The Tea Party is back in business! (1 Viewer)

[culdeus]

If the GOP splits which side takes the Republican party moniker? Tea or GOP blue bloods?

 

[jonessed]

Now that Ted Cruz is cleared to be a citizen who can run for prez, can we keep tabs on the birthers who end up supporting him?

I want to make sure we document the hypocrisy. If Obama had the exact same situation they'd be all over him like flies on ####.

What are you talking about?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

God help us if Hillary wins...

A 2nd term for Bill is the best thing that could happen.

Confused on this one. Bill already had two terms. I assume this was a joke suggesting that a Hillary presidency would be like another Bill term, and it should have said 3rd term?

2nd stint.

 

[Henry Ford]

Now that Ted Cruz is cleared to be a citizen who can run for prez, can we keep tabs on the birthers who end up supporting him?

I want to make sure we document the hypocrisy. If Obama had the exact same situation they'd be all over him like flies on ####.

What are you talking about?

Ted Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship so there are no questions about his dual citizenship when he runs for president. He has that citizenship because he was born in Canada.

 

[roadkill1292]

The country is moving to the right, watch what happens in November

This unwillingness to acknowledge demographic realities are why you were so spectacularly wrong in November 2012. Even rational conservatives don't believe this.

 

[jon_mx]

I said the lat two elections and is also true of this election, the GOP needs to focus like a laser beam on fiscal conservatism. Cutting spending and keeping taxes as low as possible. Tax cuts at this point is off the table until spending gets reigned in and you can't take a hard core stance against additional taxes either, but be against the types of punitive tax rates that attempt to soak the rich as we have seen in past generations.

 

[tommyboy]

the Tea Party didn't give one single dime to Brat.

 

[MaxThreshold]

the Tea Party didn't give one single dime to Brat.

The Tea Party? Pretty sure they disbanded after they were "repudiated and defeated".

 

[timschochet]

The title of the thread has been changed to reflect recent events.

 

[17seconds]

The title of the thread has been changed to reflect recent events.

I wouldn't have my finger to the wind too much.

Brat beat Cantor for a few reasons, one of which was an open primary were democrats were robo-called to vote out Cantor. Another was resentment that Cantor had his eyes on his own career in Washington and wasn't focused on his district. This thing wasn't completely driven by the Tea Party.

 

[timschochet]

The title of the thread has been changed to reflect recent events.

I wouldn't have my finger to the wind too much.

Brat beat Cantor for a few reasons, one of which was an open primary were democrats were robo-called to vote out Cantor. Another was resentment that Cantor had his eyes on his own career in Washington and wasn't focused on his district. This thing wasn't completely driven by the Tea Party.

My conclusion is more fun.

 

[Joe Summer]

The country is moving to the right, watch what happens in November

I recall that you made similar predictions in 2008 and 2012...

 

[Politician Spock]

The country is moving to the right, watch what happens in November

I recall that you made similar predictions in 2008 and 2012...

When Barack has been on the ballot, a huge chunk of Americans who typically don't bother to vote show up at the polls.

I don't know if the country is headed towards the right, but I'm not convinced the dems have turned that crowd into regular voters. If 2010 is any indication, they didn't.

 

[Todd Andrews]

KooK Power lives on!!

 

[joffer]

the Tea Party didn't give one single dime to Brat.

The Tea Party? Pretty sure they disbanded after they were "repudiated and defeated".

Agree, let's rename it to accurately reflect their goals, any suggestions?

 

[Christo]

The country is moving to the right, watch what happens in November

 

[17seconds]

The country is moving to the right, watch what happens in November

 

[Gr00vus]

The country is moving to the right, watch what happens in November

To be fair, he didn't specify which November.

 

[eurotrashman]

The country is moving to the right, watch what happens in November

 

[jonessed]

The title of the thread has been changed to reflect recent events.

I wouldn't have my finger to the wind too much.

Brat beat Cantor for a few reasons, one of which was an open primary were democrats were robo-called to vote out Cantor. Another was resentment that Cantor had his eyes on his own career in Washington and wasn't focused on his district. This thing wasn't completely driven by the Tea Party.

He actually wasn't supported by the big Tea Party donors either.

 

[jonessed]

Now that Ted Cruz is cleared to be a citizen who can run for prez, can we keep tabs on the birthers who end up supporting him?

I want to make sure we document the hypocrisy. If Obama had the exact same situation they'd be all over him like flies on ####.

What are you talking about?

Ted Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship so there are no questions about his dual citizenship when he runs for president. He has that citizenship because he was born in Canada.

Don't you have to be a natural-born citizen to run for President?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Now that Ted Cruz is cleared to be a citizen who can run for prez, can we keep tabs on the birthers who end up supporting him?

I want to make sure we document the hypocrisy. If Obama had the exact same situation they'd be all over him like flies on ####.

What are you talking about?

Ted Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship so there are no questions about his dual citizenship when he runs for president. He has that citizenship because he was born in Canada.

Don't you have to be a natural-born citizen to run for President?

Yes, you do.

 

[Politician Spock]

Now that Ted Cruz is cleared to be a citizen who can run for prez, can we keep tabs on the birthers who end up supporting him?

I want to make sure we document the hypocrisy. If Obama had the exact same situation they'd be all over him like flies on ####.

What are you talking about?

Ted Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship so there are no questions about his dual citizenship when he runs for president. He has that citizenship because he was born in Canada.

Don't you have to be a natural-born citizen to run for President?

The law is ambiguous, because it's not clear what "natural-born" means. One could argue that a foreign-born baby being entitled to American citizenship if at least one parent is an American is by definition "natural-born".

 

[Henry Ford]

Now that Ted Cruz is cleared to be a citizen who can run for prez, can we keep tabs on the birthers who end up supporting him?

I want to make sure we document the hypocrisy. If Obama had the exact same situation they'd be all over him like flies on ####.

What are you talking about?

Ted Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship so there are no questions about his dual citizenship when he runs for president. He has that citizenship because he was born in Canada.

Don't you have to be a natural-born citizen to run for President?

Yes. But one of his parents was an American citizen, so he was born with American citizenship and was therefore born a citizen of the United States - not "naturalized" but rather "natural born" citizen.

Plus, he's not black, so who cares?

 

[Joe Summer]

Now that Ted Cruz is cleared to be a citizen who can run for prez, can we keep tabs on the birthers who end up supporting him?

I want to make sure we document the hypocrisy. If Obama had the exact same situation they'd be all over him like flies on ####.

What are you talking about?

Ted Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship so there are no questions about his dual citizenship when he runs for president. He has that citizenship because he was born in Canada.

Don't you have to be a natural-born citizen to run for President?

The law is ambiguous, because it's not clear what "natural-born" means.

John McCain and George Romney were not born in the United States but they were both eligible to run for president.

 

[PatsWillWin]

No ####, I didn't know that.

 

[timschochet]

Actually, McCain was born in US owned territory.

 

[quickhands]

Now that Ted Cruz is cleared to be a citizen who can run for prez, can we keep tabs on the birthers who end up supporting him?

I want to make sure we document the hypocrisy. If Obama had the exact same situation they'd be all over him like flies on ####.

Sounds like you are gonna be busy. I wish you good luck.

 

[The Commish]

the Tea Party didn't give one single dime to Brat.

How do you know? It's virtually impossible to track funds if people don't want them tracked.

 

[Riversco]

If a moderate republican won the white house, and the tea party controlled congress, do you think they would fight over issues or get along?

 

[Jayrod]

Kind of off subject, but is the government still claiming that Obamacare will cost us nothing? I kind of remember either Obama or other people talking about it and saying that it would pay for itself in the long run. Is that still the thinking? Or is the ACA actually going to cost taxpayers money.

Thanks. I'll hang up and listen.

No, it's a collassal **** up of a law.

No, it does precisely what its primary intention was....to obtain governmental control of the healthcare industry. Any talk of costs and benefits was merely sales tactics to get it passed.

if the goal was to take control of the healthcare industry they did a really really ####ty job of it.

Baby steps, grasshopper. Be patient and you will see. If there is one thing the federal government has proven over the years it is that they never give up control, they only take more. Once the foot is in the door, they will eventually control the whole thing.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

If a moderate republican won the white house, and the tea party controlled congress, do you think they would fight over issues or get along?

Isn't that what we have now?

 

[MaxThreshold]

If a moderate republican won the white house, and the tea party controlled congress, do you think they would fight over issues or get along?

Isn't that what we have now?

Nope.

 

[avoiding injuries]

If a moderate republican won the white house, and the tea party controlled congress, do you think they would fight over issues or get along?

Isn't that what we have now?

Nope.

If you're viewpoint is coming from the extreme faaaaar left, I could see how someone could think that.

 

[MaxThreshold]

If a moderate republican won the white house, and the tea party controlled congress, do you think they would fight over issues or get along?

Isn't that what we have now?

Nope.

If you're viewpoint is coming from the extreme faaaaar left, I could see how someone could think that.

I'm extremely far left. I make ToddAndrews, TGunz, BFS and BigSteelThrill look like members of the Tea Party.

 

[drummer]

If a moderate republican won the white house, and the tea party controlled congress, do you think they would fight over issues or get along?

Isn't that what we have now?

Nope.

If you're viewpoint is coming from the extreme faaaaar left, I could see how someone could think that.

I'm extremely far left. I make ToddAndrews, TGunz, BFS and BigSteelThrill look like members of the Tea Party.

You make johnjohn look like a member of MENSA.

 

[17seconds]

If a moderate republican won the white house, and the tea party controlled congress, do you think they would fight over issues or get along?

Isn't that what we have now?

Nope.

If you're viewpoint is coming from the extreme faaaaar left, I could see how someone could think that.

I'm extremely far left. I make ToddAndrews, TGunz, BFS and BigSteelThrill look like members of the Tea Party.

If the political spectrum were circular, yes.

 

[timschochet]

If a moderate republican won the white house, and the tea party controlled congress, do you think they would fight over issues or get along?

Of course. Moderate Republicans believe in compromise. They support immigration reform, and the Chamber of Commerce. They believe that government can assist banks, such as the Export-Import bank that helps Boeing sell it's planes overseas- what Tea Partiers scornfully call "crony capitalism."

There are other differences as well (regarding the NSA and foreign policy).

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

If a moderate republican won the white house, and the tea party controlled congress, do you think they would fight over issues or get along?

Isn't that what we have now?

Nope.

If you're viewpoint is coming from the extreme faaaaar left, I could see how someone could think that.

I'm extremely far left. I make ToddAndrews, TGunz, BFS and BigSteelThrill look like members of the Tea Party.

It is so cute at how hard you try.

 

[Politician Spock]

If a moderate republican won the white house, and the tea party controlled congress, do you think they would fight over issues or get along?

Of course. Moderate Republicans believe in compromise. They support immigration reform, and the Chamber of Commerce. They believe that government can assist banks, such as the Export-Import bank that helps Boeing sell it's planes overseas- what Tea Partiers scornfully call "crony capitalism."

There are other differences as well (regarding the NSA and foreign policy).

Not that I give a damn about the tea party, but your painting of other people's beliefs using only black and white for color is either a sign of a lack of congnitive thought or a lack of ability to communicate your thoughts effectively. You really come across as a ### when you post things like this. Most people see an entire spectrum of political beliefs, even within the parties. But then you come along and throw black and white paint on it 10,000 times a year. I appreciate that you are passionate about your beliefs. So am I. But you've got to realize you exist within the spectrum. So any attempt by you to paint it is going to be influenced by where you reside on it. So stop trying to paint it for others. I'm sure you'll ignore my request, but I had to say it none the less.

 

[timschochet]

If a moderate republican won the white house, and the tea party controlled congress, do you think they would fight over issues or get along?

Of course. Moderate Republicans believe in compromise. They support immigration reform, and the Chamber of Commerce. They believe that government can assist banks, such as the Export-Import bank that helps Boeing sell it's planes overseas- what Tea Partiers scornfully call "crony capitalism."There are other differences as well (regarding the NSA and foreign policy).

Not that I give a damn about the tea party, but your painting of other people's beliefs using only black and white for color is either a sign of a lack of congnitive thought or a lack of ability to communicate your thoughts effectively. You really come across as a ### when you post things like this. Most people see an entire spectrum of political beliefs, even within the parties. But then you come along and throw black and white paint on it 10,000 times a year. I appreciate that you are passionate about your beliefs. So am I. But you've got to realize you exist within the spectrum. So any attempt by you to paint it is going to be influenced by where you reside on it. So stop trying to paint it for others. I'm sure you'll ignore my request, but I had to say it none the less.

What I described about the views of moderate Republicans, and the views of Tea Partiers, I believe to be generally true. Of course it's not true of everyone and I wasn't discussing the viewpoints of anyone in this forum or "regular people" anywhere, but of leading politicians who go by those titles, since the question was about the Presidrnt and Congress. Not sure why you're taking offense. If you think I am inaccurate in my depiction, then please be specific.

 

[B-Deep]

I said the lat two elections and is also true of this election, the GOP needs to focus like a laser beam on fiscal conservatism. Cutting spending and keeping taxes as low as possible. Tax cuts at this point is off the table until spending gets reigned in and you can't take a hard core stance against additional taxes either, but be against the types of punitive tax rates that attempt to soak the rich as we have seen in past generations.

there is 0 chance this happens

social issues are way too high, and com[promising on any additional taxes is a sign of weakness

 

[Politician Spock]

If a moderate republican won the white house, and the tea party controlled congress, do you think they would fight over issues or get along?

Of course. Moderate Republicans believe in compromise. They support immigration reform, and the Chamber of Commerce. They believe that government can assist banks, such as the Export-Import bank that helps Boeing sell it's planes overseas- what Tea Partiers scornfully call "crony capitalism."There are other differences as well (regarding the NSA and foreign policy).

Not that I give a damn about the tea party, but your painting of other people's beliefs using only black and white for color is either a sign of a lack of congnitive thought or a lack of ability to communicate your thoughts effectively. You really come across as a ### when you post things like this. Most people see an entire spectrum of political beliefs, even within the parties. But then you come along and throw black and white paint on it 10,000 times a year. I appreciate that you are passionate about your beliefs. So am I. But you've got to realize you exist within the spectrum. So any attempt by you to paint it is going to be influenced by where you reside on it. So stop trying to paint it for others. I'm sure you'll ignore my request, but I had to say it none the less.

What I described about the views of moderate Republicans, and the views of Tea Partiers, I believe to be generally true. Of course it's not true of everyone and I wasn't discussing the viewpoints of anyone in this forum or "regular people" anywhere, but of leading politicians who go by those titles, since the question was about the Presidrnt and Congress. Not sure why you're taking offense. If you think I am inaccurate in my depiction, then please be specific.

Well, to start, your answer of "of course" didn't answer the question (unless you were attempting humor). The question was "would fight over issues or get along". By answering "of course" do you mean they would fight or get along?

 

[timschochet]

Sorry you're right. I meant of course they would fight. And again I'm only referring to the politicians, not to ordinary people who might think of themselves in those terms.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Now that Ted Cruz is cleared to be a citizen who can run for prez, can we keep tabs on the birthers who end up supporting him?

I want to make sure we document the hypocrisy. If Obama had the exact same situation they'd be all over him like flies on ####.

What are you talking about?

Ted Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship so there are no questions about his dual citizenship when he runs for president. He has that citizenship because he was born in Canada.

Don't you have to be a natural-born citizen to run for President?

The law is ambiguous, because it's not clear what "natural-born" means.

John McCain and George Romney were not born in the United States but they were both eligible to run for president.

The Romneys are Mexicans who turned their back on America and fled this great country so they could have patriarchal families with multiple indentured wives.

 

[jon_mx]

If a moderate republican won the white house, and the tea party controlled congress, do you think they would fight over issues or get along?

Of course. Moderate Republicans believe in compromise. They support immigration reform, and the Chamber of Commerce. They believe that government can assist banks, such as the Export-Import bank that helps Boeing sell it's planes overseas- what Tea Partiers scornfully call "crony capitalism."There are other differences as well (regarding the NSA and foreign policy).

Not that I give a damn about the tea party, but your painting of other people's beliefs using only black and white for color is either a sign of a lack of congnitive thought or a lack of ability to communicate your thoughts effectively. You really come across as a ### when you post things like this. Most people see an entire spectrum of political beliefs, even within the parties. But then you come along and throw black and white paint on it 10,000 times a year. I appreciate that you are passionate about your beliefs. So am I. But you've got to realize you exist within the spectrum. So any attempt by you to paint it is going to be influenced by where you reside on it. So stop trying to paint it for others. I'm sure you'll ignore my request, but I had to say it none the less.

Outstanding post. But hell will freeze over 10 times over long before it occurs to Tim you might have a point.

 

[Sarnoff]

Yeah Tim, please stop trying to paint the President as black.

 

[jon_mx]

Yeah Tim, please stop trying to paint the President as black.

His mom was white, so even that is not really all black and white.

 

[tommyboy]

Yeah Tim, please stop trying to paint the President as black.

I thought he was Cablanasian?

 

[Koya]

Yeah Tim, please stop trying to paint the President as black.

I thought he was Cablanasian?

Actually, the only mixed guy who has lost so much luster over the past eight years is the Cablanasian.