got ripped for being a condescending tool and treating the Cardinals like a "nice little team" and was summarily told to stuff my sentiments up my ###. Lesson learned. :excited:
:bag: I just went back and found that thread and it was Shining Path who said :

"As a Cardinals fan, I want to tell you to take your smug condescension and stick it up my ####### ###"

Then, at the end of the thread, he reveals that he's not even a Cardinals fan and just thought that post would be fun to type. :lmao:

I miss that dude.
So, he wanted the condescension up his ###?
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Woops. Misquoted the legend there.

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.
The Cardinals were founded in 1898 and were a charter member of the NFL.
 
Evilgrin 72 said:
If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.
The Cardinals were founded in 1898 and were a charter member of the NFL.
The Lions have been around forever too, so have the Browns. The point is not how old they are, it's their record of success (particularly recent success.) Maybe upstart wasn't right word to use. Arizona had won, what, 1 playoff game in the Super Bowl era prior to that season?
 
McCarthy: Time Off Helped Players

Posted by Mike Vandermause January 28th, 2011, 12:55 pm

Highlights from Mike McCarthy’s press conference today:

*4 days off really helped out players and their bodies. Important to be smart with today’s practice. Will build up tomorrow.

*Am aware of history with Steelers, but we’re preparing to win a football game. That must be our focus.

*We take pride in our protection scheme. QB is most important part of offense, which is predicated on him being successful. We spend lot of time on our protections and blitz pickups. Have excellent training ground.

*Last year’s game vs. Steelers, it is a different year, they’re different, we’re different. You look at what they have done. Statistically they are top 5 in most categories on defense. EVery game is different, every path is different.

*First Super Bowl memory was Steelers beating Vikings in low scoring game. Pittsburgh very similar to Wisconsin. It’s all about your home team.

*Brandon Jackon performed very well last year vs. Steelers in protection. Will be point in this game where our running backs will have to close the door. James Starks off to good start in terms of protection.

*Frank Zombo practiced today. Will give Walden weekend to recover.

*It was great to get back to football. Great to get back on field. Finished 13 minutes early which tells you something about tempo. Very pleased with practice today.

Talking about NFL history?

1920

• The American Professional Football Association was officially organized to begin play in the fall.

Here are the original teams:

• Akron Professionals

• Buffalo All-Americans

• Canton Bulldogs

Chicago Cardinals

• Chicago Tigers

• Cleveland Tigers

• Columbus Panhandles

• Dayton Triangles

• Decatur Staleys

• Detroit Heralds

• Hammond Pros

• Muncie Flyers

• Rochester (N.Y.) Jeffersons

• Rock Island Independents

• The Chicago Tigers folded after the 1920 season.

1921

The Decatur Staleys moved to Chicago but retain the name Staleys .

They became the Bears.

The following teams joined the APFA for the 1921 season:

• Cincinnati Celts

• Evansville Crimson Giants

Green Bay Packers

• Louisville Brecks

• Minneapolis Marines

New York Brickleys Giants

• Tonawanda Kardex

• Washington Senators

The following teams folded after the 1921 season:

• Cincinnati Celts

• Cleveland Tigers

• Detroit Heralds

• Muncie Flyers

• New York Brickleys Giants

• Tonawanda Kardex

• Washington Senators

The fifth-oldest franchise in the NFL, the Steelers were founded on July 8, 1933 by Arthur Joseph Rooney. Originally named the Pittsburgh Pirates, they were a member of the Eastern Division of the 10-team NFL. The other four current NFL teams in existence at that time were the Chicago (Arizona) Cardinals, Green Bay Packers, Chicago Bears and New York Giants.11/30/2009

1934: **** Richards leads a group that purchases the Portsmouth Spartans for the staggering price of $7,952.08, moving them to Detroit, where in keeping with the jungle tradition with other Detroit nicknames the team utilizes the name Lions. The Lions play their first game ever on September 23rd at the old University of Detroit Stadium, and beat the New York Giants by a score of 9-0 in front of 12,000 fans. The Lions would go on to win their first 10 games that included 7 straight shutouts. Four days after their first loss the Lions host the Chicago Bears on Thanksgiving establishing a new tradition. The Lions would lose the key game 16-13, and would go on to finish their inaugural campaign with a 10-3 record.

 
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McCarthy: Time Off Helped Players

*Last year’s game vs. Steelers, it is a different year, they’re different, we’re different. You look at what they have done. Statistically they are top 5 in most categories on defense. EVery game is different, every path is different.
This is very true.
 
Just to clarify, if the Steelers lose, I may lament the injuries, but I won't use them as an excuse. I'll simply tip my cap to another great franchise and congratulate all you Packers fans on your win.To be honest, I'm having a hard time generating any "hatred" for Green Bay. They're my second-favorite team. I root for them when the Steelers aren't involved. I like their uniforms, their team, their fans, their tradition, their tailgating, Lambeau Field, everything about them. If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.If you'd given me the option of 14-4 and an AFC title, but a SB loss, at the beginning of the season, I'd probably have taken it, given all that happened during the offseason. Most pundits (Peter King and myself excluded - :lol: ) gave the Steelers little chance to have a winning record or make the playoffs, let alone get this far. The season has been a success already as far as I'm concerned. That said, it's still going to suck balls if they lose this game, but at the very least, they'd be losing to a team and franchise I respect the hell out of, and a team with fans that deserve to carry the crown.
Ditto although my brother in law is a Packers fan so there's that. :yes:
 
Just to clarify, if the Steelers lose, I may lament the injuries, but I won't use them as an excuse. I'll simply tip my cap to another great franchise and congratulate all you Packers fans on your win.To be honest, I'm having a hard time generating any "hatred" for Green Bay. They're my second-favorite team. I root for them when the Steelers aren't involved. I like their uniforms, their team, their fans, their tradition, their tailgating, Lambeau Field, everything about them. If the Steelers lose, I'll be bummed for sure, but it won't be anything like it would have been if they'd lost to Seattle or Arizona. The Packers are no upstart franchise.If you'd given me the option of 14-4 and an AFC title, but a SB loss, at the beginning of the season, I'd probably have taken it, given all that happened during the offseason. Most pundits (Peter King and myself excluded - :lol: ) gave the Steelers little chance to have a winning record or make the playoffs, let alone get this far. The season has been a success already as far as I'm concerned. That said, it's still going to suck balls if they lose this game, but at the very least, they'd be losing to a team and franchise I respect the hell out of, and a team with fans that deserve to carry the crown.
Ditto although my brother in law is a Packers fan so there's that. :yes:
Can't you dig up some type of who's hottest on this one Frank?
 
McCarthy: Time Off Helped Players

*Last year’s game vs. Steelers, it is a different year, they’re different, we’re different. You look at what they have done. Statistically they are top 5 in most categories on defense. EVery game is different, every path is different.
This is very true.
Yup...Troy P didn't play in that game and the Packer defense was terrible against top QBs last year.Both teams will look different come game time.

 
From Lolley today:

The Steelers held their final practice on Friday before leaving for Dallas Monday morning and got some good news. Cornerback Bryant McFadden, safety Troy Polamalu and wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders were all back on the field for the first time this week.Left tackle Jonathan Scott (ribs), center Maurkice Pouncey (ankle) and safety Will Allen (knee) all sat out again.Nobody has been talking about the injury to Scott, but the fact that he's still missing practices is concerning.Trai Essex would start at left tackle if Scott is unable to play – though word is that he is expected to tough it out.
 
From Lolley today:

The Steelers held their final practice on Friday before leaving for Dallas Monday morning and got some good news. Cornerback Bryant McFadden, safety Troy Polamalu and wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders were all back on the field for the first time this week.

Left tackle Jonathan Scott (ribs), center Maurkice Pouncey (ankle) and safety Will Allen (knee) all sat out again.

Nobody has been talking about the injury to Scott, but the fact that he's still missing practices is concerning.

Trai Essex would start at left tackle if Scott is unable to play – though word is that he is expected to tough it out.
NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Urlacher to Packers: I hope you lose :goodposting:

By Don Walker of the Journal Sentinel

Jan. 28, 2011

Chicago Bears lineback Brian Urlacher says he still respects the Green Bay Packers, but that doesn't mean he wants them to win the Super Bowl.

Urlacher told a Chicago radio station that he would not root for them.

"Hell no I'm not rooting for the Packers in the Super Bowl," he said.

 
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anyone who has watched jonathan scott and trai essex play this year know how horrible of a sentence this is: The steelers will be in significant trouble if Essex starts in place of Scott.

i'd call it yoi (scott) or double yoi (essex)!

 
I'm ready for the game. I wish they would play the championship games on Saturdays and have the Superbowl the following Sunday. It would give one more day of rest than normal, but would preserve some continuity for the season. I know it would be more difficult on families of players that wish to travel, and on fans who wish to travel, but like I said, I am ready for the game.
I wish they would do the only thing that makes sense and shift the Super Bowl from Sunday to Saturday. I already know I'm going to be comatose at work that Monday.
Thank God my vacation day was approved. :goodposting:
 
anyone who has watched jonathan scott and trai essex play this year know how horrible of a sentence this is: The steelers will be in significant trouble if Essex starts in place of Scott. i'd call it yoi (scott) or double yoi (essex)!
Losing Scott and Pouncey would be huge losses on that Oline with Raji and Jenkins and Matthews lurking.
 
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anyone who has watched jonathan scott and trai essex play this year know how horrible of a sentence this is: The steelers will be in significant trouble if Essex starts in place of Scott. i'd call it yoi (scott) or double yoi (essex)!
Losing Scott and Essex would be huge losses on that Oline with Raji and Jenkins and Matthews lurking.
And Woodson too.
 
you're not grasping my full meaning. i'm not worried about losing Essex. i am worried about him being available and actually playing LT.

 
From Lolley today:

The Steelers held their final practice on Friday before leaving for Dallas Monday morning and got some good news. Cornerback Bryant McFadden, safety Troy Polamalu and wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders were all back on the field for the first time this week.

Left tackle Jonathan Scott (ribs), center Maurkice Pouncey (ankle) and safety Will Allen (knee) all sat out again.

Nobody has been talking about the injury to Scott, but the fact that he's still missing practices is concerning.

Trai Essex would start at left tackle if Scott is unable to play – though word is that he is expected to tough it out.
NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:goodposting: I'd expect/hope for a lot of "Mendenhall to the right" if this happens.

 
Urlacher to Packers: I hope you lose :goodposting: By Don Walker of the Journal SentinelJan. 28, 2011 Chicago Bears lineback Brian Urlacher says he still respects the Green Bay Packers, but that doesn't mean he wants them to win the Super Bowl.Urlacher told a Chicago radio station that he would not root for them."Hell no I'm not rooting for the Packers in the Super Bowl," he said.
:)
 

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